OSR Interest Check

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Feb 7, 2025 6:18 am
Interest Check:
Exploring the OSR

Hello folks! With the influx of new players to gamersplane.com recently, there's been some solid thought put towards how we can all make the community an even more vibrant and welcoming place. My little part of that? Running some OSR style games for people who are new to the site, or perhaps just new to that style of play.

I'll start things off with this OSR Interest Check thread, but I'll move to a specific game and scenario for recruitment once I have an idea of how many folks are interested, and in which games.

Some gamers struggle with "OSR" (Old School Renaissance / Revival) as a tag or descriptor for games, and while it does mean different things to different people to a degree, I find it really sums up some specific things I love to see in my fantasy rpgs.
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Here's a quick breakdown of what I mean by the term, in the context of what I'm hoping to run on GP:

Rulings Over Rules
I'll generally stick to the rules as written, though I might house rule certain things I feel are missing from the ruleset -- for example, if there are no rules for rolling a natural 20, or a Natural 1... I'll add some. You'll see that many of these systems just don't cover all the corner cases other RPGs do -- swimming, falling, chases, grappling, aiming, holding your breath -- and on and on. OSR games favor "rulings over rules," which means the GM has the ability to make situational, on-the-fly rulings as the need arises.

Simple and Flexible Systems
With these types of games, I prefer simple and elegant core mechanics that leave plenty of room for player creativity and improvisation. You won't be told you can't do something because you don't have the right Feat on your character sheet or there's no precise "action" that fits what you're trying to do.

High-Stakes Lethality
The games can be deadly, and combat is often either a last resort or something you want to prepare carefully for. Decisions can have lasting consequences, and it pays to not get too attached to characters in the early stages of the game. Also keep in mind that combat encounters are absolutely not balanced -- you can and will run into foes you should not fight head-on.

Player Skill is Emphasized
Strive to interact with the environment around your character in clever and resourceful ways. Be creative -- the answer will not be on your sheet, typically.

Emergent Worlds and Stories
We can certainly 'ground' the game in a known fantasy world or do work up-front to create one, but narratives and the setting itself often take shape from the play, emerging naturally. Many OSR systems and adventures also come packed with random tables that can really help flavor the game and build this stuff out.

When you get right down to it, OSR play doesn't necessarily look a lot like how people actually played in the 70s and 80s. Some of us believe that's a good thing, and that the attractive bit is actually that OSR games represent an improved and idealized way to play in an old school style. It's nostalgic, but it's better. And for those just starting to dabble in this style of play, it can be a joyous exploration because it can be so different from prior gaming experiences you might have had.

All that crap above, of course, is just my take.
[ +- ] A few intrepid souls are still with me? Well, know that I've got my own quirks as a GM...

Regardless of what I end up running, some basics will always apply...

Inclusivity: My games are explicitly friendly to the LGBT community, people of color and any other minorities or marginalized groups.
Safety Tools: X-Card, Lines & Veils
Subject Matter Warnings: Violence, Brutality, Gore, Murder, Enslavement, Discrimination, Fuedalism, Mild Sexy Times, Mean Nobles, Intolerant Priests, Slavering Monsters, Pus, Bile, you get the idea.
Scope of Game: A single short module, dungeon, or scenario
Duration of Game: A few months
Expected Posting Rate: Daily
Alright -- so let's see what systems people might have interest in.

Vote for as many or as few as you like, and then post below about your experience with OSR games and what you'd like to get out of the experience.

What OSR systems are you most interested in? Multi Public

Beyond the Wall
By This Axe I Hack
Cairn 2e
Dungeon Goons or Tunnel Goons
DURF
Knave 2e
MÖRK BORG
Outcast Silver Raiders
Shadowdark
Macchiato Monsters
The Black Hack
White Box Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game
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Feb 7, 2025 6:34 am
Hi Harrigan! OK I am not new to OSR, but I am fairly new to the site. If you intend this game as a total newb intro, I might not be the best fit. But if you're open, I'd be up for playing!
Feb 7, 2025 6:47 am
Not sure if I count as a new player on GP, (is there a cut off date for that? LOL) but I would definitely love to play. I also have a fair bit of experience with OSR style games.

I am planning to run a game myself eventually, so I will definitely be keeping an eye on the poll no matter what.
Feb 7, 2025 7:46 am
Dropped a couple of votes for the systems I like the most! I think what appeals to me about the OSR is the grounded nature in both story and setting - you're trying to make a place for yourself in the world, rather than saving it, and the world carries on regardless. With how eager the OSR/NSR community is to hack and tinker with elfgames, there's always something new to discover.

I'm quite full up on games right this moment, so please don't count this as a commitment, but I might have space for one more in the future!
Feb 7, 2025 8:43 am
Heads up — I just added a game I forgot to include in the poll initially: O.S.R. And that appears to have bumped a few votes around…

Apologies, but you three who voted already should revisit and check your chits!
Feb 7, 2025 9:55 am
I've honestly been browsing the tavern for a Mörk Borg game for a while now and am also thinking about running one myself if none show up :D
That second part would have to wait till next month though.

The other ones your mention here, @Harrigan, I don't really know. If any of them follow the same vibe, I'd be up for that.
Feb 7, 2025 10:00 am
I have zero experience with OSR games, but based on this explanation and a bit of looking into it myself, it seems pretty interesting! I’m particularly a fan of the higher-stakes, simpler/ruling-prioritized systems and focus on exploration. This style of play is new and exciting (to me) and I’m interested to see what it can create.
Feb 7, 2025 10:17 am
I am a new player with zero OSR experience. I would be interested in simply learning and exploring whatever system was settled upon.
Feb 7, 2025 11:31 am
You had me at "Hello folks!"
Feb 7, 2025 12:29 pm
The only system I could say is actually OSR that I have experience with is Mork Borg. I've ran CY_BORG and Frontier Scum before. Both were a great time, so I'm a fan. I don't really know anything about other OSR systems, but I'm interested in trying them regardless.
Feb 7, 2025 3:22 pm
The only exposure to OSR I've had is what I've seen since joining GP. I would like to join a newbie-friendly OSR game as I feel hesitant to apply to those types of games since I don't want to slow down the gameplay.
Feb 7, 2025 5:17 pm
There are great options for gaming here!
Feb 7, 2025 5:50 pm
Always wanted to try Beyond The Wall. If I wasn't in so many games and not new ....
Sigh

Anyway, great slate of games on offer!
Feb 7, 2025 8:13 pm
Looks like a pretty decent amount of interest already — more than enough for a couple of games. I’ll hopefully end up running a few of these short scenarios in succession, so don’t despair if you don’t end up in whatever game ends up being first. (Trust me. There will be plenty of time to despair once you’re *in* one of my OSR games.)

Interesting to see where the ballots are being cast…
Feb 7, 2025 8:22 pm
I'm not new to GP, but I've always wanted to try OSR, back when the dungeon is the game, gold = experience, and level titles were a thing. The only system I have any knowledge of is 1st edition DND, though I have hear of Mork Borg.
Feb 7, 2025 10:08 pm
I’m interested. New to the site and keen to get into some shorter games so this would be a great fit.
Feb 7, 2025 10:18 pm
Hmmm, SudoDragon... Linux based Pseudodragon?
Feb 7, 2025 11:22 pm
OSR rules!! I was in a Beyond the Wall game a few months ago but it fell through. I am in a By This Axe I hack now and also was in a Shadowdark Halloween adventure that was cool. Also I haven't been here quite a year yet so I could be new. Hahahaha
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Feb 8, 2025 1:18 am
I'm interested in general but i haven't played any of the systems so I won't vote for one LOL
Feb 8, 2025 1:52 am
Top choices around Cairn, Knave, and Beyond the Wall. Haven't gotten to try any of those yet. I've gotten to DM Shadowdark but haven't played a character yet, so would love to give that a try as well. Not sure I can count myself as new to OSR or GP anymore, but this is all up my alley.
Feb 8, 2025 2:39 am
Also! One of the outcomes here could be another GP GM stepping forward to run one of these as well...
Feb 8, 2025 5:36 am
Harrigan says:
Also! One of the outcomes here could be another GP GM stepping forward to run one of these as well...
Hopefully yes, this kind of initiative is only sustainable when a group of GMs emerge.
Feb 8, 2025 6:38 am
I'll absolutely consider running some "short" games after my vacation at the end of the month! Shadowdark is my jam, and I'm neither new here nor new to the OSR.
Feb 8, 2025 7:51 am
Alright, everybody stand in a line and the GMs will take turns picking you one by one.
We're doing old school-rules right? 😁

KCC

Feb 8, 2025 8:51 am
You think you’re getting a Harrigan game, but then you get lumped into a KCC game.

I can’t think of much worse!
Feb 8, 2025 9:46 am
KCC says:
You think you’re getting a Harrigan game, but then you get lumped into a KCC game.

I can’t think of much worse!
Interesting Hybrid :)
Feb 8, 2025 2:52 pm
Like many, I am not new to the site, and I am definitely not new to OSR, which is the type of game that made me go back to the hobby a few years back. So I might not be the right target for your advertisement, and as I am already involved in plenty enough games IRL and online, I will probably pass on this one despite how appealing it is. Still I voted for Knave 2e, Shadowdark and The Black Hack though, because these are the rulesets which interest me the most among those that I know in your list.

Maybe one thing you failed to mention in your (own) definition if the OSR: all these games are heavily inspired by early versions of D&D, even if some take some good ideas from later iterations. It is not obvious in all circles, so I thought I would point it out.
Feb 8, 2025 4:04 pm
We can just use this here digital tent city to gather up all OSR players and GMs if people want! Initially at least, I'll stick to the idea of running games for people who are new to the OSR or new to the site -- but perhaps this let's some other folks see how much interest there is in these games.
KCC says:
You think you’re getting a Harrigan game, but then you get lumped into a KCC game.

I can’t think of much worse!
Oh please. KCC runs a great game, people!
kwll says:
Maybe one thing you failed to mention in your (own) definition if the OSR: all these games are heavily inspired by early versions of D&D, even if some take some good ideas from later iterations. It is not obvious in all circles, so I thought I would point it out.
Well, to be fair there's a *lot* I left out -- kind of depends on the circles you run in, the OSR phase, etc. Indeed, old D&D (typically OD&D, AD&D, B/X) is at the heart of many of these games, but certainly not all of them. There's a whole British OSR movement (see: Troika!, Warlock!, etc.) and a lot of the new OSR / NSR games owe much, much less to the initial TSR products. Also, note above how lightly retroclones are represented in my list. That's purposeful. :)
Conscious that not everyone knows these terms and acronyms, so...

NSR = New School Renaissance or Revival

OD&D = Original Dungeons & Dragons, published in 1974 and added onto via supplements and articles through the 70s.

Basic D&D = The first Basic Set, by Eric Holmes

AD&D = First edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons

B/X = The Basic / Expert set put out in 1981. Bedrock in the OSR, this is the Tom Moldvay edition, not the Holmes (1977) or Mentzer (1983) version

BECMI = Basic, Expert, Companion, Masters, Immortal -- basically the 1983 Basic set by Frank Mentzer that got expanded throughout the 80s

Retroclones = Modern clean-ups, adaptations, re-statements and takes on the games above. Classic retroclones include (White Box (OD&D), Swords & Wizardry (OD&D + supplements), Blueholme (1977 Basic Set), OSRIC (AD&D), Labyrinth Lord (B/X), OSE (B/X), Dark Dungeons (BECMI). This is the tip of a vast iceberg, though.
Feb 8, 2025 4:50 pm
Glad to see so many responses. Only played Knave (1e) and The Black Hack. I've been relying on Harrigan's Hearth to learn about less well known games, particularly OSR, of which I see a few of those represented here. Have to wait and see what comes to fruition and how many slots are open to GP vets. (I'm a vet, right? I've been here for almost two years. That counts, right? ;-)
Feb 8, 2025 4:54 pm
Certainly good to see that there is some love or the OSR here. Especially for the non-retroclones. I was half afraid I would never escape Basic Fantasy.

I still want to get in to GMing, but I am kind of stuck on getting started. I have a few solid elevator pitches, but I am unable to pick one and develop it. I also tried to use Cairns setting generator, with mixed results. it does work, but I kind of dislike the results. The implied setting is just a bit to whimsical for my taste.

Right now I am digging though the The Gygax 75 Challenge. I had this thing sitting on my hard drive for ages and I think it is finally time to bust it out.

This got me thinking, is there is any interest in hosting a little workshop here? My idea is to just create a "game" where we just work through the challenge, exchange ideas and advice along the way and finally end up with several people ready to run a game. The "game" would be set to private, so no spoilers end up on the general forums.

Please let me know if there is any interest for this.
Feb 8, 2025 5:23 pm
Yes, more OSR!

I've got an ongoing OSR series with a regular group (started with Warlock!, played Mothership, are now juicing a DCC module for everything it's worth), and am hoping this 'newcomer-friendly' series will take off and I'll get 2-3 groups through adventures each year. (Even my quick-burn games aren't that fast-paced. I love cool RPing scenes and characters interactions too much.)

Point being, other GMs should join in! Run that game / workshop Aline! If you want my participation, I'm down to help. I know all too well the drag retroclones can be for some of us, that too much whimsy in a setting can really t-bone the tone if that's not what you're after, and that while various generators can provide awesome results, they can take some skill and experience to really get good results from.

I'm happy to be a sounding board for people generally with regards to the OSR. I don't really know my arse from a hole in the ground any better than anyone else does on this stuff, but I'm not short on opinions!
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Feb 8, 2025 6:43 pm
Aline says:
This got me thinking, is there is any interest in hosting a little workshop here? My idea is to just create a "game" where we just work through the challenge, exchange ideas and advice along the way and finally end up with several people ready to run a game. The "game" would be set to private, so no spoilers end up on the general forums.

Please let me know if there is any interest for this.
There's a Writers Workshop here, so I don't see why there can't be a GMs Workshop.

As a suggestion, in the Worlds Without Number rulebook (you can find a free PDF on DriveThruRPG.com), there's a whole list of tables for creating adventuress: adventure seeds, plot twists, creating combat challenges and complications, settlements, exploration challenges, investigation challenges, social challenges, treasure placement and so on. It's systemless, so that makes it easy to use no matter what fantasy game you're using. I know that there are other books out there (not free), but WWN is the one I'm most familiar with.

Len

Feb 8, 2025 11:17 pm
Wow, great to see so much interest in OSR/NSR games. I'll throw my hat in the GM pool as well. Looking forward to coordinating with the other GMs to make sure we cover the interests and numbers of people. I'd be most interested in running a Cairn 2e or Black Sword Hack adventure.
Feb 8, 2025 11:33 pm
I've been itching to run something like this for a while, too. If there are enough players I'd be happy to set up and run a third game based on something that is left and has sufficient interest.
Feb 9, 2025 3:13 am
Sweet! Thanks for any assistance with this, cowleyc, Len, Q -- and anyone I've missed or who is still lurking in the OSR GM shadows.

The hats being thrown into the ring have slowed, so I'll take a look at how it's all shaking out tonight or tomorrow. I don't think I'll be getting anything off the ground before the end of the month (I have vacation coming up, a con game to prep and run, and a new campaign to start for one of my live groups), but I bet I can already pick a group of players, a system and an adventure to start with soon.

KCC

Feb 9, 2025 3:55 am
Operation Whitebox, when?
Feb 9, 2025 4:40 am
GM lurking in the OSR shadows? Why sure, let's get some intro games going for our new friends! Here for Mörk Borg.
Feb 9, 2025 7:00 am
I'll throw my hat in to GM an OSR game as well.
Feb 9, 2025 3:48 pm
Woohoo -- there will be many games!
KCC says:
Operation Whitebox, when?
That's a different thread, my friend. And the answer will likely be when we can find more than you who wants to play it!
Feb 9, 2025 5:07 pm
KCC says:
Operation Whitebox, when?
Have never played but would surely interested.
Feb 9, 2025 5:56 pm
mathias0077 says:
Have never played but would surely interested.
You're familiar with the game / WWII commandos angle?
Feb 9, 2025 7:04 pm
I'm more familiar with NSR (FKR) style play than OSR. I'm not new to GP, but I've also not played in many games here. I think playing an OSR game would be fun and I'd love to learn about it through play.
Feb 9, 2025 8:13 pm
Harrigan says:
mathias0077 says:
Have never played but would surely interested.
You're familiar with the game / WWII commandos angle?
No I did not know that. I am former military though.
Feb 9, 2025 8:53 pm
squid says:
I'm more familiar with NSR (FKR) style play than OSR. I'm not new to GP, but I've also not played in many games here. I think playing an OSR game would be fun and I'd love to learn about it through play.
Hey squid, I wondered if you might surface. I'm purposefully not getting into the weeds here on the OSR / NuOSR, Neo-OSR, OSR-Adjacent / NSR / FKR / etc. quibbles. The same overall spirit runs through this stuff, and I think simply saying "Non-Retroclone OSR" is fairly effective for what I'm trying to do.
Feb 10, 2025 8:26 am
Alright! Let's marshal our first group, for a Cairn 2e game.

@Drgwen
@Aline
@SudoDragon
@Squid
@quilltid

Please confirm that you're interested here and I'll get invites to the game out this week. As mentioned above this game won't be formally launching until close to the end of the month, but we can spend some time character building, getting to know one another, and figuring out what we all want from the game. Cool?

Other OSR GMs, thanks for the support here. Feel free to continue using this thread to keep marshaling and forming up games!
Feb 10, 2025 10:14 am
Sounds great, I’m in! Looking forward to it.
Feb 10, 2025 12:01 pm
Me too! Looking forward to playing.
Feb 10, 2025 1:19 pm
@Harrigan, I'm in! Looking forward to it.
Feb 10, 2025 2:03 pm
Appreciate the invite and looking forward to playing with everyone!
Feb 10, 2025 3:44 pm
Same here. Very much looking forward to this.
Feb 12, 2025 6:24 am
Invites out, peeps. We won't get going right away as I said, but we can certainly shoot the bull about what we all want out of the experience and such. Be on the lookout for invites!
Feb 12, 2025 4:25 pm
Some folks mentioned not getting an invite, so here’s the game

Let me know if you have trouble!
Feb 17, 2025 1:02 pm
With Harrigan starting up his Cairn 2e game, and The Generator setting up a Mork Borg one, I'm just pinging here to make sure there's still interest lined up for another OSR game!
Feb 17, 2025 1:33 pm
Same! I have been working on a Dark Sun game using World Without Number rules. If anyone's interested let me know! Looking for players new to GP or to Dark Sun/WWN.
Feb 17, 2025 2:07 pm
I may be depending on the game, both game system and the story, as well as GM but I I know botb of you are great GM's so that's at least one less thing I have to evaluate.
Feb 17, 2025 4:15 pm
Unfortunately I don't think we have an easy way to tell which OSR interested players who answered the poll haven't gotten into those two games. But there were some other games with lots of interest.

Beyond the Wall
Knave 2e
Shadowdark
Black Hack
Feb 17, 2025 4:29 pm
I'm still planning on running a Shadowdark game early March.
Feb 17, 2025 4:33 pm
nezzeraj says:
Same! I have been working on a Dark Sun game using World Without Number rules. If anyone's interested let me know! Looking for players new to GP or to Dark Sun/WWN.
I just watched a You Tube breakdown of Worlds Without Numbers and it sounds very interesting. I would be in for a game.
Feb 17, 2025 5:00 pm
mathias0077 says:
nezzeraj says:
Same! I have been working on a Dark Sun game using World Without Number rules. If anyone's interested let me know! Looking for players new to GP or to Dark Sun/WWN.
I just watched a You Tube breakdown of Worlds Without Numbers and it sounds very interesting. I would be in for a game.
@mathias0077 I have a WWN game right now that is about to be recruiting a new player, as one had to step out. Check it out, and see if you're interested! End Days of Latter Earth
Feb 17, 2025 6:25 pm
I be still interested Dark Sun game using World without numbers rules. I only have the free version of World without numbers. Sun Dark is my interest.
Feb 17, 2025 8:22 pm
cowleyc says:
mathias0077 says:
nezzeraj says:
Same! I have been working on a Dark Sun game using World Without Number rules. If anyone's interested let me know! Looking for players new to GP or to Dark Sun/WWN.
I just watched a You Tube breakdown of Worlds Without Numbers and it sounds very interesting. I would be in for a game.
@mathias0077 I have a WWN game right now that is about to be recruiting a new player, as one had to step out. Check it out, and see if you're interested! End Days of Latter Earth
Thanks cowley but I think I will stay with others unfamiliar and learning as I am. Plus Dark Sun sounds very deadly and fun.
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Feb 17, 2025 8:33 pm
No worries, I'll probably be applying to that one, too!

Len

Feb 18, 2025 12:16 am
I'm planning on running a Cairn 2e game version of the popular "Black Wyrm of Brandonsford" adventure, since I am running it in person as well. I may try to advertise it on the Cairn discord to draw people here if there aren't enough new players interested.
Feb 18, 2025 1:35 am
Len says:
I'm planning on running a Cairn 2e game version of the popular "Black Wyrm of Brandonsford" adventure, since I am running it in person as well. I may try to advertise it on the Cairn discord to draw people here if there aren't enough new players interested.
I'm sure plenty of us are interested!
Feb 18, 2025 6:56 am
Len says:
I'm planning on running a Cairn 2e game version of the popular "Black Wyrm of Brandonsford" adventure, since I am running it in person as well. I may try to advertise it on the Cairn discord to draw people here if there aren't enough new players interested.
That's in the running for what I end up going with as well. ;)

(No surprise as it's one of my favorite modules and one of my players knows Winter's Daughter...)

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