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Oct 16, 2023 6:18 pm
Party Alfa: @smilery, @Psybermagi, @grifter730 , @Sarge1967, @WhiteDwarf
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Last edited October 16, 2023 6:38 pm
Oct 16, 2023 6:19 pm
Payer | Class | Role |
WD | Paladin | tank, face Persuasion, healing |
grifter | Hexblade | Damage |
Psybermagi | sorcerer warlock | Infiltration, Information, utility |
Smiley | Druid | Blaster Healer utility |
Sarge | Bard | Lore and Support |
Last edited October 16, 2023 8:40 pm
Oct 16, 2023 6:48 pm
I have Waterbreathing and Waterwalking both prepared as a ritual for the group.
Don't have to worry about drowning while on sea.
I have quite a bit of items for reviving and reincarnation. If you each want a few for your self that would be great.
Don't have to worry about drowning while on sea.
I have quite a bit of items for reviving and reincarnation. If you each want a few for your self that would be great.
Oct 16, 2023 7:11 pm
I have a 20-foot-radius cylinder, 20 feet high, personal dimension I can store stuff in but only have access once a day. I can stay inside 10 hours and have my familiar swim for me. I also threw a small rowboat in there, just in case. 😁
For other stuff I have a couple revivify gems on hand, can fly 4 hours, polymorph 2 (twined spell)
Huge Giant Crab Beast 8 TftYP
Sperm Whale Beast 8 IDRotF
Tyrannosaurus Rex Beast 8 MM
For other stuff I have a couple revivify gems on hand, can fly 4 hours, polymorph 2 (twined spell)
Huge Giant Crab Beast 8 TftYP
Sperm Whale Beast 8 IDRotF
Tyrannosaurus Rex Beast 8 MM
Oct 16, 2023 8:50 pm
Smiley says:
I have Waterbreathing and Waterwalking both prepared as a ritual for the group.Don't have to worry about drowning while on sea.
I have quite a bit of items for reviving and reincarnation. If you each want a few for your self that would be great.
Combat:
Kenjidor's combat strategy is very simple. Round 1 Shadow of Moil + Haste (on himself, the paladin, and...? 1 more person who could benefit from Haste would be good), which should give him a couple of attacks, and then on round 2 things should be dead then if all goes to plan.
For range attack he can do Eldritch Blast + Agonizing Blast in a pinch, but he's actually better with a Longbow, as all his insane bonuses will be latched on to those attacks.
At the moment I don't have any real way of attacking sea creatures, but given that we have a real caster in the group, I think I can take out Scrying and swap it for Control Water instead. I can keep scrying if no one else has it, but I can't cast it as a ritual, if that matters.
Skills:
His top skills are: Arcana +9, Initimidation +10, Investigation +9, Nature +9, Perception +6, and all Cha skills are +5 (but thankfully we have a bard, so they can handle all those social things).
Misc stuff:
- I have Silvery Barbs, which could be great if enemy crits or whatever.
- My familiar is the Fractal Mascot, which can phase in and out of objects, so can essentially go through walls. I'd rather not ever have to put it through danger, but may come in handy.
- I can cast enlarge/reduce.
- He is invisible all the time, as he can cast Invisibility at will (but using a Half-Plate, so disadvantage on stealth)
- Got Circle of Power, but not sure how often I'll use that honestly
Really though, this character is here to dish out damage, and he can do a lot of it.
Oct 16, 2023 10:01 pm
@grifter730
6 Gems for Revivify
5 Pouches of Diamond Dust for Greater Restoration
2 Vials of Oil for Reincarnate
Spells are the following
0 Spare the Dying**, Guidance*, Scared Flame*, Druidcraft, Thorn Whip, Produce Flame, Gust
1st Goodberry, Healing Word, Cure Wounds, Bless**, Guiding Bolt*
2nd
3rd Water Walk, Water Breathing, Revivify, Dispel Magic,
4th Polymorph, Control Water, Hallucinatory Terrain
5th Reincarnate, Mass Cure Wounds, Greater Restoration
6th Sunbeam, Heal, Conjure Fey
7th Reverse Gravity, Regenerate, Plane Shift
8th Sunburst
I have no plans for combat. Going to play it by ear. I have a lot of different Spells and Utility...
6 Gems for Revivify
5 Pouches of Diamond Dust for Greater Restoration
2 Vials of Oil for Reincarnate
Spells are the following
0 Spare the Dying**, Guidance*, Scared Flame*, Druidcraft, Thorn Whip, Produce Flame, Gust
1st Goodberry, Healing Word, Cure Wounds, Bless**, Guiding Bolt*
2nd
3rd Water Walk, Water Breathing, Revivify, Dispel Magic,
4th Polymorph, Control Water, Hallucinatory Terrain
5th Reincarnate, Mass Cure Wounds, Greater Restoration
6th Sunbeam, Heal, Conjure Fey
7th Reverse Gravity, Regenerate, Plane Shift
8th Sunburst
I have no plans for combat. Going to play it by ear. I have a lot of different Spells and Utility...
Oct 16, 2023 10:47 pm
[ +- ] spell list
SPELL LIST
Cantrips++++++++++
Eldritch Blast (W)
Chill Touch (WB)
Toll of the Dead (W)
Mind Sliver (AM)
Meld Earth
Gust
Shape Water
Control Flames
Minor Illusion
Mending
Mage Hand (TK)
Druidcraft (WB)
Spells
1st ++++++++++
Silent Image (E : a/w)
Absorb Elements (WB)
+ Sleep
+ Charm Person
Cure Wounds (W)
Thunderwave (W)
Shield
Chromatic Orb
Magic Missile
Find Familiar (pact)
2nd ++++++++++
+Tasha's Mind Whip
+Detect Thoughts
Invisibility (W)
Misty Step (W)
Mirror Image
Hold Person
3rd ++++++++++
+Hunger of Hadar
+Fast Friends
Fireball
Counter Spell
4th ++++++++++
+Arcane Eye
+Summon Aberration
Polymorph
Sickening Radiance
5th ++++++++++
+Synaptic Static
+Telekinesis
Creation
6th ++++++++++
Arcane Gate
Disintegrate
Cantrips++++++++++
Eldritch Blast (W)
Chill Touch (WB)
Toll of the Dead (W)
Mind Sliver (AM)
Meld Earth
Gust
Shape Water
Control Flames
Minor Illusion
Mending
Mage Hand (TK)
Druidcraft (WB)
Spells
1st ++++++++++
Silent Image (E : a/w)
Absorb Elements (WB)
+ Sleep
+ Charm Person
Cure Wounds (W)
Thunderwave (W)
Shield
Chromatic Orb
Magic Missile
Find Familiar (pact)
2nd ++++++++++
+Tasha's Mind Whip
+Detect Thoughts
Invisibility (W)
Misty Step (W)
Mirror Image
Hold Person
3rd ++++++++++
+Hunger of Hadar
+Fast Friends
Fireball
Counter Spell
4th ++++++++++
+Arcane Eye
+Summon Aberration
Polymorph
Sickening Radiance
5th ++++++++++
+Synaptic Static
+Telekinesis
Creation
6th ++++++++++
Arcane Gate
Disintegrate
Misty Visions: Silent Image
Metamagic
Careful Spell (S:MM)
Subtle Spell (S:MM)
Twinned Spell (S:MM)
He focused on taking out key players in combat. Synaptic static can damage and cause large numbers of the enemy to be greatly hindered.
Last edited October 22, 2023 10:16 pm
Oct 16, 2023 11:57 pm
I just wish I knew more spells. Without Aberrant Mind I would only know 16. Sorcerer limit on spells is hard.
I plan to use Hunger of Hadar with it to blind enemies then shoot them
I plan to use Hunger of Hadar with it to blind enemies then shoot them
Last edited October 17, 2023 12:01 am
Oct 17, 2023 1:20 am
Winks. Not in your group but Congo hordes 24 arcane spells and 15 various spell slots with 15 prepared spells and 5 cantrips.
Oct 17, 2023 4:49 am
Psybermagi says:
I just wish I knew more spells. Without Aberrant Mind I would only know 16. Sorcerer limit on spells is hard.Oct 17, 2023 5:02 am
Same with aberrant. If I keep them or only replace with divination or enchantment I can use sorcery points 1/spell level. It fits my character concept nicely. Not much for strait damage but should be fun to play.
Oct 17, 2023 10:06 pm
Hi guys, can someone give me some technical guidance please, towards getting Seelah’s image sized and formatted like everyone else’s, and how to wrap it at the left side of my posts?
Signed, a newbie lol.
Signed, a newbie lol.
Oct 17, 2023 10:16 pm
WhiteDwarf says:
Hi guys, can someone give me some technical guidance please, towards getting Seelah’s image sized and formatted like everyone else’s, and how to wrap it at the left side of my posts?Signed, a newbie lol.
It'll automatically pull the image from your character sheet into the post.
Adding your image to the character sheet is also simple. Just edit your sheet, and click the "Change Avatar" link:
Last edited October 17, 2023 10:17 pm
Oct 17, 2023 10:42 pm
grifter730 says:
WhiteDwarf says:
Hi guys, can someone give me some technical guidance please, towards getting Seelah’s image sized and formatted like everyone else’s, and how to wrap it at the left side of my posts?Signed, a newbie lol.
It'll automatically pull the image from your character sheet into the post.
Adding your image to the character sheet is also simple. Just edit your sheet, and click the "Change Avatar" link:
Oct 18, 2023 4:19 am
@GreyWord : as an Aberrant Mind sorcerer I get Since Mind Sliver is a cantrip does this mean I can cast it without any components, it only has verbal, without spending any sorcery points? If a 1st level spell from the list costs 1 sorcery point it makes sense to me that Mind Sliver is free. But I want to check
[ +- ] Psionic Spells
Starting at 1st level, you learn additional spells when you reach certain levels in this class, as shown on the Psionic Spells table. Each of these spells counts as a sorcerer spell for you, but it doesn't count against the number of sorcerer spells you know. . . .
Sorcerer Level Spells
1st Arms of Hadar, Dissonant Whispers, Mind Sliver
3rd Calm Emotions, Detect Thoughts
5th Hunger of Hadar, Sending
7th Evard's Black Tentacles, Summon Aberration
9th Rary's Telepathic Bond, Telekinesis
Sorcerer Level Spells
1st Arms of Hadar, Dissonant Whispers, Mind Sliver
3rd Calm Emotions, Detect Thoughts
5th Hunger of Hadar, Sending
7th Evard's Black Tentacles, Summon Aberration
9th Rary's Telepathic Bond, Telekinesis
[ +- ] Psionic Sorcery
Beginning at 6th level, when you cast any spell of 1st level or higher from your Psionic Spells feature, you can cast it by expending a spell slot as normal or by spending a number of sorcery points equal to the spell's level. If you cast the spell using sorcery points, it requires no verbal or somatic components, and it requires no material components, unless they are consumed by the spell.
Last edited October 18, 2023 12:12 pm
Oct 18, 2023 5:32 am
Are you asking if you can ignore Verbal component of the spell for free? As I stated previously - as a DM of lvl 15 game I say it is your choice as a player to decide. I will not be checking.
If you want my opinion as rules lawyer GreyWord (not as DM) - then I read " when you cast any spell of 1st level or higher" Psionic Sorcery does not affect cantrips. Next sentence confirms that by stating "If you cast the spell using sorcery points, it requires no verbal or somatic components".
If you want my opinion as rules lawyer GreyWord (not as DM) - then I read " when you cast any spell of 1st level or higher" Psionic Sorcery does not affect cantrips. Next sentence confirms that by stating "If you cast the spell using sorcery points, it requires no verbal or somatic components".
Oct 18, 2023 7:41 am
Please everyone who can see this thread inform me if you also see and can post to "Chapter 1: Moonshae Isles" by voting
Thanks.
Can you access Chapter 1: Moonshae Isles Public
Yes I see and can post there
See, but can't post
Don't see or other issues
See but not supposed to (not Alfa team)
Thanks.
Oct 18, 2023 11:06 am
GreyWord says:
If you want my opinion as rules lawyer GreyWord (not as DM) - then I read " when you cast any spell of 1st level or higher" Psionic Sorcery does not affect cantrips. Next sentence confirms that by stating "If you cast the spell using sorcery points, it requires no verbal or somatic components".Last edited October 18, 2023 12:11 pm
Oct 18, 2023 11:34 am
DnD designers often refer to "a spell of 1st level or higher" when they want to specify the feature does not apply to cantrips.
As for odd wording read this reference to "any spell" in divine soul
As for odd wording read this reference to "any spell" in divine soul
Quote:
a sorcerer cantrip or a sorcerer spell of 1st level or higherOct 19, 2023 5:34 am
@Sarge1967 I really need to do at least a draft PC charsheet before I can allow you to keep posting in this thread. I've removed your rights to post until we have your PC in the game
P.S. Once I can approve your charactersheet you will be able to do "Post As" your PC to follow the best practices we all are using on this site.
Thanks for understanding
P.S. Once I can approve your charactersheet you will be able to do "Post As" your PC to follow the best practices we all are using on this site.
Thanks for understanding
Oct 20, 2023 5:45 am
@Sarge1967 good, now as I've approved it you can (and I would ask you to) in future posts do this:
I believe you should have the rights to post again, let me know if you don't
Note that I've edited your previous posts in game thread to have you posted as PC
Now you have one last job - please edit your profile, fine "Change Avatar" in right-top corner and set you PC an avatar (choose file, then press upload. Note that it will not reflect immediately, but after save and reload you should see it in left-top of your charactersheet)
Thanks
I believe you should have the rights to post again, let me know if you don't
Note that I've edited your previous posts in game thread to have you posted as PC
Now you have one last job - please edit your profile, fine "Change Avatar" in right-top corner and set you PC an avatar (choose file, then press upload. Note that it will not reflect immediately, but after save and reload you should see it in left-top of your charactersheet)
Thanks
Oct 20, 2023 10:23 pm
One of my magic items is a Spell Gem. I can store 1 spell of 1st level in it. I was going to put in Healing Word or Cure Wounds.
Someone else can hold it and use it. I just need it back to refill it.
Wondrous item, uncommon (attunement optional)
A lapis lazuli spell gem can contain one spell from any class's spell list. You become aware of the spell when you learn the gem's properties. While holding the gem, you can cast the spell from it as an action if you know the spell or if the spell is on your class's spell list. Doing so doesn't require any components, and doesn't require attunement. The spell then disappears from the gem.
If the spell is of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell's level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the gem with no other effect.
A lapis lazuli spell gem can store up to 1st level spells. Spells cast from the spell gem have a save DC of 13 and an attack bonus of +5.
You can imbue the gem with a spell if you're attuned to it and it's empty. To do so, you cast the spell while holding the gem. The spell is stored in the gem instead of having any effect. Casting the spell must require either 1 action or 1 minute or longer, and the spell's level must be no higher than the gem's maximum. If the spell belongs to the school of abjuration and requires material components that are consumed, you must provide them, but they can be worth half as much as normal.
Once imbued with a spell, the gem can't be imbued again until the next dawn.
Deep gnomes created these magic gemstones and keep the creation process a secret.Who wants it?
Someone else can hold it and use it. I just need it back to refill it.
OOC:
Spell Gem (Lapis lazuli)Wondrous item, uncommon (attunement optional)
A lapis lazuli spell gem can contain one spell from any class's spell list. You become aware of the spell when you learn the gem's properties. While holding the gem, you can cast the spell from it as an action if you know the spell or if the spell is on your class's spell list. Doing so doesn't require any components, and doesn't require attunement. The spell then disappears from the gem.
If the spell is of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell's level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the gem with no other effect.
A lapis lazuli spell gem can store up to 1st level spells. Spells cast from the spell gem have a save DC of 13 and an attack bonus of +5.
You can imbue the gem with a spell if you're attuned to it and it's empty. To do so, you cast the spell while holding the gem. The spell is stored in the gem instead of having any effect. Casting the spell must require either 1 action or 1 minute or longer, and the spell's level must be no higher than the gem's maximum. If the spell belongs to the school of abjuration and requires material components that are consumed, you must provide them, but they can be worth half as much as normal.
Once imbued with a spell, the gem can't be imbued again until the next dawn.
Deep gnomes created these magic gemstones and keep the creation process a secret.
Oct 20, 2023 10:43 pm
Give it to a familiar (Ken and I both have one) or Kenjidor the hexblade, unless he already has healing. Anyone can use the healing work to keep a teammate away from that scary shining doorway in the sky :)
Last edited October 20, 2023 10:44 pm
Oct 22, 2023 10:36 pm
grifter730 says:
Do we know if these creatures were the cause for the ship's mast being broken? Like, did any of the crew members see it?And sorry I forgot to turn down ability to roll in the story thread. We will not be rolling dice in the game thread in this game. And only consult with a dice when I can't decide based on what PC does. What Kenjidor did was "with tact, social graces, or good nature". Good job there
Oct 24, 2023 12:01 pm
Info on ability check rolls:
1. I'm not rolling any persuasion checks for Kenjidor - they all automatically pass due to the spell. If Kenjidor would go swimming someone else would need to talk to the other serpent (the more suspicious one), that's when rolls may be required
2. Insight checks. There are two applications of Wisdom (Insight) check I may call for:
A. If PC takes an active measures to figure out what are the NPC true intentions, such as asking questions "you don't lie to me, do you!?" or even "if you lie to me I will...". DC is lower but a failure will upset/offend them.
B. Passive as per rules "Doing so involves gleaning clues from body language, speech habits, and changes in mannerisms." could be used while speaking with creatures you know "body language, speech habits or mannerisms". These dragon speaking serpents are not one of them.
Conclusion:
- I will be doing auto insight-rolling for every PC in party when you engage in a conversation with humanoid talking common with you.
- If any player want to do active insight on serpents I am good to roll hidden check for them, but please conform you understand a failure will will decrease creature attitude.
1. I'm not rolling any persuasion checks for Kenjidor - they all automatically pass due to the spell. If Kenjidor would go swimming someone else would need to talk to the other serpent (the more suspicious one), that's when rolls may be required
2. Insight checks. There are two applications of Wisdom (Insight) check I may call for:
A. If PC takes an active measures to figure out what are the NPC true intentions, such as asking questions "you don't lie to me, do you!?" or even "if you lie to me I will...". DC is lower but a failure will upset/offend them.
B. Passive as per rules "Doing so involves gleaning clues from body language, speech habits, and changes in mannerisms." could be used while speaking with creatures you know "body language, speech habits or mannerisms". These dragon speaking serpents are not one of them.
Conclusion:
- I will be doing auto insight-rolling for every PC in party when you engage in a conversation with humanoid talking common with you.
- If any player want to do active insight on serpents I am good to roll hidden check for them, but please conform you understand a failure will will decrease creature attitude.
Oct 26, 2023 6:15 pm
Are we still a party of 5? Seems like it’s been just 3 people for a few days, and the game just started.
Oct 26, 2023 7:11 pm
I'm still in. I haven't been able to play a character this high till now so am looking forward to it.
There had been a discussion on how a DM and players can indicate when they are attentive and passive, not acting but still following along, vs waiting for a response/reaction, vs ghosting a game. But there is no perfect system
There had been a discussion on how a DM and players can indicate when they are attentive and passive, not acting but still following along, vs waiting for a response/reaction, vs ghosting a game. But there is no perfect system
Last edited October 26, 2023 7:59 pm
Oct 26, 2023 8:15 pm
love your enthusiasm. I am on vacation this week willl try to figure out things next week.
Oct 26, 2023 10:36 pm
I am the same. Never played high levels like this.
Interested to see how it goes.
Interested to see how it goes.
Oct 31, 2023 6:17 pm
So, when I first saw the game my plan was to go with a Warlock using the "Raven Queen" Patron, but then quickly discovered Unearthed Arcana isn't permitted...so then I was going to go with a Ranged focused Warlock (Eldritch Blast, Eldritch Spear, Eldritch Agony, Lance of Lethargy, Rappelling Blast, Grasp of Hadar) but it seems we already have a couple of warlocks. I'm open to going a different direction; what do you guys see as a need for this team?
Oct 31, 2023 6:55 pm
Busy due to Halloween.
I have a few things I wanted to post.
@GreyWord Can Insight check the vampire? I am distrustful of the undead...
I have a few things I wanted to post.
@GreyWord Can Insight check the vampire? I am distrustful of the undead...
Oct 31, 2023 8:21 pm
Halloween weekend chaos put me behind on posts. I will add more tonight, tomorrow at the latest
Last edited October 31, 2023 8:37 pm
Nov 4, 2023 2:59 pm
Are we assuming retcon placement of Jerinvar into the game...or is there some tie in as to how he is currently included in the current forest combat?
Nov 4, 2023 3:59 pm
@Sardis As you made you PC charsheet just in time for the combat, let's assume Jerinvar has been together with the party and you could act in your initiative order. You can describe your PC visually in the narrative thread already
All players - let me know if you have any issues rolling anything in combat thread, I hop you all have all the rights to do that
All players - let me know if you have any issues rolling anything in combat thread, I hop you all have all the rights to do that
Nov 4, 2023 6:27 pm
Seems I have trouble rolling in-game. ???
I can roll in a diff thread if that’s better.
Edit - possible I messed up the code. Looking at it.
Return of Edit - fixed it.
I can roll in a diff thread if that’s better.
Edit - possible I messed up the code. Looking at it.
Return of Edit - fixed it.
Last edited November 4, 2023 6:40 pm
Nov 4, 2023 6:46 pm
we will solve the problem if you can share the details. Let me start with a short instruction on how to use this site features
First you find your PC name below Rolls section, tap it and find your weapon. You tap first on to hit then on damage
That will auto populate rolls for you with proper formulas
If you need to roll at advantage or disadvantage tap letter A or D accordingly
Now if you want to write/edit formula yourself, you can use Tools-> Dice menu to test your formula of it is correct before posting the roll
Let me know if that was helpful and if you would like further help
[ +- ] How to roll your javelin easy way
First you find your PC name below Rolls section, tap it and find your weapon. You tap first on to hit then on damage
That will auto populate rolls for you with proper formulas
If you need to roll at advantage or disadvantage tap letter A or D accordingly
Now if you want to write/edit formula yourself, you can use Tools-> Dice menu to test your formula of it is correct before posting the roll
Nov 4, 2023 6:49 pm
Are we doing combat in initiative order? Or group order?
Also, I'll be out for the next 6 hours or so, won't be able to post during then.
Also, I'll be out for the next 6 hours or so, won't be able to post during then.
Nov 4, 2023 6:59 pm
@WhiteDwarf your modifier should be +10 not +5.
And just as @grifter730 noticed you posted out of your initiative. It is fine for the first combat - it is a test combat anyway, but in next combat I will be deleting any post done out of initiative.
P.S. Usually on PBP I allow players to post their turns in any order to boost things up, but this is a LVL 15 game and believe me - there are a lot of things that could change on the battle map until we reach your turn in initiative order. That's why in this game combat will happed rules as written. Each PC only act on their turn in initiative order.
And just as @grifter730 noticed you posted out of your initiative. It is fine for the first combat - it is a test combat anyway, but in next combat I will be deleting any post done out of initiative.
P.S. Usually on PBP I allow players to post their turns in any order to boost things up, but this is a LVL 15 game and believe me - there are a lot of things that could change on the battle map until we reach your turn in initiative order. That's why in this game combat will happed rules as written. Each PC only act on their turn in initiative order.
Nov 4, 2023 7:18 pm
If the feline creatures are monstrosities (?) can Jerinvar make an intelligence check to see what he knows of them (as monstrosities are his Favored Enemy as a Ranger)
Also, since it isn't an action (at least I don't think it is), can I make that check now (if he gets one).
Note: if I don't know what we are facing I will attempt to inquire every time so that I can use that ability whenever able).
Also, since it isn't an action (at least I don't think it is), can I make that check now (if he gets one).
Note: if I don't know what we are facing I will attempt to inquire every time so that I can use that ability whenever able).
Last edited November 4, 2023 7:20 pm
Nov 4, 2023 7:58 pm
GreyWord says:
@WhiteDwarf your modifier should be +10 not +5. And just as @grifter730 noticed you posted out of your initiative. It is fine for the first combat - it is a test combat anyway, but in next combat I will be deleting any post done out of initiative.
P.S. Usually on PBP I allow players to post their turns in any order to boost things up, but this is a LVL 15 game and believe me - there are a lot of things that could change on the battle map until we reach your turn in initiative order. That's why in this game combat will happed rules as written. Each PC only act on their turn in initiative order.
Nov 4, 2023 8:54 pm
Make an intelligence check during a combat? Short answer - it is an Action
However the creature indeed appears to be a monstrosity. Anyone having features that work against monstrosity could user/apply them.
However the creature indeed appears to be a monstrosity. Anyone having features that work against monstrosity could user/apply them.
[ +- ] Long answer or reasoning
To simplify my as DM work and because this is a one-shot let's say attempt to completely recall a lore on something requires a minute of concentration of your knowledge.
Nevertheless I am fine with any player do Improvise Action (find details in either basic rules or PHB) as part of their their combat turn. Intelligence check as an improvise action is great. DC would typically be 10, but amount of info would depend on creature rarity for the settings. So this would be a gamble on your side if the information is useful or not.
The minute in relaxed situation would allow you to recall more
Nevertheless I am fine with any player do Improvise Action (find details in either basic rules or PHB) as part of their their combat turn. Intelligence check as an improvise action is great. DC would typically be 10, but amount of info would depend on creature rarity for the settings. So this would be a gamble on your side if the information is useful or not.
The minute in relaxed situation would allow you to recall more
Nov 5, 2023 9:00 am
I'm wondering about sentence "the need to kill these majestic looking beasts". If it reflect your PC characteristics in any way I can give inspiration. Bajaz clearly told you not to kill, didn't he?
Nov 5, 2023 10:06 am
GreyWord says:
I'm wondering about sentence "the need to kill these majestic looking beasts". If it reflect your PC characteristics in any way I can give inspiration. Bajaz clearly told you not to kill, didn't he?Nov 5, 2023 1:29 pm
Heading out for a few hours. Will post when I get home.
I don't have my books in front of me and can't remember how readied actions work in 5e. Can I move with my move action and ready an action (casting a spell) with my attack action?
I don't have my books in front of me and can't remember how readied actions work in 5e. Can I move with my move action and ready an action (casting a spell) with my attack action?
Nov 5, 2023 2:31 pm
Yes, but you need:
1. Define exact trigger for when to cast the spell (i.e. "when any enemy moves within range")
2. Your spell slot will be wasted if trigger does not happen
1. Define exact trigger for when to cast the spell (i.e. "when any enemy moves within range")
2. Your spell slot will be wasted if trigger does not happen
Nov 5, 2023 3:25 pm
Non lethal ways to handle them include : paralysis, charm, fear, intimidation, etc
The closer one is now much more susceptible to all of this from my attack as it is wounded and confused. If it runs away the 2nd should as well unless it is under some compulsion.
The closer one is now much more susceptible to all of this from my attack as it is wounded and confused. If it runs away the 2nd should as well unless it is under some compulsion.
Nov 6, 2023 1:49 pm
Actually, I need to rethink my action...as a Ranger, having Monstrosities as my Favored "Enemy" should have him wanting to kill them. I'll work on a post to reflect this (I didn't take that class feature into consideration with my last post...apologies). Will have something up in the next few hours.
Nov 6, 2023 9:36 pm
Just for clarification...did only one eldritch blast beam hit? If both hit, the creature hit should have been pushed back 20' and speed slowed by 20' until the end of Jerinvar's next turn.
Nov 6, 2023 9:38 pm
Also, in the future, I'll include spoiler tags for each invocation applied to his eldritch blast when used.
Nov 7, 2023 3:20 pm
@Psybermage
As a player, I must think they are something different than you do? As to me they sound like Kamadan from Tomb of Annihilation? If they are that, they could have upwards of 108 hp each??? So 30+ is most likely around half damage, though possible closer to only 1/4??
Kamadan
As a player, I must think they are something different than you do? As to me they sound like Kamadan from Tomb of Annihilation? If they are that, they could have upwards of 108 hp each??? So 30+ is most likely around half damage, though possible closer to only 1/4??
Kamadan
Nov 7, 2023 3:41 pm
No I agree that they sound like the monsters from ToA and likely have a lot if HP. I didn't look them up and never ran then as a DM so don't know. Still. 30 HP damage should stop any casual interest. That is what I meant by them having a reason if they stick around after talking this damage
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Nov 7, 2023 3:44 pm
I admit I borrowed Kamadan idea and visuals, but I am not using their exact sheet, please don't imply meta knowledge of the creature as you will be wrong. Your PC is supposed to never have seen the creature and have no idea of it's abilities, habits and not to mention exact amount of HP
Nov 7, 2023 3:46 pm
To be clear...my observations/opinions were strictly from a player stand point. All Jerinvar needs to know is that they are monstrosities!!
:)
:)
Nov 7, 2023 3:47 pm
Ok. My statement about level 15 characters having better knowledge of possible threats stands. I do not consider that metagaming, as long as I don't go looking for their stay block. I guess Pin just misremembered or misidentified them.
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Nov 7, 2023 3:55 pm
I am confused.
Where did you post an image of the "beast"?
I am search and don't see one anywhere
Where did you post an image of the "beast"?
I am search and don't see one anywhere
Nov 7, 2023 3:58 pm
@smiley
He didn't post an image. He described it. A feline with a mane of snakes basically. There aren't many 5e creatures that meet that description.
:)
He didn't post an image. He described it. A feline with a mane of snakes basically. There aren't many 5e creatures that meet that description.
:)
Nov 7, 2023 3:59 pm
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As Seelah and Bajaz moves on followed by others a leopard-like creature reveal itself by moving your way. As it moves your way you notice several snakes sprouting from its shoulders. Another similar creature moves in from the other sideNov 7, 2023 10:14 pm
"30 HP damage should stop any casual interest" is fair and even lvl 1 PC would know that, I have no problem with that
I only want to hint you this is a custom creature. It's visual similarity with a CR4 creature ToA designed for lvl 5-8 PC to be treated as a coincidence.
I only want to hint you this is a custom creature. It's visual similarity with a CR4 creature ToA designed for lvl 5-8 PC to be treated as a coincidence.
Nov 10, 2023 10:59 pm
@WhiteDwarf
As much as I like the nobility of non-lethal damage, I feel I should point out that non lethal damage requires a melee attack.
As much as I like the nobility of non-lethal damage, I feel I should point out that non lethal damage requires a melee attack.
Nov 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Sardis says:
@WhiteDwarfAs much as I like the nobility of non-lethal damage, I feel I should point out that non lethal damage requires a melee attack.
Nov 10, 2023 11:18 pm
Sardis says:
Trust me...would love to deal non lethal damage with my eldritch blast 😀Nov 18, 2023 9:23 am
Regarding current encounter. I will roll on behalf of each PC
[ +- ] History - when you see them
Based on my research Fey include extremely wide range of creatures : Satyrs and Screaming devilkin would have very different etiquette, politics and law (if any).
[ +- ] Insight - when/if you talk
Fey creatures are exaggerated and unpredictable beings and their body language do not correspond to humanoid body language, so DC will be 20.
Nov 24, 2023 7:00 am
@Psybermagi thanks for pointing out you have that amulet
Everyone, this was an amazing experiment of mine and now I need time to narrate the results, I would certainly like to share all the messages with everyone later. Too excited to keep to myself only :) But please hold on until we finish this social encounter.
Everyone, this was an amazing experiment of mine and now I need time to narrate the results, I would certainly like to share all the messages with everyone later. Too excited to keep to myself only :) But please hold on until we finish this social encounter.
Nov 28, 2023 12:17 am
Sardis says:
OOC:
If my last point is accurate...I just never assigned the type of performance/instrument that I'm proficient with.You’re correct, you don’t necessarily need proficiency in the skill, if you’ve proficiency in the instrument. Then it’s only if you’re unable to use your instrument gif some reason, that you’d just make a straight non-proficient performance check.
Hope that makes sense.
Nov 28, 2023 12:27 am
OOC:
i think i understand. So, being proficient in Performance, Jerinvar could make the checks when playing the flute.He has a +15 modifier for performance.
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Nov 28, 2023 4:48 am
@Sardis please use this thread to ask questions about game mechanics. I am always ready to explain my as DM choice.
You can read for example this article or dig more, but I'll try to explain in my own words below
Charisma (Performance) is to impress audience. You don't need to impress a beast. You need to play single tune in order to trigger the magic. That is no way a charisma (performance) ability check.
As an example see Pipes of the Sewers magic item. It say "You must be proficient with wind instruments to use these pipes.". Assume flute Archfey posses is a similar to that magic item, but simpler to use, so you can attempt to use it even if not proficient.
Now as a DM I had to chose one out of 6 abilities: Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Cha for the ability check. Your DM picked Dex as most appropriate.
Does that make sense?
P.S.
I would probably consider allowing to add sleight of hand prof. bonus, but as far as I see none has it. Does anyone?
You can read for example this article or dig more, but I'll try to explain in my own words below
Charisma (Performance) is to impress audience. You don't need to impress a beast. You need to play single tune in order to trigger the magic. That is no way a charisma (performance) ability check.
As an example see Pipes of the Sewers magic item. It say "You must be proficient with wind instruments to use these pipes.". Assume flute Archfey posses is a similar to that magic item, but simpler to use, so you can attempt to use it even if not proficient.
Now as a DM I had to chose one out of 6 abilities: Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Cha for the ability check. Your DM picked Dex as most appropriate.
Does that make sense?
P.S.
I would probably consider allowing to add sleight of hand prof. bonus, but as far as I see none has it. Does anyone?
Dec 14, 2023 6:51 am
This is depressing to me I'm afraid. Why would you think it takes more than hour ? Besides after an hour other kamadan would know he were charmed by another PC would initiative fight with him.
Regardless, let me spoil you what your PCs does not know - flute did not impact frog the way it impacted kamadan. So the moment frog turns back into kamadam - creature will try to fight you/escape. We will be rolling another initiative and repeating the process. I know kamadan has very little to no chances to escape, but still a chance.
GreyWord says:
It doesn't take long before you find both creatures hiding in bushes and licking each other's scars and burns. More over you manage find them before they spot you.please vote
DM delete all in game posts beginning with when we voted to return back to archfey immediately and I roll initiative for another combat with kamadan as described above
We stay with existing narrative and DM involve your NPC Bajaz and a die roll to resolve the current situation
We end this game as too confusing for players
Dec 14, 2023 9:58 am
Ah, sorry, yeah I think this game is just not jiving with me. Not sure what it is, but I’m having a hard time getting into the character and the game because I keel getting confused. I appreciate what you’ve done though, I’ve really enjoyed the other games you’ve ran before.
Dec 14, 2023 5:30 pm
OK, the players who voted to end the game - I respect you decision. The practice proven building a non combat encounters that would be challenging for lvl 15 characters is not easy for me. But I will keep trying with players who want to keep trying.
Dec 31, 2023 3:06 pm
Posting for Seelah curtailed thru New Years Day. Will get back to it on Tuesday. Hope everyone is well today!