Feb 11, 2023 1:27 pm
For anyone reading this, just to clarify I'm playing around with ideas for how to play this guy. None of this is Canon
Tiwaz Son of None
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Feb 13, 2023 10:44 pm
Hi! Can you please show me your character attribute math? I'm close, but I want to make sure I'm on the same page as you. Thanks!
Feb 13, 2023 11:25 pm
Str: 13 base +2 Human +1 4th level +2 6th Level
Dex: 14 base
Con: 14 base
Int: 10 base
Wis: 10 base
Cha: 12 +2 7th Level
Dex: 14 base
Con: 14 base
Int: 10 base
Wis: 10 base
Cha: 12 +2 7th Level
Feb 26, 2023 12:04 pm
"To think these walls were built in six months by one giant and a horse." The Sun Seeker touched the silver Sun on his Breastplate as he was want to do when awed. Looking upon the walls of Troy he shuddered at their insurmountable height and thickness. "I saw in a dream such walls would be laid low anew by a giant and a horse."
"You stare into the sun too long Luwian. It has addled your brain."
Tiwaz smirked nodded and hoisted the massive stone that was the ship's anchor. "Ah yes, it is Apollo's Frenzy. But tell me Ithacan, does not Apollo's frenzy a prophet make? Mark my prophecy well, those walls rose by giant and horse, they will fall in the same manner." He did it with ease lifting the load overhead, extending his arms, and lowering it to the deck. The Luwian's physique was Olympic in proportion, as he trained himself even still preparing for the coming battle. A perversion of the Grecian ideal, not simply toned sinew and muscle, but grotesquely large. His shoulders so thick it was if he had no neck. And thews the size of tree trucks. Hoisting the millstone again, to his waist, then catching it at his shoulders, and once more overhead. He trained in his armor, as was the Luwian way.
If he was uncomfortable under the tanned rhinoceros hide and metal armor he didn't show it, merely working up a fine sheen of swear that had his coppery hair near black in the surf. The young Barbarian prince teased the king of Ithaca as the oars pulled them ever closer to their prize. Again for the more than hundredth time, Tiwaz hoisted the millstone overhead. "Tell me great king, your bow, it is said no man boasts the strength to string it save you. Would you care to test that against a Luwian giant?"
A piece of hard cheese struck Tiwaz in the face, the reply of his benefactor. The unlikely pair burst into laughter as it stuck in the Luwian's sweat.
"You stare into the sun too long Luwian. It has addled your brain."
Tiwaz smirked nodded and hoisted the massive stone that was the ship's anchor. "Ah yes, it is Apollo's Frenzy. But tell me Ithacan, does not Apollo's frenzy a prophet make? Mark my prophecy well, those walls rose by giant and horse, they will fall in the same manner." He did it with ease lifting the load overhead, extending his arms, and lowering it to the deck. The Luwian's physique was Olympic in proportion, as he trained himself even still preparing for the coming battle. A perversion of the Grecian ideal, not simply toned sinew and muscle, but grotesquely large. His shoulders so thick it was if he had no neck. And thews the size of tree trucks. Hoisting the millstone again, to his waist, then catching it at his shoulders, and once more overhead. He trained in his armor, as was the Luwian way.
If he was uncomfortable under the tanned rhinoceros hide and metal armor he didn't show it, merely working up a fine sheen of swear that had his coppery hair near black in the surf. The young Barbarian prince teased the king of Ithaca as the oars pulled them ever closer to their prize. Again for the more than hundredth time, Tiwaz hoisted the millstone overhead. "Tell me great king, your bow, it is said no man boasts the strength to string it save you. Would you care to test that against a Luwian giant?"
A piece of hard cheese struck Tiwaz in the face, the reply of his benefactor. The unlikely pair burst into laughter as it stuck in the Luwian's sweat.
Mar 21, 2023 8:27 pm
Hey, just to keep my frazzled mind straight, I think we cut the "born of Osiris" part of Tiwaz's name. Just a reminder.
Mar 23, 2023 4:24 pm
5 Ranks+3 Trained +4 Speed +2 Dex = +14
This increases by a further +4 in a rage while his size increases for an additional 10ft of speed. +5 For Raging Leaper. But loses 1 for his dex bonus for size increase. For a total of +22
Since it seems I transposed this in error I'll grant he has been using his bloodrage. 3/8 rounds.
This increases by a further +4 in a rage while his size increases for an additional 10ft of speed. +5 For Raging Leaper. But loses 1 for his dex bonus for size increase. For a total of +22
Since it seems I transposed this in error I'll grant he has been using his bloodrage. 3/8 rounds.
Last edited March 23, 2023 4:56 pm
Mar 23, 2023 5:22 pm
Dang Skippy I didn't realize his size increased.
This is a cinematic fight for Tiwaz, so I won't use his resulting fatigue against him unless he tries something really unwise. The Greeks do win, after all.
This is a cinematic fight for Tiwaz, so I won't use his resulting fatigue against him unless he tries something really unwise. The Greeks do win, after all.
Mar 23, 2023 5:26 pm
Fatigue only lasts a number of rounds equal to twice the number spent in a rage, and we can always just use another rage to extend the rage timer... which we will if we have to
Mar 23, 2023 5:29 pm
That sounds dangerous, but go for it haha
I imagine you'll get the KO before this rage ends, or at least get dang close.
I imagine you'll get the KO before this rage ends, or at least get dang close.
Mar 27, 2023 2:55 pm
So I've been reading more in-depth on the bloodrager and all that so I understand it better. It's not a build I've used before, so I wanted to check some things. Here's what I wanted to clarify (which will not change past game actions).
1. The rage rounds are a total, not "per rage." So at 5th level, with your con score, you can rage 14 rounds per day.
2. You had used 4 rounds of rage to kill Polites, but then almost 3 minutes passed with folks talking. So due to your jumping rolls, I imagine you've started your rage up again, for 7/14 (getting into vantage and the blood offering, tearing and chucking the palladium, leaping down and away). But due to the talking time, we don't need to discuss fatigue.
3. I'm going to provide your limited bloodrager spell list for level 1 in another post in a moment. This is in the spirit of the "Hellenic Sorceress" and the low-magic setting. Enlarge person stays, of course. I liked how you flavored that one. The base bloodline powers seem to work, and I'll review spells as we get closer to those levels.
4. Note that the strength score changes in rage, not the modifier. It was wise to set your base score at an even number, because now you can take a full +2 to the modifier when you rage.
5. Due to the alternate critical rules in this game, I'm modifying the "Leaping Strike" feat. Instead of being a critical threat, it allows you to roll the attack with advantage (increasing your chance of a crit).
6. Bloodragers don't get barbarian rage effects because they get the bloodline and some magic instead. Please remove "Raging Leaper" and "Guarded Stance."
7. I believe you took the "Martyred" bloodline? If that's the case, at this level you should instead have "Ancestral Strikes (good-aligned)" and "Martyr's Resistances".
8. So if all my math is correct, your acrobatics when raging is
5 Ranks +3 Trained +2 Dex +4 speed = +14
If you're raging and big, +17
And normally +14, since acrobatics is dex-based and not affected by rage.
Note you only get the speed bonus for acrobatics when jumping or leaping, but I think that's all you've used it for so far.
These tables and whatever historical references I can find will be my guidelines for your leaping and jumping when it's relevant.
9. For your "King in Waiting" trait, I'm ascribing that to the blessing/curse of Apollo. It doesn't mean you have any royal heritage. There's not really a good in-character reason for you to stay with the Greeks after the war if you're actually supposed to be reclaiming a throne.
10. I just watned to make sure we were on the same page: You took the "martyred" bloodline due to family loss, and the blessing/curse of Apollo is a direct result of that, yes?
That's a lot, and I apologize, but hopefully it'll help me smooth out my understanding of combat and the like. Thanks!
1. The rage rounds are a total, not "per rage." So at 5th level, with your con score, you can rage 14 rounds per day.
2. You had used 4 rounds of rage to kill Polites, but then almost 3 minutes passed with folks talking. So due to your jumping rolls, I imagine you've started your rage up again, for 7/14 (getting into vantage and the blood offering, tearing and chucking the palladium, leaping down and away). But due to the talking time, we don't need to discuss fatigue.
3. I'm going to provide your limited bloodrager spell list for level 1 in another post in a moment. This is in the spirit of the "Hellenic Sorceress" and the low-magic setting. Enlarge person stays, of course. I liked how you flavored that one. The base bloodline powers seem to work, and I'll review spells as we get closer to those levels.
4. Note that the strength score changes in rage, not the modifier. It was wise to set your base score at an even number, because now you can take a full +2 to the modifier when you rage.
5. Due to the alternate critical rules in this game, I'm modifying the "Leaping Strike" feat. Instead of being a critical threat, it allows you to roll the attack with advantage (increasing your chance of a crit).
6. Bloodragers don't get barbarian rage effects because they get the bloodline and some magic instead. Please remove "Raging Leaper" and "Guarded Stance."
7. I believe you took the "Martyred" bloodline? If that's the case, at this level you should instead have "Ancestral Strikes (good-aligned)" and "Martyr's Resistances".
8. So if all my math is correct, your acrobatics when raging is
5 Ranks +3 Trained +2 Dex +4 speed = +14
If you're raging and big, +17
And normally +14, since acrobatics is dex-based and not affected by rage.
Note you only get the speed bonus for acrobatics when jumping or leaping, but I think that's all you've used it for so far.
These tables and whatever historical references I can find will be my guidelines for your leaping and jumping when it's relevant.
9. For your "King in Waiting" trait, I'm ascribing that to the blessing/curse of Apollo. It doesn't mean you have any royal heritage. There's not really a good in-character reason for you to stay with the Greeks after the war if you're actually supposed to be reclaiming a throne.
10. I just watned to make sure we were on the same page: You took the "martyred" bloodline due to family loss, and the blessing/curse of Apollo is a direct result of that, yes?
That's a lot, and I apologize, but hopefully it'll help me smooth out my understanding of combat and the like. Thanks!
Mar 28, 2023 1:32 pm
Modified 1st-level spell list
(Still subject to known/per day/etc.)
Biting Words
Blurred Movement
Cause Fear
Endure Elements
Enlarge Person
Jump
Long Arm
Sense Fear
Stone Fist
Thunderstomp
True Strike
I really liked how you had a reasonably mundane explanation for how "Enlarge Person" worked, so I chose similarly themed spells. At most you'll know 6 1st level spells, maybe a few more depending on your relevant ability, so this should provide some good variety.
(Still subject to known/per day/etc.)
Biting Words
Blurred Movement
Cause Fear
Endure Elements
Enlarge Person
Jump
Long Arm
Sense Fear
Stone Fist
Thunderstomp
True Strike
I really liked how you had a reasonably mundane explanation for how "Enlarge Person" worked, so I chose similarly themed spells. At most you'll know 6 1st level spells, maybe a few more depending on your relevant ability, so this should provide some good variety.