Rescuing the Rescue thread

Mar 21, 2019 3:30 pm
This seems like a good time to bring up some obstacles we're encountering in the storyline and to discuss ways to overcome them.

From my perspective, the stakes have shifted from "how to overcome the pirate threat" to "how to deal with the parasite threat" to "how to do all of it without losing our careers." This last angle makes sense from an objective viewpoint - certainly any crew that did the things we've all done would be court-martialed on sight. But the problem with that is that the PCs haven't been given the resources in-game that would have allowed them to make better choices while still being actively engaged in the game.

Btw, this isn't a complaint thread - I love a lot of things spinach has done and he's exhibited great judgment in tons of ways. But it feels now very much like the PCs are being held accountable for actions and decisions that were wholly or in part the result of being unable to access resources that if they were a "real" fictional crew, they'd have had automatically.

For example, I realize that we sent our head of security PC out on the away mission and he disappeared from the game entirely, but it really has felt like the entire NPC security team left is full of lazy incompetents who wait to be told to do things they should just be doing and reporting on.

We have an experienced starship captain commanding one of the most powerful Spacefleet ships as a partner, but they somehow have no ability or inclination to help or participate in an interrogation of a new life form, or to send help when we have medical and command crises. Now, I'm happy to roll with that if that's how we're playing the game, but it feels sort of unfair now for Cass and the others to be excoriated and facing disciplinary action for making the best of a situation that makes no logical sense, lol.

I'm hoping we can talk through this and figure out a way forward that doesn't feel hand-wavey or like the characters were set up to fail and are on their way to career destruction. Surely there's a middle ground we can find?
Last edited March 21, 2019 3:33 pm
Mar 21, 2019 3:38 pm
Death battle in the Holodeck.

In all honesty, knowing what COA protocols would be for Spacefleet (covering our butts), that would help. It's knowledge our characters would have, but that I know I don't.

Spinach, you've been super helpful with my messaged attempts to prevent Moira's reassignment. Do you mind if I share some of those thoughts here?
Mar 21, 2019 3:57 pm
Of course, you can share whatever you want. They're your plans, after all.

It's a good idea to talk about how to resolve this situation. Things have kind of spiralled a bit out of control and while I love the drama that's happening, I can see how it feels hopeless to the players.

I made some mistakes due to poor planning. The biggest, in my opinion, was to have the Antarctica there to assist you because like you're saying, they should pretty much handle the situation while you are only assisting. Because of that, I've kept them extremely passive, which doesn't make much sense in universe but I feel is more fun for you than if I was playing them effectively. They did help with resources by sending soldiers and scientists over for the gas mission and they could offer further resources if you asked them.
I've been trying to think of a way to get rid of the Antarctica for a long time but I can't think of any that makes sense so they have just been kind of around.

With the security team as well, I could have made them resolve the situation in the hangar bay but that would not have been fun for the players. I should have added a sentence about how they at least took some shots and missed but I simply forgot to write that in, like I mentioned in another post.
The security team has also completely on their own, with only one minor injury for flavor, taken out the entire pirate crew on the one ship, so I wouldn't say they are completely useless.

And I was never planning on ruining any character's career or having anyone reassigned in this game. There's some stress on the ship, some decisions made that spacefleet wouldn't necessarily approve of, but I don't think there's anything that would be career ending at the end of the day when you come out as heroes. Maybe some reprimand here and some commendation there.

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And I hope I don't sound like I'm annoyed or defensive about this. I'm not. I think it's a good idea to lay out problems and discuss how we should rescue the rescue thread
Mar 21, 2019 4:04 pm
You do not sound annoyed or defensive at all, and I'm glad that you haven't taken what I said as a criticism of you, because it emphatically was not meant as one. And honestly, I'm not unhappy with how things have worked out re: security and the Antarctica. I just felt a little hot under the collar when Tulak out of the blue decided that it was suddenly time to get all judgmental and captain-y and demand a report and so forth. I was all like, "Bitch, where da fuck you been up to now?" :D
Mar 21, 2019 4:06 pm
Anyway, here's my proposal for the rescue of the rescue thread: the characters work through their resentments and baggage quickly, agree on behavioral norms going forward, and then devise a plan for how to deal with the parasite threat.
Mar 21, 2019 4:07 pm
That makes sense xD

I wasn't trying to put even more pressure on you there. I just felt like that was not something they could just ignore but I also didn't want to give any harsh consequences, so I just had her ask you to write a report, which probably would have never come up again later.
Mar 21, 2019 4:09 pm
Moonbeam says:
Anyway, here's my proposal for the rescue of the rescue thread: the characters work through their resentments and baggage quickly, agree on behavioral norms going forward, and then devise a plan for how to deal with the parasite threat.
And Tulak realizes it's her species' Shabbat so she can't be helping you and flies off
Mar 21, 2019 4:14 pm
bowlofspinach says:
Moonbeam says:
Anyway, here's my proposal for the rescue of the rescue thread: the characters work through their resentments and baggage quickly, agree on behavioral norms going forward, and then devise a plan for how to deal with the parasite threat.
And Tulak realizes it's her species' Shabbat so she can't be helping you and flies off
You can do better than that. Let it be her game night or something.
Mar 21, 2019 4:14 pm
I love it!

Yeah, I'm actually really glad we at least haven't had to worry about shenanigans on other ships. And I like that Cass got us all into one room again. Easier to hash things out.
Mar 21, 2019 4:16 pm
Moonbeam says:
bowlofspinach says:
Moonbeam says:
Anyway, here's my proposal for the rescue of the rescue thread: the characters work through their resentments and baggage quickly, agree on behavioral norms going forward, and then devise a plan for how to deal with the parasite threat.
And Tulak realizes it's her species' Shabbat so she can't be helping you and flies off
You can do better than that. Let it be her game night or something.
She plays poker with the other members of her bridge crew and gambles away the Antarctica so now they don't know how to deal with that
Mar 21, 2019 4:16 pm
lavtodd says:
I love it!

Yeah, I'm actually really glad we at least haven't had to worry about shenanigans on other ships. And I like that Cass got us all into one room again. Easier to hash things out.
It was sort of like with Marbo's involuntary spacewalk. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out how to get Cass to them when she had no business leaving Kendall in the ready room and the bridge unattended and then I thought, "Oh yeah... I have a transporter."
Mar 21, 2019 4:33 pm
bowlofspinach says:
She plays poker with the other members of her bridge crew and gambles away the Antarctica so now they don't know how to deal with that
[ +- ] Uncovered video still of the incident
Mar 21, 2019 4:37 pm
Hahaha! That's a great idea!

However, on what passes for a more serious note in this game, what if we collaborated with Tulak to devise a plan, and then something took the Antarctica out of the equation unexpectedly? Or what if the parasites, having already had dealings with Tulak, managed to capture her? I hate to discard Tulak entirely and waste her intriguing background.
Mar 21, 2019 4:39 pm
Or we send her to sweep for other pirates while we reunite our crew, then we catch up wiht her ship to handle the pirates once and for all. The Antarctica has a good chance at handling a short bout alone, but they'd need backup if we found the hive, and then we'd be full-staffed, too.
Mar 21, 2019 4:42 pm
I guess they could go ahead to investigate what you suspect is the pirates' main base of operations while you go and rescue Zephyr and pals.

Or there could be another pirate attack somewhere in the sector that they get called to while you have to rescue the awaiting awayteam
Mar 21, 2019 4:46 pm
I would like to join them for an eventual space battle if possible. I just know we need our bros back.
Mar 21, 2019 4:46 pm
Yeah, any of those scenarios could work. I mean, we're going to need help killing these guys, so we shouldn't send the Antarctica away for good. We're a scout ship, for heaven's sake, and not even a good one.
Mar 21, 2019 4:49 pm
But we have heart!

And we almost got to see yours and Marbo's today! :D
Mar 21, 2019 5:01 pm
You probably got to see Cass' dental work if you were looking closely enough after the acid hit.
Mar 21, 2019 5:06 pm
That's actually horrifying.
Mar 21, 2019 5:08 pm
Just keepin' it real, girlfriend.
Mar 21, 2019 5:13 pm
[ +- ] Actual image of Cass after the parasite attack
Mar 21, 2019 5:18 pm
Yep, that's pretty much what I was picturing.
Mar 21, 2019 5:28 pm
Do any of you watch 9-1-1? This week they had a case where there was a leak of the anesthetic gas during a face lift. When paramedics got there the patient had woke up and her face kept flopping off. Oh...this is a fiction show if you didn't know.

I am new to this site, this game system, and RPG by post...so I am not jumping in to the OOC thread very much, but I am enjoying it and the game very much.
Mar 21, 2019 5:32 pm
Machiabelly says:
Do any of you watch 9-1-1? This week they had a case where there was a leak of the anesthetic gas during a face lift. When paramedics got there the patient had woke up and her face kept flopping off. Oh...this is a fiction show if you didn't know.
Guh-ROSS! :D
Machiabelly says:
I am new to this site, this game system, and RPG by post...so I am not jumping in to the OOC thread very much, but I am enjoying it and the game very much.
We're glad you joined us, Machiabelly! Glad you're having a good time. Someday our characters might even meet each other. Assuming we live that long.
Mar 21, 2019 5:33 pm
Spinach, I'm really not sure how to have Cass respond to Kendall's contribution to the current scene. I was kind of waiting for Darcy to react to what Cass said in her little meltdown. I think that's a note that needs to be hit so that the character conflicts can be resolved before we move on to trying to save the universe.
Last edited March 21, 2019 6:22 pm
Mar 21, 2019 5:34 pm
Hey, I'm trying to get you guys to meet up. It's not my fault you keep getting your faces eaten.


Okay, it kind of is but that's not the point!
Mar 21, 2019 5:35 pm
Moonbeam says:
Spinach, I'm really not sure how to have Cass respond to Kendall's contribute to the current scene. I was kind of waiting for Darcy to react to what Cass said in her little meltdown. I think that's a note that needs to be hit so that the character conflicts can be resolved before we move on to trying to save the universe.
I wanted to wait for everyone to have a go at Moira's Merry Meltdown game but I can already reply to your psot if you want
Mar 21, 2019 5:36 pm
Who are we waiting for? Oh, Moira herself, I guess!
Mar 21, 2019 5:37 pm
I kind of thought that her initial post about the grieve and scream was her contribution, but it really didn't touch on anything current. Lav, ready to melt down for fun and profit?
Mar 21, 2019 5:44 pm
Marbo has so much more to melt down about, but hes been restraining himself

It would probably devolve into him overloading his translator, speaking a million words a second in nemurlian while gesticulating wildly in four different directions at once.

Honestly, I kinda love how this game is sometimes star trek narrative storytelling, sometimes mass effect scales of drama, sometimes its Battlestar galactica intensity, and then sometimes it shits its pants entirely and becomes an episode of The Orville.
Mar 21, 2019 5:45 pm
Also, what if the antarctica isnt helping more because theyve been infected :O
Mar 21, 2019 5:47 pm
I think you should let Marbo let go a little more. If only because I want to see you write the translator overloading.
Mar 21, 2019 5:53 pm
Moonbeam says:
I think you should let Marbo let go a little more. If only because I want to see you write the translator overloading.
Brace for the longest Dialogue only post youve ever seen in your life on a play by post RPG.


Id crack my knuckles but the sound freaks me out.
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Mar 21, 2019 6:01 pm
RobbOgden93 says:
Also, what if the antarctica isnt helping more because theyve been infected :O
Don't give me even more ideas to screw over the players, Robb.
I just posted as Darcy. If Robb writes a long psot now, maybe I should remove it to adapt it to what he's doing
Mar 21, 2019 6:02 pm
no i figured you were posting, im starting my post now and putting a flag up for everyone to know im posting
Mar 21, 2019 6:09 pm
I'll wait for your post and then adapt mine to fit after that
Mar 21, 2019 6:17 pm
okay. im just in the finaly typo checks and editing stage because i started to type to fast lmfao.
Mar 21, 2019 6:21 pm
Moira'll go break down in a minute? She has more she's mad about.... For fun and profit XD
Mar 21, 2019 6:21 pm
Do you want yours to come before Darcy's?
Mar 21, 2019 6:22 pm
Yes, I'll wait for her as well
Mar 21, 2019 6:24 pm
I can do that. I don't mind waiting until after Darcy, though. Moira would kinda want to make sure everyone was okay.
Mar 21, 2019 6:27 pm
I closed the window by accident .-. Retyping it as fast as i can.
Mar 21, 2019 6:27 pm
Oh my god. LMAO
Mar 21, 2019 6:30 pm
RobbOgden93 says:
I closed the window by accident .-. Retyping it as fast as i can.
Reminds me of my teenage self writing fanfiction in the website submission window only to lose whole chapters again and again when the internet cut out while I was trying to post
Mar 21, 2019 6:33 pm
bowlofspinach says:
RobbOgden93 says:
I closed the window by accident .-. Retyping it as fast as i can.
Reminds me of my teenage self writing fanfiction in the website submission window only to lose whole chapters again and again when the internet cut out while I was trying to post
Amateur.
Mar 21, 2019 6:41 pm
These memories are stressful...

Spinach, Darcy can go first.
Mar 21, 2019 6:53 pm
bowlofspinach says:
RobbOgden93 says:
I closed the window by accident .-. Retyping it as fast as i can.
Reminds me of my teenage self writing fanfiction in the website submission window only to lose whole chapters again and again when the internet cut out while I was trying to post
Every good teen fanfiction writer knows you write it in word or notepad and save it to you pc, then when you submit it you copy and paste the whole thing into the site so you dont lose the 40 pages youve written about what it would be like if The 9th doctor and Hermione Granger when she got taken as his companion.


I mean... uh.... Whats a fanfiction......
Mar 21, 2019 6:54 pm
RobbOgden93 says:
bowlofspinach says:
RobbOgden93 says:
I closed the window by accident .-. Retyping it as fast as i can.
Reminds me of my teenage self writing fanfiction in the website submission window only to lose whole chapters again and again when the internet cut out while I was trying to post
Every good teen fanfiction writer knows you write it in word or notepad and save it to you pc, then when you submit it you copy and paste the whole thing into the site so you dont lose the 40 pages youve written about what it would be like if The 9th doctor and Hermione Granger when she got taken as his companion.


I mean... uh.... Whats a fanfiction......
Teen fanfiction writers. Yeah, for sure, just teens do that. Um.
Mar 21, 2019 6:55 pm
I JUST REALIZED WHY WE ALL GET ALONG SO WELL! Every single one of us was that teenager on dial-up or early broadband internet writing fanfictions in the wee hours of the morning when we were supposed to be studying. Imagining our lives at hogwarts, or what would happen if our dream couples met, Losing sleep to manufacture dreams of alternate universes.
Mar 21, 2019 6:55 pm
RobbOgden93 says:
I JUST REALIZED WHY WE ALL GET ALONG SO WELL! Every single one of us was that teenager on dial-up or early broadband internet writing fanfictions in the wee hours of the morning when we were supposed to be studying. Imagining our lives at hogwarts, or what would happen if our dream couples met, Losing sleep to manufacture dreams of alternate universes.
Yep, we were all teenagers then. Absolutely.
Mar 21, 2019 6:58 pm
I mean, i migrated from angsty romance fanfiction to Fallout and other IP's that were super open ended, and then eventually to RPG's as a way to live out my fantastical imaginings.
Mar 21, 2019 7:01 pm
But do what you love right? I dont mean to sound like im knocking people who write romance fanfiction, i just seemed to grow away from it as i became an adult and didnt have the time to sit down and knock out another chapter of Captain janeway realizing she was romantically interested in Tchakotay.


Not that i ever even started that or wrote like 12 chapters of it that never saw the light of day.
Mar 21, 2019 7:01 pm
I've never written fanfic, but I write story posts for the games I run in Notepad and copy-paste into the forum window. :)
Mar 21, 2019 7:11 pm
RobbOgden93 says:
But do what you love right? I dont mean to sound like im knocking people who write romance fanfiction, i just seemed to grow away from it as i became an adult and didnt have the time to sit down and knock out another chapter of Captain janeway realizing she was romantically interested in Tchakotay.


Not that i ever even started that or wrote like 12 chapters of it that never saw the light of day.
Janeway/Chakotay was an obvious ship that should totally have been canon. Lots of chemistry there. Although I maintain that Kate Mulgrew could make chemistry with a potted plant and it would be totally mesmerizing.

I've never been interested in romance fiction at all, so my fanfiction was never focused on that. The vast majority of it was humorous critiques of logical lapses and character inconsistencies in the particular fandoms. But I wasn't a teenager when I was writing it, so that probably influenced my choice of subject matter.
Mar 21, 2019 7:13 pm
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I've never been interested in romance fiction at all, so my fanfiction was never focused on that. The vast majority of it was humorous critiques of logical lapses and character inconsistencies in the particular fandoms.
How am I not surprised by that?
Mar 21, 2019 7:15 pm
I think honestly, most fanfiction writers who start young seem to start with ships, then they develop like, an OC-EC Romance, then they start to burn off all those excess hormones and start to branch into other areas of fanfics.
Mar 21, 2019 7:16 pm
bowlofspinach says:
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I've never been interested in romance fiction at all, so my fanfiction was never focused on that. The vast majority of it was humorous critiques of logical lapses and character inconsistencies in the particular fandoms.
How am I not surprised by that?
If you were surprised by it, it would mean you weren't paying attention! :D

Some of them are pretty hilarious.
Mar 21, 2019 7:17 pm
Robb, I love Marbo's meltdown. :)
Mar 21, 2019 7:17 pm
Robb, are you still writing your post or did we distract you from it?
Mar 21, 2019 7:18 pm
For some reason I didn't get a notification for it. Forget the question
Mar 21, 2019 7:19 pm
Sorry, i shouldve let yall know, post has been up for a hot minute now.
Mar 21, 2019 7:20 pm
bowlofspinach says:
For some reason I didn't get a notification for it. Forget the question
I didn't either. I had to go looking for it. Maybe we actually HAVE broken the thread this time.
Mar 21, 2019 7:22 pm
Moonbeam says:
Robb, I love Marbo's meltdown. :)
He is definitely doing the sad puppy dog right now. Giving cassano and the crew that sort of " I know i chewed up your shoes but i did it because i love you and everytime you put the shoes on you leave me forever and it makes me sad" look.
Mar 21, 2019 7:40 pm
The rescuing the rescue thread is going to catch up with the On Your Own thread for post count soon!
Mar 21, 2019 7:42 pm
kona says:
The rescuing the rescue thread is going to catch up with the On Your Own thread for post count soon!
LOL. We can't help it. We love each other.
Mar 21, 2019 7:50 pm
Do yall ever stumble across a band or album from your youth that is like, You havent heard it since you were part of that scene, but you still know every word?


I almost forgot all about this album.
Mar 21, 2019 10:13 pm
Okay, the long-delayed Rescue Mission post is up (sorry for how long that took). You won't get a notification because the post already existed due to the placeholder.
Mar 21, 2019 10:23 pm
Wait wait wait. Y'all get notifications? I just frantically refresh the page!
Mar 21, 2019 10:24 pm
It's need-to-know.
Mar 21, 2019 10:26 pm
I tried to tie everything together and position us to make a plan to rescue the people from the other thread!
Mar 21, 2019 10:28 pm
It looks nice!
Mar 21, 2019 10:33 pm
Thanks, I added curtains for a homey touch.
Mar 21, 2019 10:34 pm
Moonbeam says:
Thanks, I added curtains for a homey touch.
I like the carpet... Really ties the room together
Mar 21, 2019 10:36 pm
It's too bad Marbo broke the lamp.
Mar 21, 2019 10:45 pm
Or, as he would say, the adkfjasdklfnaerio;gh agk
Mar 22, 2019 12:48 am
You guys are so mean to poor marbo, but actually now that ive thought about it, that would be a pretty good approximation of nemurlian. they are fishy fish boys
Mar 22, 2019 12:50 am
Please tell me that my description of him making a sound like a dolphin playing a kazoo is accurate.
Mar 22, 2019 12:54 am
Oh very much so, the dolphin noises from his native tongue filtering through a mechanized vocoder to be able to speak since his throat is all garbled by slug damage, is 100 percent hilarious and an effective imaginary tool.

At certain points too im sure when he gets over excited his voice cracks, but instead of the usual prepubescent cracks you would get it sounds like an out of tune saxophone XD
Mar 22, 2019 2:00 am
RobbOgden93 says:
You guys are so mean to poor marbo, but actually now that ive thought about it, that would be a pretty good approximation of nemurlian. they are fishy fish boys
We had actual nervous breakdowns because we thought he was gonna be killed off. Get outta here with that "you're so mean to poor marbo" malarkey.
Mar 22, 2019 7:28 am
Im just jokin around. The thought of nemurlian sounding like dolphin clicks is funny af.
Mar 22, 2019 8:32 am
I know, I was kidding, too. ;)

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