OOC and Rules Discussion

So two rules are up for discussion -

1.) The use of spheres.
2.) The use of Automatic Bonus Progression. (Players get less loot, but as they level automatically get bonuses that would normally require items. eg Nat Armour, Deflection, Weapon and Armour Enhancements, and stat bonuses)

The latter I am suggesting, as it gives players the chance to use their money gained and item slots on more interesting items rather than the ones the game expects you to have.

People are also free to discuss others things here

Only now saw your invite, sorry. Anyway yeah, I am all for ABP, I can imagine it would make things much easier for you, by lessening the amount of loot you need to put in the game. As for spheres, I'm fine either way, let the other people who join this game decide :)

You know my vote on spheres. LOL

As for ABP - I love it. Less starting gold, which means less time wasted on shopping, and more interesting options when you don't need to waste cash on the Big 6. But it can conflict with spheres just a bit. Armorist in particular gets the short end of the stick, although it's not too bad. Usually not a problem for anyone else, though.

I am OK with any of these options also.

One vote for vanilla got it :P

Jokes aside it's looking like Spheres unless The_Librarian is against them.

Just glanced at Armorist, I see what you mean. It's kind of like with Bladebound Magi and others who get bonuses as class features. At least Armorist does level them a lot faster than the table. There is still the bonus for the other 'tax items' as I call them, but of course you are the one considering playing Armorist so its whether in your opinion the pay off is still worth it. Especially as you know it better than me.

I mean, you invited Yamazaki. That pretty much made it a foregone conclusion that this game would be a Spheres one :p

Well there was a slight chance the other two would be against. At which there would likely be a new slot opening. But I'm happy it seems like it'll work out

Since I'm looking at Bloodbound Armorist, it's not a big issue - I don't loose out in other areas, just weapons and implements I make with the class ability. I can easily acquire those kinds of items separately from those granted by Armorist (likely implements, since they're similar to weapons for ABP's purposes).

Alternatively, If we want to be more complicated, but more customizeable, we could make good use of the Oath system that Spheres has. Instead of ABP's static progression, players can spend oath points how they want. We can easily give out some freebie points (possibly emulated the value of Oath of Offerings, since the gold limits are similar to ABP), and let people do as they wish from there. But again, more stuff to track.

Food for thought on that end - if it's going to be a pain for anyone, I'd vote just to stick with ABP instead.

(Hey - be glad I'm not trying to suggest the Techniques stuff - it's really cool but it's entirely up to GMs, which means more work lol)

i am perfectly flexible and open to learning something new. ABP and Spheres!

Oath System looks cool, and I may look at it for something later, but one reason for ABP this time round is to make things a little easier for me, so will likely stick to ABP for now.

On that note it looks like people are more in favour of ABP, so we will go for it. Which makes your starting wealth 31000gp. Do ask if you have any queries.

If someone is going to start with crafting feats you get an extra 15500 that must be on stuff you've crafted yourself -> you must be able to hit the dc of the crafted item on a take 10. If it seems to fair to everyone

Spheres will be cool.

Since ABP is already in play, any chance the Spheres Oaths subsystem is available?

I blieve the boss did not want to use the Oaths system.

Yeah not this time around, as the reasoning for ABP is I know the system, and saves me some effort with loot.