The Other Baron (OOC)

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What purpose did we give, some ideas:

- News of the raid at the other side of the valley
- honesty: we are trying to work out a treaty between the 3 parties
- We are looking for a girl
- news of a starting rebellion
- adventurers looking for a job/quest
- ...

anyone with better ideas?

I think this is a good idea. It makes us somewhat useful to the baron, and we can shift the conversation to the other topics.

We could also rat out the resistance. That might get us in faster. But I don't think we're that kind of people, right?

Let's see if Norbert is also waiting patiently, if so the baron will eventually show up and you can talk in whatever direction you choose.

Hehe, yeah. A bit less waiting and a bit more walking than shepherding, but, so far, not what the stories promised. :)

The Deception Skill will only really help you with the deception part, not the negotiation part, but, since we know you can not completely fail at the deception (which would bar you from negotiating) maybe a single +CHA roll will do for both?

In this case (and not at all because you guys have been bullying me about not letting you roll) it might be more appropriate to first do a pure deception roll to determine if your story is believable (he might have people who where there and saw you 'being neutral'). Due to the Skill it can not simply 'fail', but there could still be costs that change the way forward. Depending on that outcome, and what you are wanting from him (the RP post was mainly about the lie) someone might need to make more moves.

I agree with that. I think the negotiation roll can wait until we have a more specific price. Or maybe the baron will make an offer before we set one.

The dice have gone back to hating me :(

I'll wait to see if either Airshark or Fossball want to step in at this point :)

How forceful is Albert being about wanting to come to an agreement before you tell the baron stuff?

He has suggested that he has 'stuff you ('adventurers') would want', which might be better than money, if you push too much he might end up agreeing to pay money and you might loose out on 'interesting items'. Getting him to commit to giving away some of these 'thing you will want' might be a good idea, but carries some risks of course.

If it turns out he does have things you want, what would those things be? Don't worry about what you characters think they would want, feel free to state out-of-character what you, the players, are interested in getting for the party. We can adjust the power-levels to be appropriate, and they might not start out at full power.

Norbert does not feel he has to get involved in the discussion. He tries to keep a straight face but at the tought of some nice adventuring gear (leather armor and maybe even a sword or bow) he does sit up a little straighter.

Sounds good. Pick one, or list them in order of which you would like the most.

How about we ask for the girl as a reward? Or is that too over the top.
If he has her that is...
If the prize has to be something more material,
Roald would ask for a nicer sword. Norbert can have his old sword if he likes.

I'm still searching for my coin purse btw 😬


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Creepy. I don't know yet how he would react to such a request, but I dread that he may be willing to offer you a girl as payment...
This is an OOC question, so not about your character asking for anything. Your characters would not know what he has, and you can make it something special if you ask as the player, then we can see if it is at all feasible that he might have such a thing in his collection.
'Nicer' how? Your old one glowed in the dark and killed undead. What do you, as a player, want from a new 'nicer' one?
Oh noes! Have you lost it? Was it stolen? :)

It might not be the best idea to check it in front of the baron, but you might have had time while waiting for him to arrive. If you want to flashback to checking we can do so, else after the meeting?

Albert is trying to see if the baron is taking them seriously or not. If they are invited to a table to talk, that's a good sign that the baron sees value in them.

As a reward, in character, and if asked, Albert wants some provisions. Money is also good.
The real goal is to have a conversation to gain knowledge about the girl and about the barons' feud.

About the girl. I thought the characters suspected that the baron kidnapped the mayor's daughter, maybe I remembered it wrong. Of course they would return the girl home, you dirty mind! 😁

I completely forgot about the glowing of the sword. You're right, Roald will not give away that beauty.

Will check purse after the meeting.


That still leaves the question, what payment would Roald need.
He doesn't really need anything except maybe some new clothes or boots, else money.

I thought that might be the case.

It is hard to tell with him. It might need a roll. I am not sure yet what type of roll, there seem to be two issues at hand, gathering information and not offending the baron, it will be a delicate dance to do both, and you may have to dance a bit more before you can roll.

That is something you suspect. Do you want to outright ask him for/about her?

No, but we could mention during the 'talk' that the mayor's daughter was kidnapped and we are trying to return her to her parents. The baron might give her up if there is something in it for him.
You don't abduct a girl without a reason.