OOC

Jan 3, 2024 3:58 pm
Let's do one OOC for everyone. And here are some answers

You had long rest before puzzle encounter. You did not have even a short rest after puzzle encounter and Bajaz would insist you don't have one because the evil guy must be aware of your presence and could simply run away

I don't mind those of you who can change spell list during LR to do that now.
Jan 3, 2024 5:27 pm
I believe I've provided everyone with access to both teams forums - if you want to see how the other group get to the location and what they experienced

The common knowledge of the group should be:
1. You saw the demon - medium sized bat like creature. The Demon illusion you currently see is larger and with more "features". But there are certain similarities

2. Demon and human (Curran) work as a pair: warlock is helping demon with his magic

3. Demon is "somehow bound to our plane and gaining strength with each soul it devour". It means demon is not summoned using "Summon Greater Demon" spell or alike and requires no summoner to keep concentration to keep in in this plane.
Jan 4, 2024 6:34 pm
Just realized I forgot to remove UNDER CONSTRUCTION from my first post in BBEG thread, Just removed it. Sorry it was finished long before
Jan 5, 2024 6:20 pm
You see him dead, need revivify or something to get him up
It also appears I misunderstood some player actions so going forward I would like to demand every player announce the coordinates his PC or summon ends at.

Working on an updated map with coordinates. will come soon. To make it easier for me west room will not be in the map as it is blocked by wall of fire anyway.
Jan 5, 2024 10:26 pm
Since we combined parties what all do we have for classes?
Jan 5, 2024 11:52 pm
KIA Sorcerer. I have a diamond for revivify. Where's the healer?
Jan 5, 2024 11:59 pm
Waves her hand!


I am just not sure if I am the only healer or not. I will change my play style depending on.
Jan 6, 2024 12:02 am
Sigh, spirit wavers idly as the remaining life force leaks from the body at his feet
Jan 6, 2024 12:05 am
Don't worry, I came prepared for death.

6 Gems for Revivify
5 Pouches of Diamond Dust for Greater Restoration
2 Vials of Oil for Reincarnate
Jan 6, 2024 12:23 am
Wonder if he plays marbles with those gems. Winner take all of course...
Jan 6, 2024 4:27 am
I have signed my "Do not reincarnate" form and filled it with my patron
Jan 6, 2024 4:57 am
Just a rogue here. I do have enough diamonds/dust for 3 Revify, 1 Raise Dead, and 5 Greater Restoration spells.
Jan 6, 2024 5:32 am
By looks the party can bring back your character @Psybermagi back into play. I wouldn't count on Congo for that.
Last edited January 6, 2024 5:34 am
Jan 6, 2024 10:23 am
I believe Atlas is the only PC in the party able to revivify. But the only limit is once per round. So as long as you keep Atlas alive PC death is not much worth than going to 0 HP for a 6 player LVL 15 party.
Jan 6, 2024 11:49 am
Bhrok is a Ranger/Barbarian melee character. :)
He has diamonds for one time Revivify on him.
Jan 7, 2024 8:01 am
I intended to say you can't see obvious way how to open any of the the doors in this room description in the first post
Quote:

You see no handles or key-locks on the doors.

You guess that in this place - designed by a wizard - all doors opens and close by means of magic.
If no PCs can cast Knock spell I wouldn't mind a PC do improvised action to try to understand how to open such a door. I would ask you to roll either perception or investigation DC 15.
Alternatively you may try to force brake doors. I've just found on internet suggested stats of 2 inch thick iron door:
AC 19 HP 100 damage threshold 30.
Jan 16, 2024 7:34 pm
can't believe it!!! Just rolled to nat 20 on that damage dealing machine monster. Can't be true. Well... this was supposed to be deadly, but not such deadly
Jan 16, 2024 7:37 pm
Dice do seem to be favoring the GM.
Jan 17, 2024 12:01 pm
Sky do have Uncanny Dodge. It allows to spend reaction to reduce reduce 67 to 33. I want to believe the damage sky took in puzzle was less than 33+11 and it means Sky is still conscious.
Jan 17, 2024 2:34 pm
Thanks, I forgot about that ability.
Uh, point of clarification? Uncanny Dodge states "when an attacker that you can see hits you with an attack, you can use your reaction to halve the attack's damage against you."
I read this as a single attack and I make the choice of which attack I affect with this ability if multiple attacks hit. Am I reading this correctly?
GreyWord says:
I want to believe the damage sky took in puzzle was less than 33+11 and it means Sky is still conscious.
the 33+11 was the bite damage. The puzzle only took a few hp away from him.
Last edited January 17, 2024 2:45 pm
Jan 17, 2024 2:41 pm
Exactly :-)
Jan 17, 2024 3:04 pm
33+11 was math formula , sorry for too too technical, I'm IT engineer you know

Details explained. I don't know how much HP SKy had before this combat but let's assume 115 out of 133max
1. Your maximum of 123 HP is reduced (by 11) to maximum 122
->You still have 117 out of 122 max

2. You then take 44 damage
-> You dice not to use your reaction yet
-> 73 out of 122

3. You then take 67
-> Now you dice to use your reaction to halve that to only take 33 damage
-> 40 out of 122
Jan 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Ah. Question. Does the attacking enemy ever become visible?. Uncanny dodge requires you to be able to see the attacker. I know that Congo would very much like to see the target too.
Jan 17, 2024 3:28 pm
Yeah he said the thing was visible.
Jan 17, 2024 3:30 pm
Woot. Target practice. :) It must have normal invisibility. Congo has greater and would not be visible from attacking.
Last edited January 17, 2024 3:31 pm
Jan 17, 2024 3:57 pm
Demon lost visibility before attacking. Why - you don't know. Your best guess should be someone stopped concentrating on invisibility spell
Jan 18, 2024 11:00 pm
Mention me when I can take my turn, please.
Jan 20, 2024 9:09 pm
GreyWord says:
[ooc]
I agree with game designer
Quote:
Careful Spell is used the turn you cast a spell and is intended to affect saving throws made that turn
and I will rule that Sickening Radiance which cause all creatures to do saves on their turn and repeat them every turn when... not be affected by Careful Spell performed once on your turn.
I actually took Careful spell and Sickening Radiance to take advantage of this combo. So Careful spell would not allow them to be immune even the first round?
[ +- ] Careful Spell (S:MM)
IMO the rules as written do not state this. I understand the rules as indedded do not always match RAW. They usually write errata to clarify things like this. As it is written this is not touched on at all as it never says turn or round or anything about a time frame. (I will revise my in game post to move the spell focus.)

I understand why but it frustrates me and I just wanted to vent.
Last edited January 20, 2024 9:18 pm
Jan 21, 2024 8:42 am
I've double checked forums and seems like there are a split on opinions. Those who agree with game designer point out RAW "Careful Spell" description start with When you cast which limits ability timing, there seems to be enough DMs who would rule different.

So looks like you are just unlucky to have a DM who trust game designer opinion on his own game.
Jan 21, 2024 3:48 pm
I as a player of course want the option. As a DM I get that allowing ST to be skipped without cost is bad. So I was thinking is split the difference and allowed 1 round at the time of casting to auto succeed ST and hoping it was persistent.
The problem with english it that "When you cast . . . " can also mean that you must declare and pay the affect when you cast.

Proper wording for the interpretation should be something more like
Quote:
You can protect some of creatures from a spells full force by spending 1 sorcery point and choosing a number of creatures, up to your Charisma modifier (minimum of one creature), that will automatically succeeds on their saving throw against the spell when you cast the spell.
Jan 21, 2024 4:43 pm
@Psybermagi
I hope we could agree that
1. RAW are ambiguous
2. When rules are ambiguous it's DM's decision. And my decision is to listen game designer. It will always be.

I do agree that it may have been a good idea to update 5e rules affecting any saves until the start of your next turn rather than "on your turn". Nevertheless my biggest problem is to agree to apply it in current game situation, because Pin do not see the characters and don't even have any idea if they are even in the area of the spell when he cast it. To prevent spell from affecting named PCs the Spell should be intelligent and selective. And I just don't see 5e magic to posses it's own intelligence.
Jan 21, 2024 5:05 pm
Totally agree it is your call. I admit to disappointment/frustration due to failed plans, sigh, but it is not a big deal.
And yes targeting thing without full knowledge is metagaming. The main objective was to fill the room I could see and hopefully the tunnel as I felt it was safe to assume no party members were in it. The metamagic was to help cover that but as it is not applicable then the assumption is Pin made a good guess and got lucky not to affect the party.
Last edited January 21, 2024 5:05 pm
Jan 23, 2024 2:22 pm
@Psybermagi
I believe we had an agreement that my ruling is - Careful Spell does not work with Careful Spell as per game's designer tweet.
Are there other source of protection for your familiar to ignore spell effect? Could you please point me out to it?
Quote:
The quast, protected by Pins sorcery ignores the magic field
Jan 23, 2024 2:48 pm
Yes we did. I added the Con fail.
Moving on
Last edited January 23, 2024 2:51 pm
Jan 24, 2024 8:12 pm
Wow. Bhrok the Glorious is Glorious or is 'Goreious'
Jan 24, 2024 9:05 pm
I am sorry. Puns are not allowed.
You are now cursed with Disadvantage on your next attack.

:p
Jan 24, 2024 9:06 pm
I am sorry. Puns are not allowed.
You are now cursed with Disadvantage on your next attack.

:p
Jan 25, 2024 8:21 am
I was pointed out Barbarian rage provide resistance against magical slashing, so Bhrok half that damage from crit AoO
Jan 25, 2024 8:42 am
GeneCortess says:
Wow. Bhrok the Glorious is Glorious or is 'Goreious'
😂

Maybe behind his back, that is his name. 🤣
Feb 6, 2024 4:30 pm
GreyWord says:

No advantage unless I'm missing something: I'm probably missing something but 1) If you can see ghouls, so can, so the rule about unseen attackers does not apply 2) You never took Hide action which is the other source of advantage I am aware of
Yeah I want sure about that. One thing I have seen go both ways was the fact that I was never in their line if sight to begin with so I wad unseen and may or may not be considered hidden by that simple fact. Some DM still require the hide action, invisibility, or some other mechanic. Other allow 1 round advantage but most just a single attack with it. I haven't seen this clarified in rules, just opinions that site the unseen attacker and attack reveal position rules, so am not sure how it is supposed to go. RAW seems to go with 1st attack only.
To be clear, I am not arguing, just starting why I did it and posted a note about it. If anyone can point me to the rules on full cover and unseen but not using the hide action that would be great
Feb 6, 2024 9:03 pm
Hmm I was always sure about that:
RAW
Quote:
When a creature can’t see you, you have advantage on attack rolls against it.
Either can you see ghoul and ghoul can see you or neither can, unless you are magically invisible.

The only exception to that rule I am aware of is Hide action as it explicitly say "If you succeed, you gain certain benefits" - the same benefits despite fact that enemy can see. And that is broke first time your attack.

I still believe routine is as simple as that: 1. Get cover 2. Roll hide as action (or BA if you can) 3. Move out of cover and attack with advantage.
Feb 9, 2024 10:53 pm
@GuardianRory just a friendly notice. It is your turn
Feb 11, 2024 8:10 pm
Oh dang! I'm sorry I missed this for so many days. I'll post right now.
Feb 20, 2024 2:02 am
I do not know if this campaign is finished or if more will happen.

I just wanted to say I haven't gotten to enjoy a lot of high-level play before.
Being the main healer at the end was not that bad. I wish I could have been more useful, but I kept everyone alive.
I enjoyed it no matter what.

Thank you for running this GreyWord!
Last edited February 20, 2024 2:03 am
Feb 20, 2024 4:05 am
Yep, its been educational having a high level sorcerer. Thanks for the game! :)
Feb 20, 2024 4:58 am
We are done indeed. You can explore place to learn how doors closes but thats about it.

Thanks everyone for playing. You are all great players to DM for.
Feb 20, 2024 7:20 am
I can also share some of the Lich lore and what was it's and Curran's plans if your PCs put an effort to learn something.
Feb 22, 2024 6:15 pm
I'll retire this game by the end of the week.
Once again big thanks to those who stayed with me and finished this game despite it grow bigger and longer than I anticipated. This is the first PBP game I've finished and it feels good to retire it for that reason.

P.S. Anyone have idea for another game I may want to DM, feel free to message me
Feb 22, 2024 6:32 pm
Thanks for letting me play-in!

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