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Jan 2, 2021 3:28 am
That sucks. Hopefully things get better for you soon.
Jan 3, 2021 4:18 am
Ditto. Hope things are better soon.

Re: DeJoker - Definitely, I can try to do that. Also, maybe we could all give a brief outline of what we're planning for our scenes in the OOC thread before starting it. No obligation to follow through exactly because ideas mature and change as we write them up or even as the scene plays out, but it'll just be enough detail so other players know the premise and can suggest to be a part of the scene if they think it makes sense. Solo scenes are definitely acceptable too sometimes and the active player gets to make the call about whether they want involvement from other players and which ones, but I suspect, in general, the drama scenes are best when characters are interacting and the players are feeding off each others' ideas. I think a brief premise might facilitate that especially in PbP format. If we had been sitting around the table for DeJoker's scene, for example, as it was being described, I might have interrupted by saying "Oh, Lacy was headed that way earlier, maybe she arrives in the scene right after Takezo steals the phoenix, what do you think?" but in PbP format it's easy to miss those opportunities.

As an example, the last scene might have been prefaced:
"Takezo is heading to the Tesla Research Facility to steal the Phoenix. I'm going to be building towards a Performance skill check to see if he succeeds."

Also, I think you're doing a good job portraying Takezo's attention to detail so far, but I imagine that's a tricky edge to walk, as you said. Sometimes when I'm worried about rping something like that, I just say what I want to convey instead of trying to convey it directly, especially if I think the actual description would be boring or tedious. You did a good job of that here: "... Takezo spent a day immersing himself in them going over them numerous times ..." as opposed to listing each detail that he focused on over the course of the entire day repeatedly. But other times it's worth providing some of the details to whet our imaginations, like when you gave us a sampling of the items needed for Takezo's plan to foreshadow how things might go down (bamboo seeds, featherless peacock, etc). So far I'm enjoying.
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Jan 3, 2021 4:42 am
I think that Chalrytharendir's suggestion for a scene outline is a good idea, especially given the limitations of the PBP format.
Jan 4, 2021 10:04 pm
Managed to have a good sleep Saturday night, after accidentally doing some serious damage to myself.
Jan 4, 2021 10:50 pm
Damage as in maybe dumping to many toxins into your body kind of damage? ;)
Jan 5, 2021 12:38 am
Damage as almost tearing a toe off in the shower.

Well, maybe not the whole toe, but I certainly got the nail off.
Jan 5, 2021 12:58 am
Dang what do you do in your shower -- I have never done anything but take a shower in mine ;-) are you dancing and singing ??
Jan 5, 2021 1:00 am
Trying to get out apparently. Didn't get my foot clear of the lower sliding door and managed to catch the nail in just the right way...

Surgery was/is not currently needed, but its uncomfortable to say the least.

And work might end up with a surprise inspection from our new supervisor in the next few days, so I have to go in.
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Jan 5, 2021 1:05 am
I'm thinking about getting Sumomo to try for the phoenix through a use of Disguise. It's going to be a low-effort attempt, more to determine how much of her lintel matches up.
Jan 5, 2021 1:23 am
Okay so she is going to try and steal the fake phoenix or the real phoenix ??

If you try to steal the fake phoenix maybe you discover a clue about my character's whereabouts -- I believe acquiring Location is one of the goals we might have.
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Jan 5, 2021 2:07 am
@ToDream: Ouch! That sounds like it hurts! Hope it doesn't take too long to heal.

I think you can only steal the Phoenix from Takezo by winning a combat scene and to start a combat scene you need his Location, so finding a clue about his whereabouts makes sense.
Jan 5, 2021 2:54 am
Yeah and stealing the fake phoenix is just going to muddy the waters that much more -- ;) plus it helps you definitely learn it was a fake phoenix we did do our best to make it appear like it could be THE phoenix.

Or maybe it makes you feel your intel was wrong and the owners planted that fake phoenix to keep the real phoenix from being stolen and/or you bump into the NPC person or maybe Lacy arrives at about the same time as you do and you try to learn something about her.

The options are quite broad with so many goals to obtain -- I believe we are supposed to continue Cycles until the goal that was set by the GM which was --- I think was 3 Cycles ??
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Jan 5, 2021 6:38 pm
Ow, that sounds nasty. Hope that heals up nicely.

Anyways, if you're going to steal the fake phoenix, I can see a lot of ways that could be turned into benefits. If you're trying to steal the real phoenix, you'll need to beat Taizo in combat, which requires that you have his Location first.

I have it at 3 Cycles.
Jan 5, 2021 7:35 pm
If you're stealing the fake Phoenix, then it might make sense for me to be a part of the scene since Lacy just took the fake Phoenix. Presumably you tracked Lacy down instead of Takezo (for a drama scene, not a combat) thinking she had stolen the Phoenix. Otherwise, when you go to steal the Phoenix you'll find an empty box and the alarm going off shortly, but you might find a clue there that would lead you to Takezo.
Jan 5, 2021 10:48 pm
Sounds like an idea to me. While Sumomo prefers to be unsubtle, she's learned the benefit of at least 'casing the joint' first.
Jan 6, 2021 4:32 am
Wait I thought that had not happened Chalrytharendir that you retracted that from your post? Why not go with arriving when Sumomo arrives, as the characters would most likely arrived at about the same time, then assuming ToDream is okay with including you within her Drama scene? Perhaps she could then get an Emobond with your character -- assuming that is what she would like to do for her Drama Scene. Otherwise if not why not let ToDream have her Drama Scene with the fake phoenix still in place?

Ah never mind I see you implemented your "suggestion" to respond to information that your character would not have not have known .... alright noted and adjustments made.
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Jan 6, 2021 6:29 am
Sorry DeJoker, I misunderstood. I asked (HERE) whether you liked the suggestion or not, so that I would know what to do about my suggested addition (HERE):
Chalrytharendir says:
If you like it, then this seems like a good spot for it ... Otherwise, I'm not going to force it into a scene later if you don't like this idea for some reason.
I was expecting you to either say something like "yes I like it, let's keep it" or "interesting, but I don't like this detail, what do you think about editing it to ... " or "no, I don't like it because ... Please delete it."
You replied to leave it as it stands (HERE):
DeJoker says:
... let us just leave it as it stands at this point no sense going back and rehashing it.
So I left my post as it stood. I almost replied because I was confused why you didn't want to "rehash" it with an explanation. I'm just trying to learn why you like or dislike my suggestion so that I can hopefully make suggestions that you do like in the future, but based on your post, you really seemed like you didn't want to discuss it for some reason, so I dropped it and did what I thought you meant and left my post as it was.

I'm happy to delete it if you really don't like it, but please give me some feedback. I don't understand what you dislike about my suggestion? If you don't let me know, how can I make better suggestions for your scenes in the future.
Jan 6, 2021 7:25 am
Okay sorry for the confusion if I was not clear but as it stands someone else has already written it in stone -- so when I said let us not rehash it and leave it as it stands you had deleted it -- and leaving as it stood would have meant leaving it deleted -- I think if you read my other posts when talking ToDream I think it would have been fairly evident that I was discounting that part of what you had done - otherwise my posts would made next to no sense -- but again it is what it is.

I will role play my character regardless and just adjust how I go about posting to avoid such issues down the road.
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Jan 6, 2021 5:51 pm
DeJoker says:
... so when I said let us not rehash it and leave it as it stands you had deleted it ...
I have not changed or deleted my suggestion post (HERE) since I first edited it after DeJoker and saevikas's initial feedback (HERE and HERE). It is time stamped Dec. 29, 2020 9:19 pm (PST) and last edited about an hour later at Dec. 29, 2020 10:35 pm (PST). After reading the initial feedback, I explained that I wasn't trying to overstep, I was just trying to interact with your post and maybe create a little drama, which I thought is the purpose of drama scenes. I conceded that it was too far of a jump to include Lacy arriving at the fake Phoenix in my drama scene where it was probably seen as an established fact and instead changed it to be a suggestion to the end of DeJoker's scene. After editing, I asked what you thought (HERE)
Chalrytharendir says:
I edited my posts. Let me know if you like the addition, else I'll remove it.
You cross posted with me, so I suspect this is where all the confusion began, but since it seemed like you noticed that you had cross posted (HERE), I assumed you went back and read my previous posts and the edits that I had made. You then seemed to misunderstand that I had changed my idea to be a suggestion (HERE), so I reinforced that I had made it a suggestion and then asked again whether or not you like it (HERE) at which point you said to leave it as it stands (HERE). At that point my suggestion post had been sitting on the thread the whole time since I had edited it, so I don't think my interpretation of "leave it as it stands" is that strange.
DeJoker says:
... I think if you read my other posts when talking ToDream I think it would have been fairly evident that I was discounting that part of what you had done - otherwise my posts would made next to no sense ...
I hope you can empathize that considering I had believed that we were keeping my suggestion in the story then I could have interpreted your posts to still make sense. I thought you meant that Sumono would have found the cage empty or heard that the phoenix was stole and then started tracking the thief. I thought you were suggesting that she either followed Lacy's tracks to steal the fake phoenix or followed Takezo's to steal the real phoenix. Both were good suggestions depending on Sumono's goals. I was a little confused by this part:
DeJoker says:
... maybe Lacy arrives at about the same time as you do and you try to learn something about her.
I thought maybe you meant ToDream's scene would start immediately after my suggested addition, so Lacy was still exiting the facility at the beginning of the scene, but I didn't clarify because I thought it was just a suggestion and I'd wait to see what ToDream actually decided to post. It didn't seem worth the discussion if ToDream decided on at different path.
DeJoker says:
... but as it stands someone else has already written it in stone ...
Do you mean ToDream's game post (HERE) has set it in stone? If so, I'm sure we can revisit the last two posts (ToDream's and mine) if you aren't happy with my addition to your scene. I can't speak for ToDream, but I'm definitely open to revisions/edits (I hope that's clear), especially if the edits are concerning the most recent posts (I agree, going back pages is probably a bad idea). As I said many times before, my post was just a suggestion, and I'm okay to remove it. I would appreciate some feedback about why in order to help me make better suggestions for your scenes later, but if you can't put your finger on why, that's okay too. Please trust me that I'm not trying to sneak a story element into the game that you don't like or agree with.
Jan 6, 2021 10:52 pm
So, the misunderstanding here is that DeJoker thought that Chalrytharendir was retracting the addition, while Chalrytharendir thought that DeJoker was okay with the addition.

I personally think the addition is fine, as DeJoker doesn't have to act on it, since it's reasonable if Takezo is already out of there by the time Lacy gets there. But it's up to you two to come to an agreement.

Also, welcome Aegis to the game, they're joining. Aegis, you can go ahead and make a character. It's the default character, no virtues and no flaws. I think a link to the discord is at the beginning of this thread.
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