Call of Cthulhu character sheet is bugged

TheGenerator says:

Something is going on with the CoC char sheet.
The "Save and Exit" button saves, but doesn't exit. It also creates a javascript error.

The skills dropdown arrow doesn't do anything. (This is my first time using the sheet, so I don't know if that was working before)

The dodge value in the combat section does not update. (Might be related to the skill dropdown?)

It still saves and works well enough to use, so this is not very urgent :)

This!

... but I guess also that... meaning...

https://c.tenor.com/TzcZUUSUG7cAAAAC/doomed-star-wars.gif

Last edited June 19, 2022 8:12 pm

Jun 19, 2022 8:17 pm

CESN says:

... but I guess also that... meaning...

Hehe, that's why I added the "not very urgent" :)

Jun 20, 2022 12:22 am

There's also a typo in the Anthropology skill.

Jun 20, 2022 6:27 am

Cheers. Logged.

Jun 22, 2022 11:16 am

As a side-note; it's also bugged in the game forums (underneath the thread)

Not opening at all.

Jun 22, 2022 11:30 am

TheGenerator says:

As a side-note; it's also bugged in the game forums (underneath the thread)

Not opening at all.

That's not a bug. The only built-in sheets we support for integration are:
* Custom
* DnD 5e
* Savage Worlds
* Star Wars

...and the Custom sheet has better integration than DnD 5e.

I haven't written sheet integrations for every system - the goal is to allow Custom to support everything (although it still sucks at Star Wars).

Jun 22, 2022 11:41 am

Ah, I see.

If you'd like, I can try to recreate this sheet as a custom sheet, then you can just forget about it being bugged.
Would that help you out? :)

Jun 22, 2022 11:55 am

Ideally, I think people would be using custom sheets for everything and we'll keep improving their functionality.

If we don't have a custom CoC sheet in the repository then I think creating one would be great.

Jun 22, 2022 12:04 pm

Oh it's confusing that it's listed as a supported sheet option. Maybe when it's recreated as a custom sheet the supported one can be removed?

bowlofspinach

Jun 22, 2022 12:07 pm

That'd be a bigger shift that I think is above Adam's paygrade. I think Custom sheets are turning better and better but only @Keleth can decide whether we want to actually phase the non-custom ones out. I foresee some trouble with that 😅

Jun 22, 2022 12:32 pm

Yeah. I think of the non-custom as deprecated but still supported. Except for Star Wars (and maybe others, dunno) - where the built-in sheets are still preferred.

Although custom sheets have turned out to be much better than I expected or even hoped (I wanted to make indie game custom sheet integration as good as 5e's - it turned out better, so I abandoned 5e's sheets). But they're not quite where I think they should be.

* Finding custom sheets in the repository is still trickier than it needs to be;
* Star Wars dice need supporting;
* Abilities should allow adding/editing/removing single items;
* The hack where abilities are used for multiline text was... unintended;
* Rolls have to be in tables at the moment;
* Styling is... Meh.
* No drop-down support.
Stuff like that.

Once my house is mended, I'll be looking to sort through the community suggestions for improvement.

Jun 22, 2022 12:41 pm

Sounds like a good plan :)

Jun 22, 2022 3:05 pm

Adam says:

If we don't have a custom CoC sheet in the repository then I think creating one would be great.

I didn't see one. I'll try to make work of this sometime this week(end) :)

bowlofspinach

Jun 22, 2022 4:49 pm

Awesome. And it shouldn't take much work to convert it for use in Delta Green as well. Which would be much more handy than the external sheet that the villain Harrigan is making us use

Harrigan

Jun 23, 2022 5:42 am

https://i.giphy.com/media/vghskRXiOFUCkVAp3D/giphy.webp

Last edited June 23, 2022 5:46 am

Jun 29, 2022 8:15 pm

What do you guys think of this one?
Any changes to be made?
It looks better as an actual sheet, I promise. Limited width is a slight issue.

[ +- ] CoC

Create character

Name	Occupation

Characteristics

Stat	Full	Half	1/5	Stat	Full	Half	1/5
STR	64			APP	64
DEX	64			POW	64
INT	64			SIZ	64
CON	64			EDU	64
MOV	7

Stats

Hit Points	Current 0	Max 0
	Major wound
Sanity	Current 0	Max 0
	Temp Insane	Indef Insane
Magic Points	Current 0	Max 0
Luck	0

Skills

Skill	Full	Half	5th	Skill	Full	Half	5th	Skill	Full	Half	5th
Accounting	5%	%	%	First Aid	30%	%	%	Psychoanalysis	1%	%	%
Anthropolgy	1%	%	%	History	5%	%	%	Psychology	10%	%	%
Appraise	5%	%	%	Intimidate	15%	%	%	Ride	5%	%	%
Archaeology	1%	%	%	Jump	20%	%	%	Science	1%	%	%
Art/Craft	5%	%	%	Language ()	1%	%	%		0%	%	%
	0%	%	%		0%	%	%		0%	%	%
Charm	15%	%	%		0%	%	%	Sleight of Hand	10%	%	%
Climb	20%	%	%		0%	%	%	Spot Hidden	25%	%	%
Credit Rating	0%	%	%	Law	5%	%	%	Stealth	20%	%	%
Cthulhu Mythos	0%	%	%	Library Use	20%	%	%	Survival	10%	%	%
Disguise	5%	%	%	Listen	20%	%	%	Swim	20%	%	%
Dodge	99%	%	%	Locksmith	1%	%	%	Throw	20%	%	%
Drive Auto	20%	%	%	Mech Repair	10%	%	%	Track	10%	%	%
Elec Repair	10%	%	%	Medicine	1%	%	%		0%	%	%
Fast Talk	5%	%	%	Natural Wonder	10%	%	%		0%	%	%
Fighting (Brawl)	25%	%	%	Natural World	10%	%	%		0%	%	%
	0%	%	%	Navigate	10%	%	%		0%	%	%
	0%	%	%	Occult	5%	%	%		0%	%	%
Firearms (Handgun)	20%	%	%	Operate Heavy Machine	1%	%	%		0%	%	%
Firearms (Rifle/Shotgun)	25%	%	%	Persuade	10%	%	%		0%	%	%
	0%	%	%	Pilot	1%	%	%		1%	%	%

Weapons

Example
Notes

Reg.	Hard	Extr.	Dmg	Range	Attacks	Ammo	Malf
0	0	0			1

Notes: This is an example

Notes

Reg.	Hard	Extr.	Dmg	Range	Attacks	Ammo	Malf
0	0	0			1

Notes:

Combat

Damage Bonus
Build
Dodge

Items

Example
Notes

This is an example

Notes

Items

Notes

Items

Notes

Background & Notes

Hi! :)

Last edited June 29, 2022 8:15 pm

Jun 30, 2022 12:35 am

TheGenerator says:

What do you guys think of this one?
Any changes to be made?
It looks better as an actual sheet, I promise. Limited width is a slight issue.

Very nice for how quickly you put it together! The only things I'd like to see added is the weapons area fleshed out, maybe one melee and one ranged with rolls, damage, range, ammo, etc. There are probably way too many item slots for a CoC game so that can be shortened up. And maybe follow the character sheet for the background section: scars, phobias, important people, description, etc.

Jun 30, 2022 7:05 am

@nezzeraj
Thanks. Hmm, do you have some kind of screenshot that I could try to replicate for the weapons?
If you click the little triangle on weapons it gives the stats, btw. I'm not sure if you saw that. But there might be a better way to do it.

I'll add the background sections. I did see that, but decided to model it after the embedded GP sheet instead. (I'm not a CoC gamer, so I have no idea what a good layout is)

2 more things I was thinking about. Let me know if these would be useful:
- Adding a roll button for every skill and stat.
- Splitting up the base skill % and added skill % so you only need to fill in the spending points and not the full %.
But for both of those I'd have to make the skills 2 columns instead of 3 to have some more space.

bowlofspinach

Jun 30, 2022 7:12 am