It's raining in London... again (OOC)

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May 17, 2024 11:34 pm
Sorry swore I posted yesterday
May 18, 2024 10:03 am
Ysolde says:
Sorry swore I posted yesterday
It happens.

It is also three-men's-worth of stone bits. How did you transport all of them to your hunters, on a bicycle? Or did you stash most of them and only bring some samples?

No one talks about the drudgery of the cleanup after demon hunting. Everyone wishes it was like Buffy and they would just whoosh into dust. But someone has to do it. :)
May 18, 2024 1:57 pm
@vagueGM So, I am wondering if you are waiting for me to post about Mark and Jena meeting in the cafe.
May 18, 2024 2:08 pm
Stalker05 says:
So, I am wondering if you are waiting for me to post about Mark and Jena meeting in the cafe.
Yes, I said in the RP for you to describe your meeting with her. Go ahead and show us what the looks like, how that meeting goes, how you ask her for help with this, what you give her, and so on. (Up till the point where it is not clear what happens next and my intervention or a roll might be called for).

I should have followed up and clarified after you answered some of this in OCC. Sorry about that. Requests in RP call for responses in RP, but we can (as we did) talk about details in OOC as needed.

Please describe the meeting, in as much detail as you like.
May 18, 2024 9:47 pm
Stalker05 says:
(in RP) ... "you know I do the night shift." ...
What is her job? Where does she 'work the night shift'?
Stalker05 says:
(in RP) ... Have you looked into wand architecture and components before? ...
Are you expecting her to already know something useful about this stave? It is not a 'wand', but she might be able to tell you that if she knows these things.

Do wizards us 'magic wands'? If so, what for and how? Are there other common 'props' (like your umbrella or the umbrell-drawn goetic symbols [ref])?
Stalker05 says:
(in RP) ... We need to visit the Sanctum. Whatever you know, this won't be completely examined without poking into it with special care. You know what I mean." ...
I am not completely sure what you mean, but you can describe it when you get to your Sanctum.

Do you need anything from me before you go there? This might depend on the answer to the second question about how much she, as a non-practitioner, would know off the top of her head.
May 19, 2024 2:53 am
vagueGM says:
Ysolde says:
Sorry swore I posted yesterday
It happens.

It is also three-men's-worth of stone bits. How did you transport all of them to your hunters, on a bicycle? Or did you stash most of them and only bring some samples?

No one talks about the drudgery of the cleanup after demon hunting. Everyone wishes it was like Buffy and they would just whoosh into dust. But someone has to do it. :)
Let’s go with she stashed them and then came back with her vehicle to collect it.
May 19, 2024 6:42 am
Jena is an assistant librarian at a prominent university (whichever is close to our location, Imperial College of London?) and also works as a consultant in a museum, helping record history and giving educational tours. She also provides history classes to other overseas institutions as online lectures (her night shift jobs). Basically, she loves discussing history and is tentatively looking for an opportunity to pursue doctoral research.

I thought, it was a wand since I could pocket it. But I guess it was a stave. Sorry, my bad. I am thinking that, she could give me information on its crafting material. Maybe it was made with a specific bark. Maybe it has an inscription on it, or a particular design pattern around it's shaft. Maybe the head is made in a particular manner or has something else inside. Whatever information she could give me.

I think wizards have a special way to implement and focus their power. Different order use different styles. Order of Solomon uses goetic symbols drawn to focus their will and intent on the world. Another order might use wand and staff. Another order might use fetishes, while another might use elaborate hand gestures or specific language to impose their will. I was roleplaying the initial conversation with her, where I showed it and asked her initial opinion.

As for the sanctum, I am thinking it to be like a research lab, except it is exclusive to arcane related stuff. Maybe in the sanctum, we can cast complex spells, to see what's inside and how it reacts to various materials and magic. Given that those who used it were demons, doing more research might give us better insight about how infernal magic works. Maybe, I can craft a spell to nullify their staves if I meet them next time. This is also full RP idea. I am guessing the way Mark and Jena work in the sanctum is that she collects all the recorded and proscribed knowledge from the tomes and helps Mark adjust the spells while he draws the power and crafts the spell in order to create or research arcane components.
May 19, 2024 6:48 am
I stopped the RP over there because I thought maybe I will have to convince her to visit the sanctum with me. She is a non-practioner, but she has seen Mark work for quite sometime to superficially understand what is going on.
May 19, 2024 1:08 pm
Stalker05 says:
... I thought maybe I will have to convince her to visit the sanctum with me. ...
This is good characterisation, but remember that she is part of your Sanctum feature, so she should be available for your use. I like having to play out dealing with her fear of the place, so let's do that this time, but we should probably, eventually, resolve that for future convenience?

Maybe she had a scare? The curse did something to her? Maybe that was when she discovered the curse, or came to believe you about it? Or did you only learn about the curse then? Or was that the first time it was serious enough to be a danger? Once she has learned enough to cope with it, or you get that danger under control, she may be confident enough to not need 'persuasion'? We can set a Clock (a general PbtA concept that is not mentioned in Urban Shadows) and see how well you handle this situation, once the clock is filled, her (current) worry is mollified and you don't have to deal with it, but you may have to finish the clock over a few interactions.

This can also lead you towards understanding the 'curse'.
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May 19, 2024 2:42 pm
I am aware of the clock concept and I think this is a really nice place to include them. Maybe the curse can have a clock and so does Jena's fear. Mark can work on the clocks as a side project in finally cleansing the curse and you can probably give another negative complication for the sanctum. I guess, Jena and Mark was aware of the curse but it was one time it became too much for her and gave her a trauma.
May 19, 2024 3:02 pm
Stalker05 says:
... give another negative complication for the sanctum ...
If you resolve a downside in the fiction we don't need to replace it. You can make your place better by working on it. By the same nature, the fiction can add more complications to your Sanctuary (or Ward, or any part of you sheet).
Stalker05 says:
... aware of the curse but it was one time it became too much for her and gave her a trauma. ...
Yes. And trying to pressure her into going now (even if that was not your intent) has made the trauma worse. I am increasing the size of the clock, making it harder to overcome.
May 19, 2024 3:23 pm
How do you want to make the sanctum scenes? Do you want me to describe what sort of things Mark does to get more information about the wand and then make a roll?
May 19, 2024 3:27 pm
gnomius says:
(OOC in RP) Do I get an answer to my Move question of what he really desires that I can get?
How do you go about learning that information in this case? Body language, unspoken hints, some demonic extrasensory perception? Asking leading questions? Piecing together rumours?
May 19, 2024 3:29 pm
Stalker05 says:
How do you want to make the sanctum scenes? Do you want me to describe what sort of things Mark does to get more information about the wand and then make a roll?
You always first deal with the fiction of what you do, then we see if any rolls apply.

Describe the Sanctum. Include any hints towards the curse or the hidden secrets. Use as much detail as you like.

Then show us what you do and how you are trying to get information.
May 19, 2024 3:45 pm
vagueGM says:

How do you go about learning that information in this case? Body language, unspoken hints, some demonic extrasensory perception? Asking leading questions? Piecing together rumours?
I just asked a very straightforward question, and my idea would be to read between the lines in his response: body language, hints that are not said out loud but are still there... This kind of stuff.
May 19, 2024 4:12 pm
gnomius says:
... read between the lines ...
Is that enough? It might not be 'pressing' enough to meet your expectations of the Move, let me know. This does open up the possibility of helping Slippery Jim many times, racking up Debts from him and building your street-level network, as well as learning about the mysterious Beggars' Guild.

You can leverage this to push for more specifics of ways you can help him now. Feel free to suggest tasks you could do for him.
May 20, 2024 3:45 pm
@Ysolde, what was your intent with the 'Hit the streets (mortalis?)' roll [ref]?

By the Move you need to first 'name who you are going to' before making the roll. It is hard to formulate a response to the Miss that does not have supporting fiction, and you did not go anywhere, so all I could do was Hint at Offscreen Badness.
May 20, 2024 3:55 pm
vagueGM says:
gnomius says:
... read between the lines ...
Is that enough? It might not be 'pressing' enough to meet your expectations of the Move, let me know. This does open up the possibility of helping Slippery Jim many times, racking up Debts from him and building your street-level network, as well as learning about the mysterious Beggars' Guild.
Sure, enough to understand his motivation, for sure! Let me see if I can tempt him.
May 20, 2024 11:53 pm
vagueGM says:
@Ysolde, what was your intent with the 'Hit the streets (mortalis?)' roll [ref]?

By the Move you need to first 'name who you are going to' before making the roll. It is hard to formulate a response to the Miss that does not have supporting fiction, and you did not go anywhere, so all I could do was Hint at Offscreen Badness.
To be fair I wasn’t sure what roll to use. I figured she was more looking around the likely areas she thought the demons might have come from. So, in this case looking around the Wizard’s place but, probably not exactly going to see him personally. More, sneaking around his place and seeing if she could find some hints of demonic summoning.
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May 21, 2024 6:11 am
Okay, so Mark is working on how to nullify stave magic in the sanctum. I guess, the MC will tell me the requirements?

@Ysolde Also, just to be sure, did Rhiannon call Mark or someone else named Marc?
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