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Jan 17, 2024 2:41 pm
Exactly :-)
Jan 17, 2024 3:04 pm
33+11 was math formula , sorry for too too technical, I'm IT engineer you know

Details explained. I don't know how much HP SKy had before this combat but let's assume 115 out of 133max
1. Your maximum of 123 HP is reduced (by 11) to maximum 122
->You still have 117 out of 122 max

2. You then take 44 damage
-> You dice not to use your reaction yet
-> 73 out of 122

3. You then take 67
-> Now you dice to use your reaction to halve that to only take 33 damage
-> 40 out of 122
Jan 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Ah. Question. Does the attacking enemy ever become visible?. Uncanny dodge requires you to be able to see the attacker. I know that Congo would very much like to see the target too.
Jan 17, 2024 3:28 pm
Yeah he said the thing was visible.
Jan 17, 2024 3:30 pm
Woot. Target practice. :) It must have normal invisibility. Congo has greater and would not be visible from attacking.
Last edited January 17, 2024 3:31 pm
Jan 17, 2024 3:57 pm
Demon lost visibility before attacking. Why - you don't know. Your best guess should be someone stopped concentrating on invisibility spell
Jan 18, 2024 11:00 pm
Mention me when I can take my turn, please.
Jan 20, 2024 9:09 pm
GreyWord says:
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I agree with game designer
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Careful Spell is used the turn you cast a spell and is intended to affect saving throws made that turn
and I will rule that Sickening Radiance which cause all creatures to do saves on their turn and repeat them every turn when... not be affected by Careful Spell performed once on your turn.
I actually took Careful spell and Sickening Radiance to take advantage of this combo. So Careful spell would not allow them to be immune even the first round?
[ +- ] Careful Spell (S:MM)
IMO the rules as written do not state this. I understand the rules as indedded do not always match RAW. They usually write errata to clarify things like this. As it is written this is not touched on at all as it never says turn or round or anything about a time frame. (I will revise my in game post to move the spell focus.)

I understand why but it frustrates me and I just wanted to vent.
Last edited January 20, 2024 9:18 pm
Jan 21, 2024 8:42 am
I've double checked forums and seems like there are a split on opinions. Those who agree with game designer point out RAW "Careful Spell" description start with When you cast which limits ability timing, there seems to be enough DMs who would rule different.

So looks like you are just unlucky to have a DM who trust game designer opinion on his own game.
Jan 21, 2024 3:48 pm
I as a player of course want the option. As a DM I get that allowing ST to be skipped without cost is bad. So I was thinking is split the difference and allowed 1 round at the time of casting to auto succeed ST and hoping it was persistent.
The problem with english it that "When you cast . . . " can also mean that you must declare and pay the affect when you cast.

Proper wording for the interpretation should be something more like
Quote:
You can protect some of creatures from a spells full force by spending 1 sorcery point and choosing a number of creatures, up to your Charisma modifier (minimum of one creature), that will automatically succeeds on their saving throw against the spell when you cast the spell.
Jan 21, 2024 4:43 pm
@Psybermagi
I hope we could agree that
1. RAW are ambiguous
2. When rules are ambiguous it's DM's decision. And my decision is to listen game designer. It will always be.

I do agree that it may have been a good idea to update 5e rules affecting any saves until the start of your next turn rather than "on your turn". Nevertheless my biggest problem is to agree to apply it in current game situation, because Pin do not see the characters and don't even have any idea if they are even in the area of the spell when he cast it. To prevent spell from affecting named PCs the Spell should be intelligent and selective. And I just don't see 5e magic to posses it's own intelligence.
Jan 21, 2024 5:05 pm
Totally agree it is your call. I admit to disappointment/frustration due to failed plans, sigh, but it is not a big deal.
And yes targeting thing without full knowledge is metagaming. The main objective was to fill the room I could see and hopefully the tunnel as I felt it was safe to assume no party members were in it. The metamagic was to help cover that but as it is not applicable then the assumption is Pin made a good guess and got lucky not to affect the party.
Last edited January 21, 2024 5:05 pm
Jan 23, 2024 2:22 pm
@Psybermagi
I believe we had an agreement that my ruling is - Careful Spell does not work with Careful Spell as per game's designer tweet.
Are there other source of protection for your familiar to ignore spell effect? Could you please point me out to it?
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The quast, protected by Pins sorcery ignores the magic field
Jan 23, 2024 2:48 pm
Yes we did. I added the Con fail.
Moving on
Last edited January 23, 2024 2:51 pm
Jan 24, 2024 8:12 pm
Wow. Bhrok the Glorious is Glorious or is 'Goreious'
Jan 24, 2024 9:05 pm
I am sorry. Puns are not allowed.
You are now cursed with Disadvantage on your next attack.

:p
Jan 24, 2024 9:06 pm
I am sorry. Puns are not allowed.
You are now cursed with Disadvantage on your next attack.

:p
Jan 25, 2024 8:21 am
I was pointed out Barbarian rage provide resistance against magical slashing, so Bhrok half that damage from crit AoO
Jan 25, 2024 8:42 am
GeneCortess says:
Wow. Bhrok the Glorious is Glorious or is 'Goreious'
😂

Maybe behind his back, that is his name. 🤣
Feb 6, 2024 4:30 pm
GreyWord says:

No advantage unless I'm missing something: I'm probably missing something but 1) If you can see ghouls, so can, so the rule about unseen attackers does not apply 2) You never took Hide action which is the other source of advantage I am aware of
Yeah I want sure about that. One thing I have seen go both ways was the fact that I was never in their line if sight to begin with so I wad unseen and may or may not be considered hidden by that simple fact. Some DM still require the hide action, invisibility, or some other mechanic. Other allow 1 round advantage but most just a single attack with it. I haven't seen this clarified in rules, just opinions that site the unseen attacker and attack reveal position rules, so am not sure how it is supposed to go. RAW seems to go with 1st attack only.
To be clear, I am not arguing, just starting why I did it and posted a note about it. If anyone can point me to the rules on full cover and unseen but not using the hide action that would be great
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