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May 12, 2022 11:33 am
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May 12, 2022 9:20 pm
Bitbam says:
(in RP)OOC:
Has Orset ever experienced something like this underground, should I make a move?At least, for for the first one, I think 'no'. It does sorta depend on what you mean by 'like this'. What sort of mining did you do? You may have uncounted caves filled with crystals, and may have some clue about what such things might be worth on the open market, but all the rest is completely alien to you.
May 12, 2022 9:53 pm
Are there any broken crystals around where we are? Maybe we broke some when getting inside, or because of the explosion earlier?
May 12, 2022 10:41 pm
I think I misread the post where it was said that Asha's axe was glowing. I thought she also knew it.
Was it ok for me to assume that Albert noticed at some point?
Was it ok for me to assume that Albert noticed at some point?
May 12, 2022 10:43 pm
TheGenerator says:
I think I misread the post where it was said that Asha's axe was glowing. I thought she also knew it.Was it ok for me to assume that Albert noticed at some point?
'Someone' established that the glow is not visible in the crystal light, so it may be too late... for now. :)
May 13, 2022 7:37 am
vagueGM says:
'Someone' established that the glow is not visible in the crystal lightMay 14, 2022 4:51 am
Hey all, just graduated today and have family in town for the weekend. So things are a bit busy but I’ll get a meaningful reply by the end of the weekend.
May 14, 2022 11:35 am
Congratulations and thanks for letting us know.
We will work around your character in the meantime.
We will work around your character in the meantime.
May 14, 2022 11:39 am
Asha's opinion is not the opinion of the GM. Break them if you want.
Though I am also not saying that that is a good idea either. :)
Though I am also not saying that that is a good idea either. :)
May 14, 2022 2:15 pm
We'll see what happens :)
So far, it looks like more people want to not break them.
So far, it looks like more people want to not break them.
May 14, 2022 2:18 pm
TheGenerator says:
So far, it looks like more people want to not break them.May 15, 2022 3:11 am
Honestly, TheGenerator I am fine with crystals breaking. I just thought it was a good moment for Deoring to act fresh faced and in awe of the surroundings.
May 15, 2022 6:28 am
TrailHead says:
Honestly, TheGenerator I am fine with crystals breaking. I just thought it was a good moment for Deoring to act fresh faced and in awe of the surroundings.If the others don't want to break it, Albert isn't going to be a jerk about it. But I have a feeling they're going to break at some point anyway. 😅
May 15, 2022 8:11 pm
vagueGM says:
Bitbam says:
(in RP)OOC:
Has Orset ever experienced something like this underground, should I make a move?At least, for for the first one, I think 'no'. It does sorta depend on what you mean by 'like this'. What sort of mining did you do? You may have uncounted caves filled with crystals, and may have some clue about what such things might be worth on the open market, but all the rest is completely alien to you.
Thank you for the congratulations everyone!
May 15, 2022 8:17 pm
Bitbam says:
... bout the glowing crystals and if they are something known to exist in the circles of people that go under the earth, or if it is something very rare or odd.I trust my answer was sufficient? Else keep asking questions. :)
May 16, 2022 5:25 pm
Logically, Orset would want to not wander off too far and stay within sight of the others, but I could also see him getting caught up and confused with the light and crystals playing tricks on his senses. I can leave the results up to you -- DoF maybe?
May 16, 2022 5:29 pm
Does talk of victuals not bring him back? If we are making camp, then do want to separate him? Let's not leave up to fate what we don't want to deal with.
May 16, 2022 5:32 pm
Yes, hearing that before getting too far would bring him back. :)
How would Orset's supplies be at this point? Is it up to me or is there a narrative bit before I started playing that would inform that?
How would Orset's supplies be at this point? Is it up to me or is there a narrative bit before I started playing that would inform that?
May 16, 2022 5:44 pm
Bitbam says:
How would Orset's supplies be at this point? Is it up to me ...This also decides how much we, the players, care about such things.
Bitbam says:
... is there a narrative bit before I started playing that would inform that ...If you have water you are probably thirsty, if you are not thirsty you probably drank all your water, of you are not thirsty and have water you carried a lot --tell us why-- and may be tired.
Feel free to roll dice for any of these two or three axis if you don't want to decide.
May 17, 2022 1:42 pm
Albert: Healing is risky, roll for it.
May 17, 2022 2:55 pm
vagueGM says:
Albert: Healing is risky, roll for it.Added my roll (13)
May 17, 2022 3:17 pm
What extra benefit do we want to take for the 12+? A simple exrta die on the heal roll? I don't think removing the 'curse' can happen from that, but we could take a step towards it.
May 17, 2022 4:50 pm
vagueGM says:
What extra benefit do we want to take for the 12+? A simple exrta die on the heal roll? I don't think removing the 'curse' can happen from that, but we could take a step towards it.Alternatively, could the heal make all weapons glow brighter to convince Asha?
May 17, 2022 4:53 pm
TheGenerator says:
Alternatively, could the heal make all weapons glow brighter to convince Asha?There will be chances to convince her later when weapons are relevant again.
May 17, 2022 5:23 pm
TheGenerator says:
Let's go with the extra die@Airshark: If you are happy with that, describe it and roll it and describe it. You can use `2d6h1` in the dice roller code.
If you get less than 2, you can decide to keep the current 2 due to Albert's expert ministrations meaning 'it can't get worse'.
May 18, 2022 5:41 am
vagueGM says:
TheGenerator says:
Let's go with the extra die@Airshark: If you are happy with that, describe it and roll it and describe it. You can use `2d6h1` in the dice roller code.
If you get less than 2, you can decide to keep the current 2 due to Albert's expert ministrations meaning 'it can't get worse'.
May 18, 2022 6:54 am
Airshark says:
Out of curiosity: what does the h stand for in 2d6h1 ?Edit: found the documentation here.
Last edited May 18, 2022 7:18 am
May 18, 2022 9:14 pm
TheGenerator says:
Airshark says:
Out of curiosity: what does the h stand for in 2d6h1 ?Edit: found the documentation here.
May 20, 2022 6:29 pm
TheGenerator says:
(in RP)... If there are no mushrooms here, we can use torches again.And no signs of any life at all, no moss, no mushrooms, nothing.
May 20, 2022 6:31 pm
Albert doesn't have any torches, but to the other players:
vagueGM says:
Go for it.May 20, 2022 6:34 pm
TheGenerator says:
Albert doesn't have any torches, but to the other playersMay 21, 2022 3:20 am
Deoring started with one set of four torches, but agreed he would only have a couple left.
May 21, 2022 4:05 am
I am not overly interested in counting and tracking such things. I figure we treat them as narrative and only worry about running out when it is germane to the story?
May 21, 2022 8:26 pm
The players can decide what they want to do and we can arrange to do it. The NPCs have no real opinion (nor say).
You are all tired and could definitely sleep. Sleeping will mean you are sharp and aware, not sleeping may mean you miss obvious things and make mistakes, or react subliminally due to tiredness.
Time taken to sleep will probably leave you more hungry and thirsty, though. And I don't promise there will be any water down here.
Sleeping without a good meal may or may not remove Roald's performance issues, or may just change how much it comes up in the fiction.
What do you want to do?
You are all tired and could definitely sleep. Sleeping will mean you are sharp and aware, not sleeping may mean you miss obvious things and make mistakes, or react subliminally due to tiredness.
Time taken to sleep will probably leave you more hungry and thirsty, though. And I don't promise there will be any water down here.
Sleeping without a good meal may or may not remove Roald's performance issues, or may just change how much it comes up in the fiction.
What do you want to do?
May 22, 2022 7:43 am
Aww, poor deoring.
I think I'd go for a 'short rest' to use D&D terms and find a better place, hopefully with water, further down the cave.
But I'm happy to follow the majority vote :)
I think I'd go for a 'short rest' to use D&D terms and find a better place, hopefully with water, further down the cave.
But I'm happy to follow the majority vote :)
May 24, 2022 7:08 pm
@Airshark: How hard does Roald fight the sleep? Everyone else is sleeping in no time, do you constantly wake them or go with the flow?
May 25, 2022 7:11 pm
Maybe we can just use the fate die to see if Roald falls asleep?
Last edited May 25, 2022 7:12 pm
May 25, 2022 8:15 pm
Yes. The invigorating effect of Albert's healing is wearing off. If it's ok for you I'll roll for it.
But I'm not sure what to roll
But I'm not sure what to roll
May 25, 2022 9:23 pm
Airshark says:
... But I'm not sure what to rollHow do you try to stay awake? If you just power through, maybe you roll +CON, if you rely on willpower or personal discipline maybe +WIS or +CHA?
Do you go around kicking the others awake every time you hear them snoring? Probably no roll needed (or maybe +DEX to dodge their hurled invectives:).
Or do you just follow the trend set by the other players and assume the Athletics-sapping fatigue is too much and accept your fate?
May 26, 2022 10:41 am
@Airshark: Are you rolling? Or have you nodded off as well?
May 26, 2022 2:41 pm
Airshark says:
Oh man. I guess I was asleep when I read your post above. Sorry.Rolls
Die of Fate - (1d6)
(1) = 1
May 26, 2022 7:36 pm
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
Oh man. I guess I was asleep when I read your post above. Sorry.May 28, 2022 2:05 pm
vagueGM says:
The cave shape is hard to map out, all the reflecting surfaces regularly make it seem there is a corridor which then ends with your nose pressed against a sudden image of yourself.What do you do? How do you decide on direction, or try to keep to it once you do?
May 29, 2022 12:28 am
Did I over-complicate things again? :(
Maybe just explore a bit? You are looking for Asha, water, the big bad, and at this cave. So there is plenty to look for.
Start with that and I will give you something more to react to.
Maybe just explore a bit? You are looking for Asha, water, the big bad, and at this cave. So there is plenty to look for.
Start with that and I will give you something more to react to.
May 29, 2022 1:57 am
Airshark says:
I am imagining the space we are in now as a big room/hall with (maybe) multiple exits, but they are hard to see with all the reflections of the crystalsMay 31, 2022 1:38 pm
TrailHead says:
vagueGM says:
... you got the impression that Asha's faith was... a little less constant than yours ...TrailHead says:
... assumes that of course she must believe in Raynor ...TrailHead says:
... because of the miracles that they’ve all witnessed ...Deoring would have noticed that she very quickly glomed onto Alycine during the fight with the bandits (even if TrailHead was not sufficiently present to know that, and even though that PC does not exist anymore and possibly never did in this reality:) before believing in Albert and his deity.
TrailHead says:
... she didn’t notice her axe was glowing ...TrailHead says:
... so she’s top of mind ...May 31, 2022 2:59 pm
vagueGM says:
gaucheI have to admit, I was also a bit confused by the post to Deoring, but didn't mention anything as it's not my character :)
May 31, 2022 3:06 pm
TheGenerator says:
... I learned a new word today :D ...TheGenerator says:
... I was also a bit confused ...Any advice on a better way to have relayed this new information? Maybe an OOC explanation that it is new?
May 31, 2022 3:15 pm
vagueGM says:
Any advice on a better way to have relayed this new information?OOC:
Your character would have noticed ...., use (or ignore) this information as you please.Last edited May 31, 2022 3:16 pm
Jun 1, 2022 3:44 am
TheGenerator says:
Is it okay for me to narrate Albert finding a new tunnel branch?Jun 1, 2022 1:28 pm
Valdus says:
So is the Tavern Trickster part of this group?Feel free to ask questions if any of the previous events come up and you don't know why things are the way they are or why the other characters care.
Valdus says:
Or must some blanks be filled?We don't have to fill in all the blanks, but we currently know very little about your character, making it hard to integrate them. The mechanics on this game are very light, so we rely on the fiction to drive things.
Jun 1, 2022 2:01 pm
vagueGM says:
From IC: the man in the mirror is motioning for you to come over to his side<joke>If there's a man in the mirror, I'd like to talk to him and ask him to change his ways. My message could not be any clearer.</joke>
Jun 1, 2022 2:09 pm
TheGenerator says:
[Do you mean the reflection of Albert or is there some unknown man there?Jun 1, 2022 5:16 pm
Rialto has noticed his illusions, tricks becoming something to magicks. No doubt keeping it under wraps. Though from an RP perspective it would be cool to play those powers emerging.
Jun 4, 2022 6:17 am
TrailHead says:
(in RP)Would Deoring’s Awareness come into play here?Assume the others fall quiet and narrate what you do (if you are doing anything specific), and add the roll.
Jun 4, 2022 12:58 pm
TrailHead says:
Perhaps Raynor provides aid in the form of sound waves as well as light!Jun 4, 2022 10:58 pm
vagueGM says:
Ha, maybe. I can not think of an advanced benefit here and now, but we can remember the 14 and bring it back later if it becomes appropriate.Jun 5, 2022 7:05 am
TrailHead says:
(in RP)"Quick, down this passage to the right.."[/b]Jun 7, 2022 1:14 pm
Valdus says:
(in RP)"Where, where am I," he croaks, surprised at his own voice. "How did we get here..."Jun 7, 2022 2:55 pm
Lol I thought I would mix the low HP and that he just appears, to role-play it out.
You got the GM creds for this, you can handle it!
You got the GM creds for this, you can handle it!
Jun 7, 2022 3:19 pm
Valdus says:
... mix the low HP ...Valdus says:
... and that he just appears ...Valdus says:
... you can handle it! ...The current events are about an NPC, so they are very secondary to what the PCs are doing, so don't worry about derailing that if you want to put your character front and center.
Jun 7, 2022 4:27 pm
I realize the time and effort we have both played in the creation of Rialto. I am sorry, perhaps my gameplay is too casual ( I no longer have the mind I once had to crunch with the best of them) but I respectfully withdraw.
Jun 7, 2022 6:01 pm
Deleting the out of place post from the RP:
"Where, where am I," he croaks, surprised at his own voice. "How did we get here..."
[ +- ] what was said
Valdus says:
Rialto the trickster shakes his head, stumbling unbelieving. His face appears to not know where he is. Dazed more than a bit confused he limps about, his arm rolling at the shoulder with some pain. He appears utterly disoriented and seemingly has no idea what is going on. "Where, where am I," he croaks, surprised at his own voice. "How did we get here..."
Jun 11, 2022 4:57 pm
TheGenerator says:
(OOC in RP)is there a way for Albert to do some sort of medical check of Asha on a spiritual level? To see if her soul is alright with Raynor's helpHow would you do that? What sort of thing would it reveal?
Jun 11, 2022 5:17 pm
I was thinking Albert puts his hand on her shoulder and tries to connect with Raynor to sense any distress
Jun 11, 2022 5:24 pm
TheGenerator says:
... tries to connect with Raynor to sense any distressJun 11, 2022 7:53 pm
Gonna wait a bit and see what the others are doing before responding to Albert.
Jun 11, 2022 8:06 pm
vagueGM says:
Gonna wait a bit and see what the others are doing before responding to Albert.Jun 12, 2022 10:19 am
Ah, whoops.
[ref]
I meant "you don't feel any connection between Asha's soul and Raynor" not that Albert is cut off.
If you want to make that be a thing that is true, I can easily make it fit into the story.
[ref]
I meant "you don't feel any connection between Asha's soul and Raynor" not that Albert is cut off.
If you want to make that be a thing that is true, I can easily make it fit into the story.
Jun 12, 2022 10:36 am
Trailhead, Albert is going to want to talk to Deoring in private about Asha. But I'll wait for you to have a chance to react to the current situation first :)
Jun 14, 2022 3:32 am
TheGenerator says:
Trailhead, Albert is going to want to talk to Deoring in private about Asha. But I'll wait for you to have a chance to react to the current situation first :)Jun 14, 2022 11:28 am
TrailHead says:
Okay - I was waiting to see if Deoring heard or saw anything in the crystals. Does he, VagueGM?Jun 16, 2022 2:51 pm
TheGenerator says:
(in RP)Can I roll a, to use Dungeon World terms,[/i] Spout Lore?Jun 16, 2022 3:58 pm
Alright, but I might need some help from the oracle
Rolls
Action & Theme - (2d100)
(1393) = 106
Jun 16, 2022 4:51 pm
vagueGM says:
By all means spout some loreJun 16, 2022 5:36 pm
That is per the definition: "a response or message given by an oracle, especially an ambiguous one."
And, yes, an 'oracle' includes 'oracle' in the definition...
And, yes, an 'oracle' includes 'oracle' in the definition...
Jun 17, 2022 6:39 am
Trailhead,
Is this an OOC question? (cause I'm assuming that she has been, yes :) )
Or is it just Deoring's thoughts?
Trailhead says:

Or is it just Deoring's thoughts?
Jun 17, 2022 11:16 am
TheGenerator says:
Trailhead,Trailhead says:

Or is it just Deoring's thoughts?
pay no attention to the dice below the curtain.
Rolls
Die of wet Fate - (1d6)
(1) = 1
Jun 17, 2022 2:36 pm
TheGenerator says:
Trailhead,Trailhead says:

Or is it just Deoring's thoughts?
Jun 17, 2022 5:27 pm
@vagueGM, Asha picked up a bone outside the temple thinking it was a club.
However, for the test it wasn't relevant, as you stated 😁
So Asha at least still acts like Asha. Odd. Not sure what to do with that now. I'll wait for the others to chime in.
However, for the test it wasn't relevant, as you stated 😁
So Asha at least still acts like Asha. Odd. Not sure what to do with that now. I'll wait for the others to chime in.
Jun 17, 2022 5:57 pm
TheGenerator says:
Asha picked up a bone outside the temple thinking it was a club.Jun 19, 2022 3:14 pm
@vagueGM, is Asha's comment about there being no water something we shouldn't ignore?
Asha's behavior and the loss of connection to Raynor has made her suspicious. So Albert doesn't really trust her fully. It's a bit of an annoying situation and it'll take some time and investigation to get that trust back. Unfortunately, we really need water urgently and for all we know she'd be leading us away from water.
Asha's behavior and the loss of connection to Raynor has made her suspicious. So Albert doesn't really trust her fully. It's a bit of an annoying situation and it'll take some time and investigation to get that trust back. Unfortunately, we really need water urgently and for all we know she'd be leading us away from water.
Jun 19, 2022 3:21 pm
TheGenerator says:
... is Asha's comment about there being no water something we shouldn't ignore? ...You really need water, so not looking for water would be foolish.
You have all been down here a long as she has, right? So there is no reasonable way that she should have access to definite knowledge about this fact.
Jun 19, 2022 10:02 pm
Airshark says:
(in RP) ... Roald would like to weigh in on the previous conversation by saying that Asha might be delusional because of dehydration.[/ooc]We can assume that Roald said that, or you can play out saying it if you want the other to respond.
Jun 21, 2022 1:34 pm
TheGenerator says:
(in RP)... Roll with str? ...Yeah, let's have a roll to see how well it goes. Everyone should narrate what they are doing before we resolve it. Anyone who wants to can roll.
TheGenerator says:
(in RP)... So there's a set of stairs and at the top a trap door going up? ...I went back and forth a few times about whether there are also stairs going down here. I am thinking not, but if we want, we can have some. I don't know if we want to have another level.
Jun 21, 2022 7:32 pm
vagueGM says:
TheGenerator says:
... Broom broom ...Jun 22, 2022 4:42 am
Oops, I posted in the RP thread before I read over here. I will post a follow up over there and add a roll.
Jun 22, 2022 8:02 am
With Airshark's comment I couldn't help but think of this video. :P
Jun 22, 2022 2:48 pm
TrailHead says:
(in RP)Edit to change from TrailHead to Deoring.If you go back and change who it was posted as, I don't think the software even marks that as a edit. It is just a cleanup to make the thread look pretty and be a little easier to read (so thanks for doing it).
TrailHead says:
... I meant he stepped up on the steps ...Jun 22, 2022 2:48 pm
Airshark says:
... this sounds SO wrong 🫤Jun 22, 2022 2:53 pm
vagueGM says:
I don't think the software even marks that as a editJun 22, 2022 2:59 pm
TheGenerator says:
vagueGM says:
I don't think the software even marks that as a editI just realised that I somehow ended up being a player in a game and have to make sheets again, and will have to start remembering to use that dropdown. :)
Jun 22, 2022 3:56 pm
Two is a quorum. Prepare to replace your 'thirst' problem with a 'wet' problem. :)
Rolls
Deluge Die of Fate - (1d6)
(3) = 3
Jun 24, 2022 12:27 am
TheGenerator, I see what you did there. Nicely done with the "I guess that’s the next step." LOL
Jun 24, 2022 5:13 am
Airshark says:
(in RP)is it Asha or Ahsa... Did I read it wrong the whole time??Jun 24, 2022 7:40 am
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
(in RP)is it Asha or Ahsa... Did I read it wrong the whole time??Kinda cool. It's the first time I realized you can give subtle clues to players that you couldn't do in an at-the-table game.
Jun 24, 2022 7:42 am
TrailHead says:
TheGenerator, I see what you did there. Nicely done with the "I guess that’s the next step." LOLJun 24, 2022 11:45 am
TheGenerator says:
... give subtle clues to players ...The players picked up on some of these, so I did not feel the need to bump up the intensity, but something has changed with her, though it is subtle/hidden enough that it could be missed, but looking back the characters will go: "how could we have missed that?".
Jun 24, 2022 12:58 pm
Wow I totally missed the Asha to Ahsa switch. At least the name spelling part. I knew something was going on.
Jun 25, 2022 1:29 pm
Hmm, I'm a bit confused.
If I got it right we're back at the stairs with the bell at the top, right? But afaik, that route was blocked when we entered. Is the blocking wall gone now?
If I got it right we're back at the stairs with the bell at the top, right? But afaik, that route was blocked when we entered. Is the blocking wall gone now?
Jun 25, 2022 8:47 pm
TheGenerator says:
... we're back at the stairs with the bell at the top, right? ...TheGenerator says:
... that route was blocked ...TheGenerator says:
... Is the blocking wall gone now? ...You did not find the way from the room below to the stairs, but I don't recall much looking, and the way from the stairs is easier to find as the inside of a stairwell is smaller and more constrained than a large room that might have 'hidden' stairs behind some wall.
Aside from the water and the stone figures attitude, nothing significant has changed up here.
Does that help?
Jun 25, 2022 10:27 pm
I mean this
The way to the window we entered from was blocked. We had no way of getting out.
The way to the window we entered from was blocked. We had no way of getting out.
Jun 25, 2022 10:33 pm
Indeed. That trap seems to have reset itself when it was forgotten about. Probably a time delay?
Jun 25, 2022 11:06 pm
TheGenerator says:
(in RP)... takes a few minutes to try and wring his clothes out ...The captain will follow Asha and try to keep her safe if you guys don't.
TheGenerator says:
... I don't know if this will work ...You tell us what is involved, and what Deoring should do (mechanically) and we can see. I can see pretty clear options for outcomes.
Bear in mind that there is water just outside. I don't know how Raynor would feel about this. You tell can us.
Jun 25, 2022 11:26 pm
I guess it would only take about a minute. Albert will let Asha go on ahead. He doesn't know that the way out is no longer blocked and probably won't hear her talk about the gargoyle, either cause of the distance or because by then he's already praying.
I think Deoring needs to decide what he should do other than what Albert asked :) There is no "correct way" of praying as far as he's concerned. As long as it's genuine.
We established that Albert has been tasked with cleansing the temple, so I think Raynor would want to keep him close to where this cleansing needs to be done. Heading out for water would probably not fit his plans. That's my guess at least :)
I also think that Albert lacks the desire to leave. He'd probably need some convincing.
I think Deoring needs to decide what he should do other than what Albert asked :) There is no "correct way" of praying as far as he's concerned. As long as it's genuine.
We established that Albert has been tasked with cleansing the temple, so I think Raynor would want to keep him close to where this cleansing needs to be done. Heading out for water would probably not fit his plans. That's my guess at least :)
I also think that Albert lacks the desire to leave. He'd probably need some convincing.
Jun 25, 2022 11:40 pm
TheGenerator says:
... take about a minute ...TheGenerator says:
... doesn't know that the way out is no longer blocked ... cause of the distance ...TheGenerator says:
... Deoring needs to decide what he should do ...Roald can be placed when Airshark gets back. We can assume they did the logical thing to get where we find them.
TheGenerator says:
... Albert has been tasked with cleansing the temple, so I think Raynor would want to keep him close ...If you are rewarded with clean water, then you can assume you are not 'meant' to leave, if you instead ruin a waterskin it could mean you are being silly and Raynor does not mind if you step out for a few minutes to resupply. Middling results are always harder to draw conclusions from, we shall see.
TheGenerator says:
... He'd probably need some convincing ...Jun 25, 2022 11:52 pm
Yes, Albert didn't go through the plug yet and I believe Deoring was following him. So he's close.
Can I have TrailHead roll the fate die? :) I think Deoring has earned the right to roll it. I guess a middle results will give Albert diarrhea when he drinks the nasty water.
Can I have TrailHead roll the fate die? :) I think Deoring has earned the right to roll it. I guess a middle results will give Albert diarrhea when he drinks the nasty water.
Last edited June 25, 2022 11:53 pm
Jun 26, 2022 12:09 am
TheGenerator says:
... Albert didn't go through the plug yet ...TheGenerator says:
... I believe Deoring was following him ...TheGenerator says:
... Can I have TrailHead roll the fate die? ...TheGenerator says:
... a middle results will give Albert diarrhea when he drinks the nasty water ...Before rolling the Die of Fate, we need to know we are rolling for, what does a 1 mean, what does a 6 mean. Define the question before asking the Oracle.
Jun 26, 2022 2:10 am
Albert just wants drinkable water. He's not confused about his task. So the question is; Does Raynor provide when his followers are in need?
Jun 26, 2022 2:19 am
TheGenerator says:
Albert just wants ...There is water just outside, so there is more going on than just getting water, it feeds into what Albert will end up believing and will affect the upcoming decision about 'Asha' (I can tell you for free that she is not going to want to come back down here, and your characters will know that is likely).
TheGenerator says:
Does Raynor provide when his followers are in need?Jun 26, 2022 3:54 pm
Hmm, I'm actually not sure then. Maybe it just shows how valuable Albert and Deoring are to Raynor's cause?
I'm also fine with it just not working at all, if we want to keep the whole miracle stuff out of the game. :) I just thought it would be a nice bit of RP, as it would also get Deoring more involved.
I'm also fine with it just not working at all, if we want to keep the whole miracle stuff out of the game. :) I just thought it would be a nice bit of RP, as it would also get Deoring more involved.
Jun 26, 2022 9:00 pm
TheGenerator says:
... shows how valuable Albert and Deoring are to Raynor's cause? ...TheGenerator says:
... fine with it just not working at all, if we want to keep the whole miracle stuff out of the game ...Albert's choice to stay behind after some ran off has split the party, and I would hate for him to get nothing and then find the NPCs above got killed by gargoyles as the price for that nothing.
Jun 27, 2022 4:27 am
I’m good either way with the miracle working or not working. As long as it is clear to the PCs if it works or not. Deoring’s not going to drink disgusting water. If it is miraculously clear looking and no longer smells bad, he will drink it. Otherwise not. He may be fresh faced but not totally naive. His father is a miller - he knows that if you add dirty water to good flour you’ll make a bad tasting loaf of bread.
Jun 27, 2022 4:34 am
OK.
@TrailHead, do you want to roll the Die of Fate as suggested above?
The drinkability of the water will be obvious enough to the PCs, even if it does take Albert giving himself diarrhoea before he is convinced. :)
@TrailHead, do you want to roll the Die of Fate as suggested above?
The drinkability of the water will be obvious enough to the PCs, even if it does take Albert giving himself diarrhoea before he is convinced. :)
Jun 27, 2022 6:53 am
vagueGM says:
Albert's choice to stay behind after some ran off has split the party, and I would hate for him to get nothing and then find the NPCs above got killed by gargoyles as the price for that nothing.I see that TrailHead didn't roll the die. If you feel like speeding things up, feel free to roll it, vagueGM.
Jun 27, 2022 12:38 pm
TheGenerator says:
I see that TrailHead didn't roll the die. If you feel like speeding things up, feel free to roll it, vagueGM.Jun 27, 2022 1:54 pm
I did some more thinking about the whole miracle thing.
First off, I hope I'm not making things too difficult :) If so, that was not my intention.
The way I was seeing it was not as much a miracle, but more like the D&D spell "Purify Food & Drink". Since we're in a world where magic is shunned, maybe divine spells are not a thing, though. Or divine spells are miracles?
First off, I hope I'm not making things too difficult :) If so, that was not my intention.
The way I was seeing it was not as much a miracle, but more like the D&D spell "Purify Food & Drink". Since we're in a world where magic is shunned, maybe divine spells are not a thing, though. Or divine spells are miracles?
Jun 27, 2022 2:35 pm
TheGenerator says:
... I hope I'm not making things too difficult ...TheGenerator says:
... not as much a miracle, but more like the D&D spell "Purify Food & Drink" ...DnD trivialising those and makes all sorts of playstyles/gamestyles impossible. How can one run a 'survival' game when first level spells like Goodberry can completely feed, water, and sustain ten people for a whole day (in addition to the healing benefits), and those Purify spells can make tons of anything that can be considered 'food' safe. At least with Purify, it first has to be 'food or water' --so something you would already consider drinking but was maybe a bit risky-- and it does not say it makes it any less unpleasant.
TheGenerator says:
... divine spells are miracles? ...The fact that you need to roll for it each time takes this away from the DnD system of 'guaranteed 10 fed people per day' to 'this might work if my god wills it' type miracle territory. And will need an unlikely result (maybe 5 or 6 if you want to roll the Die of Fate, 10 or 12 if you want to roll +STAT?) to work.
Unanswered petitions for miracles possibly comes with irritated gods as the downside. Getting sick from drinking the water was already happening, and is a consequence of drinking the water, not of the failed miracle.
Someone should roll this so we can see how it turns out.
Jun 27, 2022 3:00 pm
vagueGM says:
It is not difficult, just complicated.vagueGM says:
away from the DnD system of 'guaranteed 10 fed people per day' to 'this might work if my god wills it'We could also steer away from a miracle and solve it with guidance (as Raynor has shown to do before)? Instead of giving us water, Raynor could just give Albert and Deoring a mental nudge. Something like:
Bad result: They are reminded of the task at hand. Get to work!
Mid result: Nothing happens -> maybe Albert drinks the water?
Good result: Raynor somehow lets them know it's ok to go and resupply.
Would something like that be a better/easier fit?
Jun 27, 2022 3:08 pm
TheGenerator says:
... solve it with guidance ...We should know what we are rolling for before we roll. I feel I now have enough from this discussion to make a judgement, though.
[ +- ] victory?
TheGenerator says:
... Raynor has shown to do before ...Jun 27, 2022 6:07 pm
vagueGM says:
I did suggest thatvagueGM says:
We should know what we are rolling for before we roll. I feel I now have enough from this discussion to make a judgement, though.If possible, I'd still like to involve Deoring, though. Since the party is in this together, I like the thought of not only Albert getting signs.
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Jun 27, 2022 8:39 pm
TheGenerator says:
... those 2 sentences contradict each other ...TheGenerator says:
... I'd still like to involve Deoring ... I like the thought of not only Albert getting signs ...Jun 27, 2022 9:14 pm
TheGenerator says:
Are we rolling fate or +wis?If we are rolling with a stat (which could also be +CHA if you are tying to convince your god to help) then you have a bit more control (choice of stat, and that being added to the dice) and better/more defined outcomes, but one of those outcomes is a defined negative, whereas there does not have to be negative outcome on the Die of Fate (it is not a Move, and does not follow those rules), but you have no way of adjusting the odds.
Jun 27, 2022 9:58 pm
Well, I rolled a 1. So... Fun ensured!
Should have let TrailHead roll this alone :p
Should have let TrailHead roll this alone :p
Jun 27, 2022 9:59 pm
TheGenerator says:
... Should have let TrailHead roll this alone :pLet's see if they can pull this out of the sewer.
Jun 29, 2022 12:14 am
Sorry I have been offline for a bit. My spouse's work schedule is upside down this week, involving getting up at 12:30 AM to work from 2:00 AM and it's disrupted my schedule as well. Let me jump over and roll the die of fate. (Crossing fingers.)
Jun 29, 2022 12:20 am
TheGenerator says:
Well, I rolled a 1. So... Fun ensured!Should have let TrailHead roll this alone :p
Jun 29, 2022 2:42 am
TrailHead says:
... 12:30 AM to work from 2:00 AM and it's disrupted my schedule as well ...Hope it settles.
TrailHead says:
... I hope my roll of 6 makes up for it?Jun 29, 2022 6:38 am
TrailHead says:
Sorry I have been offline for a bit. My spouse's work schedule is upside down this week, involving getting up at 12:30 AM to work from 2:00 AM and it's disrupted my schedule as well. Let me jump over and roll the die of fate. (Crossing fingers.)I don't mind waiting on your input.
@vagueGM; I like that the weapon lights faded away. That's a good result :)
Jun 29, 2022 6:45 am
TheGenerator says:
I like that the weapon lights faded away. That's a good result :)You may be able to recapture the blessing by recommitting to Raynor's goals, and you could also learn to control it as a Special Ability (Similar to 'Bless') if we get to level up.
Jul 1, 2022 3:46 am
TrailHead says:
(in RP)I’m assuming Deoring and Roald were included in the "we" of the Captain’s statement, "We will watch for danger."If you want Deoring to help Albert instead, we can have you called over there to understudy clericing.
Jul 1, 2022 1:16 pm
Added my roll. It's a 6... Maybe Raynor is unhappy with Albert right now?
Getting Asha some help might be a good enough reason for Albert to leave the temple, though. So perhaps it's a good result.. in a way.
Getting Asha some help might be a good enough reason for Albert to leave the temple, though. So perhaps it's a good result.. in a way.
Jul 1, 2022 1:25 pm
TheGenerator says:
... perhaps it's a good result.. in a way.Jul 2, 2022 2:49 am
If it feels strange to be told we 'feel better' (ease inner turmoil) [ref], remember that this is the result of a 6-. If it were a 'dragon' and a 'fear effect' we would think it fine, why not so with 'cute girl' and a 'reassurance'?
Jul 2, 2022 4:33 am
What’s in the area (corridor?) we are in? Is there anything we could use as a shield?
Jul 2, 2022 4:56 am
Answered in the RP to set the scene more clearly.
You are in the temple, by the door you originally came in from.
You are in the temple, by the door you originally came in from.
Jul 2, 2022 7:15 am
Got some long car rides ahead of me, so count me back in!
Is this the stairway that leads to the tower with the bell? Maybe we can surprise attack the gargoyles (?) From above?
Is this the stairway that leads to the tower with the bell? Maybe we can surprise attack the gargoyles (?) From above?

Jul 2, 2022 7:31 am
I don't see any fish in that picture! Where's the fish?! :)
Yes. The same stairway. Though you are now in the temple building itself. The stairway, the window, and the bell are all available if you want to use them for anything.
Maybe, with (or as) a distraction distraction? The NPCs first tried getting out through the window you all came in through [ref], and were attacked up there, so the gargoyles are aware of that route.
@Airshark: Was Roal with them when that happened? Do you want to add (or need me to add) some extra --and possibly useful-- detail to that encounter? Maybe something Roald noticed that the others --who were below-- would not be aware of?
Airshark says:
... Is this the stairway that leads to the tower with the bell? ...Airshark says:
... Maybe we can surprise attack the gargoyles (?) From above? ...@Airshark: Was Roal with them when that happened? Do you want to add (or need me to add) some extra --and possibly useful-- detail to that encounter? Maybe something Roald noticed that the others --who were below-- would not be aware of?
Jul 2, 2022 12:44 pm
Roald was tending to his wet clothes, so he didn't run ahead with Asha.
Wouldn't be fair to say otherwise now. 😉
I was thinking of sounding the bell once more as a diversion, but that could also be a very bad idea.
A distraction would give the npc's a chance to escape to the woods (were there woods?) But than there is still a party stuck in the Temple. So that is only half a solution, though it might save Asha.
Wouldn't be fair to say otherwise now. 😉
I was thinking of sounding the bell once more as a diversion, but that could also be a very bad idea.
A distraction would give the npc's a chance to escape to the woods (were there woods?) But than there is still a party stuck in the Temple. So that is only half a solution, though it might save Asha.
Jul 2, 2022 12:56 pm
Airshark says:
... didn't run ahead with Asha. Wouldn't be fair to say otherwise now. ...If you went with, you would know that the window was not a safe exit, but the captain will inform you all of the risk if you suggest going that way, so not a big deal either way. Asha can not make it out via the window and the climb in her condition.
Airshark says:
... thinking of sounding the bell once more as a diversion, but that could also be a very bad idea ...Airshark says:
... were there woods? ...Airshark says:
... A distraction would give the npc's a chance ...Jul 2, 2022 4:31 pm
The easiest way out is probably the front door, especially if Asha can't walk on her own. A distraction might be a good idea though
Jul 3, 2022 3:56 am
TheGenerator says:
The easiest way out is probably the front door, especially if Asha can't walk on her own. A distraction might be a good idea thoughDeoring is hale and hearty and can take a blow. Would he volunteer to draw the gargoyles away or should the captain suggest it? She would probably join the distraction if it were her idea, and will happily do so if asked.
Jul 6, 2022 3:48 am
vagueGM says:
TheGenerator says:
The easiest way out is probably the front door, especially if Asha can't walk on her own. A distraction might be a good idea thoughDeoring is hale and hearty and can take a blow. Would he volunteer to draw the gargoyles away or should the captain suggest it? She would probably join the distraction if it were her idea, and will happily do so if asked.
Jul 6, 2022 3:59 am
TrailHead says:
Sounds like a good plan. Let’s do it!Jul 6, 2022 4:49 am
Deoring has volunteered to draw the gargoyles away so Asha can be carried to safety. Are the others ready for him to act?
I don’t want to send him out there if the Captain, Roald and Albert aren’t yet ready to go.
I don’t want to send him out there if the Captain, Roald and Albert aren’t yet ready to go.
Jul 6, 2022 7:20 am
Looks like everybody wants to be the hero today :)
Go for it Deoring!
Roald will stay behind with whomever creates the distraction just in case things go south.
Go for it Deoring!
Roald will stay behind with whomever creates the distraction just in case things go south.
Jul 7, 2022 11:36 am
Airshark says:
(in RP)... vagueGM says:
... relying on your athleticism ...You will still need to get a good nights rest and a proper meal before you can try to shrug off the deficit.
Airshark says:
(in RP)... Roald waits ...Jul 7, 2022 12:53 pm
It will be a surprise.
Roald didn't want the discussion to go on any longer. Though he will probably yell something like ''go go'' or ''now'' when the opportunity for an escape arises
Roald didn't want the discussion to go on any longer. Though he will probably yell something like ''go go'' or ''now'' when the opportunity for an escape arises
Jul 7, 2022 2:29 pm
Airshark says:
... yell something like ''go go'' or ''now'' when the opportunity for an escape arisesJul 8, 2022 3:39 am
TrailHead says:
(in RP)As the gargoyles swipe at him in passing, Deoring slashes his sword back and forth to try to parry their attacks.Jul 9, 2022 12:08 am
vagueGM says:
Maybe give us a roll (+DEX seems right for 'parrying'?) to see how well you fair.Jul 9, 2022 11:45 am
Airshark says:
(in RP)... From the corner of his eye he sees a shadow dislodge itself from the roof. ...Airshark says:
... dex roll? ...What is your objective? To get to the woods, or just to avoid the claw wile helping Deoring?
Jul 9, 2022 2:54 pm
The roll is to dodge the claw.
Getting to the woods will require another roll I guess, probably CON?
I'm counting on the gargoyles to defend the Temple rather than pursue and attack.
Fingers crossed.
Getting to the woods will require another roll I guess, probably CON?
I'm counting on the gargoyles to defend the Temple rather than pursue and attack.
Fingers crossed.
Jul 9, 2022 3:57 pm
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
(in RP)... From the corner of his eye he sees a shadow dislodge itself from the roof. ...vagueGM says:
- Albert -Spurred on by Roald's words, the captain puts on a burst of speed while doing her best to not jostle the patient. The way ahead seems clear --Deoring having pulled the stone guardians away from your position (were there only two? surely there were more on the other corners? ...).
"I surely hope they won't follow us into the trees." The captain pants, her dehydrated exhaustion showing in her slowed movements.
Jul 9, 2022 4:06 pm
Airshark says:
... Actually, you did ...Airshark says:
... I didn't anticipate it to get down so quickly. My intention was to be on the run before it would hit us ...Airshark says:
... Poor Roald, this isn't looking good ...Jul 9, 2022 4:19 pm
Airshark says:
(in RP)... swings it blindly towards his enemy ...If getting free if what you seek, then go ahead and describe it with your 10.
Jul 9, 2022 5:16 pm
vagueGM says:
If getting free is what you seek, then, with your 10, show your techniqueJul 9, 2022 5:39 pm
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
(in RP)... swings it blindly towards his enemy ...If getting free if what you seek, then go ahead and describe it with your 10.
Jul 9, 2022 5:45 pm
Airshark says:
... Breaking free is the main goal ...Airshark says:
... I don't know what good a sword is against these stone monsters ...Airshark says:
... Maybe the blow gives me enough wiggling room to get out from underneath and make a run for it ...Jul 9, 2022 5:50 pm
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
... Breaking free is the main goal ...Airshark says:
... I don't know what good a sword is against these stone monsters ...Airshark says:
... Maybe the blow gives me enough wiggling room to get out from underneath and make a run for it ...Gonna wait for trailhead to continue now.
Jul 10, 2022 4:18 am
Perhaps Deoring will end up helping Roald - the opposite of what I expected would happen.
Jul 10, 2022 6:08 am
TrailHead says:
Perhaps Deoring will end up helping Roald - the opposite of what I expected would happen.Is Deoring attempting to keep the stone-cold baddies off Roald? If you so you can roll to 'protect' both of you, if not then you will be better able to keep yourself from harm, but Roald will need to make his own roll.
I don't see much active defence in your post, are you just toughing it out as you jog along? If so, maybe roll +CON?
Jul 10, 2022 9:20 am
TheGenerator says:
Do I need to roll something to get to the forest?Jul 11, 2022 3:12 am
vagueGM says:
Is Deoring attempting to keep the stone-cold baddies off Roald? If you so you can roll to 'protect' both of you, if not then you will be better able to keep yourself from harm, but Roald will need to make his own roll.I don't see much active defence in your post, are you just toughing it out as you jog along? If so, maybe roll +CON?
Jul 11, 2022 11:12 am
I want to do a roll to see if Albert knows any way to defeat or distract gargoyles. Is it OK to use a yes/no oracle roll for that?
Jul 11, 2022 12:16 pm
TheGenerator says:
I want to do a roll to see if Albert knows any way to defeat or distract gargoyles.Is now the time to be worrying about that, though? You already know how to distract them (briefly) and are focused on getting away rather than defeat. If you are coming back, you could try do research in the meantime so you don't need to worry about them next time.
TheGenerator says:
Is it OK to use a yes/no oracle roll for that?Jul 11, 2022 12:29 pm
vagueGM says:
It would be more like a 'Very Unlikely' oracle rather than a yes/no oracle, but possibly, based on the fiction you concoct to back it up.vagueGM says:
Build it in the fiction and we can see.It would be more like: "Suddenly, from the back of his mind, seeing the gargoyle flying sparks a memory". I assume that would be something to add after a roll, instead of before.
The only other thing I can come up with for Albert to do is run faster, and he's not particularly athletic.
Jul 11, 2022 12:37 pm
TheGenerator says:
... "Suddenly, from the back of his mind, seeing the gargoyle flying sparks a memory". I assume that would be something to add after a roll, instead of before. ...It would probably an INT or WIS roll (Spout Lore or Discern Realities, style) rather than an oracle, and come with all the risks of any other 6-.
TheGenerator says:
... run faster, and he's not particularly athletic ...Jul 11, 2022 1:35 pm
I added some fiction. I think INT would be the stat to use. Let me know if it's descriptive enough to create a roll.
Jul 11, 2022 1:40 pm
TheGenerator says:
... descriptive enough to create a roll.Jul 11, 2022 2:19 pm
Albert 20 posts ago: "I think I should be the distraction that gets you all out."
Somehow, he ended up being the only one not distracting the bad guys.
Somehow, he ended up being the only one not distracting the bad guys.

Jul 11, 2022 3:02 pm
TheGenerator says:
Albert 20 posts ago: "I think I should be the distraction that gets you all out."Somehow, he ended up being the only one not distracting the bad guys.

Jul 11, 2022 3:27 pm
TrailHead says:
... I fear I let Deoring disengage too soon.C'est la vie.
Jul 11, 2022 8:37 pm
Looks like this might be the last of the fresh faced adventurers.
Didn't roll because not sure if you wanted me to roll for con
Didn't roll because not sure if you wanted me to roll for con
Jul 12, 2022 4:42 am
Airshark says:
Didn't roll because not sure if you wanted me to roll for conAirshark says:
(in RP)some kind of defence roll?Trying to draw the attention away from other people sounds like a +CHA, not so? You are not actually 'defending' them so much as 'distracting' but I don't see the gargoyle heading for the captain seeing any reason to come back to people who are not fleeing (they are trying to stop you from leaving, after all) so maybe +CON will result in the captain seeing your bravery and being heartened?
Airshark says:
Looks like this might be the last of the fresh faced adventurers.You are almost out, one more roll could have gotten you away... still can if you fly unlike fools.
Jul 12, 2022 10:16 am
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
Didn't roll because not sure if you wanted me to roll for conAirshark says:
(in RP)some kind of defence roll?Trying to draw the attention away from other people sounds like a +CHA, not so? You are not actually 'defending' them so much as 'distracting' but I don't see the gargoyle heading for the captain seeing any reason to come back to people who are not fleeing (they are trying to stop you from leaving, after all) so maybe +CON will result in the captain seeing your bravery and being heartened?
Airshark says:
Looks like this might be the last of the fresh faced adventurers.You are almost out, one more roll could have gotten you away... still can if you fly unlike fools.
😉
Jul 14, 2022 2:50 am
VagueGM, what do you suggest I roll for this?
Jul 14, 2022 10:35 am
TrailHead says:
VagueGM, what do you suggest I roll for this?Attacking would be the normal attack stats (STR or DEX?). But you know that your weapons are not likely to be very effective.
Surviving the return attack could be +CON or +DEX (depending on how you are doing it).
Getting the attention away from your companions and back on yourself sounds like +CHA. But a very easy (almost too easy to need a roll) +WIS might tell you that, since their apparent goal is to prevent people from leaving (they did not attack before, for some reason), the chances of getting them to give up on everyone else is slim.
If you want to roll +WIS you may learn something, there may be something (important? who can say) that you can pick up from their reaction to your attempt, but you will leave yourself vulnerable.
Jul 14, 2022 10:35 am
@TheGenerator: It sounds like Albert is straining a bit. Maybe roll +STR to see if you can get to the woods?
Jul 14, 2022 10:45 am
vagueGM says:
It sounds like Albert is straining a bit. Maybe roll +STR to see if you can get to the woods?Jul 14, 2022 10:47 am
Or by trying to remortgage your life dedication to a god you were already dedicated to? :)
Jul 14, 2022 11:05 am
vagueGM says:
Or by trying to remortgage your life dedication to a god you were already dedicated to? :)Jul 14, 2022 11:07 am
TheGenerator says:
Well he's not making himself very popular right now :PJul 14, 2022 6:49 pm
Airshark says:
(in RP)I inserted the chance to escape because of the 12 I rolled. Maybe a con roll is still necessary to get to the edge of the forest?Depending on how(/what) Deoring does, Albert may be in need of help. Maybe the 12 gets you there fast enough to turn and see their need and help them in some way?
If you are willing to risk your own skin, then the 12 could also allow you to notice earlier and help Albert get 'Asha' to to safety, but you would both be subject to harm from your respective gargoyles (1d6). Deoring may be able to mitigate this, decide before you know if it is safe.
Jul 14, 2022 8:22 pm
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
(in RP)I inserted the chance to escape because of the 12 I rolled. Maybe a con roll is still necessary to get to the edge of the forest?Depending on how(/what) Deoring does, Albert may be in need of help. Maybe the 12 gets you there fast enough to turn and see their need and help them in some way?
If you are willing to risk your own skin, then the 12 could also allow you to notice earlier and help Albert get 'Asha' to to safety, but you would both be subject to harm from your respective gargoyles (1d6). Deoring may be able to mitigate this, decide before you know if it is safe.
Jul 14, 2022 8:37 pm
Airshark says:
The problem is that we deliberately ran in a different direction than Asha to lure the gargoyles away. So I don't think that's an option.I thought that, maybe, 'forest' was close enough to the same direction.
Go ahead and narrate yourself getting to the forest's edge and the gargoyle chasing you getting pulled up short (like a dog on a leash?). Maybe now that you know they won't/can't come in, you can circle round and be there to help the others 'next round'?
I don't know what a gargoyle would do once you get away, but I don't see it tracking you on the other side, it probably goes back to help its buddies with those still in its demesne.
They did not stop you from coming in, so it probably won't try to prevent you from coming back to help. I am not sure the characters have enough information to know this, but you could discover this if you try.
Jul 16, 2022 12:38 am
vagueGM says:
TrailHead says:
VagueGM, what do you suggest I roll for this?Attacking would be the normal attack stats (STR or DEX?). But you know that your weapons are not likely to be very effective.
So I will roll +STR.
Jul 16, 2022 10:12 am
TheGenerator says:
Remember when vague said we just need 1 good roll each?Jul 16, 2022 6:29 pm
vagueGM says:
(IC) She has bought you a moment, but that gargoyle will be upon you before you can reach the treeline.I'm trying to come up with a way to stop that from happening. He might just have to take the hit.
Jul 16, 2022 6:35 pm
TheGenerator says:
So, if Albert keeps running the way he is right now, the gargoyle will definitely attack him, right?Jul 16, 2022 8:26 pm
Airshark says:
(in RP)Roald's goal is to put himself between Asha and the Gargoyles.It might be possible to help get her to the safety of the trees, especially now that you know they will completely stop the gargoyles. Maybe you can take her from Albert and allow him to get there as well, or maybe you help him carry.
If you want stand as a barrier you can do that. Sounds like a +CON roll? Remember that you only have 3 HP, and they do 1d6, but you do have 2 armour with your Toughness, so it will take a 5 to kill you.
(why won't people run away?!):
Jul 16, 2022 8:44 pm
I thought because they are that close to Albert, that it would be the only way to get them to safety. There is also the captain and Deoring being under attack. Maybe the creatures will retreat when Asha is in safety, but Roald doesn't know that for sure.
On the other hand, he DID notice that the gargoyles weren't able to get into the forest...
I'm gonna stay with what I wrote, giving Albert and Asha a chance to escape, while in the mean time being close to the captain to provide aid if needed. If it turns out badly, so be it.
Changing the fiction always feels a bit like cheating :-/
On the other hand, he DID notice that the gargoyles weren't able to get into the forest...
I'm gonna stay with what I wrote, giving Albert and Asha a chance to escape, while in the mean time being close to the captain to provide aid if needed. If it turns out badly, so be it.
Changing the fiction always feels a bit like cheating :-/
Jul 16, 2022 8:57 pm
Airshark says:
... I thought ... that it would be the only way ... Changing the fiction always feels a bit like cheating ...If you are willing to take the risk you might be able to give Albert the time he needs to get to safety. We assume the characters are not incompetent, so what they do is relatively 'reasonable'.
Airshark says:
... he DID notice that the gargoyles weren't able to get into the forest ...Airshark says:
... There is also the captain ...Airshark says:
... If it turns out badly, so be it ...Jul 17, 2022 2:16 am
I don’t think Deoring saw that the gargoyles could not enter the forest. He was too busy fighting the one gargoyle. But maybe he’ll see that now that he’s running in the direction of the group at the edge of the clearing.
Jul 17, 2022 10:28 am
TrailHead says:
I don’t think Deoring saw that the gargoyles could not enter the forest. ... maybe he’ll see that now ...What do you (the player) want to do next? You are running after the gargoyle, why? To try stop it from getting to the others? To slow it and buy them time?
Jul 18, 2022 12:28 am
vagueGM says:
TrailHead says:
I don’t think Deoring saw that the gargoyles could not enter the forest. ... maybe he’ll see that now ...vagueGM says:
What do you (the player) want to do next? You are running after the gargoyle, why? To try stop it from getting to the others? To slow it and buy them time?Jul 18, 2022 12:37 am
Cool. How do you do that? The one that knocked the captain down is closer than the one you were by, do you --somehow-- drive them together and try to get them to tangle with each other, or run and tackle that one before it can get to your friends, or something else (those were just 'off the top of my head' 'ideas')? Those --or similar-- might be +CON?
Jul 18, 2022 11:57 am
TheGenerator says:
(in RP)... he keeps putting one foot in front of the other, the slumped weight of Asha getting so heavy in his arms.Roald's roll will determine any damage you take. I will wait for that before resolving both, and Deoring's roll may become relevant if you don't make it out this 'round'.
Jul 18, 2022 1:58 pm
vagueGM says:
Maybe a +STR roll to see how well you do?[ +- ] Added my roll
It's a 6... -_- The fail streak continues
Jul 19, 2022 6:44 am
More doom.
My idea was. Maybe if Asha got to Safety, the gargoyles would lose interest in the other members of the party, so they can escape.
So Roald taking the blow might give them the chance.
A blow it is....
My idea was. Maybe if Asha got to Safety, the gargoyles would lose interest in the other members of the party, so they can escape.
So Roald taking the blow might give them the chance.
A blow it is....
Jul 19, 2022 10:59 am
Man, Albert I hope you have Armour, else we are going to have to work out what happens when you reach 0 HP. (But that will have to wait till after my meeting.)
Jul 19, 2022 11:53 am
vagueGM says:
Man, Albert I hope you have Armour, else we are going to have to work out what happens when you reach 0 HP. (But that will have to wait till after my meeting.)Jul 19, 2022 12:36 pm
TheGenerator says:
vagueGM says:
Man, Albert I hope you have Armour, else we are going to have to work out what happens when you reach 0 HP. (But that will have to wait till after my meeting.)
Jul 19, 2022 1:00 pm
TheGenerator says:
vagueGM says:
Man, Albert I hope you have Armour, else we are going to have to work out what happens when you reach 0 HP. (But that will have to wait till after my meeting.)[ +- ] Death
Btw, I have no problem with having my character die. I'll gladly start a new one :)
Jul 19, 2022 3:21 pm
TheGenerator says:
... if you roll a 6, it's your own fault ...TheGenerator says:
... didn't realize you had already rolled ...TheGenerator says:
... I have no problem with having my character die. I'll gladly start a new one ...By that measure it always feels weird to hit zero and not make it significant, so I sometimes play it that you are 'out' and healing can bring you back. Often there is a roll to see how it goes (probably +CON in this game), but it depends on the situation at hand.
Jul 19, 2022 3:22 pm
@TheGenerator:
As Albert's "Last Heroic Act", what do you think he would do (feeling his life flow from him)? Would he try to stumble himself and his patient over the 'line'? Would he try to throw 'Asha' over the line? Would he try to pass her off to someone else? Would he just lie down and die? What?
As Albert's "Last Heroic Act", what do you think he would do (feeling his life flow from him)? Would he try to stumble himself and his patient over the 'line'? Would he try to throw 'Asha' over the line? Would he try to pass her off to someone else? Would he just lie down and die? What?
Jul 19, 2022 5:46 pm
Can I have Albert collapse into a bush just at the edge of the trees? Getting Asha to relative safety, but Albert still hanging out of the shrubs from the waist down. Passed out.
Jul 19, 2022 5:53 pm
That sounds like a combination between the first two suggestions. You could roll for it. What do you think +STR or +CON?
Since it seems like you are more intent on getting 'Asha' out, that can be the minimal success outcome on a 7-9, while a 10+ could get you both just outside.
Or you can try to do it more gently and have the 7-9 be 'get her over the line without hurting her much', the 10+ be 'without any further hurt' and the only a 12+ would get you out as well.
Either way, you are out of the action afterwards. That sound good?
Since it seems like you are more intent on getting 'Asha' out, that can be the minimal success outcome on a 7-9, while a 10+ could get you both just outside.
Or you can try to do it more gently and have the 7-9 be 'get her over the line without hurting her much', the 10+ be 'without any further hurt' and the only a 12+ would get you out as well.
Either way, you are out of the action afterwards. That sound good?
Jul 20, 2022 3:21 am
We are all doomed apparently.
Sorry my posts have been a bit sporadic lately. My department at work has a big annual deadline this Friday that we’ve been working on and it’s cutting into my free time. I’ve tried to keep up here and in the Traveller game, but logging in today I was appalled to realize it had been three days since my last posts. Yikes. My apologies. I hope to get back on a regular posting schedule after this week.
Sorry my posts have been a bit sporadic lately. My department at work has a big annual deadline this Friday that we’ve been working on and it’s cutting into my free time. I’ve tried to keep up here and in the Traveller game, but logging in today I was appalled to realize it had been three days since my last posts. Yikes. My apologies. I hope to get back on a regular posting schedule after this week.
Jul 20, 2022 6:49 am
TrailHead says:
We are all doomed apparently.TrailHead says:
Sorry my posts have been a bit sporadic lately.Good luck with the deadline!
Jul 20, 2022 11:29 am
TrailHead says:
... it had been three days since my last posts. Yikes. My apologies. ...As you see, we can still manage to keep things moving, having some separation between the characters helps a lot to insulate us from other's delays.
Jul 20, 2022 11:29 am
TrailHead says:
(in RP)DEX for running? STR for helping the Captain stay upright? CON for enduring the gargoyle flank attacks?Since you are hardpressed to post, maybe toss them all, and we can interpret them as you suggested above as they other players play out the scene.
What would Deoring's main focus be? Getting himself out? Getting the captain out (how chivalrous)? Getting both out (no one left behind (also known as "if one dies we all die"))?
Jul 21, 2022 12:09 pm
Airshark says:
(in RP)... Casually the creature pushes Roald aside, as if he wasn't there. ...They were more or less ignoring the rest of you. But since the ritual started they are now turning their attention back, so that won't be the case going forward.
Airshark says:
... dice roll ...Airshark says:
... maybe multiple roles are necessary? I mean, if you really want to end the adventure ...One roll will do.
Airshark says:
... grabs Asha and pulls her towards the treeline ... dex for sneaking, or str for pulling Asha, or con for digging deep ...If you take the blow a Partial Success will get 'Asha' over the line, at least. Deoring may have to get you over the line.
Jul 22, 2022 10:09 am
vagueGM says:
I dig that interpretation of the -1 damage. :)
vagueGM says:
Nice! Finally a success!
vagueGM says:
It will depend on what your main intent is. When the gargoyle --now chasing you-- swings at you two, are you trying to pull 'Asha' or trying to protect her? If pulling her behind you, they will strike at her body, if you are protecting her, they will strike at you to try to stop you. The ritual gargoyle will rejoin the fight, so it will be 1d6+1 (better than 2d6:) and who knows what the blue light will do when you enter it (actually I do, but that answer comes much later:).
The best thing (logically) would be to protect Asha, since that is the whole goal of this action. BUT, I don't see roald doing all these evasive moves AND also place himself between Asha and the looming gargoyle. my intent was to grab her under her armpits and drag her to the treeline, or by her hands so it is possible to walk forward. In both cases she is first in line to get hit.
sorry...
vagueGM says:
If you take the blow a Partial Success will get 'Asha' over the line, at least. Deoring may have to get you over the line.
Jul 22, 2022 1:34 pm
Airshark says:
... I don"t recall the part of the -1 damage ...Airshark says:
... Also wondering if you are being sarcastic or not ...Airshark says:
... Sarcasm, definetely sarcasm ...The logical 'price' is for the gargoyles to keep doing what they are trying to do (in a way it is a Partial Success for them too:) so damage to you, or whatever it takes to prevent 'Asha' getting away.
• Do you see a different consequence that you would prefer? I am open to it.
Airshark says:
... Actually, I was hoping to get us both over the line. ...Airshark says:
... she is first in line to get hit ...If she 'takes the hit' I will roll the die of fate to see how it goes (and don't worry I do know that low is 'bad').
Airshark says:
... Who will pick up Deoring though ...Jul 22, 2022 7:17 pm
You guys were thinking 0 HP would keep me from posting in the RP thread, right? HA! Think again!
Jul 23, 2022 3:41 am
Asha takes the hit.
There is also the matter of the blue light. Maybe the consequences will reveal themselves in time.
There is also the matter of the blue light. Maybe the consequences will reveal themselves in time.
Jul 23, 2022 3:49 am
OK. Let's see what the Die of Fate has to say. Hopefully we don't get middle-of-the-road results (we want it to say something).
Rolls
Die of Fate - (1d6)
(3) = 3
Jul 23, 2022 4:23 am
Yes, as mentioned in my post above, I do know that the 3 is a 'bad' outcome. While it might not clear yet, why, that is what you got. But it may take time before we see why. :)
Jul 23, 2022 4:28 am
@TheGenerator: I assume you want us to try to save Albert?
The gargoyles don't seem to be paying you any attention, but who knows what if that will change if someone tries to remove your body from their demesne.
Even if they can get into the woods, you are not out of the woods yet. They will have first aid your wounds, and then you will have to make roll to see if you get any HP back on you own (rest and a meal (broth for you) would be required) or if you also need medical attention.
The gargoyles don't seem to be paying you any attention, but who knows what if that will change if someone tries to remove your body from their demesne.
Even if they can get into the woods, you are not out of the woods yet. They will have first aid your wounds, and then you will have to make roll to see if you get any HP back on you own (rest and a meal (broth for you) would be required) or if you also need medical attention.
Jul 23, 2022 4:32 am
@TrailHead: Things may be resolved before you need to make those roles we spoke about. Take a look at the new situation when you get back, and tell us (OOC) what you want to do next. Then we can work things out, possibly eliding Deoring's actions.
Jul 23, 2022 8:53 am
vagueGM says:
: I assume you want us to try to save Albert?I'm fine either way :)
If a future roll causes Albert to die. So be it.
Jul 23, 2022 8:55 am
I just wanted to add some flavor to the story instead of waiting for a week or more ;)
Jul 23, 2022 7:44 pm
vagueGM says:
@TrailHead: Things may be resolved before you need to make those roles we spoke about. Take a look at the new situation when you get back, and tell us (OOC) what you want to do next. Then we can work things out, possibly eliding Deoring's actions.He will, however, feel pulled to go to Albert’s aid instead, when they get close enough to see that he is knocked out and vulnerable to the gargoyles. Albert is the one, after all, who helped him during the fight with the giant centipede and showed him the light of Raynor. It may depend on how well the Captain can walk on her own and if the gargoyles attack them.
Jul 23, 2022 7:45 pm
And Deoring may also feel compelled to aid Roald, if need be. There’s a lot of us who need to get to the safety of the woods.
Jul 23, 2022 8:11 pm
TrailHead says:
... compelled to aid Roald, if need be ...TrailHead says:
... motivated to try to impress the Captain ...If you intimidate them and stride in like you own the place, that will impress her.
If you 'show leadership potential' and organise your companion to help (don't tell him I said anything, but Albert is not exactly 'light':), that might impress her.
All that, in whatever bits you use or don't use, sounds like +CHA, since your aim is to impress?
TrailHead says:
... depend on how well the Captain can walk on her own ...TrailHead says:
... and if the gargoyles attack them ...Jul 26, 2022 5:24 am
Well Deoring is a try-hard, but maybe not quite leadership material. At least, not yet. If he gets lucky enough to grow up a little, maybe. And I'm still holding out hope that he and Roald can somehow save Albert.
Jul 26, 2022 5:48 am
TrailHead says:
... I'm still holding out hope that he and Roald can somehow save Albert.Jul 27, 2022 3:16 am
vagueGM says:
Airshark says:
... they stand like statues ...Jul 27, 2022 4:58 am
A mainly narrative dooming, this time. Feel free to play it up as much or as little as you want in to coming weeks.
If this is a new thing, then it might be a sign that you are getting older, but if you want it could also be an old or existing injury.
With these things it is really hard tell exactly where the pain originates from, so feel free to make it any part of your body.
If this is a new thing, then it might be a sign that you are getting older, but if you want it could also be an old or existing injury.
With these things it is really hard tell exactly where the pain originates from, so feel free to make it any part of your body.
Jul 27, 2022 5:34 am
• Where are you planning on taking your injured patient?
The town your PCs started from is more than a days ride away, and you don't have any horses. There was talk of a village, is that a known place that you can relatively reliably make you way to, or do you need to go searching (i.e. do we play out the search or jump you to there)?
If a village: What trouble are they facing that you need to fix for them? You are welcome to look at something like the Ironsworn Settlement Trouble Oracle or any other to give you inspiration, or just say the first things that come to your minds. I will work these ideas into the reality.
This is an out of character thing. Don't worry, here, about what your characters know or expect. It is about what we (the players) want to do next.
The town your PCs started from is more than a days ride away, and you don't have any horses. There was talk of a village, is that a known place that you can relatively reliably make you way to, or do you need to go searching (i.e. do we play out the search or jump you to there)?
If a village: What trouble are they facing that you need to fix for them? You are welcome to look at something like the Ironsworn Settlement Trouble Oracle or any other to give you inspiration, or just say the first things that come to your minds. I will work these ideas into the reality.
This is an out of character thing. Don't worry, here, about what your characters know or expect. It is about what we (the players) want to do next.
Jul 27, 2022 6:50 am
vagueGM says:
Where are you planning on taking your injured patient?Jul 27, 2022 7:01 am
TheGenerator says:
... My idea was to go to the bandit camp where Albert joined the group. There might be medical supplies there.But then what? None of you are 'healers', so do you hope the bandits will help? Wherever you go, there will be a problem you need to solve in order for them to be able to help. You will need to do that first before you can just come back here --price for bad rolls, and all. What that next quest is is open to player input.
But, and this is a secret, if you can get Ahsa sufficient treatment, once you have dealt with the 'payment quest', and on top of whatever reward that gives, there will also be a surprise reward equivalent to 1 Level (1000 silver), and some information to help with the temple.
Jul 27, 2022 7:23 am
vagueGM says:
Very unlikely. More likely to be bandits there.Hmm, injured as we all are, it'll be tough to travel a long distance. Maybe somebody knows a druid in the area?
Hope you don't mind me throwing in some of Albert's mind's fabrications (or are they? ;) ). I thought it would be fun to add :)
Feel free to add to them if you feel like it.
Jul 27, 2022 7:47 am
TheGenerator says:
... I thought it was abandoned last time we were there ...TheGenerator says:
... it'll be tough to travel a long distance ...We should decide what the next chapter will be, then we will just make it happen.
TheGenerator says:
... Maybe somebody knows a druid in the area? ...TheGenerator says:
... Hope you don't mind me throwing in some of Albert's mind's fabrications ...TheGenerator says:
... (or are they? ;) ...Jul 29, 2022 4:43 am
I really don’t know where to take Asha or who might be able to help Albert. I didn’t join the game and story until the characters were already in the temple. I skimmed through some of the previous posts when I joined but don’t have a good mental picture of the places outside of the temple or the people to be found there.
I’m going to have to follow Airshark’s and The Generator’s leads on this.
I’m going to have to follow Airshark’s and The Generator’s leads on this.
Jul 29, 2022 4:55 am
None of us know anything more about the world. We can just make something up and turn that real.
If no one has any ideas I can just create a village close enough for you to get to after a rest.
What sort of problem are they having that the PCs need to solve for them? In other words, what do the players feel like facing next?
Maybe something boring and simple like the displaced bandits? Maybe something complex and consequential like --I don't know-- a rogue wizard, doing experiments? Just as two examples.
Whatever it is, you can also say how much time you want to spend on it (roughly; like: "quick", "epic", "whatever", "we'll see"). You can --possibly, if you want-- get back here to the temple afterwards, or find you need to spend more time (leveling up and researching) and leave it for much later. It is up to the players, the world will shape itself around what we feel like.
If no one has any ideas I can just create a village close enough for you to get to after a rest.
What sort of problem are they having that the PCs need to solve for them? In other words, what do the players feel like facing next?
Maybe something boring and simple like the displaced bandits? Maybe something complex and consequential like --I don't know-- a rogue wizard, doing experiments? Just as two examples.
Whatever it is, you can also say how much time you want to spend on it (roughly; like: "quick", "epic", "whatever", "we'll see"). You can --possibly, if you want-- get back here to the temple afterwards, or find you need to spend more time (leveling up and researching) and leave it for much later. It is up to the players, the world will shape itself around what we feel like.
Jul 29, 2022 7:59 am
The first question is: Do we want to go back to the temple? (probably without Asha and the Captain)
All of us has a vision of something we desired deep down in the temple, right? So we do have a good reason to go there.
I really like this idea.
If we could find someone with knowledge of the temple or some books about it, that might make it a lot easier and faster.
If we want to get back to the temple ASAP, we can do something like this:
What if, while leaving, we stumble upon another group of people (some settlement or camp) who are also looking for the temple? They could have medical supplies, knowledge about the temple and some people willing to join us on our way back to the temple. Since we've been there, we would be useful to them as well.
If we want there to be an extra problem that we can solve, we can do that too.
I'm not sure what to do with Albert. I see 3 ways it can go:
1. He dies (this is something the dice will decide)
2. He lives and still worships Raynor
3. He lives and now hates Raynor
I think option 3 could be interesting, but also annoying. Because Roald and Deoring have hopped onto the Raynor band wagon now. So if Albert stops believing, that might cause internal struggles.
Does anyone have a preference between 2 or 3? I'm willing to pick the one that fits best in our story.
However, if we don't (intend to) go back to the temple and Albert still worships Raynor, that might be an issue. Albert would be forsaking his promise to Raynor.
@vagueGM: Do you have plans for us concerning 'Ahsa'?
From what I've gathered IC, I think the entity in the crystals either corrupted her or is hijacking her body in some way. That's why the gargoyles attacked her, right? Trying to keep 'it' inside the temple. (Though, Albert has no idea about this)
Should we turn our focus to that story?
All of us has a vision of something we desired deep down in the temple, right? So we do have a good reason to go there.
vagueGM says:
spend more time (leveling up and researching) and leave it for much later.If we could find someone with knowledge of the temple or some books about it, that might make it a lot easier and faster.
If we want to get back to the temple ASAP, we can do something like this:
What if, while leaving, we stumble upon another group of people (some settlement or camp) who are also looking for the temple? They could have medical supplies, knowledge about the temple and some people willing to join us on our way back to the temple. Since we've been there, we would be useful to them as well.
If we want there to be an extra problem that we can solve, we can do that too.
I'm not sure what to do with Albert. I see 3 ways it can go:
1. He dies (this is something the dice will decide)
2. He lives and still worships Raynor
3. He lives and now hates Raynor
I think option 3 could be interesting, but also annoying. Because Roald and Deoring have hopped onto the Raynor band wagon now. So if Albert stops believing, that might cause internal struggles.
Does anyone have a preference between 2 or 3? I'm willing to pick the one that fits best in our story.
However, if we don't (intend to) go back to the temple and Albert still worships Raynor, that might be an issue. Albert would be forsaking his promise to Raynor.
@vagueGM: Do you have plans for us concerning 'Ahsa'?
From what I've gathered IC, I think the entity in the crystals either corrupted her or is hijacking her body in some way. That's why the gargoyles attacked her, right? Trying to keep 'it' inside the temple. (Though, Albert has no idea about this)
Should we turn our focus to that story?
Jul 29, 2022 8:50 am
TheGenerator says:
... Do we want to go back to the temple? ...TheGenerator says:
... probably without Asha and the Captain ...TheGenerator says:
... All of us has a vision of something we desired deep down in the temple, right? ...Remind what we each had (if we had anything)?
Albert had something about his aunt, but it is unclear to me how that actually is a thing 'down there'. (see below)
TheGenerator says:
... If we could find someone with knowledge of the temple or some books about it ...I keep thinking around the idea of Albert's aunt actually knowing something. What are the chances --unbeknownst to Albert-- that she is/was an adventurer, and that she went down there and needs you to find her? The latter seems like a stretch, but is easy enough to shove into the story. It may be more likely that she is a researcher and there will be information in her letters --maybe some that have not been delivered yet-- that sheds some light. If you are interested in this line, then the captain's clue could lead to that.
TheGenerator says:
... If we want to get back to the temple ASAP, ...TheGenerator says:
... stumble upon another group ... also looking for the temple ... knowledge about the temple and some people willing to join us ...You can always get some money and hire some hirelings to fill this roll if you want to have the PCs as the driving force organising this rather than being helpers tagging along on someone else's quest. Raynor would probably like that, it is very conquesty.
TheGenerator says:
... I'm not sure what to do with Albert. ...Unless you want him to die, he will survive.
TheGenerator says:
... Albert would be forsaking his promise to Raynor ...TheGenerator says:
... I think option 3 could be interesting ...It also does not need to be permanent. Maybe you lose your faith for a while and your companions eventually talk you back round to it? At which point you renew your vow and come back to the temple with a vengeance?
That which is lost can be found.
TheGenerator says:
... Do you have plans for us concerning 'Ahsa'? ...If the players don't grab that hook this storyline can fade, (and possibly coming back later?).
TheGenerator says:
... I think the entity in the crystals either corrupted her or is hijacking her ... gargoyles attacked her, right? Trying to keep 'it' inside ...TheGenerator says:
... Though, Albert has no idea about this ...Jul 29, 2022 11:15 am
vagueGM says:
I keep thinking around the idea of Albert's aunt actually knowing something... maybe some letters that have not been delivered yetvagueGM says:
Seems a bit incongruous and convenient.vagueGM says:
thegenerator says:
... Albert would be forsaking his promise to Raynor ...In which case I do think it would be considered forsaking it.
But if we do want to do that way, this 'dream' that Albert is having right now could be a way to reassure him that Raynor is okay with that decision.
vagueGM says:
vague plans. It all depends on what happens nextIf you want us to pursue a certain story track, feel free to say so as well. It's as much your show as it is ours :)
I'd feel bad if we were to abandon every story you throw at us before we even find out what it is.
Jul 29, 2022 11:54 am
TheGenerator says:
... But if we want to handle it quickly and move on ...Immediately going right back sorta short-circuits the consequences that forced you to leave. It feels like there should be some impediment to your getting back to this quest, as part of the price. But, if the players are not into that, we can downplay such consequences or shift their nature.
TheGenerator says:
... if we're not planning on coming back to the temple ...TheGenerator says:
... this 'dream' ... a way to reassure him that Raynor is okay with that decision ...But remember, we, the players, can also say how much time we want to spend on it. So, if it comes to it, we can say we want to 'quickly resolve the temple problem offscreen' or something. That way we can go on with other stuff and not lose face with our gods. I don't recommend that amount of shortening, but we also don't want to have to play out a scenario we are no longer interested in. If we want it done quickly we could decide that it is one more big confrontation and then it is done, maybe go away and prepare and then come back in force. That way we don't abandon it, but also don't need to spend too much time on it. I don't mind at all either way.
TheGenerator says:
... your plans are vague plans ...TheGenerator says:
... If you want us to pursue a certain story track, feel free to say so as well ...TheGenerator says:
... I'd feel bad if we were to abandon every story ...Jul 29, 2022 11:54 am
So, the question is: Is there anything anyone thinks would be interesting to explore? Possibly as a palate cleanser before going back (or planning to).
As further examples as I write: Politics or intrigue in a 'nearby' town or monastery if we don't want to go out and engage in action and want to give our characters time to recover. Or something else.
As further examples as I write: Politics or intrigue in a 'nearby' town or monastery if we don't want to go out and engage in action and want to give our characters time to recover. Or something else.
Jul 29, 2022 1:32 pm
OOC:
Airshark and TrailHead when they open this thread: "Damnit, how do vague and Gen manage to write a whole book while I was gone?"Jul 30, 2022 11:16 am
TheGenerator says:
OOC:
Airshark and TrailHead when they open this thread: "Damnit, how do vague and Gen manage to write a whole book while I was gone?"I'll keep it short.
If Albert loses his faith (fate?) I would presume we would talk him back into it.
Going back to the Temple: yes, but we need to lick our wounds. At this point Roald does not want to go back, he barely escaped with his skin on his back. So going back is something that needs to grow. Like when you're on a long vacation and want to go home the last week.
So maybe we can do an intermezzo/pallet cleanser, find information on how to get rid of the evil in the Temple, and go back in a few weeks. (In game weeks)
Jul 30, 2022 11:27 am
Airshark says:
... Roald does not want to go back ...Airshark says:
... going back is something that needs to grow ...Airshark says:
... and go back in a few weeks ...Airshark says:
... maybe we can do an intermezzo ...Jul 30, 2022 12:35 pm
If Asha keeps acting weird, that could be a mission.
Or will the npc's stop being part of the party.
Or will the npc's stop being part of the party.
Jul 30, 2022 12:51 pm
Airshark says:
... If Asha keeps acting weird, that could be a mission. ...Airshark says:
... Or will the npc's stop being part of the party. ...The captain really needs to get back to her duties as the captain of the guard of the caravan, but she could possibly be persuaded to stay and help take care of the temple if the characters' plan is to get to that quickly (our plans don't need to be the same as the naive characters' plan, we are experienced adventurers and know how chaotically these things go:).
If you want other/more NPCs you can try to find some to 'hire' or persuade to come with you or whatever. You can decide what sort of people you want to have around and we can look at making that happen. They don't need to be the sorts of people your characters would want to ally with.
Aug 1, 2022 8:18 am
Airshark says:
(in RP)... I think I can already hear some water trickling ...OOC:
Probably Roald's wishful imaginationAug 1, 2022 8:18 am
Our real question is if we push on right away, and where we push to. Once I know roughly what the players want I can make the next thing happen.
Aug 1, 2022 9:41 am
vagueGM says:
Our real question is if we push on right away, and where we push to. Once I know roughly what the players want I can make the next thing happen.Or is that not what you mean?
Aug 1, 2022 10:06 am
TheGenerator says:
... Or is that not what you mean? ...TheGenerator says:
... roll for stabilizing Asha ...TheGenerator says:
... If she's stable we can take it slow ...But it is a complex set of choices. If you rest you can give Albert time to get back on his feet, then he can try divine-healing on those he has not tried yet (which will tell us something about how Raynor feels). If you leave right away you will need to deal with carrying two patients between three characters, so that will be hard and risky as well.
I don't plan on having anyone die as a result of this choice, and the characters don't know enough to make 'the best choice', so it is about what players want do try.
Personally I would recommend resting and trying to get Albert up, so doing a bit of foraging or hunting is almost no cost (unless you roll a 6- and have a consequence:). Then I would probably recommend just getting to a 'nearby village' and taking it from there, but I don't want to skip over that journey or process if people are interested in it.
After we get there we will need to come up with the problem that needs solving, but I can roll some oracle dice if no one suggests anything.
I don't think we should wait for TrailHead, I assume their work is still rolling 6-s (or is it the other way round?). They can catch up when they can.
@TheGenerator and @Airshark: answer will need to come from you two.
Aug 1, 2022 10:35 am
In my opinion.
- Get Albert up
- Make a sled
- Find a village
- forage on the way there.
- the sled will go slow, so it may be possible to let someone forage while the others push (pull) on. This will give us both distance and food before we make camp for the night.
- Get Albert up
- Make a sled
- Find a village
- forage on the way there.
- the sled will go slow, so it may be possible to let someone forage while the others push (pull) on. This will give us both distance and food before we make camp for the night.
Aug 1, 2022 10:38 am
-Find a village:
* Look for a natural vantage point or climb a tree. Is it wise to climb the temple tower? (retorical question)
* Maybe there is a path through the trees that leeds to a village.
* It doens't have to be a village, a lonely healer in a cabin could suffice.
* Look for a natural vantage point or climb a tree. Is it wise to climb the temple tower? (retorical question)
* Maybe there is a path through the trees that leeds to a village.
* It doens't have to be a village, a lonely healer in a cabin could suffice.
Aug 1, 2022 10:45 am
Airshark says:
- Get Albert up- Make a sled
- Find a village
- forage on the way there.
- the sled will go slow, so it may be possible to let someone forage while the others push (pull) on. This will give us both distance and food before we make camp for the night.
As for where we're going. I'd like to do some research on the temple. Either through books or finding a contact. I guess we'd need to find a big enough city for that. Which seems unlikely to be nearby. So, I think we should find some village nearby for now and get our strength back.
I hope that answers the question. I'm still a bit unclear on what exactly you need an answer to. (Sorry :D)
Aug 1, 2022 10:59 am
That works.
By the rules the way to 'get Albert up' is to regain some HP, which ideally needs rest and food and water:
You have 1 Hit Die (d6) + extra hit dice equal to your CON. Roll all your hit dice and keep a number equal to your level to determine your HP. When you rest and consume a ration/waterskin/wineskin, you may re-roll your HP. If you are attended by a healer, roll an extra hit die.But water can do the trick (to a lesser degree?) and Albert can get his rest while being pulled on a sled.
So, if we want to make haste we can make two sleds (travois, probably) and foraging as you go. We can toss some dice (+WIS?) to see how happy you all are when you get to the village.
Roald can maybe toss a Survival roll in the existing post or make a new one, and Albert can roll his HP and we can adjust that based on all the factors.
I will look at our next challenge when I get to a machine with oracles on it.
By the rules the way to 'get Albert up' is to regain some HP, which ideally needs rest and food and water:
Quote:
Hit DiceYou have 1 Hit Die (d6) + extra hit dice equal to your CON. Roll all your hit dice and keep a number equal to your level to determine your HP. When you rest and consume a ration/waterskin/wineskin, you may re-roll your HP. If you are attended by a healer, roll an extra hit die.
So, if we want to make haste we can make two sleds (travois, probably) and foraging as you go. We can toss some dice (+WIS?) to see how happy you all are when you get to the village.
Roald can maybe toss a Survival roll in the existing post or make a new one, and Albert can roll his HP and we can adjust that based on all the factors.
I will look at our next challenge when I get to a machine with oracles on it.
Aug 1, 2022 11:17 am
vagueGM says:
a machine with oracles on it.Aug 1, 2022 11:44 am
OK. That gave me: Roll Twice, then In the Crossfire, and another one that I will keep secret while you deal with the first (but the second one had me roll on Character Goal and Descriptor too, if that is a hint).
I will only get to this 'tomorrow' (need those rolls, anyway). And I may change it up when that time comes or if someone has other ideas.
I will only get to this 'tomorrow' (need those rolls, anyway). And I may change it up when that time comes or if someone has other ideas.
Aug 1, 2022 3:31 pm
Survival roll
+ Con: because we are weak and tired
+ Wis/Int: to 'read' the forest
+ Cha: when I ask a stray deer for the right direction 😬
Other suggestions?
+ Con: because we are weak and tired
+ Wis/Int: to 'read' the forest
+ Cha: when I ask a stray deer for the right direction 😬
Other suggestions?
Last edited August 1, 2022 3:31 pm
Aug 1, 2022 3:38 pm
Not sure how your CON can help everyone. :)
Traditionally 'Survival' is +WIS, which makes sense for looking for food, but +INT could work too if it was more about 'knowing' how to than about 'finding'.
If you are focused on moving as fast as you can with the burden of the stretchers, then +STR also works.
Traditionally 'Survival' is +WIS, which makes sense for looking for food, but +INT could work too if it was more about 'knowing' how to than about 'finding'.
If you are focused on moving as fast as you can with the burden of the stretchers, then +STR also works.
Aug 6, 2022 2:22 pm
VagueGM, Airshark and The Generator - Sorry I have been missing for so long. Work and family obligations have been filling my days from early morning to late at night. I’ve been meaning to post something for a while. I finally have a moment to write you this morning at the supermarket as I await delivery of my groceries to my car. I don’t foresee a change in my schedule anytime soon. So, with regret, I feel I must withdraw from the game. Thanks for being so welcoming to me. This was my first PbP and I had a lot of fun with it. Best regards, TrailHead
Aug 6, 2022 5:19 pm
Aww :(
Sorry to hear that @TrailHead. Wish you all the best with the busy times. Hope to see you again, it was a pleasure!
Sorry to hear that @TrailHead. Wish you all the best with the busy times. Hope to see you again, it was a pleasure!
Aug 6, 2022 8:26 pm
Hate to see you leave man. I think I speak for all of us when I say that when things settle down, hopefully you'll find your way back here.
Take care!
Take care!