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Aug 4, 2024 5:37 pm
FYI I asked Keleth to check out the problem.
Keleth says:
The bbcode used wasn't wrong, but somehow broke. I'll look into the break, but for the time being, removed the problematic bbcode in a way I hope sitll makes sense for the post.
And he fixed it as we all can see
Aug 4, 2024 5:40 pm
runekyndig says:
FYI I asked Keleth to check out the problem.
Keleth says:
The bbcode used wasn't wrong, but somehow broke. I'll look into the break, but for the time being, removed the problematic bbcode in a way I hope sitll makes sense for the post.
And he fixed it as we all can see
Thank you, @runekyndig and @Keleth.
Aug 4, 2024 5:40 pm
I actually never saw the break. Which I bring up solely for troubleshooting purposes, because I imagine that's an important tidbit to know.
Aug 4, 2024 5:41 pm
Dipper says:
I actually never saw the break. Which I bring up solely for troubleshooting purposes, because I imagine that's an important tidbit to know.
It’s OK, boss, we are still going to make your life miserable. In the nicest possible way, of course.
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Aug 4, 2024 5:56 pm
Avraham says:
Dipper says:
I actually never saw the break. Which I bring up solely for troubleshooting purposes, because I imagine that's an important tidbit to know.
It’s OK, boss, we are still going to make your lifer miserable. In the nicest possible way, of course.
You wouldn't be true D&D players if you didn't. ;) Today's torture is feeling like I'm so behind on character reviews and background mining, but feeling somewhat unmotivated to dive into it. I was about eight out of twelve characters into doing it with the old group at my former PbP home when things went south, that turned out to be... not necessarily wasted time, because I can just use those characters as NPCs in this game world, but a lot of baby plot ideas got ruined. I had three - THREE - players who made their characters have NPC twin siblings, and two other PCs were written in a way that I could make them secretly twins with each other, separated at birth, and it fit their narratives nicely. I started to have this whole idea around a dark ritual that required the blood of twins to make it work, and I was sparking with ways to make that ritual meet the requirements for my medium-tier Big Bad... and then the dream died on the vine.

I guess I didn't realize how much I needed to properly mourn that before I could get into starting over again.
Aug 4, 2024 7:40 pm
Avraham says:
and that bartender is so slow it feels like he only works three days a week!
https://c.tenor.com/H-yC6d29Un4AAAAd/tenor.gif

One thing I really miss about my old home is it had this concept called "RPXP" where you could hit a little button in the top right of a post you really liked and award someone reputation points for it. :) This was definitely worthy.
Aug 4, 2024 8:24 pm
@Avraham, if I'm going to play my character he is going to be suspicious of Kyle Thomlin skulking around as he has. And now he introduces himself with a false name (Rupert McClintock).
Is he going to be trusted by the group at some point, or is he going lone wolf all the way?
Aug 4, 2024 8:40 pm
runekyndig says:
@Avraham, if I'm going to play my character he is going to be suspicious of Kyle Thomlin skulking around as he has. And now he introduces himself with a false name (Rupert McClintock).
Is he going to be trusted by the group at some point, or is he going lone wolf all the way?
@runekyndig, think about it. First, your character has no idea what my character's name is. Second, the bar was full of people. My character was not wearing the brooch—I took it off before I entered (read my first post). Are you suspicious of the clerk you nearly killed when you tripped over your halberd? He was in the bar and not wearing the brooch either.

I spoke about this with @Dipper before we started, but you are exhibiting exactly what I was afraid of. If players are unable to separate what they know as players from what their characters know, then it is impossible for them not to metagame. If proper separation is impossible, I'm afraid I will have to completely rethink my character. @Dipper, I will wait on a ruling from you, as DM, but under the circumstances, I'm not sure this character idea can continue if runekyndig cannot separate what he knows from what Hal Rook knows.
Aug 4, 2024 8:52 pm
No worries, now that we are straight, let's move forward.
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Aug 4, 2024 8:55 pm
And this is why I encourage the ability to keep things secret from players as well as characters. ;) But diving in:

Avraham, runekyndig isn't bringing this up because he's looking to do anything metagamey. He's seeing what he views as a potential problem (signs of another player putting something higher in value than party unity) and, since he doesn't know you, he's trying to provide kind of a soft warning of, "Hey, this might not be the best way to go about doing things as a group." It's a fair thing to point out, and I commend him for both having the conviction to bring it up and the manner in which he approached it.

Now, that said, runekyndig, Avraham's points regarding why he would somehow stand out at this juncture while nobody else in the tavern does are well made. As indicated, he has cleared with me his intentions and how they might manifest. I won't share the details of that because they're not mine to share, but I will note that I've asked for Deception checks from him regarding anything that might be untoward or dishonest in his approach. You are welcome - nay, encouraged - to make insight checks regarding any parts of his presentation that stick out to you. I will compare your insight roll to his deception roll, make my own private adjudication regarding whether your suspicions have merit, and I will inform you accordingly.

Avraham, I don't want to allude generally to what does and doesn't warrant suspicion, but I would point out that eventually, the Baron's going to come and you're going to wind up revealing your marker (or, I suppose, just not joining the group and making me run a solo game for you in town. :) Wouldn't be the first time.) At that juncture, I think a little retroactive wariness on Hal's part would be more than justified. You may have tipped your hand a bit early here. ;)
Edit: Aaaaand I just caught up on the IC thread, and I guess that revelation happened already, followed by a fairly blunt confrontation. Spicy. :)

Well, I stand by what I said, a little wariness at this point is fair. Though I would definitely cry foul if anyone immediately jumped to, "You lied about your name, then, didn't you!" That would be quite the leap.
Aug 4, 2024 9:08 pm
He did put the pin on before coming over to the table.
Avraham says:
Standing up from the stool, he took the brooch out of his pouch, shined it on his sleeve, and pinned it to his cloak.

He carefully made his way to the corner table.
I think Hal is just suspicious that he didn’t come over right away? Right?
Aug 4, 2024 9:10 pm
Arrcher101 says:
I think Hal is just suspicious that he didn’t come over right away? Right?
Maybe? I dunno, I was going to bring the baron in on tomorrow's post but maybe I'll just do a post for the tavern NPCs and make myself some popcorn while you guys work this out. ;)

(Just kidding.)

(Probably.)
Aug 4, 2024 9:54 pm
Dipper says:
Avraham, runekyndig isn't bringing this up because he's looking to do anything metagamey. He's seeing what he views as a potential problem (signs of another player putting something higher in value than party unity) and, since he doesn't know you, he's trying to provide kind of a soft warning of, "Hey, this might not be the best way to go about doing things as a group." It's a fair thing to point out, and I commend him for both having the conviction to bring it up and the manner in which he approached it.
In that case, I owe you an apology, @runekyndig, for jumping to conclusions. I am not planning on murdering everyone in their sleep. Just yet. Rolls Deception.
Dipper says:
Arrcher101 says:
I think Hal is just suspicious that he didn’t come over right away? Right?
Maybe? I dunno, I was going to bring the baron in on tomorrow's post but maybe I'll just do a post for the tavern NPCs and make myself some popcorn while you guys work this out. ;)

(Just kidding.)

(Probably.)
Thank you, @Arrcher101, for noticing. I am trying my best to represent my thoughts and actions as best my character would have them. If I mess up, please let me know.

@runekundig, I am more than happy to let things fall out as they may. This kind of intrigue adds spice, so long as it's handled well by all. I'm also hoping that the way the story develops, you the player AND Hal the character will understand why I did what I did and how I the player am playing Kyle the character as I do. And I will welcome the suspicion, but endeavor not to act on it until my character perceives it (if he ever does).

Aug 4, 2024 10:43 pm
Dipper says:
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Edit: Aaaaand I just caught up on the IC thread, and I guess that revelation happened already, followed by a fairly blunt confrontation. Spicy. :)

Well, I stand by what I said, a little wariness at this point is fair. Though I would definitely cry foul if anyone immediately jumped to, "You lied about your name, then, didn't you!" That would be quite the leap.
Though if the character acting IC thought the other was acting suspicious and used Insight when he introduced himself . . . .
Aug 4, 2024 10:45 pm
badbaron says:
Though if the character acting IC thought the other was acting suspicious and used Insight when he introduced himself . . . .
Eminently possible. Although, that would slow down the thread quite a bit (which may not be a bad idea) since @Dipper will have to adjudicate every contested roll, and we know he only posts on Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays :).
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Aug 5, 2024 6:16 am
In support to @runekyndig I believe it is most believable any PC should have been paying attention to each character entering the tavern and if they are wearing the brooch, because Provos instructed "be sure that you were wearing it when walking into this place". It wouldn't be hard do notice 3 other character who have brooch and notice than no other character with brooch entered tavern... until one appear to have it suddenly.
I see no meta gaming on that part.
Aug 6, 2024 2:43 am
Oooo. Fallout. Is the roll to see if the bartender did Somthing cheeky to "Ruperts" drink for talking so much smack about them! Hehehe.
Aug 6, 2024 2:45 am
Arrcher101 says:
Oooo. Fallout. Is the roll to see if the bartender did Somthing cheeky to "Ruperts" drink for talking so much smack about them! Hehehe.
Rupert did not get a drink. Nor did Rolant. I’m hitting F5 like a kid.
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Aug 6, 2024 2:45 am
Double post. My iPad is old, I guess.
Last edited August 6, 2024 2:46 am
Aug 6, 2024 2:49 am
Avraham says:
Arrcher101 says:
Oooo. Fallout. Is the roll to see if the bartender did Somthing cheeky to "Ruperts" drink for talking so much smack about them! Hehehe.
Rupert did not get a drink. Nor did Rolant. I’m hitting F5 like a kid.
Oh but they will bring it now, specially for him.
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