It's raining in London... again (OOC)

load previous
May 14, 2024 9:20 pm
Forgot to say you can add corruption to my sheet. Should be fine right now.

Also trying to set up a scene a bit before rolling skills.
Last edited May 14, 2024 9:26 pm
May 15, 2024 7:10 am
Ysolde says:
Forgot to say you can add corruption to my sheet. Should be fine right now.
...
Rhiannon done.
Ysolde says:
... Also trying to set up a scene a bit before rolling skills.
Ysolde says:
(in RP) ... lies ... coprolites ...
This seems like it might be Mislead, but I fear you have never seen a child before! You just said this was fossilised dinosaur poo! I am not sure you if you are trying to put them off or to increase their fascination. :)

Do you want to do more setup, or should a Mislead roll determine how well it works?
May 15, 2024 12:15 pm
Just in case it’s not clear in my post, the thing Benji needs that he is Hitting the Streets for is blood :P (or, more specifically, someone to feed on so that he can heal from his head injury)
May 15, 2024 12:38 pm
oopsylon says:
... Hitting the Streets for is blood ...
They have their own problems right now. Rolling the dice is always a risk. :)

Don't forget to mark Advancement in Mortalis.
May 15, 2024 3:08 pm
Mark is going to work more on the wand to identify the demons or how it was crafted. He wants to get more information on Chaudry and his whereabouts. Will this be Hit the streets move for Chaudry? What move for the Wand, though?
May 15, 2024 3:19 pm
Stalker05 says:
... What move for ...?
It all depends on what you actually do in the fiction. Deal with the fiction of what you are doing first, then we can see if any Moves apply, don't think about the Moves and the mechanics first.

If you go out and talk to people, that might be Hit the Streets, or it might lead to the need for that move. But you know people (in your Order, for instance) who might be able to help you without needing to roll anything, depending on how you approach them. You also have 'an extremely knowledgeable assistant' who might be able to help you with answers.
May 16, 2024 2:34 am
vagueGM says:
[
This seems like it might be Mislead, but I fear you have never seen a child before! You just said this was fossilised dinosaur poo! I am not sure you if you are trying to put them off or to increase their fascination. :)

Do you want to do more setup, or should a Mislead roll determine how well it works?
Yes well she’s going more for actual feces than "Cool Dinosaurs" hopefully a 7 works in misleading them.
May 16, 2024 5:32 am
I can't seem to find out if I ever named my assistant. I am thinking about naming her, Jena.
May 16, 2024 9:01 am
Ysolde says:
... Yes well she’s going more for actual feces than "Cool Dinosaurs" hopefully a 7 works in misleading them.
It is a Partial Success, so it works, somewhat. If any of the kids know what coprolite is they will be more interested than put off, but that is why it is 'partial'.

On a 7 on Mislead you get to choose two of the options, but they need to be supported by the fiction, and are about your 'opposition' which is the kids, so your options are obviously limited. Which of the options are you thinking of choosing, If they are not already covered by the response, I will try to work them into another response or later events if I can.
May 16, 2024 9:02 am
Stalker05 says:
I can't seem to find out if I ever named my assistant. I am thinking about naming her, Jena.
I don't recall them having any description before, there is a lot going on during Character Creation so I tend to skip asking questions about details that we don't need to worry about yet. As you did, we can see the details when they come up in the story.
May 16, 2024 10:47 am
I think Jena is a geeky girl of age 24. She is pursuing University education and studying occultism and its depiction in different culture. I think she is aware of the supernatural but has an inquisitive but fearful relationship with it. Jena was researching occult lore and was kidnapped by a cult of sorcerers who wanted to use her as a vessel. But, Mark saved her from them and helped her to recover from the traumatic experience. She became aware of the supernatural after that but is scared to actively go searching after it. So, she sees Mark as a capable source of all Supernatural lore and guardian who can help her gather more knowledge without directly interacting with powerful entities. That's why Mark had told her to do research and help him understand the myriad magical things he has gathered throughout his life as a Wizard of the Order.

Mark's relationship with Jena is somewhere between guardian and protégé, and an elder brother and sister. Jena finds Mark as a dependable person who can give her advice regarding her problems, and Mark finds her immense knowledge of occultism, a very useful gift on which he can safely rely (without acquiring debt). Mark once asked her whether she wanted to be a wizard but she refused, which is a big mystery to Mark. A talented individual like her would have made a powerful wizard. However, he never forced her.

By the 'well-known' place, Mark actually meant the sanctum. But, Jena knows about the Sanctum being cursed, so I guess we can change the well-known place to a local cafe, where Mark and Jena usually meet to discuss new projects and plans or everyday life. I think, Jena will be waiting in the cafe and Mark will reach there. Can you suggest a cafe close to where Mark lives? My inspiration for Jena is Scooby-Doo's Velma.
May 16, 2024 11:44 am
Stalker05 says:
... aware of the supernatural ... but fearful ... told her to do research and help him understand the myriad magical things he has gathered ...
Interesting. I like it, but just make sure that it sufficiently covers your needs for 'an extremely knowledgeable assistant'. The fiction you define may limit what sort of information you can get from her, and especially what sort of timeframe she needs to get you answers.

If we find that this is too restricting later, we can reveal new sources of information with (or to) her.
Stalker05 says:
... guardian and protégé ...
So, similar to Josephine? Is that a coincidence?

(Are you sure you want both to be 'J names', similar starting names can get confusing and lead to mistakes... (which can be fun in-game)).
Stalker05 says:
... be a wizard but she refused, which is a big mystery ...
Possibly a good source of 'reveal new sources of information with her' if we need.
Stalker05 says:
... Jena knows about the Sanctum being cursed ...
Does that mean she does not go there? Or just that she prefers not to when she does not have to?

You are not meeting at your home, does Jena know about Josephine? If so, what is their relationship like? How old is Josephine?
Stalker05 says:
... Can you suggest a cafe close to where Mark lives? ...
We can leave that vague and undefined. 'A Cafe nearby' is good enough and does not lock us down.
Stalker05 says:
... My inspiration for Jena is Scooby-Doo's Velma. ...
I don't know Scooby-Doo, but I think you have described her well enough that that lack is not significant.
May 16, 2024 1:18 pm
I am thinking Jena has encyclopaedic bookish knowledge but not practical ones. But, we can modify her later, when it is necessary and expand on her arc. I don't know why but I just came up with Jena, and you are right, that's like two women, which Mark is taking responsibility on. Though for Jena, it's a bit more closer, like brother and sister. I am thinking Josephine is at her teens, 17 to be specific. I think Jena knows about Josephine because Mark discusses life with her. Jena and Josephine are well acquainted, but they haven't formed a deep bond yet.

As for the sanctum, Jena doesn't like going there unless it is necessary.
May 16, 2024 1:23 pm
I also neglected to mention: Since Jena is your assistant, we assume you pay her, so Debts don't come into it... unless you ask her to go above and beyond.
Stalker05 says:
... Jena and Josephine are well acquainted, but they haven't formed a deep bond yet.
...
Which has been with you longer?
May 17, 2024 12:28 am
Is observing the sergeant for an extended period of time sufficient to trigger Figure Someone Out?
Last edited May 17, 2024 12:46 am
May 17, 2024 9:27 am
oopsylon says:
Is observing the sergeant for an extended period of time sufficient to trigger Figure Someone Out?
That could trigger the Move, but look at the questions in Figure Someone Out and make sure they make sense for the situation and what is happening. How would your character be able to get any of these answers?

Many of the questions don't make sense (that is normal, but here is 'most' rather than 'many'):

'who's pulling your character's strings?' is not valuable, it is clearly the system and her superiors and her job. She is just doing her job and the tortoise is not her concern (tortoises can go months or even years without food, they are famously inveterate survivors).

She has no 'beef' with anyone, and is not 'hoping to get' anything from anyone, and is not 'worried about anything happening' —outside the normal worries.

She is probably not important enough to incur Debts (a nameless goon, essentially). If you want to change that, we could, but the RP already established that you don't know her, and that she holds you in low (or little) regard, so that may just set an important person in your way.
That leaves 'how can I get your character to ...', what? 'let me in'? 'not notice my sneaking in'? We already establishes she won't let anyone who does not have official business in when you made it clear you did not have such business. I suppose we could distract her long enough for you to sneak in, but then what, will that help Lizabeth or just slake your curiosity?

You could always ask her to ask the lawyer to to ask Lizabeth for permission to pop out and see you. That might work.

Or you could try to track down someone who can help you. Maybe you know someone in the police who understands how things work? Mortalis probably? You could Hit the Streets (wait long enough that they show up) and ask them for help. Maybe it is the lawyer you know?

Or, you can just wait and we can skip to what comes next. How bad is your Hunger? Does being hurt make the Hunger worse? Do we need to worry? Up to you.
May 17, 2024 11:41 am
The questions I was hoping to ask were:
 • how could I get your character to tell me why Lizabeth was arrested?
 • how could I put your character in my Debt?

The sergeant won’t help Benji in her official capacity as a police officer, but she’s also a person so she’s not immune to persuasion. By observing her, Benji was hoping to pick up something about her personality or personal life that might give him some idea about how she might be most easily persuaded (e.g. would she be susceptible to bribery? Does she have some hobby or interest Benji could pretend to share? Is there a particular cause or group she might be more sympathetic to? Is there something Benji could help her with that might put her in his Debt? Etc etc). Does that sound reasonable?

On the matter of Debts, is there a reason low-status NPCs can’t incur Debts? Even if they’re low status, they could still owe someone a favour, right?
May 17, 2024 12:05 pm
oopsylon says:
... The questions I was hoping to ask ...
Yeah, those two are the only ones that are really possible.
oopsylon says:
... not immune to persuasion ...
Yes, this could give you a route to Persuade an NPC. That is feasible. The risk of rolling is that you might Miss, the upside is that you get to introduce something into the fiction that will definitely count as leverage for triggering Persuade.

Roll Figure Someone Out and then we can see what you learn. On a success, feel free to tell us what you discover that can serve as leverage for however you wish to Persuade her.
oopsylon says:
... is there a reason low-status NPCs can’t incur Debts? ...
She is a no status NPC, she does not know about the supernatural world and therefore does no participate in the Debts mechanic per the rules.
oopsylon says:
... they could still owe someone a favour ...
Favours are not Debts. Debts are enforceable, both by the mechanics and by everyone in the world who is aware of that whole part of reality.

You could possible get her to owe you a favour, but that would be a purely fictional thing and you would need to talk to her about it to get anything from it. It could be on the same scale as a Debt, but does not have the backing as a currency that Debts do.

If we want to get her involved in the Debts system, then we will turn her into a Status-0 NPC and find that she does know something of your world. This is fine, it makes sense for a grizzled old sergeant to have seen things that are hard to explain, but she is possibly in denial about.

This is sounding more and more interesting, so if you get a Success and choose to invoke Debts, we will do that, you would need to remind her of the reality of the world, and that might have ongoing consequences. If you can get her owing you a Debt you could leverage that to get in to see your friend without needing to roll Persuade, though that would require you doing something for her first, you can tell us what she needs if you have ideas.
May 17, 2024 12:28 pm
vagueGM says:
Roll Figure Someone Out and then we can see what you learn. On a success, feel free to tell us what you discover that can serve as leverage for however you wish to Persuade her.
I’ve added the roll to my post but it was an abysmal failure, unfortunately :P
vagueGM says:
She is a no status NPC, she does not know about the supernatural world and therefore does no participate in the Debts mechanic per the rules.
Ohhh, okay, got it! That makes sense
Last edited May 17, 2024 12:28 pm
load next

You do not have permission to post in this thread.