Friar_Tuk Character Discussion

This thread is for discussing Friar_Tuk's character other players should only post to this in regards to Friar_Tuk's character and story collaboration is included within that.

When outlining your character please post the following:

Step 1: Background (okay basically your story)

Step 2: Choose (or outline) the following :
.....Starting Duty : 5 (from Age of Rebellion)
.....Starting Obligation : 25 (from Edge of the Empire)
.....Starting Morality : 50 (from Force and Destiny)
..........Now the above 3 things have aspects that need to be rolled (and/or chosen but prefer if you rolled at least until you got something that fit the concept unless you really feel strongly about one of them) for each and these need to outlined in your Step 2 -- a Note here for Obligation you can assign the 25 to one Obligation or split it among more than one depending on what you feel your character should have

Also in this step if you check I have altered the choices as follows:
...Choose 4 of the following (cannot choose the same one twice)
--OR--
...Choose 2 of the following (cannot choose the same one twice)

So please explicitly list what you chose for this

Step 3: Select Species -- here just out line the crunch bits that are associated with your the Species you chose along with the Species :)

Step 4: Choosing a Career -- please outline what you did in this step

Step 5: Choosing Specializations -- please outline what you did in this step

Step 6: Invest Character Generation XP -- please outline what you did in this step

Step 7: Determine Derived Attributes (if you know how)

Step 8: Determine Motivations

Step 9: Character Generation Gear & Appearance

Step 10: Post-Character Creation XP Expenditures

Step 11: Post-Character Creation Gear

-------------- The ship thing I will be taking care of based on the number of active players

As denoted and dovetailing into what you wanted to play -- if you would not mind I would like you to take over the character of Vayne --- you design the character however you like but you are ex-sith whatever that looks like for you

Here is the pre-determined history that goes along with Vayne

Meanwhile Vayne did not become part of the slave labor force but was instead recognized to be a Force Sensitive and was shunted off to be "trained" (aka brain-washed) in the arts and ways of the Sith. As he grew older he began to operate as an enforcer for the Sith amongst other human species. However, having not yet earned his lightsaber he did this armed with a vibrosword effectively slew a countless number of unknown targets until he finally earned his Dark Red Saber and became an even more effective agent for the Sith.

However, this would all change when he and a colleague (fellow dark jedi) named Dosh were sent to Naboo to hunt down and take care of some designated targets. Targets that turned out to be children, and not those old enough to be dangerous, but kids so young that it would be impossible for them to defend themselves nor to effectively even flee or survive on their own. This confused Vayne as it made no sense to him for them to be slaughtering innocent children. Dosh on the other-hand had no qualms and moved to begin the slaughter with a slightly perverse smile on his lips. This just proved too much for Vayne and instead of attacking the children he attacked the true enemy present his colleague, Dosh.

The fight that ensued was vicious but the anger and outrage that fueled Vayne's attacks proved to be superior to that of his colleagues and he eventually got the better of Dosh cut off one of his arms but held back killing him and instead screamed from the internal emotional pain of what felt like betrayal by his teachers. This torment broke through the brain washing and memories of his previous life return in a flood. However, Dosh had not been idle and had, with his remaining hand, pulled his blaster but before he could shoot either Vayne or the kids, in a mental flash of force filled clarity Vayne removed Dosh's head. Looking down at the head of his colleague with that seemingly perverse smile still on his lips, Vayne vowed he would be a Sith no more and he would do all that he could to remove every Sith's smirking face from their shoulders but he would do it as a Jedi, whatever that meant. His first act was to get the children he had been sent to kill, to safety. This got him branded a hero even though he did not feel like one it allowed him to join with the rebellion and work within its network.

It was as a rebel that he was reunited with his brother Kleto, but it was Kleto that recognized the facial markings of a family member and established that Vayne was his missing older brother. The stories his brother shared with him about the family helped to soothe some of the internal pain but he still struggles with using the Force having only been taught how ot use it from a Sith perspective which meant all those dark emotions just kept bubbling up within him which he had an intuitive feeling is ont the of a true Jedi.

The rest of the groups history is in the Prologue Episode you should read it too and then catch-up on the main thread

So, I can work with this, but may I request a ret-con? Rather than Vayne working for "the Sith", I think this backstory meshes perfectly with him being a former Inquisitor.

Palpatine kidnapped force sensitive children during the Clone Wars era. Its never overtly said, but I always assumed those kids were the seeds of the Inquisitor program, with turned former Jedi being the instructors and senior leaders. In Rebels, we see that one of the jobs of Inquisitors is to track down more force sensitive children. So all of the back story above jives really well with all that. Dosh was another Inquisitor who enjoyed his work a little too much.

If that works for you, I can get on board with this character. To be honest, I find the notion of "The Sith" as some monolithic entity boring and not supported by canon (it strikes me as an EU/Legends thing).

Regardless of your approval on this ret-con, I can get the mechanical bits all worked out later tonight.

yes but an Inquistor is just another member of the Sith thus it makes little difference at least from my perspective -- yeah your primary role might have been inquisitor but you got sent on a mission to take out some enemies which turned out to be children -- and as you pointed out quite in line with what they might be called upon to do

And as you can see an Inquisitor is just another form of dark-jedi -- okay so your not an actual Sith but neither was the original Vayne actually -- just a matter of perspective I believe

The Inquisitorius, also known as the Inquisitorius Program, the Order of Inquisitors, and the Imperial Inquisition, was an organization of mysterious, Force-sensitive dark side agents who served the Sith-ruled Galactic Empire. Members of the Inquisitorius were called Imperial Inquisitors, or simply Inquisitors, and were also nicknamed Red Blades. They were tasked with hunting down the remaining Jedi who had survived Order 66 at the end of the Clone Wars as part of the Great Jedi Purge, retrieving any children identified as Force-sensitive, as well as other political dissidents. The Inquisitors were governed by the Sith Lord Darth Vader, who was the apprentice to the Galactic Emperor, Sheev Palpatine, and led by an individual known only by his title, the Grand Inquisitor.

So as you can see in a nut-shell Vayne was an Inquisitor we just did not apply that title to him in the prologue

As for The Sith -- they are actually supported by cannon but there are only ever 2 Master and Apprentice -- the rest are mere pawns in the grand scheme of things ;) --- of course what I do not fully understand is -- how they went from an actual order of The Sith way back in their beginning down to just -- 2 that are supported by various dark-jedi that they have bent to their will -- thus to me The Sith incorporate the 2 which make up the leadership along with everyone that serves the 2 -- so all Inquisitors are part of The Sith and are trained accordingly and are all subservient to the 2

I hope that clarifies how I view "The Sith" organization

Ok, works for me!

How many years has Vayne been working with the rebellion? In other words: how long since his desertion of the Empire and reunion with his estranged brother?

I intend to build out this character with a Force and Destiny career and specialization (Sentinel: Shadow). Do I need to assign a value and narrative hook for Obligation, Duty and Morality, or just Morality?

All three are required -- and while they effect the group -- the are aimed more personally to each individual character -- its outlined under character creation parameters -- you should look at that rather closely as it changes a few things in character creation

Well Vayne was taken as a child and is the older brother of the two I am not sure if your brother has stated how old they are but he's grown up so they have been been operating for a while

How long ago well at least 2 years ago but not much more than 4 years basically not to much before the destruction of the first death star -- for if you go back too much further than that I doubt your character would have survived -- it had to occur during a more tumultuous time where resources were strongly needed elsewhere

Will it mess up the narrative if I say that his background as a former Imperial Inquisitor is a secret? He probably would have told his brother. I'd like to play him as a character that is very reluctant to use the Force. He's dismantled his lightsaber and thrown the red crystal away, so before he can use it again, he'll need to get a new kyber crystal.

Will that mess up any narrative threads for the group? @valdattaMadun, any input as Vayne's brother?

Meanwhile Vayne did not become part of the slave labor force but was instead recognized to be a Force Sensitive and was shunted off to be "trained" (aka brain-washed) in the arts and ways of the Sith. As he grew older he began to operate as an enforcer for the Sith amongst other human species. However, having not yet earned his lightsaber he did this armed with a vibrosword effectively slew a countless number of unknown targets until he finally earned his Dark Red Saber and became an even more effective agent for the Sith.
--- okay being or not being an Inquisitor does not affect the above ---

However, this would all change when he and a colleague (fellow dark jedi) named Dosh were sent to Naboo to hunt down and take care of some designated targets. Targets that turned out to be children, and not those old enough to be dangerous, but kids so young that it would be impossible for them to defend themselves nor to effectively even flee or survive on their own. This confused Vayne as it made no sense to him for them to be slaughtering innocent children. Dosh on the other-hand had no qualms and moved to begin the slaughter with a slightly perverse smile on his lips. This just proved too much for Vayne and instead of attacking the children he attacked the true enemy present his colleague, Dosh.
--- okay being or not being an Inquisitor does not affect the above ---

The fight that ensued was vicious but the anger and outrage that fueled Vayne's attacks proved to be superior to that of his colleagues and he eventually got the better of Dosh cut off one of his arms but held back killing him and instead screamed from the internal emotional pain of what felt like betrayal by his teachers. This torment broke through the brain washing and memories of his previous life return in a flood. However, Dosh had not been idle and had, with his remaining hand, pulled his blaster but before he could shoot either Vayne or the kids, in a mental flash of force filled clarity Vayne removed Dosh's head. Looking down at the head of his colleague with that seemingly perverse smile still on his lips, Vayne vowed he would be a Sith no more and he would do all that he could to remove every Sith's smirking face from their shoulders but he would do it as a Jedi, whatever that meant. His first act was to get the children he had been sent to kill, to safety. This got him branded a hero even though he did not feel like one it allowed him to join with the rebellion and work within its network.
--- okay being or not being an Inquisitor does not affect the above ---

It was as a rebel that he was reunited with his brother Kleto, but it was Kleto that recognized the facial markings of a family member and established that Vayne was his missing older brother. The stories his brother shared with him about the family helped to soothe some of the internal pain but he still struggles with using the Force having only been taught how to use it from a Sith perspective which meant all those dark emotions just kept bubbling up within him which he had an intuitive feeling is ont the of a true Jedi.
--- okay being or not being an Inquisitor does not affect the above ---

In short it appears being or not being an Inquisitor makes little difference to the background as detailed -- Inquisitors belong to the Sith -- which makes you a member of the Sith (even if that its technically a lie -- you are part of an organization that view them selves as members of the Sith but for the 2 -- you are mere servants and highly expendable at that)

In a nut-shell you were an agent of the Sith -- and force-sensitive agents of the Sith that eventually get red light sabers are called Inquisitors -- so really no difference as I stated before -- it is just not outlined as such in those terms

Input as the brother:

I think it might actually be a cool thing if he DOESN'T tell his brother. Only real narrative interaction between the two so far has been me "lamenting" how it is still hard to read his brother. Though Kleto as the one person who knows but "still doesn't get it" could work as well.

Edit: I sort of felt like Kleto could be his "guiding light" if you will, sort of like a conscious when Vayne steps too far. Willing to step in front of his brother and be a voice of reason if you will.

All good, I wasn't trying to belabor that semantic point (Inquisitor vs Sith).

I was asking if there were any barriers to the other PCs not know this aspect of Vayne's background. Given @valdattaMadun's response, I'm going to say that the group doesn't even know Vayne is Force Sensitive. He just seems really lucky and has proven himself a useful infiltrator. He's never used his lightsaber and has odd taste in jewelry (he wears the parts of his lightsaber about his person disguised as weird jewelry and accessories).

Ok, I am going to build out the character reply here with the full breakdown.

Here is some cannon that you might be interested in that kind of mirrors what I was saying
So it appears that some where after 2 BBY but before the First Death Star was destroyed all of the still known existing Inquisitors were no more -- I would assume Darth Vader killed them at the Emperor's order. Of course this would not have come to light as of yet seeing as how there were all that many of them by the year 2 BBY anyway

I plan on playing him as a very reluctant and reticent person. Because of the terrible things he's done, he knows his own potential for violence and avoids it as much as possible.

There is still potential for an outburst, but I don't think Kleto knows that yet. Vayne's outward presentation is someone extremely retiring. He avoids social situations in general and has made few to no friends in his new life. He's only allowed Kleto in at all because Kleto is his brother.

Step 1: Background (okay basically your story)

Step 2: Choose (or outline) the following :
.....Starting Duty : 5 (from Age of Rebellion) Sabotage
.....Starting Obligation : 25 (from Edge of the Empire) Responsibility: To undo the harms done by the Empire
.....Starting Morality : 50 (from Force and Destiny) Mercy/Weakness
..........Now the above 3 things have aspects that need to be rolled (and/or chosen but prefer if you rolled at least until you got something that fit the concept unless you really feel strongly about one of them) for each and these need to outlined in your Step 2 -- a Note here for Obligation you can assign the 25 to one Obligation or split it among more than one depending on what you feel your character should have

Also in this step if you check I have altered the choices as follows:
...Choose 4 of the following (cannot choose the same one twice)
--OR--
...Choose 2 of the following (cannot choose the same one twice)
+10 XP
+2500 credits

So please explicitly list what you chose for this

Step 3: Select Species -- here just out line the crunch bits that are associated with your the Species you chose along with the Species :)

Zabrak

Step 4: Choosing a Career -- please outline what you did in this step

Chose Sentinel from the Force and Destiny book (Career skills: Computers, Deception, Knowledge (Core Worlds), Perception, Skulduggery, Stealth. I took a rank in Computers, Deception and Stealth)

Step 5: Choosing Specializations -- please outline what you did in this step

I chose the Shadow specialization from the Sentinel career in the F&D book (additional career skills: Knowledge (underworld), Skulduggery, Stealth, Streetwise. I took a free rank in Skulduggery and Streetwise)

Step 6: Invest Character Generation XP -- please outline what you did in this step

Zabrak starting XP = 100+10=110
Increased Presence from 1 to 2 = 20 XP
Increased Cunning from 2 to 3 = 30 XP
Increased Agility from 2 to 3 = 30 XP
Increased Brawn from 2 to 3 = 30 XP

Step 7: Determine Derived Attributes (if you know how)

Strain = 13
Wounds = 13
Soak (w/o armor) = 2

Step 8: Determine Motivations

Cause: To help the helpless

Step 9: Character Generation Gear & Appearance

Starting credits: 500+2500=3000
Gear: Force Pike (500), Light Blaster Pistol (300), Second Skin Armor (2000), Disguise Kit (100), Stim Packs (3x25=75), Comlink (25)

Step 10: Post-Character Creation XP Expenditures

150XP
Slight of Mind Talent = 5 XP
Well Rounded Talent = 10 XP (Melee and Discipline are now Career Skills)
Indistinguishable = 5 XP
Force Power: Misdirect, Basic Power = 15 XP
Misdirect Upgrade Range = 5 XP
Misdirect Upgrade Magnitude = 10 XP
First Rank of Melee Skill = 5 XP
Second Rank of Melee Skill = 10 XP
First Rank of Ranged (light) = 10 XP
Second Rank of Deception = 10 XP
First Rank of Discipline = 5 XP
Second Rank of Discipline = 10 XP
Second Rank of Stealth = 10 XP
Second Rank of Computers = 10 XP
Codebreaker Talent = 5 xP
Grit Talent = 5 XP
Slight of Mind Talent = 15 XP

Step 11: Post-Character Creation Gear

Lightsaber (disassembled; needs a new crystal, or to purify old crystal)

-------------- The ship thing I will be taking care of based on the number of active players

Background has been outlined already.

Appearance: Vayne is tight and wiry. He stands at just over 5 feet tall and weighs ~140 lbs. He does not look strong or capable at a glance. He looks quiet and contemplative. An easily forgettable Zabrak who's mannerisms help with that impression. He wears shabby, nondescript clothes over his Second Skin Armor. He keeps his horns trimmed and well filed so they remain unobtrusive.

Okay if you can submit that as a character sheet I will trust nothing was broken ;) or fudged -- and I will go through it later so once I can approve your character sheet -- then you can post as your character complete with whatever pic you chose or I can grab the pic that was used previously -- makes no difference to me on that one ;)