Character Creation and Advancement

Sep 15, 2019 7:59 pm
I think windyridge is building a fighter. Let's discuss concepts and make sure we don't play 5 Drizzts

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Sep 15, 2019 8:26 pm
You are correct, if that works for everyone. Jabari Pilis - Human (His name means: Brave, Second Son). He is kind of a strong brute with zero personality. He just like to kill things. That's what I got so far.
Sep 15, 2019 8:38 pm
I'm looking at a Magus, will see where it takes me
Sep 15, 2019 8:49 pm
Here's my er... Jabari's starting wealth:

Rolls

x10 - (5d6)

(54555) = 24

Sep 15, 2019 9:09 pm
I’m going to play an oracle, Seeker archetype (sort of like a rogue/oracle hybrid). Originally built with the ancestor mystery, but I’ll see if there’s a more fitting option for this campaign when I get some time later.
Sep 15, 2019 10:04 pm
I was thinking a Sacred Huntsmaster Inquisitor who has an animal companion and the campaign trait "Trap Finder." The basic concept is that he's a fixer of sorts for the church of Nethys, but he's not very open about his religious leanings. He's a bit of a rogue at heart and uses his skills to get himself into places he doesn't belong, which made him an asset for Nethys.

I can also go with another trait if someone else was wanting to focus on being able to find and disable traps.
Last edited September 15, 2019 11:57 pm
Sep 16, 2019 12:05 am
Starting cash roll and animal companion HD roll
Last edited September 16, 2019 12:08 am

Rolls

Starting cash - (4d6)

(5132) = 11

Hit dice - (1d8)

(2) = 2

Sep 16, 2019 12:15 am
Ninja_Dano says:
I can also go with another trait if someone else was wanting to focus on being able to find and disable traps.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having multiple people who can disarm traps.
Sep 16, 2019 12:41 am
I going with a halfling bard that can do traps. Traits (Tomb Finder, Tomb Raider)

Rolls

Gold to be multipled by 10 - (3d6)

(124) = 7

Sep 16, 2019 2:11 am
Question: Before I get too deep into the character creation process, in this environment of undead, tombs and traps etc, will a fighter be effective enough? I don't have all the supplements on how to specialize him.
Last edited September 16, 2019 2:30 am
Sep 16, 2019 2:57 am
A fighter should a great benefit, especially with a feat like power attack, allowing you to increase damage, will be a strong tool for overcoming damage resistance, which should be expected.
Sep 16, 2019 3:53 am
I think I'm going to stick with the Seeker Oracle, but go with Life mystery and the Inquisitive Archaeologist campaign trait. Is an Azata-blooded aasimar okay, race-wise?
Sep 16, 2019 4:38 am
Azata-blooded looks fine to me
Sep 16, 2019 12:41 pm
What makes the most sense for Jabari the fighter? Great sword or one handed sword and shield or small bow and one handed sword and shield or....something else? Suggestions for my first PF character are welcome. :-) I mean does a bow even make sense in a tomb unless they are really big with nice LOS.
Sep 16, 2019 1:20 pm
I may go with a fire inquisitor of Sarenrae. Possibly a dwarf, not sure JUST yet.
Sep 16, 2019 6:11 pm
Krazzik and Zaggra have been submitted. I'll have a backstory up as soon as I can.

Krazzik is a half-orc sacred huntmaster inquisitor of Nethys with a warcat animal companion named Zaggra. He uses a falchion and likes to raid tombs for artifacts for the church of Nethys.

Once he gets some gold, he'll be investing in a bow and better armor.
Last edited September 16, 2019 6:13 pm
Sep 16, 2019 6:16 pm
I've accepted both characters into the game, but haven't reviewed them yet. I'll get to that when I'm in the zone!
Sep 16, 2019 11:25 pm
I've submitted Jabari. I need help with the skills and a double check on all of it. On this sheet they don't jive with the sheet I used so am a little confused.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746523157_51e88e025e_o.gif
Last edited September 16, 2019 11:26 pm
Sep 16, 2019 11:52 pm
She just needs some background and goods. She doesn't look old or very young. She is known tomb explorer. As a bard she is song and dance.
Sep 17, 2019 12:30 am
I’m assuming there’s no form of feat tax relief in this game? Totally fine, I just need to reorganize some feats.
Sep 17, 2019 12:53 am
That's a good question and suggestion. I'll lift your table from your game and post it here.

Table: Feat Tax Relief

Two-Weapon Fighting
If you take Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, you gain Greater Two-Weapon Fighting for free when you qualify for it.

Dodge
If you take Dodge, immediately gain Mobility for free.

Ranged
If you take Point-Blank Shot, immediately gain Precise Shot for free.

Combat Expertise Maneuvers
If you take one of the following feats, gain the rest for free:
Improved Trip
Improved Disarm
Improved Dirty Trick
Improved Feint
Improved Reposition
Improved Steal

Power Attack Maneuvers
If you take one of the following feats, gain the rest for free:
Improved Bull Rush
Improved Drag
Improved Overrun
Improved Sunder

Unarmed/Grapple
If you take Improved Unarmed Strike, immediately gain Improved Grapple for free if you qualify for it.

These six feats are free for all
Combat Expertise (ignore INT requirement)
Power Attack (ignore STR requirement)
Deadly Aim (ignore DEX requirement)
Weapon Finesse (free for light weapons only)
Agile Maneuvers (if desired)
Martial Mastery (ignore all requirements)
Sep 17, 2019 1:04 am
Can you say wow.... And I forgot to even take my level one feat...
Sep 17, 2019 1:15 am
We'll give it a shot. Things like Weapon Finesse bug me that they're a feat and not automatic - this would be the one thing I like about 5e rather than Pathfinder. The rest of it are mainly feats that people never take in my games because they're not worth it, so rolling them into one makes sense, plus I'd like to see more shenanigans in my games. "I sunder their weapon!" said no one ever (at my table).

If it doesn't work out, we're just one TPK away from a solution. #justkidding

Also, if you've submitted a character, feel free to update them, I haven't checked them over yet.
Sep 17, 2019 1:39 am
She has lots of new abilities (feats). Only 8 feats now. Did some background on the character too. Just need to spend that meager 70gp that I rolled...LOL... Sasha Pimster (Miss Harrison Ford) Tomb Raider extreme. By the way she is on 2'8" and 29# soak and wet.
Sep 17, 2019 8:35 am
I am really looking forward to go into character creation mode tonight.
Class: Magus
Rase.... don't know yet

Rolls

4d6 * 10 gold - (4d6)

(5615) = 17

Sep 18, 2019 2:22 am
Starting Gold: 210g

Rolling a standard Aasimar Inquisitor of Sarenrae, with the Fire domain and an utter hatred of the undead.
Last edited September 18, 2019 2:22 am

Rolls

4d6*10 - (4d6)

(6456) = 21

Sep 18, 2019 3:26 am
How's everybody doing? We almost ready to kick this Half Dead City in the whoosits?
Sep 18, 2019 4:12 am
As soon as my character can get released from the limbo of a dead game so I can submit it, I'll be ready to go!

If it's not fixed by tomorrow afternoon, I'll just copy it over to a new sheet.
Sep 18, 2019 4:37 am
Oh the agony of choice! :)
Worked on my magus last night. It needs some more work, but the general shape is there
Sep 18, 2019 1:31 pm
Krazzik and Zaggra updated for the Feat Tax Relief changes.

By the way, those are awesome. I just sent an e-mail out with them to my in person group and set that up as a new house rule for all my games.
Sep 18, 2019 1:58 pm
Ninja_Dano says:
Krazzik and Zaggra updated for the Feat Tax Relief changes.

By the way, those are awesome. I just sent an e-mail out with them to my in person group and set that up as a new house rule for all my games.
78RPMLife posted those in another game and they're a great house rule.
Sep 18, 2019 2:12 pm
I can’t take credit for them. I got them from Kona (who is no longer on GP), and they were inspired by this page, about feat tax relief in Pathfinder. It’s a pretty interesting article.
Sep 18, 2019 4:44 pm
Character submitted. Avatar picture's on my home computer -- I'll add it later.
Sep 18, 2019 5:29 pm
I think Jabari is ready but please check the skills.
Sep 18, 2019 7:39 pm
Airy Cross is local. She has some djinn in her ancestry (she is a sylph, pending GM approval). She is a Inquisitive Archaeologist, and lives to uncover mysteries, but hate the undead, you might call her a Undead Crusader... and a magus

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d4/dc/48/d4dc48a0d75592941fc6a8aed0549dad.jpg
Last edited September 18, 2019 7:40 pm
Sep 18, 2019 8:43 pm
OOC:
According to the player's guide, we are an existing adventuring group. It is suggested that we have a name for ourselves. So what do we want to call ourselves? My first idea was "The Oathbound." We have sworn oaths to each other, especially in the climate of fierce competition that the lottery in Wati has created. What are your guys ideas and thoughts?
Outwardly, Krazzik is a trapfinder and guide for the deserts of Osirion. This guise has suited him well, as he is secretly an inquisitor of Nethys, always on the lookout for ancient secrets and artifacts that would further his god's aims. He is never without his desert lion companion, Zaggra, who he raised from a mere cub. Zaggra has saved Krazzik from a few unfortunate mishaps, and the two together make a formidable team. Krazzik's abilities and Zaggra's might have made them a valuable asset to the Oathbound.
[ +- ] Krazzik with falchion and bow
[ +- ] A young Zaggra
Last edited September 18, 2019 10:37 pm
Sep 18, 2019 9:06 pm
The named adventuring party trope is no mere railroad, but will have some in game effects. Certainly for the first two books of the adventure path.
Sep 18, 2019 9:20 pm
I like The Oathbound. Has a nice ring to it.
Sep 18, 2019 10:25 pm
I"m easy.. "Oathbound" is cool.
Sep 18, 2019 10:36 pm
Oathbound works for me.
Sep 19, 2019 2:02 am
I'm down with the Oathbound. Likely putting my PCGen sheet into GP tonight or tomorrow. :) Need to square up equipment first.
Sep 19, 2019 2:30 am
Alright. I'll review everyone's characters tomorrow evening and post the opening scene. We can start before we're totally finalized, as there will be some build up before the... Thing with the OMGs, and the oh-noes.
Sep 19, 2019 4:25 am
Cross, is a free spirit and not really into Oathbound, but she likes you guys, so she will fall to peer pressure
Sep 19, 2019 9:37 am
Dramasailor says:
Need to square up equipment first.
check out paizo.com's equipment list. There are kits for the classes. i.e. standart stuff for a Magus to carry.
Sep 19, 2019 1:12 pm
runekyndig says:
Cross, is a free spirit and not really into Oathbound, but she likes you guys, so she will fall to peer pressure
Yeah, Krazzik is usually non-committal about things like that, but though he doesn't give his word lightly, he does for this group and this group alone (plus Nethys).
Sep 19, 2019 1:23 pm
Any thoughts on how you got together? Was it just for this event (widely publicized) and if so who arranged it?

Are you from Wati, or somewhere else?
Sep 19, 2019 2:06 pm
Cross is modelled after Lara Croft tomb raider. She is local to the area, but not necessarily from Wati
Sep 19, 2019 3:43 pm
Krazzik is from parts unknown. His relationship with Nethys has brought him through interesting travels. He came to Osirion maybe a year ago. He probably met some or all of you well before the event and built up that relationship and swore his oath to the group at that time.
Sep 19, 2019 6:58 pm
Avaline is not from around here, but her wanderings have sparked an interest in Ancient Osirion that have brought her to Wati hoping to do some actual hands-on field research, as well as bringing peace to the dead.

As a Life Mystery Seeker Oracle, she's sort of a jack of all trades: oracle-rogue-cleric (she can channel positive energy like a cleric and can deal with traps like a rogue). Being the naturally inquisitive sort, I suspect she would have encountered a number of you, especially Cross since they've both got the Inquisitive Archaeologist trait.
Sep 19, 2019 7:10 pm
78RPMLife says:
Avaline is not from around here, but her wanderings have sparked an interest in Ancient Osirion that have brought her to Wati hoping to do some actual hands-on field research, as well as bringing peace to the dead.

As a Life Mystery Seeker Oracle, she's sort of a jack of all trades: oracle-rogue-cleric (she can channel positive energy like a cleric and can deal with traps like a rogue). Being the naturally inquisitive sort, I suspect she would have encountered a number of you, especially Cross since they've both got the Inquisitive Archaeologist trait.
Deffently. Cross and Avaline know each other and have worked together on multiple occasions

Cross is from a desert city but likes to follow a mystery to its end. Often one mystery is replaced with another, and all of a sudden she is spending all night talking to an orc and his cat.
She is charming and lights going, with a razor-sharp with.
Sep 19, 2019 7:15 pm
Here's a map of Osirion, Wati is at a river confluence to the right lower middle.
[ +- ] Map
Sep 19, 2019 9:55 pm
Cross and Avaline both may have worked with Sasha or heard of her. She is well know for tomb exploring. She is a known Archaeologist and has spent many years in the Osirion doing so. She is sometimes referred as the little one being she is so exceptionally short in stature. Which has been convenient for getting into places others can't.
Sep 20, 2019 6:44 pm
Review of Jabari Pilis, Human Fighter
- attack bonus for falchion is +4 (+3 str +1 base attack bonus)
- don't forget the free feats that I granted, this includes power attack so you get one more
Review of Avaline, Asimar Oracle
- two more skill ranks, I thought there should be 5 - source?
- record hit points as favored class bonus somewhere
- record somewhere your spell slots maybe in the spell section, just add 3/3 for first level
Review of Sasha Pimser, Halfling Bard
- one more skill ranks, I thought there should be 7 - must be favoured class bonus, record that somewhere if you haven't
- Size small short sword does 1d4 damage
Sep 20, 2019 6:54 pm
Quote:

Review of Avaline, Asimar Oracle
- two more skill ranks, I thought there should be 5 - source?
- record hit points as favored class bonus somewhere
- record somewhere your spell slots maybe in the spell section, just add 3/3 for first level
You're absolutely right. I could've sworn oracle was 6 + Int, but now that I look again, it's 4 + Int skill ranks. Fixed.

Spell ranks is actually 5 (3 base + 2 for Charisma 20). Added to sheet.

Favored class bonus is now in notes. I'll track what I take for each level there.
Sep 20, 2019 7:13 pm
Review of Cross, Sylph Magus
- don't forget favoured class bonus, +1 hp or +1 skill point
- record +2 base fort save
- only 1 skill rank at first level in Pathfinder. If you have a rank in a class skill, you gain a +3 bonus to checks, so adjust those
- damage bonus for melee weapons is -1 (Str) even with Weapon Finesse
- damage bonus for ranged weapons is 0, not Dex bonus
Review of Krazzik, Half-Orc Inquisitor
- record +2 base fort save
- add +1 misc to all saves for Sacred Tattoo
- record your chosen skills for favoured class
- a falchion does 2d4 damage rather than 2d6
- Domain - which did you choose? Okay, looks like Destruction as you recorded Destructive Smite as an ability
- you have Fortune's Favoured listed. What is this, is it a feat?
- you should have one feat. Which did you choose?
- Zaggra - I'll need to review this build later
Sep 20, 2019 9:09 pm
Qralloq says:
Review of Cross, Sylph Magus
- don't forget favoured class bonus, +1 hp or +1 skill point
- record +2 base fort save
- only 1 skill rank at first level in Pathfinder. If you have a rank in a class skill, you gain a +3 bonus to checks, so adjust those
- damage bonus for melee weapons is -1 (Str) even with Weapon Finesse
- damage bonus for ranged weapons is 0, not Dex bonus
thx for the feedback. I apparently picked up a wrong description for weapon finesse
Sep 20, 2019 9:27 pm
Submitted Bennekheb, Aasimar Flame Inquisitor of Sarenrae. She is a native of Wati, and harbors a very strong dislike for the undead. She trains, but isn't great with, a scimitar as an homage to Sarenrae. She grew up accustomed to the sands and the heat, with a burnished gold skintone and hair the color of fire-lit amber.
Sep 20, 2019 11:21 pm
OOC:
Review of Sasha Pimser, Halfling Bard
- one more skill ranks, I thought there should be 7 - must be favoured class bonus, record that somewhere if you haven't
- Size small short sword does 1d4 damage


I fixed the weapon damage. LOL. Forgot to make it small damage. The +1 skill point for favored class is listed in the "BASIC" in the feats/abilities area. It is kinda hard to spot there.

I did encumbrance in case your going to use that.
Sep 21, 2019 1:32 am
Added.
My skills are ok?
Sep 21, 2019 1:47 am
Windyridge says:
Added.
My skills are ok?
Yes, you should have five: 2 for fighter, 1 for Int, 1 for human,1 for the favored class bonus., so all good
Sep 21, 2019 1:06 pm
Review of Bennekheb, Asimar Inquistor
- seems like you have one extra skill point spent
- for many skills, you've added an unexplained negative modifier, for example Jump: -7. Not sure what is going on there
So with that, we're on our way!
Sep 21, 2019 5:01 pm
The negative is from encumbrance for being over a light load.

Is the extra point the duplication of knowledge religion? Because inquisitors have a bonus to use knowledge for identifying creatures I duplicated the line. It's still just knowledge religion, however.
Sep 21, 2019 6:04 pm
If that is true it should be a bonus rather than a skill rank
Sep 23, 2019 1:54 pm
Qralloq says:

Review of Krazzik, Half-Orc Inquisitor
- record +2 base fort save
- add +1 misc to all saves for Sacred Tattoo
- record your chosen skills for favoured class
- a falchion does 2d4 damage rather than 2d6
- Domain - which did you choose? Okay, looks like Destruction as you recorded Destructive Smite as an ability
- you have Fortune's Favoured listed. What is this, is it a feat?
- you should have one feat. Which did you choose?
- Zaggra - I'll need to review this build later
- record +2 base fort save Fixed
- add +1 misc to all saves for Sacred Tattoo Fixed
- record your chosen skills for favoured class 8 skill points accounted for (6 for class, +1 for Int, + 1 favored bonus)
- a falchion does 2d4 damage rather than 2d6 Fixed
- Domain - which did you choose? Okay, looks like Destruction as you recorded Destructive Smite as an ability Destruction, but I chose positive energy to reflect the dual nature of Nethys (Creation & Destruction)
- you have Fortune's Favoured listed. What is this, is it a feat? It's a trait, see spoiler below
- you should have one feat. Which did you choose? I took the freebies and adjustments from the Feat Tax post. For my actual one feat, I took Improved Spell Sharing and it is now added to my GP sheet.
- Zaggra - I'll need to review this build later
[ +- ] Fate's Favored
Sep 25, 2019 12:30 am
I missed this earlier but the five four of you that haven't indicated languages known on your character sheet should do so.
Sep 25, 2019 12:41 am
Abyssal, Common, Halfling, Infernal, Undercommon for Sasha. Found in Feat/ability area under Basic.
Last edited September 25, 2019 12:41 am
Sep 25, 2019 1:01 am
Qralloq says:
I missed this earlier but the five of you that haven't indicated languages known on your character sheet should do so.
Updating shortly...
Sep 25, 2019 1:16 am
Hint: One of you should take Osirian, maybe Ancient Osirian as well, if any of you know what is important in old tombs
Sep 25, 2019 1:36 am
OOC:
Could I change out for it. It wasn't on my option list. I went for the devils and demon languages instead.
Sep 25, 2019 1:37 am
Qralloq says:
Hint: One of you should take Osirian, maybe Ancient Osirian as well, if any of you know what is important in old tombs
I had taken both :-)
Sep 25, 2019 1:50 am
GeneCortess says:
OOC:
Could I change out for it. It wasn't on my option list. I went for the devils and demon languages instead.
Absolutely
Sep 25, 2019 1:51 am
From the players guide:

Though many Osirians speak Common, they also speak their own Osiriani tongue. Many educated Osirians also speak Ancient Osiriani, which is similar enough to modern Osiriani that those who speak one or the other often encounter little difficulty, though the accent is different. After hundreds of years of Keleshite rule, the Kelish language grew in usage, and it is still spoken today in some places, but few tombs and ruins contain messages written in this language.
Sep 25, 2019 2:10 am
OOC:
Fixed. Those other two weren't best. Osirian and Ancient Osirian match the character so much better. Dropped the underworld for Kelish as it also matches better. So now she has Ancient Osirian, Common, Halfling, Kelish, Osirian.
Sep 25, 2019 5:25 am
Cross does know Ancient Osirian. I'll correct the language later today
Sep 25, 2019 11:51 am
Krazzik knows common, orc, and gnoll. He doesn't know Osiriani, but might be able to understand some basic phrases (where's the inn, ordering food/drink, yes/no, etc.)

He's not from around these parts.
Sep 25, 2019 7:30 pm
runekyndig says:
Cross does know Ancient Osirian. I'll correct the language later today
Languages: Common and Osiriani ,Ancient Osiriani, Kelish , Auran
Last edited September 25, 2019 7:31 pm
Sep 25, 2019 7:34 pm
Avaline knows common, celestial and ancient Osirian.
Sep 25, 2019 9:38 pm
You people went hard on the Ancient Osirian. (Makes note to replace all Ancient Osirian with some obscure Inner Sea language.)
Sep 25, 2019 9:50 pm
It fit the character, nothing more. :)
Sep 25, 2019 10:14 pm
Here's a little table I made to keep track of some of this stuff:

Party Stats
PC. PaPer AC HP/max FRW Languages
JP: 12... 15 13/13. 511 Common, Dwarven, Osiriani, Ancient Osiriani)
Cr: 10... 17 9/9 .. 340 Common, Osiriani, Ancient Osiriani, Kelish, Auran)
Av: 12... 15 9/9 .. 033 Common, Celestial, Ancient Osirian)
SP: 10... 17 9/9 .. 263 Common, Osirian, Ancient Osirian, Halfling, Kelish)
Kr: 16... 12 9/9 .. 536 Common, orc, and gnoll)
-Z: 14... 16 13/13. 550
Be: 20... 12 10/10. 306 Common, Celestial, Elven)
Sep 26, 2019 1:21 pm
Zaggra is the leading expert in the language of war cat and food. War Cat and Food scholars from around the world write to him all the time. It's all Krazzik can do to sort through the heaps of scrolls and books addressed to his feline friend. :)

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