Getting the Ducks all in a Row

May 8, 2025 12:01 am
FORNICE/Mora/Spinward Marches. Ground Port 2A servicing the Arcology of Port-au-Prince. 0800, April 8, Imperial year 1115.

(Time to Get Organized!
OOC:
Honestly, things are pretty chaotic for me and clearly for some of the new players as well. Its hard to follow what is going on over several threads. This particular thread should be limited to administrative details like assigning crew quarters, determining a ship's command-hierarchy and job assignments. Please, no trade talk here.

It will help me a lot to have "department heads" who can make decisions and then declare what for sure is being done. For instance, there's been talk of looking for passengers and though it seems relatively certain that you're headed to Jokotre, that has not been formalized with the filing of a jump-plan with the Port Captain. So until that is accomplished no passengers are going to sign up.
Please recall that any given character can only dedicate themselves to a limited number of tasks. I feel like we've gotten way ahead of ourselves! I mean, I'm glad that we're eager to get going, but it would help if we had assignments formalized.

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CREW MEETING AGENDA

Assign Quarters.
Decide on Department Heads, (perhaps) elect a Captain?
Assign primary and secondary jobs
Formalize shares or salary/other compensation arrangements.

It is assumed that new characters have done the formalities; signed the ship's log and had their biometrics recorded to assure access to ship and crew areas. Crew will also be recorded by the Port Captain (or their representative) when they inspect and sign off on the log. (There is both a physical and digital log-book!)
OOC:
more could still be added! work in progress
May 8, 2025 12:12 am
The winged reptiliode is unreadable except for a slight shimmer/flutter of the wings and a toothy 'smile' perhaps made in imitation of human behavior.

"Greetings! I am Decherrek. Number One best passenger and also student of Imperium Economics and Sophont Behaviours. Very interesting. Former skip-tracer and repossession-agent. Still on contract with First Bank of Fornice, so doing some work for them, too!

"I will help you as I can. Make suggestions. Give advice. Or stay in stateroom if you get sick of me! Much to learn either way.

"So, some unsolicited advice. Merchant Ship usually organized with two main 'sections', Flight and Commerce. Crew have duties in both.

"Flight have Captain, Pilot, Navigator, Engineer, Medic, Purser/head-steward. You not have ship weapons, so no Gunnery Chief.

"Sometimes crew have multiple roles. Captain-Navigator. Medic-Steward. Engineer-bottlewasher.

"Department heads have others, helpers. Chief Engineer have Assistant Engineer, and Engineer Technician (mechanic/electronics/gravitics) maybe.

"Perhaps same sort of arrangement for Commerce. Captain. Purser(passengers). Broker(speculative trade). Etcetera.

"Your ship, your organizations. How you want. But no organization? Chaos! Not good for business. In my experience..."
May 8, 2025 12:59 am
OOC:

Based upon original crew assignments and the new characters how does this sound for chains of command and some of the roles. I'm a little more vague on the last few but given the known skills of the new characters here is a starting suggestion:

Flight Crew:
- (Head) Pilot: Tharrok (T-Jive)
- Navigator/Legal Counsel: LC Rains
- Assistant Crew: Leilani

Engineering:
- (Head) Chief Engineer: Llogan Tamm
- Assistant Engineer: Bronz Bautista
- Mechanic: Rin

Others:
- Medical Officer / Steward: Said Ma
- Broker: Alice
- Broker / Steward: Lu Yam

Comments?
May 8, 2025 1:12 am
OOC:

Hopefully, this is similar to previous arrangements (if not adjust accordingly).

Suggested Staterooms:

- (4A): Tharrok (T-Jive)
- (4B): LC Rains
- (4 Shared): Leilani
- (4 Shared): Alice
- (4C): Said Ma

- (4F): Llogan Tamm
- (4E): Bronz Bautista
- (4D): Rin

- (2F): Lu Yam
- (2E): Decherrek
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May 8, 2025 2:08 am
dabaggins says:
OOC:

Based upon original crew assignments and the new characters how does this sound for chains of command and some of the roles. I'm a little more vague on the last few but given the known skills of the new characters here is a starting suggestion:
OOC:
I would rather have this discussed in character if possible.
May 8, 2025 2:13 am
CREW MEETING AGENDA

Assign Quarters. DaB's assignments look good to me.

Decide on Department Heads, (perhaps) elect a Captain? I prefer the original crew be the Department Heads. Tamm would be Head of Engineering (Chief Engineer), Bronz 2nd Engineer & Ring 3rd Engineer/Maintenance Tech. Elect a Captain? Tamm will nominate LC. Do I have a second?

Assign primary and secondary jobs Tamm 1⁰ Engineering, 2⁰ Maintenance

Formalize shares or salary/other compensation arrangements.
How much per share again, cr62,000? I'd like everyone to receive a salary then buy shares as possible.

Of course, these ideas are (Strong) suggestions. We should talk about these ideas yet I'd like to come to a consensus by Saturday 10 May.
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May 8, 2025 2:16 am
Muns says:
OOC:
I would rather have this discussed in character if possible.
OOC:

Feel free to start. 😊

I don't see Bronz as the organizing type nor used to setting up any sort of command but he will chime in if someone else starts the discussion.
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May 8, 2025 2:17 am
After listening to Decherrek and Bronz, LC says;
"I think Decherrek suggestion has merit Bronz, may we have the crew broken into two sections for the two functions of our ship. I think it is a good idea of the Flight and Commerce Divisions. I think the engineering sections falls into the Flight Division as its function supports flight ops. The Commerce Division has responsibility for cargo and passengers. Right?"

LC looks around for a moment and then adds;
"It might be best if we select a Captain first...." he grins at Bronz.....
May 8, 2025 2:21 am
Bronz glances around at the others. He’s not entirely sure it’s the best call—but looking at the faces around him, he doesn’t see anyone else stepping up.

"Yeah," he says with a nod. "I’ll second LC for captain."
May 8, 2025 2:26 am
dabaggins says:
OOC:

Hopefully, this is similar to previous arrangements (if not adjust accordingly).

Suggested Staterooms:

- (4A): Tharrok (T-Jive)
- (4B): LC Rains
- (4 Shared): Leilani
- (4 Shared): Alice
- (4C): Said Ma

- (4F): Llogan Tamm
- (4E): Bronz Bautista
- (4D): Rin

- (2F): Lu Yam
- (2E): Decherrek
This looks acceptable
May 8, 2025 2:34 am
Mama puts in her 2 creds worth, "I will support LC as ships captain. I would offer my services as chief medical office and second in command."
May 8, 2025 1:45 pm
Tamm looks over at Dr. Ma when she offers to serve as second in command. He nods his head but it's hard to tell if his nod means he approves of the Doctor as Number 1 or if he's simply acknowledging the Doctor's offer.

"Tamm like idea of two divisions as a formality. Crew help each other as needed like we did before."
OOC:
The New Players should speak up about what role(s) they'd like to take. I suppose we should elect a Captain first so new players, please think about your character's roles.
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May 8, 2025 7:43 pm
LC's reaction to being nominated (or elected) as captain of the Athelstone. It's written in LC’s signature voice—wry, diplomatic, just a little dramatic, and full of reluctant charm.

LC Rains leans back slowly in his chair, a datapad still in one hand—paused mid-scroll as the weight of the crew’s words sinks in. He glances around the common room of the Athelstone, eyes flicking from Said Ma’s calm gaze to Bronz’s quiet nod, from Tamm’s stoic posture to Tharrok’s attentive ears.

"So... Captain, is it?" he says, his voice somewhere between amusement and disbelief.

"Now, don’t get me wrong—flattered, truly. Deeply. Moved, even." He taps the datapad against his palm thoughtfully. "But I just want to make sure we all understand what’s happening here. You’re asking me—former law clerk, starport customs liaison, short term prisoner of the Driantia Zhdantia (Zhodani Consulate), Navigator and one-time insurance fraud investigator—to sit in the big chair and wear the big title."

He sets the pad down gently, eyes sweeping across the table.

"Let me be clear: I’m not the best pilot on this ship. I don’t know how to recalibrate a fusion manifold or reroute life support through a gravitic bypass. If the hull breaches, I’m as likely to quote subsector liability clauses as I am to grab a patch kit."

A beat. Then a grin.

"But I do know how to keep the banks off our backs, how to make smugglers smile and inspectors look the other way. I can sell ice to a belt miner, turn a paper trail into a profit margin, and talk our way out of a hostile boarding party with nothing but a commlink and a contract."

He stands now, smoothing the front of his jacket—a subtle, deliberate motion.

"If that’s the sort of Captain this crew wants… if you’re all quite sure you want to hand me the metaphorical keys to the bridge—then I’ll accept."

"But I don’t lead alone. This ship flies because each of you is bloody brilliant at what you do. You want me to steer the paperwork and handle the heat—fine. But the Athelstone is ours. Equal shares. Equal stakes. We rise, we burn, or we coast—together."

He reaches for his tea, gives a mock salute with the mug.

"Now, someone remind me—does this mean I have to start wearing a hat?"
May 8, 2025 11:17 pm
Prison time, huh. Bronz had figured as much about LC—not that he had much room to judge. His own record was clean, but only because he’d never been caught. He’d told himself he was done with that life… though lately, he was starting to wonder if it ever really lets go.

Still, everything they were doing now was above-board. He hoped it stayed that way.

At LC’s comment about the captain’s hat, Bronz let a faint smirk slip through. "Not unless you want to start sweeping Lu-Yam’s broadsword."

He noticed the new crew keeping quiet. He remembered that feeling—not long ago, he’d been the new one too. He wasn’t big on small talk, but maybe a little direction wouldn’t hurt.

He turned to Rin. "Looks like you’re with me in engineering. Tamm’s not too bad to work under."

To Leilani: "You’re flight crew, right?"

Then to Alice and Lu-Yam: "Guess that puts you two in commercial?"

He paused, giving them space. "I’m just a deckhand. Maybe you’ve got better ideas on where you fit."
May 8, 2025 11:54 pm
Bronz said, "Looks like you’re with me in engineering. Tamm’s not too bad to work under."

Tamm speaks up, We all take our turns. Three standard eight hour shifts is a standard day.

His tone is ambiguous and his example is very obvious. What is Tamm trying to say?
May 9, 2025 12:24 am
"Yes, Bronz", Alice responds glancing at Lu-Yam and smiling, "I guess it does, and I for one am happy in that role"
May 9, 2025 12:25 am
OOC:
Ah, Llogan and Alice got their first as I was writing this!
The Captain does not neccessarily pilot the ship. The Captain makes decisions, the helmsman pilots. Of course, one person can do both jobs. But it is actually a bit unusual to have a Captain-pilot.

The bridge has four stations. Typically Helmsman (pilot), Navigator, Captain (commander) and often gunnery chief. Sometimes an Engineer in the 4th seat. Quick and direct communications between crew are important.

You might organize as "watches" since you have plentiful crew. Two 12-hour shifts or even three 8-hour.

(Decherrek used to sit at one of the bridge stations but he won't do that anymore unless invited!)
May 9, 2025 12:27 am
OOC:
Has the shares/compensation part of this operation been decided on?
May 9, 2025 2:27 am
playbydave says:
OOC:
Has the shares/compensation part of this operation been decided on?
OOC:
The shares are all equal at this point with all the old players put in the profit to pay for their Cr62K and the new players based on your GM most gracious award that all the new members had Cr62K in the bank accounts that allowed them to 'buy' a share.....unless I am missing something?
BIC
When Bronz expression changes when LC mentions his time as a non-paying resident Guest of the Consolidate, he grimaces just for a second for a sec...

LC looks at Decherrek and says "You (pointing at Decherrek) Mister high passage paying customer! You gets dibs on your stateroom, but be quick!"
LC hesitates and then quickly adds
"But out of the airlock with you if we catch you running any unauthorize programs through any ship's terminal."

Looking at everyone else,
"So is it official?, last chance?"

"Okay then, I will get the paperwork to the bank with Decherrek and get this official!"
May 9, 2025 2:30 am
OOC:
Consider the Merchant Charter official with the new name as soon as the poll closes at the end of the weekend. Ok?
May 9, 2025 4:00 am
Muns says:
LC's reaction to being nominated (or elected) as captain of the Athelstone. It's written in LC’s signature voice—wry, diplomatic, just a little dramatic, and full of reluctant charm.

LC Rains leans back slowly in his chair, a datapad still in one hand—paused mid-scroll as the weight of the crew’s words sinks in. He glances around the common room of the Athelstone, eyes flicking from Said Ma’s calm gaze to Bronz’s quiet nod, from Tamm’s stoic posture to Tharrok’s attentive ears.

"So... Captain, is it?" he says, his voice somewhere between amusement and disbelief.

"Now, don’t get me wrong—flattered, truly. Deeply. Moved, even." He taps the datapad against his palm thoughtfully. "But I just want to make sure we all understand what’s happening here. You’re asking me—former law clerk, starport customs liaison, short term prisoner of the Driantia Zhdantia (Zhodani Consulate), Navigator and one-time insurance fraud investigator—to sit in the big chair and wear the big title."

He sets the pad down gently, eyes sweeping across the table.

"Let me be clear: I’m not the best pilot on this ship. I don’t know how to recalibrate a fusion manifold or reroute life support through a gravitic bypass. If the hull breaches, I’m as likely to quote subsector liability clauses as I am to grab a patch kit."

A beat. Then a grin.

"But I do know how to keep the banks off our backs, how to make smugglers smile and inspectors look the other way. I can sell ice to a belt miner, turn a paper trail into a profit margin, and talk our way out of a hostile boarding party with nothing but a commlink and a contract."

He stands now, smoothing the front of his jacket—a subtle, deliberate motion.

"If that’s the sort of Captain this crew wants… if you’re all quite sure you want to hand me the metaphorical keys to the bridge—then I’ll accept."

"But I don’t lead alone. This ship flies because each of you is bloody brilliant at what you do. You want me to steer the paperwork and handle the heat—fine. But the Athelstone is ours. Equal shares. Equal stakes. We rise, we burn, or we coast—together."

He reaches for his tea, gives a mock salute with the mug.

"Now, someone remind me—does this mean I have to start wearing a hat?"
Tharrok’s ear flicks a couple of times. "I'm the pilot. I fly the ship."
May 9, 2025 1:42 pm
"Pilot, Engineer, Computer Engineer, Deck Sweeper and list maker, got it!" she bit her tongue rather than use the Solomani term dog's body; some Vagr were a little touchy about such things!

"I know this sector pretty well as well, grew up on Mora and served in the 73rd. Oh, and I guess the whole noble title might be of some use sometimes!"
May 9, 2025 5:03 pm
Tamm nods his head when Leilani finishes describing her skills.

A dedicated Computer Engineer would be useful.
May 9, 2025 10:59 pm
OOC:
Hey folks! Being a Bear of little brain, I am getting so confused with all the forums and where we ought to be posting! Leilani and I have been assigned the same quarters and I want to introduce myself to her, but where in this universe of sub-forums am I supposed to do that? :-(
May 9, 2025 11:00 pm
Packratt66 says:

Tharrok’s ear flicks a couple of times. "I'm the pilot. I fly the ship."
LC Looks at T-Jive;
"Of course, I was speaking metaphorically during my acceptance speech."

Looking at the T-Jive square on "Make no mistake, YOU are the pilot. I am not."

LC looks like he is thinking and quickly adds;
"We have Leilani that can second as the pilot and be your back-up during in system piloting. That makes the T-Jive the Flight Division Chief with as Bronz outlined, Leilani and computer systems tech and myself as the Captain-Navigator"

LC turns to Tamm, Rin and of course Bronz

"Tamm it looks like you have engineering section under control with Bronz and Rin."


Looking at Said Ma, Alice and Lu-Yam
"And of course Ma-Ma is in charge of the Commerce Division with Alice and Lu-Yam."

LC look at the displayed tasks for the crew and goes through them checking them off the Trivid display for the crew;

"So we have elected the Captain..., assigned rooms, the crew positions, and everyone has an equal shares. Did I forget anything?"

Looking at Alice, Said-Ma and Bronz...then to Decherrek who provided the most input.
OOC:
Insert crappy AI image
https://i.imgur.com/RcQDbf6.jpeg
May 9, 2025 11:10 pm
OOC:
That's really not a bad picture! I think it captures the essence of the crew.
May 9, 2025 11:20 pm
LloganTamm says:
OOC:
That's really not a bad picture! I think it captures the essence of the crew.
OOC:
It does? Six dudes and I think we are 9 ? 10? Who is who? Oh, lord, I am so lost LOL
May 9, 2025 11:31 pm
OOC:
Well the OCC did say 'crappy AI image', the picture is not of the crew but a representation of the crew. Heck there is no red head female, no Leilani, the Vargr looks nothing like T-Jive and you are right, there should be 9 crew plus Decherrek the Drone. Ugh bad AI image try... LOL!
May 9, 2025 11:37 pm
OOC:
SoI,
The picture doesn't match the crew but it's about how we all cooperate. The tallest guy represents Tamm and TJ is represented by the German Shepherd. Our pixie, Leilani, is sitting by TJ. It looks like LC is taking the picture. It's a good representation not meant to be 100% accurate.
May 9, 2025 11:59 pm
OOC:
Sure, I understand you folks go a long way back, and I’m NOT criticising the AI’s artwork. All I’m trying to say is that as a new (unrepresented) crew member I’m struggling to know what to do, where to do it, whether I’m welcome, and what the hell is really going on! You folks seem to be quite cliquey and not terribly helpful or welcoming! 🤷‍♂️ just saying thats how I feel….
May 10, 2025 12:01 am
tbh, that critique doesn’t apply to you, Muns!
May 10, 2025 12:23 am
OK, we can assume then that everyone (all crew) have bought-in for 62,000cr each.
OOC:
New characters will all be assumed to have earned and saved that much in the past few months so they do not have to deplete their current assets. Old/(original) crew should deduct that amount from their funds. Please try to keep this up-to-date on your character records!
This means the ship starts with 62k x 9 = 558,000cr in "ship's accounts". That's quite a good sum for a start-up Far Trader.

Also remember to deduct 'generic' personal expenses of 10x SOC per week in port to cover miscellaneous purchases, entertainments, and etc. Large purchases or significant actions (like perhaps taking the deluxe 3-hour tour) would be in addition to that.
When in doubt, ask! I'll try to remind you. Players are responsible for keeping track of their personal funds and significant possessions.
May 10, 2025 12:32 am
sonofirony says:
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Sure, I understand you folks go a long way back, and I’m NOT criticising the AI’s artwork. All I’m trying to say is that as a new (unrepresented) crew member I’m struggling to know what to do, where to do it, whether I’m welcome, and what the hell is really going on! You folks seem to be quite cliquey and not terribly helpful or welcoming! 🤷‍♂️ just saying thats how I feel….
Good points. I think some of the new players are a bit 'boggled' and don't know where to start. I hope once this organizational stage is done we can start getting more roleplay oriented. When in doubt shoot me a private-message. Otherwise just start your character 'talking' to the other crew.

Normally in port the crew has one week to get all the business that needs doing done. Much of this is 'behind the scenes' and does not need roleplaying unless something unusual (ie, from the GMs warped imagination) occurs.

I'll be asking each player-character to declare 3 significant actions for in-port time. This is covered in the 'wiki'. Fueling, re-provisioning, dealing with the port bureuacracy are normal activities. So is taking a 24-hour 'R&R' and having a 'crew's night out' before departure. So a crew-members task list might be: Helping the Purser find High-Passage passengers. Hitting the Skid-Row flop-houses looking for Low-Berth passengers. Hanging out at the Travellers Aid Society public-lounge and hoping to get leads on high-profit trade goods... Each of those would need some role-play and a dice-roll. Coordinating with other crew members and doing things in a coordinated and somewhat well planned manner is to your collective advantage!
May 10, 2025 12:32 am
OOC:
how do we know how much time has passed?
May 10, 2025 12:34 am
OOC:
… sorry messages crossed paths…
May 10, 2025 12:56 am
playbydave says:

This means the ship starts with 62k x 9 = 558,000cr in "ship's accounts". That's quite a good sum for a start-up Far Trader.
OOC:
Actually Tamm Llogan is proxy for Deloras Biga's share. My assumption as a player is that Llogan is watching her share, but this is a non-voting shareholder. so it is Cr620,000 in the 'ship's account
LC writes down in the Merchant Charter - non voting member by Deloras's share .
May 10, 2025 1:04 am
playbydave says:
sonofirony says:
OOC:
..... as a new (unrepresented) crew member I’m struggling to know what to do, where to do it, whether I’m welcome, and what the hell is really going on! You folks seem to be quite cliquey and not terribly helpful or welcoming! 🤷‍♂️ just saying thats how I feel….
Normally in port the crew has one week to get all the business that needs doing done. (snip)
OOC:
David our esteem GM will usually make a post so our characters can conduct these in-port actions/reaction and counter actions (LOL) and help the Steward and Pursers with the speculative trade. On all of the threads, I agree we do have a few threads going on at the same time and we need a little player discipline for the new players. I have to be honest myself when I lose track of which Thread to respond to...FOMO. But I have learned with David and the PbP games is to keep in the thread for the roleplay, like this one.
May 10, 2025 1:54 am
LloganTamm says:
OOC:
That's really not a bad picture! I think it captures the essence of the crew.
Two persons short, but yes, I think it does.
Those two must have been operating the camera and lighting...

🤣🤣
May 10, 2025 2:03 am
Time-keeping is a genuine problem in play-by-post games. Don't worry too much about "time warp" for personal interchanges and what not. Our "turns" will be (generally) week-long intervals and I will try and "time stamp" new threads as they are created. If we get into a 'situation', which I'm sure we will from time to time, then the hour-by-hour and day-today become important. For now not so much.

I miss the wiki function from Tavern-Keeper. I did port most of that information over, but its not well laid out and is a 'jumble-dash' to try and find anything. But it is worth browsing through that information to get a sense of how things go along.

First real "turn" coming soon. Hopefully we'll get into a groove and things will get sorted out better. Yay!
May 10, 2025 2:03 am
sonofirony says:
OOC:
Sure, I understand you folks go a long way back, and I’m NOT criticising the AI’s artwork. All I’m trying to say is that as a new (unrepresented) crew member I’m struggling to know what to do, where to do it, whether I’m welcome, and what the hell is really going on! You folks seem to be quite cliquey and not terribly helpful or welcoming! 🤷‍♂️ just saying thats how I feel….
Sorry about that ...
I for one hate clicks, so I get it

It's true a couple of us have played together before and I hate to see players feeling like they are the 3rd wheel.

As a player, you just chime in as you see fit. Most of us just say what we want and don't take offense. If offense is felt, just let us know and we will verify our intent. We love to play in character without the player being offended. But this is a game and we want everyone to enjoy themselves.

That said, just ask like you did and we will help to the best of our abilities.

Mama will now try to fulfill her role.

Oh, and I too get confused on where I am in each post line, so your not alone. We are all trying to learn this new site, so we all understand what you are saying. The Wiki helps a lot.
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May 10, 2025 7:26 am
OOC:
I feel I should address the new players for a moment. Please forgive me if I or my character(s) ever seem cold or unfriendly. It’s not intentional nor my being "clique-ish". I have been, in recent years, dealing with increasing medical concerns. These concerns can, have and do affect my postings from time to time. When I am not feeling so well, my posts are often clipped and short. However, when I feel better, I can get pretty creative. Hopefully, the creative side will start coming out more often. So please don’t feel like I or my character doesn’t want to associate with others.

RW
May 10, 2025 2:59 pm
Packratt66 says:
OOC:
I feel I should address the new players for a moment. Please forgive me if I or my character(s) ever seem cold or unfriendly. It’s not intentional nor my being "clique-ish". I have been, in recent years, dealing with increasing medical concerns. These concerns can, have and do affect my postings from time to time. When I am not feeling so well, my posts are often clipped and short. However, when I feel better, I can get pretty creative. Hopefully, the creative side will start coming out more often. So please don’t feel like I or my character doesn’t want to associate with others.

RW

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