I was chatting with bowl and ... this is really a non objective debate. No offence to anyone, I understand and agree with the idea. But, rationalising it...
First it is fantasy so yeah... by definition things don’t have to work as in the real world. We can always find the relationships we’re looking for. I mean I can say orcs are basically African tribes and so it’s racist (though some of those empires
kicked some proper European ass!). But maybe they are germatic tribes. I mean those guys were big and carried axes no? That’s racist as well because... germans. In respect to the fantasy aspect. Is it ok to have movies about slavery and racism? Then why not games? Different media to explore the same concepts. (I think this is what Kalajel meant)
Second, if we want to go there, race is one problem in the big picture. I mean, I would complain about classes. Really? Barbarians? May as well call them savages or smash peoples! Or the fact that there are literally gods wanting to kill each other. I mean, religious intolerance is as bad as racism and the drow are simply on a crusade/jihad. It’s not personal, they just worship a demon. You can’t even argue they are a bunch of crazies making stuff up because She is real. Deep down, they are oppressed people, not evil.
Which, takes me to the next point... why are demons evil? Because they were born in hell? Just because they were unlucky? Well if that is acceptable, then a race created for evil like orcs should be ok. I mean, it’s the same logic no? Where do you draw the line? Demons are not only a group of sentient races... they are wiser and smarter than the average human... on average
Lastly, the race attributes are comparing to the average human. It’s stats. Is saying the average Scandinavian is taller than the average Japanese offensive? If not, why is it saying that a sentient races has, on average, less cognitive capacity than the human average? (Pretty sure no one argues about the orc +2 STR). Some will be smarter, some will be dumber. It’s just that it’s more likely that PCs will find a dumber one. Nothing is actually preventing any player from making a “orc wizard”. I mean, it would just take the GM to not assume optimal and min/max parties and balance the combat no?
OOC:right, just food for thought. You may burn down GP now:D
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