[OOC]Player Chat

So begins the ramblings and prayers of the players.

Thanx. Ninja sounds so good.

Question: if your Ninja/Monk... do you actually get the plus wisdom bonus twice?

No, they do not stack. That is very clear in the rules for the ninja class.

Do you know how a note works?

But you did see the note for you, correct?

Yes I did see the note for me.

Howdy good folks, thanks for the add - is this where we get our shurikens sharpened?

Would this be acceptable?
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Simple Variant: Comes from the Unearthed Arcana SRD

A ranger might forgo training in weapon combat in exchange for the ability to take animal form and move swiftly through the woodlands.

Gain
Wild shape (as druid; Small or Medium animals only), fast movement (as barbarian).

Lose
Combat style, improved combat style, combat style mastery.
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Hello there everyone. Excited to be a god awful sneaky bastard with all of you.

howdy Joms - likewise. My shurikens are your shurikens.

On another note, wanted to thank the GM for guiding me through the character creation process with great patience! Been playing since the 90s , but believe it or not, never touched D&D all these years.

Ok I've made a parkour build ninja(fighter dungeon crasher). Not exactly sneaky but the outdoor man doesn't really need to sneak so much as remain undetected.

What kinda builds are we all making?

slowly making my way through the creation of a female performer/assassin, focused on ranged attacks and poisons.

I'm fine with that alternate power substitution. Oddly, I wasn't being notified of these posts. Sorry about the delay in responding.

How about this for a race for my ninja? Drow are level 2 offset, but the lesser version is level 0 offset.
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Lesser Versions

As an alternative to the use of negative level adjustments to offset racial level adjustments at the lowest character levels, this variant offers different versions of powerful races that aren't as powerful. A "lesser drow," for example, doesn't have all the traits and abilities of the drow described elsewhere in this chapter, but she can be played as a 1st-level character right alongside characters of other, more standard races. Since such characters never have to worry about level adjustments, they are sometimes more enjoyable to play than a character with a negative level adjustment, even if they lack some exciting features of the race.

If you use these lesser racial versions in your campaign, you should use them across the board -- for NPCs as well as player characters. Thus, a party that includes a lesser drow should never encounter drow from the Monster Manual in your game. Instead, all the drow in your campaign should be lesser drow. Of course, nobody calls them "lesser drow," since all drow have the same racial characteristics in the game.

Lesser Drow: Lesser drow have the following racial traits.

Racial Abilities: These traits are in addition to the standard elf abilities in the Player's Handbook, except where noted.

+2 Dexterity, -2 Constitution: The lesser drow have ruthlessly selected for agility at the expense of hardiness over countless generations. These adjustments replace the ability adjustments given for elves in the Player's Handbook.

Darkvision: Lesser drow can see in the dark up to 60 feet. Darkvision is black and white only, but it is otherwise like normal sight, and lesser drow can function just fine with no light at all. This ability replaces the low-light vision noted for elves in the Player's Handbook.

Weapon Proficiency: Lesser drow are automatically proficient with the hand crossbow, rapier, and short sword. These proficiencies replace those of standard elves.

+2 racial bonus on Will saves against spells and spell-like effects.

Spell-Like Abilities: A lesser drow with a Charisma score of at least 10 has the following spell-like abilities: 1/day -- dancing lights, daze, touch of fatigue. Caster level equals the lesser drow's class levels.

Light Blindness: Abrupt exposure to bright light (such as sunlight or a daylight spell) blinds lesser drow for 1 round. On subsequent rounds, they are dazzled as long as they remain in the affected area.

Favored Class: Wizard (male) or cleric (female). This trait replaces the favored class entry for elves in the Player's Handbook.
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The spell-like abilities seem to make it better than other races. I generally hesitate to allow for drow. Is there a reason you would like to play one?

Just thought a drow Ninja would be neat. Lesser Ninja still has the light problem.

In character generation, I have three goals. One is that players should be able to play what they want to play. Two is that the choice will not make my job as a DM more difficult than it would need to be. Three is that the choice will not interfere with the enjoyment game by other players. In that light, here's how I see a drow ninja may impact the game.

One, it is good that you think a drow ninja would be "neat".

Two, a drow's primary disadvantages are their sensitivity to light (as you pointed out) and social stigma. In a ninja game, I would imagine that the light sensitivity issue is going to be less of an issue than normal; ninjas are, after all, operatives in the shadow in often a quite literal sense. As for social stigma, being a race has the label of being evil will interfere with the ability to assume certain roles, such as disguising the group as one that's harmless. This would detract from options for the player group, but I suppose if your drow was a master of disguise, then this could be mitigated. Being a drow, therefore, is a negative mark.

Three, I can't really speak to it, as I don't know how others feel, although a drow's social status may impact how the group may operate. I guess I will let this be a tie breaker and ask the other players to weigh in to see if they care.

I think I'm done with my character.