"Ha!" Swaneke barks "You see Arnd, it isn't just me. Emil's gonna make something happen for us. You see. We keep things under control, and we'll be rewarded. I believe it."
"Maybe," says Arnd, "but so many people had to die to make that happen. Was that really worth it? The dukes and duchesses are almost certainly all dead, in prison, or in stocks, but I just don't know if I believe in it now that it's happened. It's one thing to complain about a status quo you don't like but when it erupts into bloodshed,..." he trails off and shakes his head. "...I don't know. I believed in what our rulers could accomplish, did accomplish. Maybe Emil will do great things, but I don't know if I think he's an improvement."
The two go back and forth for awhile while the after winds down, and there farmer, Moer, comes to join.
"I can hear you two bickering from across the farm," he says looking amused. "I'd swear you were brothers the way you argue. As for me, I have too much work to get involved in politics. I'll get behind whoever can keep the wolves away from my livestock, and keep thieves out of my grain. Beyond that, I'm too busy to be of much concern."
He looks the group over and reflects a moment.
"I don't know if you're here to help me, or not, but I've had no trouble from anyone since this all kicked off. The militias leave me alone, and so do Emil's troops. I'd like to keep it that way. I know the old order called themselves "The Architects", but that was just an old name that was passed on, I don't know what Emil is building, but I hope it's better than the present. Is there something I can help you all with?"