OOC and Questions

Dec 5, 2021 7:16 pm
Anything goes here, but we should first talk about safety tools. I promise no torture (including to animals) or child harming to be directly described. Any sexuality will occur through veils, implied but not explicit. Any other touch points let me know.
Dec 5, 2021 11:29 pm
That covers most all of my squicks. Maybe add in no excessive animal cruelty? Figured that would be covered under torture, but just as a heads up.
Dec 18, 2021 2:50 pm
The woman in the sack has a glowing golden question mark above her head, hahaha.
Dec 21, 2021 2:25 pm
OOC:
Is whoever is going to fetch Areen in this situation telling her who they've got down there?
Dec 21, 2021 2:47 pm
I assume we can skip to Areen knowing the basics, no need to see us explaining in character and type all that again. :)

I left it up to Data to decide which jobs they do and which they leave for Camus, so you two want to have a private chat on your way here, that works out.
Dec 21, 2021 3:02 pm
OOC:
Yeah, I would assume she does know the person, which is why I'm asking. As an active part of the rebellion she wouldn't trust this person even if everyone else decided it was fine. She's got no way to prove her story and is, by her own account, a master manipulator. Whether Areen knows what's waiting in the cargo hold would change the reaction a bit
Dec 24, 2021 9:39 am
Does Adil need to do anything about the shouty Dante above? If not I am waiting for Camus and for the destination.

As Adil suggested, if we can stop off someplace (an island?) soon, we can pretend to pick up the passenger there, and avoid having the whole 'why did the captain not tell us' debacle with everyone else.
Dec 24, 2021 1:43 pm
That's up to Adil. He's ceded control of the ship to Dante, who is likely preparing the ship rigging for the increased wind.
Dec 29, 2021 1:32 am
In case people are waiting for me. Adil does not want to be in charge (the other characters will have to force/persuade them), so they would not leave what they are doing to go up and argue with Dante absent an obvious danger.

Adil is waiting for Camus to return with what we need to disguise Ceebee and to know where we are going. Their plan is to appear to 'pick Ceebee up at our next stop' (island), as though it was normal business and planned.
Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
I assume "more than a week ago" means 'more than a week away'?

Has Ceebee told us where she is needing to go? Has she told us what her timeframe is?

So Dante is ignoring the course set by the navigator? Do the rest of the crew know that? Do we think they would care about not going to the 'the captain's grave'? Was our planned course compatible with Ceebee's destination?

Does Dante's plan-of-action prevent us from 'picking up a passenger along the way'? If we then say she is offering payment (even in the form of 'valuables we can scrounge'), would Dante oppose that?

Adil would have a better idea about the answers to these questions than I do.
Dec 29, 2021 10:16 pm
Also, just to be clear: Are we assuming (OOC) that we are going to help Ceebee? Is this decided and we are just getting the PCs to the point of accepting it, or is it still possible we might not agree to take on her mission?
Dec 29, 2021 10:25 pm
From my perspective, you can decide to do what you want. Player agency is key.
Dec 29, 2021 10:28 pm
I assume we are taking the mission and it is just the PCs who need to decide.

If other players feel differently that is an OOC discussion not a thing we can work out in character.
Dec 30, 2021 7:21 am
OOC:
Areen will do what is asked of her but she won't like it. Though she's currently deep below deck and unaware of Dant's takeover
Dec 30, 2021 9:03 am
OOC:
OOC I don't mind going on the mission, but Ceebee hasn't really given Cordell an incentive to do so IC.

At the moment there's nothing to corroborate her story, and her appearance has put a lot of pressure on the character relationship between the crew and the late-captain. I think part of the problem might be that we don't have a solid idea of who the captain was? Cordell is a pretty straightforward person, who respects honesty, and appreciates the gravity of being responsible for so many lives, even as he struggles with it. So, he's at a weird point where his choices are to either think the captain was keeping secrets and potentially wasn't who he thought he was, or CB isn't telling the whole story - and that's definitely leaning toward the latter. Unless the captain was just a secretive person? But, I've been playing this wrong if that's the case.

There's not currently any immediacy to the mission at the moment. Cordell is putting the captain's remains into stasis, so whether they bury him now or later doesn't make much of a difference, and CB didn't know how long she was under (nor seemed particularly worried about it, considering she thought it could have been upwards of a year and it's only been a little over a month), so it doesn't seem like her mission is time-sensitive or that the technology is going to give out anytime soon.

Cordell isn't FOR Dante being the leader, but he's not outright against it yet either - particularly if Adil passed the buck, since that's just the order of succession. Dante is skeevy, but hasn't done anything wrong, and hasn't spoken to Cordell yet.

Cordell is against killing CB - he's against killing anyone really, so he'd not do anything to endanger her, and will do his best to prevent harm coming to her. But, getting a weapon against the Empire, or scavenging loot, aren't reasons that would intrigue the doctor into going on that mission, and are actually points against it.

OOC I like the plot hook as written, but I think I might need a different character to be able to take it.
Dec 30, 2021 9:13 am
Data: Does any of the captain's history on my sheet help? You all should be able to see it. (Though, I can not see any of your sheets).

You are welcome to have Cordell know any of the bits that are not common knowledge if need be. Does Cordell's bond with the captain extend to Adil? Would you be happy to have Cordell trust Adil enough to go along with this mission (if they decide it is 'right', or 'what the captain wanted')?

I would just drop the quest (kick her out or take her to trial, or whatever) rather than replace the Cordell if things don't fit.
Dec 30, 2021 9:57 am
OOC:
@vagueGM you mean what's in the 'Notes' section?
I'm not sure if it helps specifically, but I do think Cordell would be more understanding of what the captain was doing if he knew. Honestly, that's something that can come up in the RP though. It definitely could be something Adil just talks to the group about, because right now they're all kind of separate in their reactions to what's happened, and they haven't really had time to process anything (I think Cordell just brought the captain down from the deck, so he's been dead a few hours or less at this point).

Cordell is predisposed to trusting Adil, but as long as Adil doesn't want to take the leader position, Cordell isn't in any position to expect that of them and won't force it on them. Doing things in half-measures and being dishonest just rubs him the wrong way. This is where I thought the internal tension might become an issue with a power vacuum where there isn't a solid dichotomy of right-and-wrong.

Cordell's motivations are typical doctor ones - he wants to keep the crew safe, he wants to treat and cure injured and sick people (of all loyalties and backgrounds), he wants to expand his knowledge of medicine to help with the above. On a more personal note, he'd want to confront whoever in the Empire killed his mother, but that may never come up.

However, a mission that puts the crew in danger simply to get a 'tool' that will re-start a war is vastly against his morals - it would have to be something more immediate, and harmful to people, to get Cordell to agree that it's the right thing to do. He'd even be willing to go for it (albeit maybe separately from the bulk of the crew?) if it was just CB who needed care. Initially, I thought she might have been in stasis to stop an illness or injury that was killing her, and the mission was to save her specifically - Cordell would be willing to help with that even if he never trusts her - but getting a tool to fight the empire after the war's already over and lost is antithetical to his feelings as a doctor. At the moment it just sounds like the Butcher is still determined to sacrifice more lives for her (lost) cause.
Dec 30, 2021 10:17 am
Agreed.

Adil is more interested in the prospect of profit than in a weapon. I assume we are 'for profit' ship, that we take on jobs for pay, so this should not be very different to that and should not be something we find distasteful. If this is not why we sail then why do we?

If we don't agree to take on Ceebee's job (for the payment not because we agree with her mission) then we need to get done with her and move on to hook number two. But the GM will need to know what sort of hooks we will take. I just assumed we would want to take the offers we are given (for the game's sake), but don't have any strong feelings about it.

Data: We spoke near the beginning of character creation [ref ref] about Corell and Adil having a closish relationship, is that still a thing or did you transfer that to the late captain?
Dec 30, 2021 1:27 pm
The way I see it is we don't know what we don't know because the captain didn't tell us. So the info we have is just what Celia told us.

My character made his choice known but he won't buck the majority. I think part of the fun and tension is not knowing the details. Poor timing for the captain to die on us!
Dec 30, 2021 8:42 pm
Windyridge says:
The way I see it is we don't know what we don't know because the captain didn't tell us. So the info we have is just what Celia told us.
True. We don't have any way of knowing what the captain planned, that is part of the situation.
With regard to 'what Celia told us': Did we get answers to my questions and I missed it? Not sure what our next step is without knowing.
Windyridge says:
My character made his choice known...
Did you? Could you reiterate them here for us? It was the question in your post that prompted the OOC question of if we were taking the job.
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