Kaiju Character Discussion

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Aug 19, 2020 2:34 pm
valdattaMadun says:
I was thinking with those two Hinderances maybe Extraction Edge? A flyer, should probably be able to get the heck outta Dodge unless there is some of the setting specific ones you haven't posted yet that would fit better
Yeah, Extraction would be a good idea. It’ll save you from getting attacked when you need to fly out of a fight. I’m going to check for more edges today, but most edges I’ve found are reflected pretty well by racial abilities.
Aug 19, 2020 2:39 pm
ctme2000 says:
Hello everyone!

I started GM'ing Deadlands and 50 Fathoms, using SWADE, last Fall until the pandemic hit, first in person and then through Fantasy Grounds. So pretty familiar with the rules. If you have any questions, or need help updating the rules section, let me know.

As for my character, I was thinking of a Living God, w. Human Approved and maybe Vain Glorious. Cliche as heck, but a giant ape or wolf/King Kong type of Kaiju, ala Rampage, would be up my alley. (And I thought SW Rifts was OP lol).
Sounds good.

Thanks for the offer to help. I figured updating the previous edition’s cheat sheet would be easier than typing everything from scratch. It doesn’t seem like it’ll be too much work so I should be fine.
Aug 19, 2020 2:50 pm
for Edges, I take it we are Novice Kaiju ? Beginner city stompers
Aug 19, 2020 3:00 pm
So question: How do people feel about being allowed access to certain Powers? If you’re new to Savage Worlds, you can read about Powers on p. 147 of the rule book.

In Savage Worlds, Powers are special effects that fill the role of magic spells, psionics, super powers, and more, depending on the setting. For a kaiju game, Powers would represent some of the bizarre innate mutant abilities unique to the kaiju as seen in many of the tokusatsu films. To gain Powers, you need to have a type of Edge called an "Arcane Background." There are several varieties of Arcane Background, such as Arcane Background (Magic), Arcane Background Psionics), Arcane Background (Miracles), etc. The setting determines what is available. The only Arcane Background that would be available to kaiju is Arcane Background (Gifted). Purchasing the Power racial ability provides the necessary Edge and one Power. Note that unlike racial abilities, Powers cost "power points" to use and require activation rolls.

So what do people think? Were I to allow it, I’d be very restrictive about Power choices, mainly because I don’t want people making kaiju sorcerers. While certain Powers could potentially fit well into a kaiju game, some of them would be inappropriate. I don’t want kaiju that can summon demons or teleport, for instance. Consequently, I’d look at each Power on a case by case basis.
Aug 19, 2020 3:01 pm
Dr_B says:
for Edges, I take it we are Novice Kaiju ? Beginner city stompers
Yep, you’re all Novice rank at the moment.
Aug 19, 2020 3:01 pm
here is my first initial draft. Not sure if I did the derived stats correctly

Taclydus, The giant Pterodactyl
[ +- ] Racial Attributes
[ +- ] Hinderances
[ +- ] Attributes
[ +- ] Skills
[ +- ] Derived Stats
[ +- ] Edges
Aug 19, 2020 3:23 pm
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So what do people think? Were I to allow it, I’d be very restrictive about Power choices
I'm cool with that idea. You could even link it to the MUTATION edge, powers can appear progressively as mutations of the main species
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Aug 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Shaquille_Oatmeal_ says:
I have no issue with you taking a minor form of the Water Dependency Hindrance if you want to be able to leave the water for brief periods. That's fine with me.

As for Powers, I'd need to think about that. All of these kaiju rules were taken from a PDF that I own, and the PDF says to prohibit kaiju from taking Arcane Backgrounds or Powers. That said, I'm not against it in theory. Tokusatsu films show kaiju using all sorts of ridiculous powers. For instance, Godzilla apparently could fly, had telepathy, and could magnetize himself. So I might be open to certain powers being available to players if they purchase the Power racial ability. But I want to make sure the kaiju don't become sorcerers, either. Let me get back to you about it.
Edit: oops, missed a few posts. Lemme read on them. XD
Edit2: done. And I do think Powers can be fun.

Gotcha!

And about Powers, I'm not sure I want it as a Power anymore. The book Powers (Mind Link/Mind Reading) don't really fit what I was trying to do, and I don't want to overcomplicate this. XD
Maybe I can actually have it as a Language skill? I was going to take Fully Sapient, but then realized that Language skill doesn't really work for kaiju communication (what language would they even know? English? Japanese?). It might be a skill check for successful sending of a mental image?

Also, does anyone know if there's a Power/Edge/Ability that can simulate bioluminescence? We probably aren't going to fight in the darkness, but I wanna commit to being a squid. :P
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Aug 19, 2020 3:28 pm
here is a more refined PANGHOL
[ +- ] PANGHOL stats
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Aug 19, 2020 4:44 pm
One squid that wants to be bioluminescence and a pangdolin that can't stand neon lights....SYNERGY nothing could go wrong :)

Also, I just did some math, Flight at pace 48 means covering over half a mile...so very fast.
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Aug 19, 2020 4:56 pm
lol ! loving the characters, kaiju fellows!

@valdattaMadun : for Toughness, put the total Toughness outside the brackets, then put in brackets what portion of that total is added by Armor.
For example, Panghol has Toughness 7 plus 30 points of armor (Racial ability), so his toughness is: 37(30)

@FlyingSucculent: I reckon bioluminescence can be just part of your description, not granted by a power or edge? GM call, of course.
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Aug 19, 2020 5:49 pm
valdattaMadun says:
One squid that wants to be bioluminescence and a pangdolin that can't stand neon lights....SYNERGY nothing could go wrong :)
...oops. To be fair, biolumenescence is usually softer on the eyes than neon? XD
But yeah, I figured I'll just leave it as flavor text, it's unlikely that it will ever come into play. I just wanna be glowing.

Anyway, I strayed a bit from initial concept, but here's what I have! A friendly squid that wants to hug things to figure out as they work. Squishy, will probably get chewed in melee, but can paralyze things and spit ink.
(I left telepathy as Language for now until our GM can say if that's fine. If not, I'll switch it for Healing, probably?)
[ +- ] Straj
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Aug 19, 2020 7:07 pm
FlyingSucculent says:
Also, does anyone know if there's a Power/Edge/Ability that can simulate bioluminescence? We probably aren't going to fight in the darkness, but I wanna commit to being a squid. :P
The easiest thing to do would be to purchase the Low Light Vision racial ability and describe it as bioluminescence. Savage Worlds strongy encourages players to rename traits or describe them in ways that suit the character.

As far as telepathy, if you’re simply using it to project images or feelings at others for basic communication purposes, then that’s just flavor and you don’t need to purchase anything. If the telepathy allowed you to read minds or do something with a mechanical benefit, then you’d need to buy it.
Aug 19, 2020 7:48 pm
valdattaMadun says:
here is my first initial draft. Not sure if I did the derived stats correctly

Taclydus, The giant Pterodactyl
[ +- ] Racial Attributes
[ +- ] Hinderances
[ +- ] Attributes
[ +- ] Skills
[ +- ] Derived Stats
[ +- ] Edges
Looks good so far! Yeah, that flying Pace is nuts; 960 yards/meters per round (or roughly 327 mph/526.7 kph). Rodan or Mothra could also go really fast.

Size and Scale are explained on p. 106 of the rule book. There’s also a Size table on p. 179 that gives the rough measurements for your Size value. I’ll probably post that table in one of the threads.

You add your Size and Armor to your Toughness. All kaiju, by default, have Armor 30 and Size 16. This means that, unless your character selects Size reductions, each kaiju begins with a minimum of +46 to Toughness.

For Taclydus, you took a -1 Size reduction, but you also purchased +4 Toughness, so your total Toughness should be 56 (30).

That’s 2 + 5 (half of Vigor d10) + 16 + 30 + 4 - 1 = 56.

Someone feel free to double check that.

This is why most human weapons can’t do much to kaiju. :)
Aug 19, 2020 7:58 pm
Dr_B says:
here is a more refined PANGHOL
[ +- ] PANGHOL stats
Thank you, Mr. B. I gave it a cursory glance and it looks good. I’ll take a closer look at Panghol tonight.
Aug 19, 2020 7:59 pm
Ok. That makes sense. I think it would actually be 60 (34) since I also got put plus 4 in armor for racial abilities
Aug 19, 2020 8:03 pm
Oh, I got the Toughness wrong on my character, then. Will amend!
Aug 19, 2020 8:04 pm
valdattaMadun says:
Ok. That makes sense. I think it would actually be 60 (34) since I also got put plus 4 in armor for racial abilities
Oops missed that. Then yes, you’re correct. It’s 60 (34).

How many racial ability points did you spend on Armor?
Aug 19, 2020 8:28 pm
Shaquille_Oatmeal_ says:

The easiest thing to do would be to purchase the Low Light Vision racial ability and describe it as bioluminescence. Savage Worlds strongy encourages players to rename traits or describe them in ways that suit the character.
I think I'll keep it as flavor only, since Low Light Vision doesn't quite fit. :D
Shaquille_Oatmeal_ says:
As far as telepathy, if you’re simply using it to project images or feelings at others for basic communication purposes, then that’s just flavor and you don’t need to purchase anything. If the telepathy allowed you to read minds or do something with a mechanical benefit, then you’d need to buy it.
Neat! I'll upgrade some other skill then.
Shaquille_Oatmeal_ says:
You add your Size and Armor to your Toughness.
Oh, I missed the size penalty. So for me with 13 Size and -1 Frail, Toughness will be 49(30), correct?
Aug 19, 2020 8:56 pm
FlyingSucculent says:

Shaquille_Oatmeal_ says:
You add your Size and Armor to your Toughness.
Oh, I missed the size penalty. So for me with 13 Size and -1 Frail, Toughness will be 49(30), correct?
Yes, correct.

Thanks for posting the character. I’ll take a close look at him tonight.
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