MaJunior says:
valdattaMadun says:
Anyone have thoughts on the "all classes get subclasses at level 3" change...I feel like certain classes might feel odd at first like cleric and warlock but druid/wizard it makes total sense
I agree. Thematically, it doesn't really work for some classes IMO. Which makes me wonder what changes those classes are seeing so that it does (supposedly) work?
I already hate the new Paladin. Wondering what else I may learn to loathe.
Honestly for the classes it is harder to justify (cleric/Warlock) I was trying to figure out HOW to fit it in narratively and I came with this idea:
Cleric
A lot of dieties have more than one domain. If we can assume that the old subclasses are actually backward compatible (use 2024 base and 2014 subclass), I would suggest to my players that they choose a diety and then at level 3 choose one of that dieties Domains.
A cleric of Lathander would then choose Life or Light Domain.
A cleric of Athena would be Knowledge and War
Obviously this doesn't work with some domains/dieties but another idea would be they are more so still finding their way to their specific diety and they are getting their divine powers from the pantheon as a whole until then.
Warlocks
They have been more so getting dreams that manifest their power until level 3. This works with most of the 2024 subclasses at least, Fiends, Celestials, GOO, Fey. This all work great with this set up. Older subclasses...maybe not.