The Sacrifice Camp (OOC)

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I've probably got the distinction between OOC clarification in the RP post and stuff that goes here all wrong but regardless:

Pretty much, well done. :)
If you need an answer in OOC, then post it here so we can talk about it.
If you just want to describe what you are doing so there is no confusion about your intent, that can go in the RP thread. The above description of intent could have gone in an OOC tag, but could also have been part of your RP, as you did with the 'prayer to Selusia' that you don't hurt her.

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Now, that 'prayer', is that a thing that you think should have an affect on the story? Did you take the time to pray for that before you threw?

If it was just fluff, then we can handle the throw, which I would assume is with DEX (so `2d6+2`).

If you are praying first, then we can handle that and it will affect your throw. So far we have modeled asking a god for help as a social skill, same as if you ask anyone else for help, so that is usually +CHA --but depends on the situation and the fiction of how things are being asked. From the fiction you presented, Olden is not doing anything particularly special and just asking (if at all), so this seems like CHA.
There are no mechanical advantage and disadvantage rules, the fiction before the roll affects what sorts of outcomes we can expect, so such 'disadvantage' will be in the form of changing the 'effectiveness' rather than the 'chances'.

A Success on the 'bola attack' might only trip her rather than entrap her (it is not proper weighted bola and not very long). You would need a 12+ to have it miraculously work as a proper bola.

Since you flavoured the fiction with a strong desire to not do damage, that might shift the whole spectrum to where a 12+ is a proper bola ensnaring, while a 10+ is a trip, and a 7-9 is a miss that does not hit her and does not do harm, while a 6- sees the heavy belt --or the ground she falls on-- injure her. Those are the stakes you set.

Selusia's help can shift those stakes up or down based on what you roll for your prayer. A Success would remove the chance of hurting her, but possibly at the cost of making both 6- and 7-9 see you missing her and doing nothing, a 10+ would shift the 6- to being a miss and the 7-9 as being a trip; a 12+ on the prayer might do something special, but you are not (from the fiction so far) praying for better effect, Selusia might not give you full bola effect as that is not what you asked for, I am thinking a 12+ would be something about her 'feeling welcomed' and would change her attitude instead.

A 6- on the prayer would have a negative effect, but I am not sure what it would be --I don't know enough about your relationship with your god. We can discuss it before the roll, or we can have it play out over then next while if we need to. You define your relationship and what Selusia is like, so you will have a lot of say in how that negative effect plays out.

A lot of words there, I can make a table if you are interested?

What do you think?

We might combine everyone's actions into one outcome, so we can look at Norbert's Success at a Cost (8) [ref] then?

@fossball: Are you trying to do anything special with your slung stone? Is it just an attack? (Hopefully her knees are going to be alright, at least it was not another 6! :)

Thanks very much @vagueGM. That's an utterly vapid way of me saying I appreciate and learn tons from these "teaching" posts of yours and, indeed, from Airshark, fossball, and TheGenerator. I understand what you're saying about the various roll scenarios and combinations so I'm not going to hassle you about a table.

I now understand the main Dex-aided attack roll. Let me think a bit about what the Cha-assisted "Prayer" might do to the former and I'll post my opinion here OOC if that's OK.

In terms of the prayer itself, it wasn't a ritualistic prayer such as this one [ ref ] - there wasn't time in this case. His intent might've been sincere but it was more along the lines of, "My God(dess), I hope I don't do something awful to that woman." So I'm thinking a smallish modifier?

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With regards to Olden and his Goddess:

I think of Selusia as a less overt God, perhaps compared to Raynor, in terms of her manifestation. Travellers do pray to her with Olden's (and formerly Hilde's) assistance and believe strongly that their prayers are answered. The blessings, however, are more along the lines of favourable weather, wagons *not* breaking down, or them not inadvertently taking that nasty road that's rife with bandits. Olden used to be contentedly secure about his place in Selusia's service but is experiencing (but possibly starting to recover from) a bit of an imposter syndrome at this point - read semi-drunken fug after the loss of his wife. He isn't expecting any genuine miracles now but would treat a successful "blessing" (lay on hands for enhancements/enchantments on *things*) in the future as a sign of his redemption.

Exactly what it is meant for. :)
You get to define how much 'ritual' you need to have an affect. If you say that a few muttered words is enough then you can roll it and see how much it helps. This can be different at different times, try to be roughly consistent, but each time it is up to you.
There are no mechanical 'modifiers', the outcome changes the fiction. A small outcome could be to keep the 'attack' results as above, but interpret them in a softer way? This might just change how the woman responds to whatever happens. NPCs don't have HP and such, they are just 'blobs of fiction', so how 'hurt' she gets is a mainly-fictional thing.
You don't say! The god of wayfarers is less overt than the god of conquest?! :)

But, yes, hence my interpretation of her blessing being about making your target more comfortable.
We can shift the focus of this prayer to something along those lines. We can just roll for the bola attack and Olden can view the outcome (as above) as a sign, if it goes well he can say his god helped and grow closer to his god, if it does not he can feel even more unworthy and act accordingly. Or you can ignore all that and just deal with the situation at hand, you might revisit this in your mind later if you want.

Norbert is just trying to hit her. He does not care where he hits her, just if. Being startled by her being there and her lack of clothing he will be happy with any result. He will be looking at her knees once they get closer. He won't be able to meet her eyes and does not want to look at anything higher up.

Fair enough. :)

You guys get to decide if they are nice knees or not. She is older than Norbert and probably Roald, but the rest is up to you.

Did the idea of scouting in the morning get canceled? If so, I think I missed that.

Absent a reliable-posting Norbert it did not seem wise to have him go off scouting without everyone else. I have no problem splitting the party, but splitting it such that only the away-player gets to play and everyone else must wait seemed foolish. :)

This way you are all in the action and all at the camp. No one seemed interested in taking responsibility for rolling for the search, so we asked Fate... and Fate said '1'!

Damn I'm lagging behind. I'll catch up tomorrow.

Thought about it and I think I prefer the above to an extra roll for a prayer, at least in this case, so off I go to roll away.

My interpretation of Olden's rolls - not accounting for Norbert's stone and anything else - would be that:

1 - The poor woman takes some - bruising/abrasive? - injury (and)
2 - Olden feels like he's got some way to go before he can be back in Selusia's good graces

Ah, that makes sense :)

Cool... um... whoops, bad roll. :)

Make the roll to see if you can get in front of her, then I will resolve the other two and, as the closest, you may have to act again.

I added a roll. :)
*spoiler* It's a 9.

Is a roll needed for overtaking Albert? I was thinking this is an ideal display of the athletics skill :)

With Albert's old lungs? I would say no.

The Athletics Skill means you can't actually 'fail' if you rolled it, and I can't think that a extreme cost makes any sense for such an action, so we can assume both you and Albert are in a position to do something about her falling if you want to risk it.

13! I guess this guy is one hell of an athlete!