Jun 21, 2024 5:49 pm
What about height of ceiling?
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Jun 21, 2024 10:16 pm
Ok so here is my thought. Wall of Water can make a water "ring" up to 20ft high and 20ft radius.
If I make a ring that blocks from ground to ceiling and wall to wall we could get a 10min head start on the gas pushing us faster in the dungeon or maybe find a safe "outside" access
If I make a ring that blocks from ground to ceiling and wall to wall we could get a 10min head start on the gas pushing us faster in the dungeon or maybe find a safe "outside" access
Jun 22, 2024 3:34 am
Just so I understand, you want to use wall of water like a wall the gas can't escape through so you all can get through the front left door even with Isaiah making a hole in the door to escape so you can have up to 10 minutes (assuming concentration holds) before the gas would start gushing out the way you went?
Jun 22, 2024 4:59 am
Maybe I am confused on where we are now. My assumption was that everyone went left? Did that get back tracked?
Jun 22, 2024 11:36 am
I have only seen 2 votes on that so I am waiting to reveal until I know where you all went. Map has not been updated since my assumption yet as voting is still going
Also, to be clear, the doors were slamming shut so fast that they essentially had an initiative of 20, so when it came to running for a door you all had no more time than instincts to use to decide where to run. It's like someone yelling "duck!" And if you didn't IMMEDIATELY duck you would have been hit
Also, to be clear, the doors were slamming shut so fast that they essentially had an initiative of 20, so when it came to running for a door you all had no more time than instincts to use to decide where to run. It's like someone yelling "duck!" And if you didn't IMMEDIATELY duck you would have been hit
Jun 22, 2024 1:22 pm
If we get a move and an action, Isaiah can stone shape the falling left slab, ja?
Jun 22, 2024 1:57 pm
Isaiah was making it clear he was keeping 20 feet behind everyone, but he did make a hole in the door so sure. Keep in mind that if not for how slow PbP forces play to be there would normally be no time to strategize like this with how fast this would normally happen at the table.
Jun 23, 2024 12:11 am
Kadmos was sticking with wherever the newly revived ranger was going. As I recall, he made his initiative check (as did Kadmos) so the DM can decide which way he bolted and that's where Kadmos ran.
Jun 23, 2024 11:53 am
I'm back at PC but can't get any idea of what happened since Isaiah retreat to the bridge ?
Am I split from the rest of the party as everyone made their way forward? If yes, should I post my PC actions in private to DM because other party members have no idea what is Isaiah doing.
P.S. Isaiah was just as surprised as I am as a player about the fact that the hole did not help to disperse the gas. Strategy were based on my false assumption that magic is limited in 5e, but it was my strategy and I am ready to face the consequences of the decision.
Am I split from the rest of the party as everyone made their way forward? If yes, should I post my PC actions in private to DM because other party members have no idea what is Isaiah doing.
P.S. Isaiah was just as surprised as I am as a player about the fact that the hole did not help to disperse the gas. Strategy were based on my false assumption that magic is limited in 5e, but it was my strategy and I am ready to face the consequences of the decision.
Last edited June 23, 2024 12:51 pm
Jun 24, 2024 1:42 pm
If this weren't a one shot that was getting close to the end, I'd probably be a bit more strict about how each player had to make a quick decision and might not have made the same choice as others, but in this case I'm saying it is ok that everyone went the same way. As such, since Omeros and Kironides actually went left and no one else really made it clear which way they went, I'm being more lenient and saying everyone followed their lead and went left.
My understanding of what happened:
All but 2 were able to act fast enough that they could go through a door before it slammed shut. One of those that failed was dimension doored with the caster, and thus their slow action didn't impact them. The other inhaled poison gas but managed to make a hole in the stone door to escape. However, the hole in the stone door means that the gas is escaping through the door, instead of being sealed inside like it was designed to do. Kelnes had the idea to use his Triton racial feature to cast wall of water. Since gas cannot pass through the wall, the hole is effectively sealed until the spell ends, but no one knows how long the room will stay shut for or how long the gas will spill out for at this time. You are all now in other side of the left door, the water keeping the gas from escaping.
My understanding of what happened:
All but 2 were able to act fast enough that they could go through a door before it slammed shut. One of those that failed was dimension doored with the caster, and thus their slow action didn't impact them. The other inhaled poison gas but managed to make a hole in the stone door to escape. However, the hole in the stone door means that the gas is escaping through the door, instead of being sealed inside like it was designed to do. Kelnes had the idea to use his Triton racial feature to cast wall of water. Since gas cannot pass through the wall, the hole is effectively sealed until the spell ends, but no one knows how long the room will stay shut for or how long the gas will spill out for at this time. You are all now in other side of the left door, the water keeping the gas from escaping.
Jun 24, 2024 4:35 pm
Appears I didn't state my question well enough. Let me visualize - This is what Isaiah did
I believe it means:
1. Isaiah is split from the party
2. Party have no problem with poisonous gas as the hole is south, while party north-west.
Did I miss something?
I believe it means:
1. Isaiah is split from the party
2. Party have no problem with poisonous gas as the hole is south, while party north-west.
Did I miss something?
Jun 24, 2024 10:09 pm
One of the areas of misunderstanding, I think, is that what you just explained I already understand and was saying if the party wanted to make this less complicated and say "Since Isaiah was slower than everyone else he could have seen everyone book for the north left door and just went that way instead so you'd be all together". If you really want to say that Isaiah would have booked it back where he came from and now he has to figure out how to rejoin the group, we can do that. In a regular campaign, that might be interesting. In a one-shot that is nearing the end, I'm not going to stress it and I'll leave it up to you guys.
Jun 25, 2024 2:49 am
For narrative purposes (and a better chance at succeeding in our quest), let's just say Isaiah made it onto the left hand path with the rest of us.
Jun 25, 2024 6:59 am
I see now. Thanks for explaining
If I have the rights to decide my PC actions I would like to stay with my original action.
P.S. I want to experience role-playing aspect of 5e even in a one-shot. This this is not a tactical war-game I would be happy to accept my PC decide to run toward the statues that are blowing the poisonous gas and open a hole because he was able to look into future and see how party will be able to prevent getting poisoned.
If I have the rights to decide my PC actions I would like to stay with my original action.
P.S. I want to experience role-playing aspect of 5e even in a one-shot. This this is not a tactical war-game I would be happy to accept my PC decide to run toward the statues that are blowing the poisonous gas and open a hole because he was able to look into future and see how party will be able to prevent getting poisoned.
Jun 25, 2024 1:38 pm
Ok, so I'm going to guess based on Basil and MaJunior going along with things that Isaiah is the only one who didn't go northwest.
This also means that @valdattaMadun you still have your use of wall of water since Isaiah put the hole in the southern door that you didn't go through so you couldn't have used it the way you did as you can't see that door, only the one you all teleported through or slid under just in time.
This also means that @valdattaMadun you still have your use of wall of water since Isaiah put the hole in the southern door that you didn't go through so you couldn't have used it the way you did as you can't see that door, only the one you all teleported through or slid under just in time.
Jun 27, 2024 1:42 pm
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D&D 5e does not have any facing rules.Though I assume you just disagree with tat ruling and want to make them stronger than they are in 5e - in that case please ignore this post.
[ +- ] Medusa per 5e
Medusa Petrifying Gaze is very specifically described explaining that you don't need to close your ayes - you just can't look directly at the target creature, you can still look at any other creature.
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Unless surprised, a creature can avert its eyes to avoid the saving throw at the start of its turn. If the creature does so, it can't see the medusa until the start of its next turn, when it can avert its eyes again. If the creature looks at the medusa in the meantime, it must immediately make the save.Jun 27, 2024 2:30 pm
I just want to be clear, I think we don't mean the same thing by Facing. Facing would be like if we had minis and someone ended their turn saying "my character is facing the direction I have my mini facing". In fact, I know that is now how the game works by default because facing is an option rule in the dmg. See below:
Optional Rule: Facing
If you want the precision of knowing which way a creature is facing, consider using this optional rule.
Whenever a creature ends its move, it can change its facing. Each creature has a front arc (the direction it faces), left and right side arcs, and a rear arc. A creature can also change its facing as a reaction when any other creature moves.
A creature can normally target only creatures in its front or side arcs. It can’t see into its rear arc. This means an attacker in the creature’s rear arc makes attack rolls against it with advantage.
Shields apply their bonus to AC only against attacks from the front arc or the same side arc as the shield. For example, a fighter with a shield on the left arm can use it only against attacks from the front and left arcs.
Feel free to determine that not all creatures have every type of arc. For example, an amorphous ochre jelly could treat all of its arcs as front ones, while a hydra might have three front arcs and one rear one.
On squares, you pick one side of a creature’s space as the direction it is facing. Draw a diagonal line outward from each corner of this side to determine the squares in its front arc. The opposite side of the space determines its rear arc in the same way. The remaining spaces to either side of the creature form its side arcs.
On hexes, determining the front, rear, and side arcs requires more judgment. Pick one side of the creature’s space and create a wedge shape expanding out from there for the front arc, and another on the opposite side of the creature for the rear arc. The remaining spaces to either side of the creature are its side arcs.
A square or hex might be in more than one arc, depending on how you draw the lines from a creature’s space. If more than half of a square or hex lies in one arc, it is in that arc. If it is split exactly down the middle, use this rule: if half of it lies in the front arc, it’s in that arc. If half of it is in a side arc and the rear arc, it’s in the side arc.Since this is an optional rule, this means without this rule in play players are generally looking in all directions for danger. This is the medusa can affect you if you don't look down. You can close your eyes or look down, but since the default rules don't let you say "I am only looking north", it is assumed you might look in her direction in passing if you aren't looking down or closing your eyes.
I hope this ruling isn't going to cause too much friction. This is going to be important against hythonia, as she is a buffed up medusa. I'll put it to a vote, but I guess this should have been talked about from the start. I just assumed everyone thought this way.
[ +- ] Optional Rule from DMG: Facing
Optional Rule: Facing
If you want the precision of knowing which way a creature is facing, consider using this optional rule.
Whenever a creature ends its move, it can change its facing. Each creature has a front arc (the direction it faces), left and right side arcs, and a rear arc. A creature can also change its facing as a reaction when any other creature moves.
A creature can normally target only creatures in its front or side arcs. It can’t see into its rear arc. This means an attacker in the creature’s rear arc makes attack rolls against it with advantage.
Shields apply their bonus to AC only against attacks from the front arc or the same side arc as the shield. For example, a fighter with a shield on the left arm can use it only against attacks from the front and left arcs.
Feel free to determine that not all creatures have every type of arc. For example, an amorphous ochre jelly could treat all of its arcs as front ones, while a hydra might have three front arcs and one rear one.
On squares, you pick one side of a creature’s space as the direction it is facing. Draw a diagonal line outward from each corner of this side to determine the squares in its front arc. The opposite side of the space determines its rear arc in the same way. The remaining spaces to either side of the creature form its side arcs.
On hexes, determining the front, rear, and side arcs requires more judgment. Pick one side of the creature’s space and create a wedge shape expanding out from there for the front arc, and another on the opposite side of the creature for the rear arc. The remaining spaces to either side of the creature are its side arcs.
A square or hex might be in more than one arc, depending on how you draw the lines from a creature’s space. If more than half of a square or hex lies in one arc, it is in that arc. If it is split exactly down the middle, use this rule: if half of it lies in the front arc, it’s in that arc. If half of it is in a side arc and the rear arc, it’s in the side arc.
I hope this ruling isn't going to cause too much friction. This is going to be important against hythonia, as she is a buffed up medusa. I'll put it to a vote, but I guess this should have been talked about from the start. I just assumed everyone thought this way.
How should we handle a medusa's gaze?
Default rules, I have to look down or close my eyes if I don't want to make a save
Optional facing rules (see above)
Hybrid: I can say "I am not looking in the medusa's direction", but anyone fighting from the medusa's side has advantage against me
Jun 28, 2024 5:03 pm
I asked around. It seems RAW you cannot attack from an ally's space. For simplicity sake, i'm trying to go RAW as much as possible, since this is a one shot and we don't have a campaign to smooth things out in. here's what was shared to me:
[ +- ] Jeremy's tweet
Jun 28, 2024 5:17 pm
ok...then I will edit my post. only thing I can do is take the dodge action (and I guess not do anything until Omeros moves)
no ranged options
no ranged options
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