OOC: XP from chapter 6

Jul 8, 2024 11:39 pm
At the end of Chapter 6, every PC receives the following XP, based on our advancement rules and those described in page 56 of the rulebook:

1 - Did we earn a profit, either through trading, scavenging, looting or jobs?
Yes! Even with a single survivor, the mission was accomplished and payment will arrive after we wrap things up.

2 - Did we discover something new and interesting about the universe?
Yes. Zyronis, it's underground regions, nanotechnology, AI and Elders legacy.

3 - Did we overcome a difficult challenge or dangerous adversary?
Yes.
That will leave Hank, Corbin, Mercer and Douklan with a total of 10 XP and Peter with 7 XP.

Peter advances to level 3 and can spend his skill points in this thread. The rest of the crew was already at this level and stays that for another chapter.
Jul 10, 2024 4:45 pm
@htech I will have a quick read of the beginning of chapter 7 and then will post about the leveling up
Jul 11, 2024 2:36 pm
Max hit points: i rolled below my current so just a +1 taking my total to 13
attack bonus: still a 1
saving throws: 12/13/13
Skills i had 1 skill point banked, and gained 3 (one of them being psych only)

Telepathy level 2: i will buy telepathy level 2 expending 3 points

for the time being i will leave the other point banked, i was thinking of getting something in the trading/connect realm but now sure it would be the best move yet.
Psionics

for getting Telepathy to level two i get its core technique:
[ +- ] Telepathy Level 2
as my new psychic techniques i choose Suppress Cognition
[ +- ] Suppress Cognition
maximum Effort: 6
I got a bit confused by one passage on the Players Handbook, on the Foci
Quote:
Finally, the PC might be eligible to pick an additional
level in a focus. At levels 2, 5, 7, and 10 a PC can add
a level to an existing focus or pick up the first level in
a new focus.
Does that mean that since im not in levels 2,5,7 and 10 i cannot pick a new focus, and since my only focus (Psychic Training) is already at level 2 i cannot pick any foci for this level? @htech

I updated my sheet, i would love a quick revision of anyone interested, and a clarification on the foci, anything wrong let me know
Last edited July 14, 2024 9:40 pm

Rolls

max hit points - (3d6+3)

(132) + 3 = 9

Jul 14, 2024 3:50 pm
Friendly reminder for @arthur12320 in case he forgot about this. =D
Jul 14, 2024 5:20 pm
The one feature I wish Gamers plane had was emote responses like FB or discord... Because there are so many posts from you all I want to like, but not clog up the tread with a responce consisting of mostly just that.
Jul 14, 2024 10:11 pm
Unless you have a specific plan for that extra skill point, I'd strongly recommend getting Facile Mind. Currently, you have to commit Effort for the day to use it. With Facile Mind, you only commit Effort for the scene. That means you can use it at will as long as you have the Effort, as you get the Effort back at the end of the scene. And, if you practice for the week, you use it for free. Since I think you have Transmit Thoughts, this means you can be in continuous mental contact when you want to with everyone you have practiced with at will, even if you have no Effort left. And, since you are at Telepathy-2 now, Facile Mind lets you read surface thoughts of anyone in ranges for Effort for scene. Since you have Effort 6, you can ready surface thoughts from up to six people per scene! (Friend or foe.)

Depending on how much you plan on using Telepathy, this is a huge advantage for you.

Also, I thought you had Psychic Training 1 and 2. As such, you should get a second psychic-only skill point. So, you get four skill points, but one must be used for anything psychic, and the other must be used for the specific psychic skill you have training for. Then you also have two other skill points you can use for anything.

And, while I am not htech, I already asked this exact question earlier. You only get a new Focus at levels 2, 5, 7, and 10. That means levels 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 are Focus-free. (This is why, way back in the beginning, I recommend that you get both of you Psionics Training Foci by Level 2.)
Last edited July 14, 2024 10:21 pm
Jul 14, 2024 11:45 pm
Daryen is right. The other issue is in your hit points. I granted +10 flat bonus for the PCs in all levels. Even though it does not scale, its still significant. You rolled a 9 and now have 19 HP because of this.
Jul 15, 2024 6:33 pm
Good points, thanks, I will get Facile mind with my banked point and i have a metapsionics only point banked, my mistake on the Foci on level two, but will try to fix it somewhat in the future, also fixed the hit points
Jul 15, 2024 7:14 pm
To violate my immediately prior point, the one reason you'd think about saving it is because you only get two non-psionic skill points a turn (which is *brutal*). So, if you bank one normal point, you can spend all three non-psionic points next level to get Shoot-2. However, that Facile Mind is *so* useful! Very, very tough choices to make!

(Actually, I don't remember if you said what you took for your first two levels, so I don't remember how you spent your skill points at Level 2.)
Jul 15, 2024 7:24 pm
I gave a quick look back at the thread for chapter 4 and you actually talked about facile mind then, i said i was going to get it this level, so good thing you remembered, also while looking there i saw i was actually planning on getting shoot 2 this level, and now i'm actually second guessing myself about the thelepathy 2, since i've been doing more shooting than psionics....
Jul 15, 2024 7:37 pm
I think I will actually do that, can I still go back on it @htech? I would get shoot 2 using my point that was banked, with the new psionic only point I would get the facile mind, and I would bank the extra metapsionics only point.
Jul 15, 2024 7:40 pm
No problems. This thread is still open, feel free to update your sheet.
Jul 15, 2024 7:48 pm
done, let me know if anything is not as it should thanks for the patience.
Last edited July 15, 2024 7:48 pm
Jul 15, 2024 8:13 pm
Well, do note that now with Facile Mind, you can do as much telepathy as you want. The main problem is that you need Telepathy-2 to be able to read surface thoughts, so your covert operations get to wait another level. :-)

As for as using the transmit thoughts ability you already have, you'll have to "come out" to the crew and hope everyone is cool with that.

Of course, I'm still waiting for Peter to get that Metapsionics-2 ...
Jul 15, 2024 8:32 pm
Again i'm unsure!! Ok, for the last time lol, i think i will go back, i think having the psionics habilities available without "blowing my cover" could increase the amount i could use it, and i actually fell like i was underusing the psionics habilities. Promise next level i will try and be more prepared, but for this one, going back to the original plan: telepathy 2, facile mind, holding on to the extra metapsionic only point, and will try to decide when it would be best to get the shoot 2 and the metapsionics 2, might pick your brain again @daryen.
Jul 15, 2024 8:35 pm
and whenever you want @htech please close the thread, so that i don't go back on my decision a third time LOL
Jul 15, 2024 8:52 pm
As a aside, you should probably figure out what you want to get your skills to eventually. You can get to Telepathy-4, Metapsionics-4, and Shoot-4. But that is virtually ALL you will have. It takes so many skill points to get those three to skill-4 that you will have almost nothing left for anything else.

If you want other skills (besides the two skill-0s that you already have and whatever you can get with the last two Foci), then you will have to decide what you are going to sacrifice to get them. Gonna settle for Shoot-3 or even Shoot-2? Willing to accept one of your psychic abilities tops out at skill-3? Which one? Unfortunately, since it takes all of your skill points for the triple-4, you'll have to start deciding next level what compromises you're gonna be making. Psychics have very tight builds!

I have made two example builds I can share with you, if you want. (I may have already. I don't remember.)

One of them goes for the triple-4s. The ending skills are literally "Shoot-4, StartingSkill1-0, StartingSkill2-0", plus Telepathy and Metapsionics both at 4. The only exception is that the Level 7 and Level 10 Foci are open, and each can give you new skills of your choice at skill-1. So, really, the ending skills can be "Shoot-4, StartingSkill1-0, StartingSkill2-0, Foci7Skill-1, Foci10Skill-1". (The Level 5 Focus is for Gunslinger which is required to get to Shoot-4. Could be Sniper instead. Needs to be something giving those three skill points for Shoot, as you are not getting Shoot-4 without them.)

The other tops Telepathy and Shoot out at 3, keeps Metapsionics at 4 (because it's the Psionic Training subject), but leaves ten skill points open for non-psionic skills, starting at level 5. It also defers getting Telepathy-3 and Metapsionics-4 until very late to preserve as many of those non-psionic skill points as possible. Also, the Level 7 and Level 10 Foci are open, too, meaning there are potentially another six skill points available with judicious Foci selections. (Again, the Level 5 Focus is for Gunslinger or Sniper for those three "free" Shoot skill points. However, this isn't as necessary. You could use the Level 5 Focus for something else, meaning it could give you three different "free" skill points, why you use your normal skill points to get that Shoot-3.)
Jul 15, 2024 9:03 pm
I second that. In this you kind of have to plan out your points. I realized how critical it can be if you want two high scores. And three? You HAVE to plan it out.
Jul 15, 2024 9:18 pm
Quote:
The other tops Telepathy and Shoot out at 3, keeps Metapsionics at 4 (because it's the Psionic Training subject), but leaves ten skill points open for non-psionic skills, starting at level 5. It also defers getting Telepathy-3 and Metapsionics-4 until very late to preserve as many of those non-psionic skill points as possible. Also, the Level 7 and Level 10 Foci are open, too, meaning there are potentially another six skill points available with judicious Foci selections. (Again, the Level 5 Focus is for Gunslinger or Sniper for those three "free" Shoot skill points. However, this isn't as necessary. You could use the Level 5 Focus for something else, meaning it could give you three different "free" skill points, why you use your normal skill points to get that Shoot-3.)
I think that would be the best option for me, let's talk more i will try to adapt it to the decisions i have made already untill level 2-3, see what could still be possible.
Jul 15, 2024 9:28 pm
@htech I will be working on adapting and creating a better long term plan to my character, for the time being, i will try to keep posting in the main thread without many skill checks, but soon as i have it figured out i will post the final plan here and update the sheet. I will be undoing my decisions for level 3 for the time being, and planning from a clean slate from where i was at level 2. Thank you all for the help!
Jul 16, 2024 4:38 pm
Great got a roadmap for my skills that i think will work, thanks @daryen for the help!

Max hit points: 19hp
attack bonus: still a 1
saving throws: 12/13/13
Skills i had 1 skill point banked, and gained 4 (one of them being psych only and one metapsionics only)

Telepathy level 2: i will buy telepathy level 2 expending 3 points

facile mind: i will buy facile mind (telepathy) expending 1 point of my psych only skills

i will leave 1 metapsionics only point banked for next level
Psionics

for getting Telepathy to level two i get its core technique:
[ +- ] Telepathy Level 2
as my new psychic technique i choose Suppress Cognition
[ +- ] Suppress Cognition
i also get the Facile Mind as a Telepathy technique
[ +- ] Facile Mind
maximum Effort: 6
Jul 16, 2024 4:46 pm
If you turn your character public (make the grey book red in the characters screen) I would love to check out his skills and help plan him too.
What are your main focuses/ goals for him skill/ability wise?
Jul 16, 2024 4:52 pm
Just made it public, feel free to take a look and give any suggestions, in the current plan i'm following i would get to telepathy-3 and metapsionics-4 while also getting shoot-2 and leaving space for more options, giving a bit more flexibility to the character. I already have my skills planned for level 4, but have some open slots for level 5 and beyond.
Jul 16, 2024 8:48 pm
I'd be great if everyone made their characters public!

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