It's raining in London... again (OOC)

We can see if anyone else has anything valuable to add, maybe they know Nigel Crane (Put a Face to a Name) and are owed a favour? Else you will need to persuade Nigel to meet with you (though if you Hit the Streets we probably assume they are willing to meet?) then may need to negotiate with Nigel to gain access to that information.

Sorry, now I got lost. I was texting Mark about the Surveyors, so not sure how Rhiannon got in all this. :-) Perhaps we can sort this out just by saying we have a messaging group all of us?

Technically Put a Face to a Name applies to people, not Factions, but we can also use it to determine if, and how well, you know a Faction by using it on a the first member of that Faction you encounter.

You can also just say you have or have not heard of them or their Faction independently. If you haven't and no one else has then they can be a nobody or a mystery you can examine later, but there is little reason to say you don't know someone who has been established as an actor in the city —as happened here— so we probably only use this choice if none of the players know of them.

If anyone knows about them, then they are a mover and shaker in the city and you might as well roll the move to see. We always have the choice to say a Miss means you don't know them, and I won't force Debts on the roller unless we all agree it is more interesting.

So rolling the Move has little downside and two upsides: You get Advancement ('XP') if you have not already marked the Circle, and it might turn out they Owe you a Debt which is valuable for opening the door.

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The Surveyors are Power, like yourself, but they may not be 'actual wizards' by your definition, they are not one of your Wizardly Orders.

You can roll Put a Face to a Name on Nigel Crane, or you can say you know someone else who might be in their Faction.

Yes. It is often easiest to assume we all know what is happening with each other at a reasonable time-frame. Then we explicitly state what we don't tell each other and try to keep that information compartmentalised. In a case like this there is little reason to not get everyone else involved in the question.

You guys can also decide if there are any NPCs on these message groups, and state if we are using a list that excludes anyone. Then people like Jena or Charles Whittier, or other useful NPCs can chirp up and offer suggestions if appropriate. These NPCs need not be on the general list, but we easily say that Rhiannon forwards relevant messages to her Hunters' Society if it helps.

@gnomius, @oopsylon, @Stalker05:

Anyone who wants can Put a Face to a Name with Nigel Crane of The Surveyors. Then remember to Mark Advancement (Adv?) in Power.

This is probably the only chance you get to roll that Move on this NPC, you don't get to save it for the next time you encounter them to cheese the Advancement system. (If you did not see the message and don't engage with the story involving them then you might be able to justify rolling the next time instead.)

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@Ysolde: Presumably Rhiannon does not roll, per the post where it says "I know one of them. They don’t owe me" but if you want to still roll it might turn out you Owe them which could be a fun reason why you are trying to get someone else to approach them instead of going yourself? :)

Sure, let me roll!

Remember Don't Edit. Rather add a new post after the roll so people who have read your previous don't get messed up.

Ah, okay.

But if I warn in the post that I am going to edit it, and the post is empty, that theoretical reader would check it again, right? ;-)

Sorry, just arguing for the sake (and pleasure) of it, I'm okay with your rules. :)

Probably. Though, when? Do we keep checking till the edit comes? Adding a new post uses the site's features to let us know.

In this case there was nothing to really add, since this Move does not have strong fiction associated with it (hence the roll without fiction first being valid at all). Just letting us know that it is time to check again would be helpful.
Understood. :)

Do you have a preference? I think it may make the most sense, given that you called others for help, to not know Nigel. But you did know that The Surveyors existed, so we could explain away your knowing Nigel and Owing him, maybe it is news (bad news) to you that he is part of that Faction?

Maybe I could know him from past times, but I didn't have a clue that he was part of the Surveyors faction now?

OK. Let's do that. You knew he was involved with something magical, and he helped you with something in the past and you Owe him for it, but his Surveyorship is news to you.

It seems The Surveyors are both a very old and a very new Faction. We will need to see in play how that can be true. :)

Missed Advancement Marking:

• Rhiannon, Mark Wild for rolling Put a Face to a Name for Millicent Fawcett [ref]. You Mark the Circle even on a Miss.

• Jacob, Mark Power for rolling Put a Face to a Name Nigel Crane [ref]. You Mark the Circle even on a Miss.

True!

Done, thanks for the reminder.

Hit by some bug. Hopefully feel better tomorrow

Urgh. Hope it's a quick bug, and mild.

Wow! Mysterious guys, these 'Surveyors'. :)

Jacob knows Nigel from before, but does/did not know he is part of this Faction [ref], Rhiannon has, at least, heard that he is with them, but we will wait see if there is more there [per the question] (no pressure Ysolde, take your time).

Do Benji or Mark know him and Owe him? It is getting messy, so more Debts Owed would heavily influence the way the story goes. It is easy to say you don't know him and keep things simple, but we can complicate the relationship of we want to steer the story that way.

These Misses don't block the story. You can still try approach them through Nigel. You can ask around and see if someone you know can introduce you (possibly using the Debts mechanic) or do research into them now that you have all realised there is definitely something going on with them (I mean: that 656!).

I think I’ll keep it simple and say that Benji doesn’t know him

Somewhat better still on and off cold/hot