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Sep 6, 2022 6:59 pm
Pedrop says:
But I would consider Foraging rolls to be made automatically by GM for everyone in one post as... I'm not sure if my creativity is so big that I will be able to narrate NOT catching rabbits for 5th time in a row... In any interesting way😀 Not even thinking about 10th time... 😀
This is a fair point... Perhaps we should combine Foraging and Courage into one to help speed that up/take away the need to 'describe' foraging? If people want to, they can. But otherwise it can be as simple as "Gisela returns to the camp, no rabbits to her name" followed by talking about songs, poems, ending the day, etc.

Personally I'd prefer that to the GM rolling automatically for all of us, as... well... I like rolling for myself, even digitally. I'm sad that way. ;)

So that revised section would be:

4. Foraging and Courage: We all make a post where we confirm the results of our attempts at foraging and then gather in the dim dark... Everyone gets a chance this way to make at least one post where we can discuss the events of the day, our character's state and take courage with tales, poems, songs or food.

We know this phase is done once everyone has posted at least once, and we each have a post where we indicate our character is going to retire for the night or similar.

Of course, if more people would find it quicker and easier for tibbius to just roll foraging for us, It's not a hill I'll die on!
Sep 6, 2022 7:00 pm
WalrusKing says:
Glad it's helped and people like!

If everyone's happy with it, I second Pedrop's suggestion - a separate "Game Structure" thread with nothing but the game structure as a post would be useful. Tibbius, if you want to just copy and paste my write-up and then we can have that available for you to edit should you get new ideas/other people suggest something alternate that we all like!
Good I will make new thread.
Sep 6, 2022 8:34 pm
WalrusKing says:

Personally I'd prefer that to the GM rolling automatically for all of us, as... well... I like rolling for myself, even digitally. I'm sad that way. ;)

So that revised section would be:

4. Foraging and Courage: We all make a post where we confirm the results of our attempts at foraging and then gather in the dim dark... Everyone gets a chance this way to make at least one post where we can discuss the events of the day, our character's state and take courage with tales, poems, songs or food.

We know this phase is done once everyone has posted at least once, and we each have a post where we indicate our character is going to retire for the night or similar.

This is good. My aim was mainly to make it faster - not to wait for every "rabbit roll":) and not to expect everyone to write something about it. Combining it with Courage makes it very good middle way for everyone. You can roll for your rabbits - yourself. ( I understand that you don't want to handle your rabbits to someone else - I really do:D ) You can describe in every little detail how those damn rabbits escaped AGAIN from your trap - that you were preparing for whole day, taking into account every possibility there is, doing it for the 50th time... But: You don't have to:)

To be clear: I'm not against any interesting descriptions about someone's hunting adventures if they like to make one - I'm just mocking my last roll and my inability to make interesting descriptions for the same thing after n-th time. Especially that - in my case - it probably wouldn't move action forward even a bit. Just my strange sense of humor... :)
Sep 7, 2022 2:01 am
I will adjust the Game Sequence.
Sep 7, 2022 2:52 am
Pedrop says:

This is good. My aim was mainly to make it faster - not to wait for every "rabbit roll":) and not to expect everyone to write something about it. Combining it with Courage makes it very good middle way for everyone. You can roll for your rabbits - yourself. ( I understand that you don't want to handle your rabbits to someone else - I really do:D ) You can describe in every little detail how those damn rabbits escaped AGAIN from your trap - that you were preparing for whole day, taking into account every possibility there is, doing it for the 50th time... But: You don't have to:)

To be clear: I'm not against any interesting descriptions about someone's hunting adventures if they like to make one - I'm just mocking my last roll and my inability to make interesting descriptions for the same thing after n-th time. Especially that - in my case - it probably wouldn't move action forward even a bit. Just my strange sense of humor... :)
Your humour came through loud and clear no worries! 🙂 But a good point is a good point regardless! This way no one feels forced to detail a lack of rabbits over and over.... 😄
Sep 7, 2022 4:18 am
When there's a bear to wrestle Ulfheddin will leave camp. Until then hes camp steward.
Sep 8, 2022 12:19 am
The Sustenance die has rolled a 1. It remains to narrate the ways in which your supplies will dwindle. Perhaps some great feat could overcome this run of luck.
Sep 8, 2022 1:13 am
tibbius says:
The Sustenance die has rolled a 1. It remains to narrate the ways in which your supplies will dwindle. Perhaps some great feat could overcome this run of luck.
Yes we have had miserable rolls
Sep 8, 2022 4:14 am
Sorry to meta game here Talayan is quite strong and would love using her strength to do something useful instead of building boulder cairns of frustration in camp if Eldar makes it back to camp and tell his tale of his two kills :-)
Sep 8, 2022 9:34 am
Of course, if Eldar couldn't pull the whole thing by himself, he would go to the camp for help straight away, no time to waste.
And if he knew he CAN'T go for help (the camp is too far away, or something else) he would butcher it right away (including drying the blood by hanging the meat-cuts from a tree since he doesn't want blood stains in his backpack) and secure around 20kg of meat (which he can put in his backpack even if he walks slower than usual) and the hide of one ram (the weight here is way lower than meat). Of the second ram (if time allows and he feels he can carry it, he would only cut the hide). Both hides could later be used for cloaks or to barter with merchants or lords.
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Sep 8, 2022 10:35 am
I think you have deleted something from your last post? Or I've started to imagine things? (probably because of all those rabbits...)
Either way: I think someone have written something about role-playing foraging, no?
If yes: personally, I have such a suspicion... that we started to roleplay it because... well... there is nothing else to do in this campaign... so far.
I propose for some time from now on we should withdraw to only rolling for it. And only RP it when we will be prompted by GM.

Let's move already to interesting things: exploring, encounters, internal camp relations(which are possible only when something will be happening...) and to do the foraging: the Barbarian Prince way. Please.

Maybe we even should skip Take Courage step(from our structure) if there won't be any encounters AND we won't move?

What do You Guys think?

I will write my PhD about rabbit traps later... ok? :)
Sep 8, 2022 12:22 pm
I think we will find that delving the details of Eldar's hunting trip, and its aftermath, can lead to interesting developments of internal camp relations.
Sep 8, 2022 6:40 pm
A little info about preserving meat as jerky

- you need to cut it thin (4-8 mm thick).
- you need prolonged low heat (smoky fire for 6-8 hours).

Making 40 kg jerky will take about two days, or a sleepless 24 hours, during which you can feast on some of what you're making.

- salt will make it last longer and dry quicker. You don't have salt.

I rolled a "1" for the Sustenance die, which could represent some things going wrong with the jerky-making process, so that you don't end up getting good provisions from Eldar's kill. This is not implausible. Properly curing meat, without resort to a modern kitchen, takes considerable skill - and a bit of luck. Anything from a rain storm, to a lack of fuel, to cutting the strips too thick, can lead to spoiled jerky.
Sep 8, 2022 6:42 pm
tibbius says:
I rolled a "1" for the Sustenance die, which could represent some things going wrong with the jerky-making process, so that you don't end up getting good provisions from Eldar's kill. This is not implausible. Properly curing meat, without resort to a modern kitchen, takes considerable skill - and a bit of luck. Anything from a rain storm, to a lack of fuel, to cutting the strips too thick, can lead to spoiled jerky.
Since the "1" established that your provisions dwindle, rather than increasing, I will leave it up to one of you to narrate what happens to ruin what seemed like a great bit of luck and hard work.
Sep 8, 2022 7:16 pm
My PC is definitely not hunting again, I don't think we can have both rolling for specific actions during RP, and rolling for general result.

Let's just say we never find the rams when we went back to get them to the camp. And roll dice for provisions next times.

Edit: Just to be clear: As a player I'm not angry nor ironic. I do understand that these kind of misunderstandings happen as we are yet to finish polishing the rules we are using. I didn't expect for the PC to be that LUCKY to be able to kill 80kg worth of meat in the first hunt!

Edit 2: Also, I didn't know of Barbarian Prince before, so I'm thankful with Tibbius for sharing it with us.
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Sep 8, 2022 8:10 pm
Cathamber says:
My PC is definitely not hunting again, I don't think we can have both rolling for specific actions during RP, and rolling for general result.
I agree! Let's say, instead, the following:

4. Foraging: We declare whether we are foraging or doing something else to maintain the camp. If we are foraging, we make a roll for that. We can roll 3d6 if we have shooting or surviving; 2d6 if we have the foraging trait but not one of those skills; or 1d6 otherwise.

We know this phase is done once everyone has posted their action and roll. Then Tibbius wraps up any loose ends of foraging and (generally) we all return to camp.
Sep 9, 2022 7:31 am
So we are discarding WalrusKing proposition of combining "4. Foraging and Courage" into one move? Like in the top of this thread's page? I think it was really good idea - and would make things faster and would correspond what you have written here.
Sep 9, 2022 8:31 am
Pedrop says:
So we are discarding WalrusKing proposition of combining "4. Foraging and Courage" into one move? Like in the top of this thread's page? I think it was really good idea - and would make things faster and would correspond what you have written here.
I agree with you both.
Sep 9, 2022 1:27 pm
In the logic of the Sustenance roll, Foraging needs to happen before that. We could nevertheless combine Foraging and Courage, then roll Sustenance as suggested by WalrusKing. Let's do that, going forward.
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