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Len

Jan 17, 2018 11:36 pm
@Kit: yes, that would have been interesting!
Jan 18, 2018 12:22 am
Given that we're in combat, would my stealth roll and position have any impact or is that offset by Aegar?

Len

Jan 18, 2018 3:27 am
Your stealth roll could have an impact. You are hidden to any creature that has a lower passive perception than your stealth roll. However, since you are behind a big wooden door, you are both effectively hidden no matter what since they can't see through doors (probably). When they open the doors, you aren't in a very good hiding spot so no matter how good the roll is you'll still be visible. But if you tried to hide behind the table or the bar, you could become hidden and roll with advantage when you attack, or try to stay out of combat altogether.
Jan 18, 2018 12:55 pm
I just tried to edit the sheet for Iman's movement. Let me know if it saved! Also, for movement, would movement across a square diagonally be 5ft?
Jan 18, 2018 1:07 pm
G3rmanicus says:
Also, for movement, would movement across a square diagonally be 5ft?
Short answer: Yes. Len has said he's counting diagonals as 5 feet.

Longer answer: There's an alternative rule that counts every other diagonal as 10 feet. One of the DMs in my RL group uses this rule. It is a pain. But, then, so is he. On especially long moves, you end up having to count squares out several times, everything gets slowed down, and combat becomes a slog. I'm sure a better DM could make it work (and play by post could offer the luxury of time to count squares forever), but I've found that all it does is slow down play and turn combat into a chore.

Although I'm probably a little biased since the RL DM who does this treats D&D like a board game anyway.
Jan 18, 2018 2:44 pm
McDunno says:
G3rmanicus says:
Also, for movement, would movement across a square diagonally be 5ft?
Short answer: Yes. Len has said he's counting diagonals as 5 feet.

Longer answer: There's an alternative rule that counts every other diagonal as 10 feet. One of the DMs in my RL group uses this rule. It is a pain. But, then, so is he. On especially long moves, you end up having to count squares out several times, everything gets slowed down, and combat becomes a slog. I'm sure a better DM could make it work (and play by post could offer the luxury of time to count squares forever), but I've found that all it does is slow down play and turn combat into a chore.

Although I'm probably a little biased since the RL DM who does this treats D&D like a board game anyway.
Awesome. Thanks for the response! The spreadsheet made it a lot easier to picture the scene :D
Jan 18, 2018 4:32 pm
Moving these comments to the OOC to declutter the main feed:
OOC:
Just a reminder, any enemy that comes within 10 feet of Iman gets an attack of opportunity against it as his reaction! (I thought of this as I went to the grid and saw it being updated in real time. Pretty awesome tool!)
OOC:
And a reminder for Pageflap: Stay away from windows, son!
Jan 18, 2018 4:37 pm
lenpelletier says:
OOC:
* Wolf 1 runs up to Iman and takes a Readied Action to attack if another wolf attacks Iman. Wolf 3 then runs up to Iman and attacks, triggering wolf 1. They have an abililty called pack tactics that lets them attack with advantage if another ally is within 5 feet of their target.
Since Iman's attack of opportunity is a reaction that interrupts another creature's action, if Iman outright kills the first wolf that came up and held its action, the other wolf wouldn't benefit from pack tactics (although if you just take the first roll from the second wolf, he still hits).

Also, a question: did Iman actually enter his battle rage?

Len

Jan 18, 2018 5:04 pm
I'm assuming Iman did, since he had a bonus action available. Although, probably good to remind everyone to state their abilities.

Yes, Iman can use Polearm Master and his reaction to deal 1d4+3 bludgeoning damage to one of the creatures that enters 10 feet of him. It won't be enough to kill anything as all the monsters this round are above 7 hp, but it should still be used. Just a matter of picking which one :)

And windows are dangerous. You can move after you attack, by the way. You can move a total of 6 squares, which can be split up before AND after your actions.
Jan 18, 2018 5:07 pm
I'll keep that in mind about the windows. By the way, how many spell slots do I have left? I gained one from the short rest after we left the tunnels, but did I gain another from the more recent sort rest too?
Last edited January 18, 2018 5:08 pm

Len

Jan 18, 2018 5:07 pm
McDunno says:
G3rmanicus says:
Also, for movement, would movement across a square diagonally be 5ft?
Short answer: Yes. Len has said he's counting diagonals as 5 feet.

Longer answer: There's an alternative rule that counts every other diagonal as 10 feet. One of the DMs in my RL group uses this rule. It is a pain. But, then, so is he. On especially long moves, you end up having to count squares out several times, everything gets slowed down, and combat becomes a slog. I'm sure a better DM could make it work (and play by post could offer the luxury of time to count squares forever), but I've found that all it does is slow down play and turn combat into a chore.

Although I'm probably a little biased since the RL DM who does this treats D&D like a board game anyway.
I agree with your DM that 5 foot diagonals are unrealistic. But, so are Hit Points.

Len

Jan 18, 2018 5:09 pm
Jacketch says:
I'll keep that in mind about the windows. By the way, how many spell slots do I have left? I gained one from the short rest after we left the tunnels, but did I gain another from the more recent sort rest too?
Good to keep track of those on your character sheet. I'm not actually tracking them for you. You can only use Arcane Recovery once per day, so you wouldn't have gained another back from the second short rest. I'm guessing you were at 2 at the start of this combat.
Jan 18, 2018 5:21 pm
lenpelletier says:
I agree with your DM that 5 foot diagonals are unrealistic. But, so are Hit Points.
Right? When he gave me that "more realistic" nonsense, I looked at him and said, "You know that these duergar we're fighting aren't real, right?" Meanwhile, I'm spending ten minutes counting and recounting diagonals and squares to make absolutely sure that the big bad is within 60 feet of my cleric so I can attack with Spiritual Weapon. He is very much the "DM vs. Player" type. Luckily, we found someone else to DM, and I'm gearing up to run Tomb of Annihilation when he's done. Anything to keep the other guy out of the driver's seat. It was getting to the point that I was ready to quit, realizing that no D&D is better than bad D&D.

Although, ironically, he's the reason I learned the rules for 5e so quickly. I realized I had to because he would twist things every chance he got to stick it to the players. And as a player, I'm convinced he's read through Curse of Strahd, the campaign we're currently running.
Jan 18, 2018 5:25 pm
lenpelletier says:
Yes, Iman can use Polearm Master and his reaction to deal 1d4+3 bludgeoning damage to one of the creatures that enters 10 feet of him. It won't be enough to kill anything as all the monsters this round are above 7 hp, but it should still be used. Just a matter of picking which one :)
Why 1d4+3? the Polearm Master feat says: "While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, or quarterstaff, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter your reach." It doesn't specify that he has to use the bonus action damage die.
Jan 18, 2018 5:42 pm
Jacketch, I use the following coded tally on my character sheet to keep track of Kit's stats. I made one for Pageflap you can copy and paste onto your character sheet if you want. I find it a handy way to keep track of things, and it makes it easy to copy it from your sheet and paste it into a game post if the DM (or anyone) asks what your current stats are. Anyone can use it, just change it to what you need to keep track of. Iman, for example, can use it to track how many rages he has left.

In order for the entire thing to show up and not be formatted for posting, I added a space between the first bracket and the word "color". Just delete that space when you paste it into your character sheet. Keep in mind that the coding will show up in your character sheet, but the formatting won't, and the reverse is true when you post on a game post.

Kit's:

[ color="green"]Total HP - 11 / 11
Hit Dice
d6 - 1 / 1
d8 - 1 / 1
Tides of Chaos
1 / 1
Spell Slots
1st level: 2 / 2
Pact Magic
1st level: 1 / 1[/color]

For Pageflap:

[ color="green"]Total HP - 11 / 11
Hit Dice
d6 - 2 / 2
Spell Slots
1st level: 2 / 3
[/color]


What it will look like when the extra space is taken out (use the "Quote" feature if you want to see the final coding):

Kit's:

Total HP - 11 / 11
Hit Dice
d6 - 1 / 1
d8 - 1 / 1
Tides of Chaos
1 / 1
Spell Slots
1st level: 2 / 2
Pact Magic
1st level: 1 / 1


For Pageflap:

Total HP - 11 / 11
Hit Dice
d6 - 2 / 2
Spell Slots
1st level: 2 / 3
Last edited January 19, 2018 12:48 am
Jan 18, 2018 5:45 pm
McDunno says:
lenpelletier says:
Yes, Iman can use Polearm Master and his reaction to deal 1d4+3 bludgeoning damage to one of the creatures that enters 10 feet of him. It won't be enough to kill anything as all the monsters this round are above 7 hp, but it should still be used. Just a matter of picking which one :)
Why 1d4+3? the Polearm Master feat says: "While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, or quarterstaff, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter your reach." It doesn't specify that he has to use the bonus action damage die.
I agree with the interpretation that you can use the weapon's blade for the opportunity attack.
Jan 18, 2018 6:13 pm
Yes, Iman entered his battle rage. I should have worded it more clearly. The opportunity attack I make will interrupt one of the attacks of the wolf correct?

I believe I missed the opportunity attack, which would mean I did take all that damage and couldn't keep the wolf at bay. Iman is at 3 HP. I will make my next move here shortly.
Last edited January 18, 2018 6:24 pm
Jan 18, 2018 6:23 pm
G3rmanicus says:
Rolls
Attack of Opportunity on W3 - (1d20+5)

( 4 ) + 5 = 9

Damage if hit - (1d10+5)

( 7 ) + 5 = 12
Haha! Welp, I guess it doesn't matter which damage die you use! Good try, though. I thought that might have been it for Iman (all that damage in one round would have insta-killed Kit, Pageflap, or Aegar), but that rage resistance sure comes in handy!
Jan 18, 2018 7:50 pm
Dammit! I should have mentioned before that Torden is more of a fighting cleric than a healing cleric. But I can't just let Iman (nor Pageflap, who is at 6hp, I think) go down, can I now? Still waiting for Aegar to go though.

Len

Jan 19, 2018 12:03 am
Oh yeah, the 1d4+3 attack is the bonus action attack, and the opportunity attack is just a regular attack :) I think I got that mixed up twice in this game so far! Thanks for catching that.
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