Chapter 2

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May 29, 2019 5:30 am
strumdaddy says:
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When I looked it up, the pdf I found was 488 pages, do I have that dead wrong? Oops, I see now that it's a collection with Alcibiades AND a bunch of other writings... the whole book is 500+ pages, but Alcibiades I and II is only 182 pages.

My bad, sorry about that. It sounds like an honest mistake! Who knows what kind of questions she'll ask anyway!

How is taking a test going to work anyway? How many stones do we need to spend to pass?
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Rofl! I was wondering about that number too and why Spencer was saying 500 pages.

Alcibiades 1 & 2 are dialogues. It's pretty easy to read through them quickly. The test is going to be is that I'm going to ask you questions on it and you can either show off how studious your characters are and look up answers on diff websites like some sort of little scummy open book test OR. ORRRR. You can try to dumb down / play it up to whatever you think your character's understanding of the text might be. First Alcibiades in particular is extremely relevant to people who want to partake in vigilante work, as it primarily deals with what Justice is, what Knowledge is, and who is qualified to make decisions using either abstract idea.

If you want, we can RP a class over it with Wesley, you guys can do your own study for it, etc. However, I'm hoping that we can have a cool little philosophical moment during the test where we can see how everyone interprets the text for themselves. Y'know. Before the children are placed in a situation where they may or may not be the dispensers of Justice.
May 29, 2019 11:12 am
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As much as I don't miss doing homework, I really like the idea of reflecting on the text as our characters - that sounds like a great (and well-used in popular media) way to get more insight into who they are as people.

I think we probably don't need to overdo it, though - either a class discussion with Wesley or RPing through the exam, and skimming through whichever one we don't do, would probably be enough. I prefer the idea of playing out the discussion, and then perhaps using the exam to summarise each character's individual perspective on Justice.
May 29, 2019 1:51 pm
kadeton says:
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As much as I don't miss doing homework, I really like the idea of reflecting on the text as our characters - that sounds like a great (and well-used in popular media) way to get more insight into who they are as people.

I agree!

I think we probably don't need to overdo it, though - either a class discussion with Wesley or RPing through the exam, and skimming through whichever one we don't do, would probably be enough. I prefer the idea of playing out the discussion, and then perhaps using the exam to summarise each character's individual perspective on Justice.
May 29, 2019 1:52 pm
Squadfather44 says:
kadeton says:
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As much as I don't miss doing homework, I really like the idea of reflecting on the text as our characters - that sounds like a great (and well-used in popular media) way to get more insight into who they are as people.



I think we probably don't need to overdo it, though - either a class discussion with Wesley or RPing through the exam, and skimming through whichever one we don't do, would probably be enough. I prefer the idea of playing out the discussion, and then perhaps using the exam to summarise each character's individual perspective on Justice.
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I agree!
May 30, 2019 5:12 pm
Arthur will read the books and study.
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Snapper won't. He will look up a synopsis and develop Arthur's argument for them. lol
May 30, 2019 5:30 pm
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I'm committed to using searchable PDFs to enhance my limited teen understanding of Plato. Unless I read a bit and it's actually interesting... :)
May 30, 2019 11:46 pm
Logan will do the same.
Jun 2, 2019 8:27 pm
Fiona begins to read her copy of Alcibiades 1, head down flipping back to cross-reference, and studiously taking notes in a spiral bound notebook.
Jun 3, 2019 3:20 am
Spencer looks over Fee's shoulder and calculates what she's reading by her eye position, and then starts to speak the words of the dialogue in an impression of Dr. Pryce as Plato and Ms. Clairemont as Alcibiades (those are his only two good impressions). He changes words sometimes or repeats them in different translations for better clarity. He sometimes crinkles his nose at the sound of his mother's voice saying some of the phrases. His voice goes hoarse quite quickly, and he leaves to get a bottle of water, but when he gets back, he has a second bottle of water, some beef jerky, chips and an armful of other snacks he drops on the table to share. In between bites, he carries on the impressions with his mouth full, picking up exactly where you've read to while he was gone.
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Last edited June 3, 2019 5:24 am
Jun 3, 2019 8:38 am
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Wait. *flips back over pages*

Did you guys decide to completely skip the conversation you were having or did you all just bring your books to the conversation? I think our OOC convo might have interrupted what was already happening with the scene, unless we want to retcon a little bit of that and make it that Spencer initiated this meeting as a way of everyone going over the dialogue together. Otherwise, I think Arthur made the last points and then no one really responded to him (Liberty was too busy making eye-flirts with Logan).

I can give some prompts to talk about it if you like, or I can skip straight to the quiz from Clairemont and we can make that focus-- that way you're not basically repeating and we can just get straight to the meat of what each person thinks the text could mean. I can always just give cliff notes!
Jun 3, 2019 12:56 pm
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Arthur was mainly just spitballing ideas. He already knows what he's going to do, regardless of the outcome of the test or the group's decision.

Conviction takes many forms. lol
Jun 3, 2019 1:02 pm
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Oh, aye. I guess I got sidetracked by all the ooc conversation. Skipping to the quiz sounds like a good idea. That way we don't repeat ourselves. A cliff notes version would be awesome!
Jun 3, 2019 6:38 pm
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Spencer's demo was meant to infer they could do what they want anyway. He would like to proceed with permission, though, if possible, just as a safety net. It sounds like Ms. Clairemont's might give us some freedom to operate, and we can start feeling out what it's like to work as a team.

I was planning to use our telepath to link us up so that Ellis could pass questions to me, I could answer them, and he would relay the answers back, get the oral exam out of the way (in what would seem record time!), and then we'd have most of the day without classes to get started.
Jun 4, 2019 1:45 am
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I suspect, given they know Ellis' capabilities, they'll be putting some sort of measures in place to prevent such an obvious way to cheat the test. Or, if that method were left possible, whether or not we used it would be the 'real' test of our moral character, etc. I think we might each be on our own for this one.
Jun 5, 2019 6:09 pm
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I think the exposure of those capabilities would probably be worth it. Spencer's been 'probing the fence' since he got here, mostly emotionally, but we need to start doing it physically now, too. It's part of why we're in this position, I hope. Moral character aside, though, it seems we're seeking permission when heroism is taking initiative. :P
Yays, let quiz!
Jun 12, 2019 11:26 am
After awhile of studying, Arthur gets fidgety and heads to the danger room.
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I am not sure if there's even a thing like this on the Danger Room simulator, but if so, Arthur is going to do this.
He starts working on the computer.. Hmm... combat...wonder if they have anything more subtle....Ah, I think I figured it out.

He enters: "Crowded city sidewalk". The simulation opens to a section of New York City frequented by many people. As Arthur makes his way down the street, he tests his pickpocketing skills, mainly to see if he still has them. Calmly bumping and shuffling among the crowd, he is able to snag about 6 wallets and a watch. Not bad, Arthur.. Not bad at all. Confident he can replicate this in town, he returns to the computer and enters: "Various locks. doors, jewelry cases, safes." As the simulation turns into a room with various doors and safes, he will make his way through them all, using his lockpick set he got at Home Depot.

After a couple of hours of picking locks and picking pockets, he'll return back to his room, hide the lockpick set and return to his reading.
Jun 18, 2019 1:59 am
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did the real world kill the mutants??

Just curious about the quiz.
Jun 19, 2019 12:24 am
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I’m still checking in and hoping for a continuation.
Jun 19, 2019 1:06 am
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We could carry on without him/her. I'd like to circle back to our talk about the investigation we're about to lead.
Jun 20, 2019 10:35 am
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sounds good to me.
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