(OOC) Character Creation Thread

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Jun 17, 2025 1:39 pm
House ruling: We're gonna adopt PF1E rules for favored classes:
Each character begins play with a single favored class of his choosing—typically, this is the same class as the one he chooses at 1st level. Whenever a character gains a level in his favored class, he receives either + 1 hit point or + 1 skill rank. The choice of favored class cannot be changed once the character is created, and the choice of gaining a hit point or a skill rank each time a character gains a level (including his first level) cannot be changed once made for a particular level. Prestige classes can never be a favored class.
Jun 17, 2025 2:19 pm
Okay... I didnt want to get into the weeds with this question, but I also don't want to get shorted skill points. The four extra skill points at level 1 is a 3.5 convention because the math for class skills was different, and PF 1e simplified them and did away with the extra skill points. That said, Midnight still gives 4 extra skill points at first level... I was guessing that was a typo, but I will gladly take them if they are on the table, so to speak.
Jun 17, 2025 2:21 pm
Greemology says:
Okay... I didnt want to get into the weeds with this question, but I also don't want to get shorted skill points. The four extra skill points at level 1 is a 3.5 convention because the math for class skills was different, and PF 1e simplified them and did away with the extra skill points. That said, Midnight still gives 4 extra skill points at first level... I was guessing that was a typo, but I will gladly take them if they are on the table, so to speak.
You were correct in that it was a typo or 'mistake'. Skills point acquisition is the same as it is in Pathfinder. No x4 at first level.

It looks like I'm getting some extra time today, so I'm going through and fixing some of these mistakes.
Jun 17, 2025 2:54 pm
It looks like I'm getting some extra time today, so I'm going through and fixing some of these mistakes.

Sweet player hands you a dear gas-powered chain saw for some delicate editing.

Working on spending more of my precious vp's.
Jun 17, 2025 3:02 pm
WanderOne says:
It looks like I'm getting some extra time today, so I'm going through and fixing some of these mistakes.

Sweet player hands you a dear gas-powered chain saw for some delicate editing.

Working on spending more of my precious vp's.
I definitely feel like you got the good end of the bargain, like 2/3rds of my vps went to buying large armor. Lol
Jun 17, 2025 3:08 pm
Greemology says:
WanderOne says:
It looks like I'm getting some extra time today, so I'm going through and fixing some of these mistakes.

Sweet player hands you a dear gas-powered chain saw for some delicate editing.

Working on spending more of my precious vp's.
I definitely feel like you got the good end of the bargain, like 2/3rds of my vps went to buying large armor. Lol
Heeey, you chose Giantblooded, not us. ^.^
Jun 17, 2025 4:15 pm
Greemology says:


I definitely feel like you got the good end of the bargain, like 2/3rds of my vps went to buying large armor. Lol
I plan to have your back, my large friend!

Part of my spell list was outside what Midnight allows, so when I fixed that I changed my level 2 to 'barkskin' which will increase your Natural AC from 0 to +3 for 30 minutes.
Jun 17, 2025 4:27 pm
Question: For those familiar with Gamer's Plane, why bring a game public? and is that something we're interested in?
Jun 17, 2025 4:30 pm
Azote & Tork are completed.

Azote goes for goodberry to live on. She has Mage Armor (+4 AC) for protection. Setup for travel & has tent (one person, 20 minutes setup). Has a shawm for entertainment. She normally travels with her head buried in a hooded cloak. She does some disrupt undead spell when needed. Mostly she is good for faerie fire & grease but can cure light wounds. She keeps Cure Minor Wounds & Light handy. She does rapier for melee and shortbow for range. Dagger is optional. She has around 18 gp for extra spending if needed.
Last edited June 17, 2025 4:48 pm

Rolls

Goodberry - (2d4)

(31) = 4

Jun 17, 2025 4:44 pm
HeroOfSometimes says:
Question: For those familiar with Gamer's Plane, why bring a game public? and is that something we're interested in?
I am fine with it public especially as it gives us a stronger chance to recruit a 6th player.

(Or 5th if Itami decides the timing is not right? I am concerned to note Itami hasn't accepted the invite yet, which suggests uncertainty.)
Jun 17, 2025 4:47 pm
HeroOfSometimes says:

You were correct in that it was a typo or 'mistake'. Skills point acquisition is the same as it is in Pathfinder. No x4 at first level.

It looks like I'm getting some extra time today, so I'm going through and fixing some of these mistakes.
Darn, I am really going to miss that x4 Skill points at first level, which allowed you to activate all your Class Skills. I had figured it was Midnight's way of compensating for how hard it is when you're always a fugitive and can't get alchemy or magic stuff easily at all.

But I will fix my sheet soon. I'll have to take Skill Points from Favored Class after all.
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Jun 17, 2025 5:00 pm
Azote with her raven is ready for a journey far to the south, in Greybarrow -- a forgotten port half-swallowed by marches near Davindale. There, at a weather-worn dock, the party finds Wexley Thorn: a gnome of few words and many secrets. He offers passage north, under the guise of a trade route. Azote is a simple elven herbalist.

She is ready to discover what lies within Dolmen, reclaim what can be salvaged (has a sack), and return alive. :)

(Multiclassing into Rogue supplies lots and lots of class skills & points.) but not enough coin to purchase Thieves's Tools.
Last edited June 17, 2025 5:04 pm
Jun 17, 2025 5:15 pm
@WanderOne: the rules say if you still have any gold/vp left to spend at character creation, it is wasted.

So you may as well spend that last 18....and my two cents, if possible, trim 12 off elsewhere to buy the 30 gp/30 vp version of common thieves' tools? Otherwise it's -2 penalty on all Disable Device.

That said, if you need to a improvise a tool, my PC has a nail file in her inventory you could use (the whole grooming kit cost 1 gp).
Jun 17, 2025 5:27 pm
Oooh.. You have grooming kit! I did buy some soap.

Only way to obtain that coin for precious tools is to rid myself of a tent. Not happening.

Hmm Lantern (7 gp)/3 oil (3 sp) & metal mirror (10 gp) eats of a lot of the 17 gp & 2 cp extra coin. Had to ditch a day of rations to afford it all.

I can't resist. 2 more rations die and I will have the grooming kit too! LOL. So, I have an extra big mirror & large bar of soap.
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Jun 17, 2025 5:59 pm
Reached out to Itami, he says he's still in and should be ready to go by tomorrow. If he's not, we'll write him in once he is. If it becomes too long, we may have to search for TWO more players.

I plan to put the first post up by tomorrow night regardless of his status.

Yea, I didn't realize the mistake was so prolific in the handout, else I would've clarified sooner. My apologies. I wish I could've just posted the actual book and made a conversion guide. But OGL laws are such that I can't do that, hence this arduous work around. I'm always finding little stuff I need to correct. AI is great and all, but not perfect, hence I'm always finding stuff I need to fix, despite my best proofreading exercises.

Speaking of the handouts, I updated them again. Removed that error, as well as others I found. Let me know if you have questions or see more. Speaking of, I also added a new spell you might be interested in from one of the supplements. I combed through them looking for more, but only really found that one that wasn't in the Core Rulebook and wasn't hyper specific to a system we're not using. That's a little disappointing...

The whole issue with VP disappearing after character creation is that there's no real coin in Midnight. It's all done via bartering. You can't hold a value point in your palms, and gold is basically worthless, so there's no way to retain that buying power simply without actual goods to trade.
Jun 17, 2025 6:05 pm
No gold but I guess GEMS & Jewelry and sub?
Jun 17, 2025 6:25 pm
This is from the Goods and Barter section:
[ +- ] Various Sections
This is from the GM section:
[ +- ] Limitations and Alternative Treasure
So, in short, no. You have to rethink how you think about wealth. These are people struggling to survive.

Consider: I am starving and I can not procure food and you come to me offering me money for my water. I, knowing I could not buy food with that money, would turn you down because clean water is also hard to come by. Now, if you offered me a sandwich, we might have a conversion.

There are regional acceptions I.e., area's of the world where Izrador is still fighting for control. But in the occupied lands, items we typically consider valuable have little worth.
Jun 17, 2025 6:30 pm
WanderOne says:
No gold but I guess GEMS & Jewelry and sub?
I thought the real value was in iron. Gold is still traded in some places nominally, but iron holds most of the intrinsic practical value for trade in midnight. It's good barter because it's money with less steps.
Jun 17, 2025 6:35 pm
Greemology says:
I thought the real value was in iron. Gold is still traded in some places nominally, but iron holds most of the intrinsic practical value for trade in midnight. It's good barter because it's money with less steps.
I would say you're super close. Iron holds value because you can make iron into things you can use.
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