Character Creation and World Building

Feb 16, 2017 1:32 am
Before we jump in to making characters I think we should start by establishing some things about Tirisfel, and the world it lives in.

Tirisfel isn't a large town, it contains maybe 100 or so people, my gut reaction is to make the major race humans, but I'd be open to being convinced differently...

I'd like this game to have a strong feel of the diablo aesthetic in the game, so we probably will keep the tech stuff moderately low (no artificers then). I'm currently debating with myself if I want to outright ban clerics and warlocks as well, or if they just need a reskin, or if I'm just being silly and they actually fit. Thoughts?

I'll be curious to know if you are familiar with the diablo series or not, so let me know either here or in the OOC.
Feb 16, 2017 1:51 am
I am not familiar with the diablo series, and I will not be overly put out if warlocks and clerics are invalid. With the situation you stipulated, I'm considering a half-elf bard, though I could go human rogue... I also have a elf UA Hunter Conclave ranger pre-generated at level 3 from another game. I love monks, but since you said this is going to be less combat oriented I'm looking at less combat oriented options...
As to predominant race, I'm really not picky.
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Feb 16, 2017 2:24 am
Will this lean outdoors? I was thinking high wisdom ranger (UA) can be the healer to some extent. Also, if you would leverage passive perception for the RP of it, I was thinking human variant with observant feat to be that guy who is good at just seeing stuff....Oh look, tracks! And I wasn't even looking for them! (unless you feel that combat is more important, then maybe crossbow expert feat ) I would need to know a tad bit more about the world to pick the right favored enemy.... if it is underground mostly (dungeon crawling in hell?), then maybe deep stalker...

I only dabbled in Diablo
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Feb 16, 2017 2:29 am
Also, what level do you envision this going to?
Feb 16, 2017 3:03 am
So with all of the shadows roaming around, I'm sure that favoured enemy (undead) is probably the most sensible.

I haven't really chosen a destination for this, I feel that we will level, but I'm not sure how many times. This is mostly because I kind of want to know what you guys are keen to do. Currently I have a more overland kind of feel but that's just for the start. I have some plans for a massive dungeon crawl that we could do if you want, or we can focus more on the settlement if that's what your more eager for.

There will be some combat but it won't be a focus.
Feb 16, 2017 4:08 am
Why wouldn't I let that, fits perfectly in the setting!
Feb 16, 2017 4:13 am
The feature is OP but really cool.
Feb 16, 2017 4:19 am
I never saw it that way, there are sufficient conditions on it that keeps it manageable, also the RP powers don't allow you to do crazy things in my experience.
Feb 16, 2017 4:20 am
I have played Diablo few times before, but I was quite younger than I am now so I would say that I am not familiar.

I was imagining a Human Fighter. I am not familiar with the non-PHB classes which is why I chose fighter above all. He will be a hero of the people; laying down his life to protect others. I didn't suppose a selfless nob;e would fit, so I saw Folk Hero for thhe people to be the proper background choice.
Feb 16, 2017 4:54 am
I played Diablo 1 & 2 extensively on Windows PC back in the 90's, and got to try Diablo 3 on PlayStation last year. Great fun! For classes if it were up to me to approximate the theme I'd say Clerics are definitely out, though Paladins are in. I might keep Warlock but ban Fiend patrons. Then again, I can totally see a hero in this story striking a deal with one fiend to defeat another! As for race, yeah it seems humans only is the way to go but if you feel that's too limiting then at least ban tieflings, maybe?
Feb 16, 2017 5:06 am
I was considering running humans and halfhumans only. I was also planning on allowing tieflings and aasimar but just having them as humans of different lineages. After all in the setting everyone hast the blood of angels and demons in there veins.
Feb 16, 2017 5:21 am
That makes sense. :-)

And you did say you are simply taking inspiration from Diablo anyway - there's really nothing reason not to put your own spin to it.
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Feb 16, 2017 10:59 am
Jabes, another game? This is an illness. ;)
Feb 16, 2017 11:24 am
I think I will go for a half-elf bard then, with the stipulations you've set up. No college choice yet, but very possibly college of lore.
I'm game to take this as far as the DM feels like.
Feb 16, 2017 12:48 pm
XOSkel10 says:
Jabes, another game? This is an illness. ;)
I know, I know. :-D
Feb 16, 2017 7:45 pm
When creating our characters are we to roll within the forum, use the point-buy system, or either of them?
Feb 16, 2017 9:03 pm
I'm fine with either, but no w of this in between stuff, so if you roll, you can't then decide you'll do point buy after seeing the results.
Feb 16, 2017 9:44 pm
Genisisect says:
I'm fine with either, but no w of this in between stuff, so if you roll, you can't then decide you'll do point buy after seeing the results.
I did point buy because I already have a specific build in mind.
Feb 17, 2017 1:06 am
Genesis, do we get any rerolls?
Feb 17, 2017 1:15 am
I use 4d6 drop the lowest. If your net bonus is 0 or less I'll let you scrap the whole array and start again (and by start again I mean from the beginning, where you choose if you want to roll or do standard arrays). This is kind of a hard line on the whole rolling thing, but in my mind if you take the roll over the standard array or point buying it's because in some sense you want your characters array to be unbalanced. Sure you probably want it to be better then the standard but it does come with the risk of being worse.
Feb 17, 2017 1:23 am
Net bonus is 0 or less? What's that mean?
Let's go with rolls.
And we're looking at...
14
14
10
11
15
13
Not much better than the normal, actually, but still good. I like it. No 1 rerolls, right?
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Rolls

Stats - (4d6, 4d6, 4d6, 4d6, 4d6, 4d6)

4d6 : (6351) = 15

4d6 : (3365) = 17

4d6 : (2244) = 12

4d6 : (2145) = 12

4d6 : (1456) = 16

4d6 : (3624) = 15

Feb 17, 2017 1:51 am
So in your case, with array {15,14,14,13,11,10}, the your ability bonuses (before modifications) are {+2,+2,+2,+1,+1,+0} so the net bonus is +8. Not that use want to reroll...

And no reroll ones, also double check your maths I got {15,14,14,13,11,10}
Feb 17, 2017 2:09 am
Yep, you're right. Earlier post edited to fit.
Feb 17, 2017 4:13 am
So I think I'll lock in the everyone is human or half-human, with the half-humans really just being different human lineages (instead of being cross breeds). With that in mind, how about you guys get involved in fleshing out the town a bit. Give me two townsfolk each; one who owes you something and one you owe something too (if they have a building feel free to establish that too).

You may not know this yet but if you've chosen a back ground use that to establish what you have been doing around the town before you started adventuring.

Finally we should start talking about if you lot have fought together before. In an isolated town of 100 or so people you would at the very least know each other already so that's not the question, but are you all friends? Comrades? etc.
Feb 17, 2017 6:44 am
Let's roll em!

Result: 10, 15, 9, 16, 13, 11. I can work with that.
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Rolls

Stats - (4d6, 4d6, 4d6, 4d6, 4d6, 4d6)

4d6 : (4133) = 11

4d6 : (6316) = 16

4d6 : (1612) = 10

4d6 : (5625) = 18

4d6 : (6152) = 14

4d6 : (2623) = 13

Feb 17, 2017 6:46 am
Hmm, {16,15,13,11,10,9}, not bad, slightly better then a standard array but not too good.
Feb 17, 2017 6:56 am
Is a Goliath a human with giant blood? In other words, is a Goliath allowed? I'm considering a barbarian.

Actually, never mind. If acceptable, I think I might go Arcane Archer as I haven't tried that before. What's everybody else playing? Is anyone making a tank?
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Feb 17, 2017 8:01 am
I think the comp is ranger, bard, fighter and what ever your going. I recon we have enough heals, health and dps for you to pick what ever you want. And sure, Goliaths are half human....
Feb 17, 2017 11:32 am
I'll get rolling on that when I get home from school/theater practice (7 EST).
Feb 17, 2017 3:38 pm
My PC, i'm hoping, will be a tanky fighter. And if I am not mistaken, there are healing potions as well
Feb 18, 2017 5:00 pm
Ability Scores

Rolls

4d6 - (4d6)

(3211) = 7

4d6 - (4d6)

(5543) = 17

4d6 - (4d6)

(6243) = 15

4d6 - (4d6)

(2535) = 15

4d6 - (4d6)

(5156) = 17

4d6 - (4d6)

(3653) = 17

Feb 18, 2017 5:24 pm
So...
6, 14, 13, 13, 16, 14.
I guess it's okay? That 6 though is gonna hurt...
I'm thinking a variant human with the Sentinel feat (I absolutely love variant, because feats add so much flavor to a character. ability scores get kinda boring honestly.) I was thinking Fighter Battlemaster with Protection fighting style. Nothing wrong with 3 tanks right? If that's too much, I can easily think of something else.
Feb 18, 2017 10:33 pm
Im_That_0n3_Guy says:
So...
6, 14, 13, 13, 16, 14.
I guess it's okay? That 6 though is gonna hurt...
I'm thinking a variant human with the Sentinel feat (I absolutely love variant, because feats add so much flavor to a character. ability scores get kinda boring honestly.) I was thinking Fighter Battlemaster with Protection fighting style. Nothing wrong with 3 tanks right? If that's too much, I can easily think of something else.
My character is a Fighter Champion with Protection fighting style if that makes a difference.
Feb 18, 2017 11:26 pm
I don't think it really matters of we have a lot of tanks.
Feb 19, 2017 12:33 am
Well I do have another idea actually. I'll be a Cleric of Life with the Healer feat. To be honest, I don't think I've ever ran a Cleric before, so that'd be fun! How's that everybody?
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Feb 19, 2017 12:36 am
Looks good to me! My bard might have some healing, depending on what sort of character I feel like he will be/what college I go.
Feb 19, 2017 1:58 am
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I believe we decided that considering the godless nature of Diablo, we would ban clerics (and the fiend patron for warlocks). We already have a half healer with the bard, but if you want to add to the health pool could I suggest Paladin or Druid.
Feb 19, 2017 1:59 am
I can see the note @Genesis, you forgot to add a name.
Feb 19, 2017 2:00 am
I made an Arcane Archer. Will introduce her here once I've figured out her backstory and the two NPC's Genisisect asked for.
Feb 19, 2017 2:02 am
I'm afraid I've not been able to really do anything on my bard. :/ I've been busy as all get out, only able to post some. However, I'll get going on all that ASA I can.
Feb 19, 2017 2:02 am
Fixed, there was an issue with how I typed his name in the first time...
Feb 19, 2017 2:03 am
Ranger Riach is ready, he also has the heals.
Feb 19, 2017 4:26 am
@Genesisect, I will post my stats and character once I have access to my laptop. I'd rather not bother trying with my phone.
Feb 19, 2017 6:39 am
@XOSkel10: Where is the Monster Hunter’s Pack from?
Feb 19, 2017 6:43 am
The touched by darkness background out of the ravenloft book.
Feb 19, 2017 6:49 am
Ah. Thanks! Is it exclusive to that background? Just curious. Kinda cool, but doesn't quite fit my character anyway.

I have a bunch of unnecessary items from my class/background equipment packages. Can I sell them back at full or half price?
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Feb 19, 2017 7:16 am
You can sell back at full value, but should buy something's as replacements so you don't start the game with a huge lump sum.
Feb 19, 2017 7:21 am
Yeah I'd like to buy stuff that's more appropriate to the character.

I doubt it'll ever come into play mechanically, but Folk Hero allows for a set of artisan's tools. I'm not feeling any of the ones listed in the PHB so I put down basketweaver's tools. I hope that's okay!
Feb 19, 2017 1:57 pm
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@XOSkel10: Where is the Monster Hunter’s Pack from?
link here...Haunted One background from Curse of Strahd. . I found this PDF at WotC, it has a matching trinket table included. If you all are into trinkets to drive your RP, this tablet may be interesting for anyone.
Feb 19, 2017 3:43 pm
@XOSkel10: I'm digging those trinkets!
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Lilith, human Arcane Archer

The details vary in the telling, but no one will forget the day Lilith, the basketweaver who lives alone in a hut in the woods just outside Tirisfel, saved the lives of Joab, the guardsman, Molly, the washerwoman, and their little daughter Sara. By some accounts the great boar that charged out of the woods was as tall as a man. Some say it was as big as a house. Others say the beast wasn't a boar at all, but a demon with eyes like coals, and tusks like scimitars. What everyone agrees on is that Lilith emerged from the woods, her eyes aglow with eldritch power, to stand alone against the monster. She drew a great bow and felled the beast with two arrows. Lilith was lauded as a hero after that, though for a while people were a little scared of her. But these were people she'd known all her life, and saw at market on Saturdays when they came to buy her baskets. In time she fit in among them again. But now in these dark days the time has come for Lilith to take up her bow once more.

Someone who owes me: Not that I expect any repayment, but I suppose Joab and his family feel indebted to me.
Someone I owe: This would be the fey creature (who lives in the forest) who taught me my arcane archery. But if it should be one of the townsfolk then I can come up with something.
Feb 19, 2017 5:14 pm
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Evangeline "Angel", Human Paladin of the Crown.

Naught but an adolescent when the star fell, Evangeline's parents were taken by the shadows- she lost everything, and nearly died herself when the heroes saved her. They saw potential in her, and brought her to Tirisfel to be raised in training. Each Paladin was given a symbol to represent themselves. Her symbol was a Red Rose, for her beauty was stunning, her hair was "blessed by fire" being a flaming crimson. But don't mistake her beauty for weakness, as all Roses are guarded by thorns- thus representing her sword-arm and sharp wit, her ability to defend herself and the other flowers in the garden. As all Paladins are known as warriors of light, she goes by the nickname "Angel" as it is a condensed version of Evangeline anyway- she feels it also represents the type of person she wishes to be.
She has taken her Oath to the Crown- swearing to defend the precious lives that remain, promising to protect order against chaos, and to march forward with bravery. "The Rose Angel" is ready to fight and die to find the heroes who saved her all those years ago, but especially to save the lives who need her during these dark times.

Someone I owe: I owe my life, and more to Ser Claymore Merilion; he was both my foster father, and master knight of the order. He trained me, and raised me into the person I am today, and I am forever grateful for him.

Someone who owes me: Before I was to take my oath, like every Paladin, we have to undergo intense trials to prove our worth. One day, I saved a guardsmen from being attacked by a mischievous pack of goblins. He was to be hung over a fire, and cooked to a crisp if I didn't help him. His name is Astrik.
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Feb 19, 2017 8:48 pm
A quick note about the people who you owe/who owe you, I'm looking to add some NOCs around town using this, so I'd appreciate it if you don't use an already established character. So in one guys post he established Astrix the guard, so I don't want to see him turn up again. In the same line, the Heroes both have already been established and are no longer in the town (having disappeared), so could you create a new NPC in there place One guy? Perhaps an old knight who established the knightly order instead of the Heroes, who were not around for long enough to do that.
Feb 19, 2017 9:43 pm
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Riach, Hunter of Fear, Human Deep Stalker Ranger,

Although the white hair on a man so young might be the first thing you notice, just a short conversation with Riach will bring your focus to his eyes. The irises, nearly white as ice on a lake, will forever be that which you remember. Some say that there is something lurking deep in those eyes, but others will say the opposite; that it is something missing, other than the color, which makes one uneasy, frightened, yet compelled to continue the conversation.

Riach will rarely tell, even when pressed, of the day nearly nine years ago when he returned to his village with a brace of rabbits had for his family. There he found the village razed, and saw the remnants of an undead army racing quickly northward. A frightful presence lingered over the village. It coalesced into a being, an entity, which leaped into the air above Riach's head and menaced over him, staring down at him as he crumpled to the ground in fear. There may have been a malicious grin, or perhaps just a hallucination from the fear, before the entity flew northward behind the army. For no reason it seems, Riach was left alive while his family and the people of his village lay drained of their lives.

Riach has since turned his hunting skills toward the undead and the demons that command them, vowing to protect the innocent from such things, in any way possible, and at any cost. He has adopted Tirisfel as his home when he is not out searching for justice.

Someone I owe: I owe my family, my friends, and my village the little peace that may come from my attempts to protect others from a fate such as theirs.
I owe Dernal, the innkeeper, and his daughter Meladi for their gift of friendship. He has been unquestioning in his kindness to me, and they are the only people in town who treat me like a person. Although I try, I feel I have not been a friend to them. Perhaps the greatest gift they have given me is the thread of sanity in my life.

Someone who owes me: I shouldn't even be alive. No one can ever owe me anything. Perhaps the multiverse owes me an explanation, but I will never hope to get one.
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Feb 20, 2017 1:58 am
I made some sub threads where we can keep track of these NPCs etc. Good job so far guys.
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Flynn Varis, Journeyman of the College of Lore Musicalea et Magica
Flynn Bartholomew Varis is a half-elf. If he doesn't talk, that's the first thing you notice about him. Pointy ears, longer features... or I guess you might notice the fact that he walks like he owns the world. Can't really tell which one you'd notice first. Kinda depends on the person, I s'pose. Or you might notice that he dresses like a sailor even though he's not close to the sea. If there is a sea any more, after that darn Darkstar blew everything to necrotic hellfire. Anyhow, that's all if he doesn't talk. If he does, that's definitely the first thing you notice. His voice. Kinda hard to describe, honestly. It's been called deep and manly and tonal and such, and its been called worse than the sound nails make on a chalkboard. Kinda depends on the person talkin' about it, I s'pose. The author of this little bit is of the prior persuasion, but then I suppose he's a tad bit biased. Anyhow, Flynn first came to Tirisfel 'bout 9 years back. Probably comin' up on the day exactly, to be honest. Just had got his degree from "ye ol' College" and was headed out into the world to do whatever it was the bards do--sing, I guess? Flynn wasn't real sure at the time, but he did know that he wanted to make people happy. So he strides into Tirisfel for the night, sets up shop at the local inn, and sets to playin'. All of a sudden, there's a boom like a storm giant had clobbered the ninnypins outta another storm giant an' three of the audience, all dressed in armor 'n such, run out the door and get to work quick. Flynn just keeps on performin', but no one's really listening. Anyhow, after the Darkstar, Flynn couldn't really leave. Had to stay in Tirisfel, so he set up permanent-like there and took to being the town bard. Some people like him, some people don't, but just about everybody thinks he can be a tolerable person just so long as he doesn't start swapping insults with someone. Of course, he thinks its all good fun, but other people don't seem to always get the vibe...
--Excerpt from the Autobiographical Memoirs of Flynn Bartholomew Varis, Esquire
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SOMEONE WHO OWES ME: One of the young men in the town, Benj, owes me in a manner o' speakin'. A group of bullies were getting on his sister Giana and, him being a little tyke at the time, he was unable to stand up to them. He tried alright; got himself a black eye for his trouble, but at least he tried. I respect that. Anywho, I was just come in to town when I saw this going down and I saw Benj take a lick, so I pulled out my choicest insults and sent them at those bullies. Little Viscious Mockery action--I'd just picked up the little trick and was dying to try it. Anyway, the biggest guy took it real hard. He took it so hard he missed his next punch at Benj an' ended up clobbering his own mate. Knocked him out cold. Another string of my choicest 'son of a...' clauses and the three big bad bullies were laid out in the street. Benj an' his sis have been my best pals ever since. Orphaned an' all, I'm really glad to be an' have been able to help 'um.
SOMEONE I OWE: Somehow I don't owe anyone money. Paid it all off someway or another I guess. But I still owe someone. I owe someone everything. Girl by the name of Loo. Long blonde hair, blue eyes, ears just a tad pointy jus' the way I like 'um, body to die--ahurrumph. Well, anyway. Loo's just my name for her, yasee. Everyone else calls her Selena. Prettier name than Loo, Selena is, but Loo is my pet name for her. As to business, I owe Loo my integrity. Can't say how many times I woulda done the wrong thing, but the thought of her set me right again. I've been trying to get her love for more years 'n I care to count, but we finally set to courting 'bout a year back and just this past week we got engaged. But, as Muse would have it, I feel called to go with this merry bunch of heroes going out to save the world just after we get engaged. I know I'm a bard an' all, but I'm gonna kill the Muse fer that. But I'm gonna do it for Loo. You bet, an' I'm gonna come back in one piece to see her again when this bit's all said an' done.
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Feb 20, 2017 3:13 am
I realised I kept the mechanism for keeping the shadows away. I think I'm going to go with a special magic circle. Magic circles don't persist though so the town needs to constantly resupply the primary reagent. I'm going to go with salt for that purpose, it's reasonably accessible but might still be a struggle to resupply. Now it's peoples jobs to go around and put fresh salt in the magic circle (but they don't need to be spell casters to do that).

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Feb 20, 2017 3:17 am
Lilith lives outside of town. I wonder, does she maintain her own magic circle around her cottage or do her fey friends protect her?
Feb 20, 2017 3:32 am
There would need to be safe farms, and perhaps a safe source of lumber so perhaps the magic circle is extended around the the city. Maybe Lilith's hut is just inside the circle, away from the town but still safe from the shades.
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Feb 20, 2017 7:48 pm
Sorry guys about the notes, didn't want to spam or confuse you guys with my characters history stuff.
Feb 20, 2017 7:50 pm
We know that you are plotting against us all, no worries.
Feb 20, 2017 7:51 pm
Well if you're shadows, then yes, death to you all! HUZZAH!
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Feb 20, 2017 8:15 pm
We probably won't hold it against you.
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Feb 21, 2017 2:42 am
How do you all find these amazing images? Simply just Google images or a site I am just unaware of?
Feb 21, 2017 2:46 am
I just do a Google Image search. And also use Pinterest. Here's one of my Pinterest boards. Feel free to browse and use anything.
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Feb 21, 2017 2:55 am
I use Google images, though sometimes I have to search for something that I don't actually want/something broader and that's what brings up what I really want. And other times I just find something amazing right away. xD
Feb 21, 2017 3:07 am
I had come across this image which gets quite a good grasp on Grigor himself, but when I saw all the images of the other PC's I began to doubt myself. Haha! Also, when might be the starting time for this game? No hurries, just want to know if I need to hammer down on finishing my character as I had been busy this weekend.

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Feb 21, 2017 3:13 am
iCryotic says:
I had come across this image which gets quite a good grasp on Grigor himself, but when I saw all the images of the other PC's I began to doubt myself. Haha!
I think it's great!
Feb 21, 2017 3:35 am
P'm not aiming for a rapid start to this one, as part of the drive for this game is having a well developed home for the characters which you guys contribute towards. I wouldn't mind seeing an episode 0 in a week, so long as most of the details are finalised.

Honestly there is no rush...
Feb 21, 2017 3:58 am
Gen, did you see my last note? I think you skipped it XD
Feb 21, 2017 4:04 am
Could have sworn I had responded to that. I like the new name you proposed, really suits what we're going for!
Feb 21, 2017 2:27 pm
Okay cool! Just wanted to make sure you confirmed it. Knights of the Undaunted Crusade it is!
Feb 21, 2017 4:49 pm
An isolated town, with no imports or exports, would have little or no economy. Is everything communal? Barter system? Is there a strong government forcing a certain economy? Is it a black market? Are there protected farms, both for produce and livestock?
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Feb 21, 2017 5:10 pm
It's obvious: crops and livestock respawn every time you return to the town square! Try this: kill that chicken over there. See, it respawned! Unlimited resources, man!
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Feb 21, 2017 8:37 pm
Heh...

Really I'm looking at a communal sort of thing. The town really came together when the dark star fell, everyone working hard to keep the whole town going. There are a few of the close to town farms still in operation, it's been just barely enough to keep everyone going.
Feb 21, 2017 11:00 pm
Any particular form of government, and head of such government?
Feb 21, 2017 11:53 pm
Also, I posted a few things in the Setting Details Forums if you want to check out details on the Order and a few characters :)
Feb 22, 2017 12:20 am
I'm thinking a loose oligarchy, with the 'leaders' of the town are just notable people about town. So Ser Claymore would be one of them. I like what you've done with the characters.
Feb 22, 2017 2:48 am
Cool, thanks for the info. Nice, I'm glad you like them! Is there anything else you'd want me to add before we start? I'm going to go finish up Angels character sheet to add in background features and the likes.
Feb 22, 2017 1:34 pm
That farm seems familiar. I am pretty certain that farmer owes Grigor something. But I am not too sure why.

Also, would there happen to be a sort of Fighter's Guild? And do we happen to already have a battle master?
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Feb 23, 2017 2:12 am
I'm can't get the situation out of my head. How an isolated town would survive would be a major factor in the narrative. I have read that you need 2 acres of land to feed for a family of four well. This may include room for pigs (meat) goats (milk) and chickens (eggs). Can the town keep this kind of a standard of living? Has everyone been living way below this level for multiple years? Are they dying? Other resources are critical too, are there winters? Inefficient colonial homes needed "upwards of 40 cords" of wood a year. That is 160 11" trees (per home) according to one chart. Gathering that wood and managing the surrounding woodlands to keep it sustained would be a big deal (says the ranger). everyone would have full time jobs managing the minimal resources just to survive, which sounds about right. I would see that the ranger, if not doing the hunter/gatherer thing to add to the food stores, would be needed to scout for/protect the woodsman, farmers and salt miners while they are doing their jobs. This would be in conjunction with the close combat guarded needed for any resources gathering sortie.
It would take something major to feel the need to abandon these duties. Perhaps a resource crisis has occurs after 9 years of barely getting on? What could a team of adventures be after that would be worth the risk and loss of help at home. A magical artifact that could generate food, wool, fuel? Or one that could offer a larger range of protection than the magic circles (allowing the town to get critical resources from a larger area)?
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Feb 23, 2017 2:17 am
Speaking of Rangers, perhaps you can add in a Ranger corps organization that was formed purposefully to maintain resources- all the members could also provide good berries to get by.
Feb 23, 2017 4:22 am
My whole idea of the Fighters Guild would hold the same purpose as the guild present in the Elder Scrolls, specificially Oblivion. This is the best way to explain it:

The Fighters Guild, present across most of Tamriel, provides a common and, more importantly, public place of training, study, and employment for those of a martial persuasion. The guild is a professional organization chartered by the Emperor to regulate the hiring and training of mercenaries, protect commerce, capture or drive away beasts, and similar security duties. Guild halls can take on a contract from any citizen, provided it does not conflict with the laws or customs of the region.

It would more than likely be a smaller establishment of a guild, but Grigor would definitely be a member of it if it is present in Tirisfel.
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Feb 23, 2017 5:59 am
I was thinking of adding the remnants of a Rangers/Druids group; I was planning a single 5th level Druid and maybe 4 rangers of lower levels. The Druid can bless what few fields that are safe to have double the yield, and between all of them they can provide 14 castings of Goodberry; enough to sustain 140 people, which is more then my planned town size. So the town can certainly subsist on what's available.

It's pretty temperate, so the town doesn't need a lot of wood; but there is a Forrest between the town and the salt marsh so wood is available (though a risky resource to get).

I was also going to have the town inherit an alchemical jug from the old heroes, so that'll also help.

On fighters guilds; the only plan group I had was a makeshift guard, with the Knights added in I would be reluctant to add a third... Maybe the guild you described above could be the town guards.

On motivation to quest; with the falling of a new star the town needs someone to go out and investigate. You are those someones.
Feb 23, 2017 6:02 am
As I said at the start, this campaign could go in a number of directions; it could become a survival style game; where you guys are fighting against the hostile elements trying to let the town thrive, or it could become an atmospheric exploration game, or it could become a dungeon crawl into hell. We'll see which way the game goes...
Feb 23, 2017 6:16 am
Jabes.plays.RPG says:
It's obvious: crops and livestock respawn every time you return to the town square! Try this: kill that chicken over there. See, it respawned! Unlimited resources, man!
I was only half joking. It's definitely fun to go simulationist and go for realism (as much realism as can be had in a fantasy world) but definitely not every game/story has to make sense.
Genisisect says:
As I said at the start, this campaign could go in a number of directions...
So yeah, I'm on board for survival and resource management but also totally on board for just starting with a McGuffin and going hack & slash.
Feb 23, 2017 6:26 am
Genisisect says:
On fighters guilds; the only plan group I had was a makeshift guard, with the Knights added in I would be reluctant to add a third... Maybe the guild you described above could be the town guards.

On motivation to quest; with the falling of a new star the town needs someone to go out and investigate. You are those someones.
Sounds good to me. I might be overthinking all of this. The only reason I was hesitant to have Grigor be a knight is because they are specially trained to become paladins, whereas Grigor is a fighter.

If you are stretching this out for me, I would be more than okay with him not being a part of a faction. Whichever you might prefer.
Feb 23, 2017 6:47 am
iCryotic says:
The only reason I was hesitant to have Grigor be a knight is because they are specially trained to become paladins, whereas Grigor is a fighter.

If you are stretching this out for me, I would be more than okay with him not being a part of a faction. Whichever you might prefer.
Guy could tell me otherwise, but I felt the Knights weren't neccescairily Paladins. The distinction between the Knights and the guards in my mind was going to be one is more heavily armoured and meant for melee, and the guards were going to be more in leathers with bows.

You don't need to make a group; I just realised that I should have a place for you guys to record them as they are created.
Feb 23, 2017 6:50 am
Genisisect says:
Guy could tell me otherwise, but I felt the Knights weren't neccescairily Paladins. The distinction between the Knights and the guards in my mind was going to be one is more heavily armoured and meant for melee, and the guards were going to be more in leathers with bows.

You don't need to make a group; I just realised that I should have a place for you guys to record them as they are created.
In that case, he would be a knight. I had just read the description and it had said "trained to be paladins."
Feb 23, 2017 9:14 am
That could just be her particular path, others train as tacticians, or bulwarks etc. a knighthood of just Paladins lacks a certain amount of combat versatility after all.
Feb 23, 2017 11:21 am
Genisisect says:
I was thinking of adding the remnants of a Rangers/Druids group; I was planning a single 5th level Druid and maybe 4 rangers of lower levels. The Druid can bless what few fields that are safe to have double the yield, and between all of them they can provide 14 castings of Goodberry; enough to sustain 140 people, which is more then my planned town size. So the town can certainly subsist on what's available.
On motivation to quest; with the falling of a new star the town needs someone to go out and investigate.
Perfect, this answered my lingering questions and is exactly why goodberry was on my spell list from the start. Sending 5% of the towns folk out to investigate the second star would be a big decision for the town council. Particularly since those sent are necessarily above average in capability.
Feb 23, 2017 11:52 am
Well that raises two questions. 1: would you guys have volunteered to join this mission. 2: would you like to play out that scene as our chapter 0?
Feb 23, 2017 12:07 pm
I was just thinking that the innkeeper, Dernal, has had his role in town expanded from the standard "consoler pouring drinks" to unofficial town clerk/judge. He gets involved in resolving conflicts and suggesting minor punishments if there is an issue. He also expanded his management skill from the inn (seeing how there are no customers anyway) to the town, directing people when there is a special task needed. In this case there are many townsfolk worried about the new star fall, and trying to calm their fear, a suggestion is made to send out a team. He is loath to risk anyone, everyone in town is a friend he would rather not lose.
Feb 23, 2017 12:13 pm
Flynn felt called to do this, yes he did. He'd sung his songs and done his dances more times 'n he cares to count, but he's yearnin' to do somethin' greater. This looks like as gooda chance as any.
-Excerpt from the Autobiographical Notes of Flynn Bartholomew Varis, Esquire
Feb 23, 2017 3:11 pm
Lilith would have volunteered, yes.
Feb 23, 2017 4:54 pm
Don't know if it was brought up earlier. What're we doing for languages? Just common?
Feb 23, 2017 7:56 pm
I'm sorry, I can clarify that no, not all Knights are specifically Paladins. Each child trained is evaluated and then get assigned to a specific field of training based off their skillset. THEY DO however have to follow the Paladins Oath of the Crown. If you're character is in the Knights, make sure to alter your background to fit since every Knight trains all of their youth. Also, add in what your symbol is. Basically think Spartans from Halo.
Feb 23, 2017 7:59 pm
#FireteamOsiris Halo is amazing. @my avatar.
Feb 24, 2017 2:19 am
So just alter the background to add in his childhood/training and give him a KoUA symbol?

I assumed you meant to add in more information as his path to become an official Knight.
Feb 24, 2017 4:03 am
Yeah, add in why Ser Claymore picked you, what kind of training you had, and the symbol that represents you. Genisis, do you want me to create the other NPC Knights? Or would you want to do that yourself?
Feb 24, 2017 4:48 am
I'll leave it loose for now, so that if we need a knight in the future to fit a particular narrative space we can just add them in.
Feb 24, 2017 3:42 pm
I found this image. I am not a big Halo person, so I do not know the Halo meaning of this image. But I found that it can hold several meanings to it which is why I love it.

P.S.: I hadn't realized how big it was until I posted it.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d2/ce/c0/d2cec059e55a211e3dcf30caac3c1735.png
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Feb 24, 2017 4:22 pm
In response to your PM @Cryo, I don't know what that symbol is--I've never seen it before. I'd guess a Fireteam sign, but you can put whatever meaning to it you want.
Feb 24, 2017 4:54 pm
Sounds good to me. I thought I'd run by it with you as I had assumed you know a bit about Halo.
Feb 24, 2017 5:02 pm
I do, but I've never seen that before. Was there no description with it?
Feb 24, 2017 5:05 pm
I was not able to go to the website on my school laptop.
Feb 27, 2017 2:59 am
That my friend is the Spartan Branch Logo. Are you aiming to be known as "The Spartan", or were you liking the Eagle aspect, and be known as "The Eagle"?
Feb 27, 2017 5:44 am
I would propose "The Eagle" as I don't think "Sparta" exists in my not earth fantasy setting.
Feb 27, 2017 11:26 am
*slaps forehead* how'd I not know that.
Mar 2, 2017 4:57 pm
I wasn't aiming for either of those to be honest. But "the Eagle" sounds good.

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