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Sep 13, 2024 2:31 am
Sorry, fellas. I've had some unusually busy days at work so haven't been able to comment much on the boards. I aim to catch up tomorrow (Friday) evening.
Sep 13, 2024 5:58 am
That's not a problem for me as my internet service was wiped out from 10:30 am to 12:30 am from a cut fiber optic cable they couldn't find. (Yay.) Because of the delay, I am definitely considering starting the campaign on Monday. On the good news, I do have an artist working on a map for the Old Continents.
Sep 13, 2024 2:51 pm
I have posted some (very rough) continental maps on the lore forums. One in reference to the Old Continents. The other shows the Duchy of Averancia in relation to the Island Continent (or at least, it's assumed to be an island continent. I don't think anyone has sailed around it yet to confirm.)

Which leads to the question, What do People Call the Island Continent? As there is only one nation on the continent, as of yet, according to the Old World, the people that come from the Old Continents from time to time simply call the whole area Averancia, as a generic title. Whether or not this has anything to do with the discoverer of the Continent or anything remotely similar remains to be seen.
Sep 13, 2024 3:23 pm
Constablebrew says:
I don't have to play the occultist - pretty much every other class is available to me. If it's a hard pass for you, let me know and I'll spin up something less disruptive. If you're ok with it tho, I'm prepared to see my character come to an untimely end if that is what it takes to make an amazing and memorable story. If any of those three variations pique your interest more so than the others, let me know. I'm stumped.
No, no, no! Far be it from me to dictate what you want to play and how! You asked for feedback on your ideas, and I gave my feedback based on how I interpreted them and my understanding of Shadowknight's requirements. This is a game, and it is an imagination-based game, so the last thing I want to do is mess up someone else's enjoyment.

That being said, my character is going to be a Lawful Chosen of Elion. So while not as absolutely militantly anti-demon as St. Lutharine, between purity of soul and the flame of righteous judgement, I will have to role-play him as having a problem with someone corrupted-from-the-start. If you go the "addicted" route, that's different. My character won't know in the beginning, and perhaps we can role-play helping to overcome it, but eventually, strongly religious characters (e.g. Chosen or Ecclesiastics) will need to role-play conflict with the corrupt or run the risk of losing their own powers.
Sep 13, 2024 5:39 pm
The Occultist is not a "Hard Pass" for me. I had set up the instructions to prevent characters devoted to Chaos from being in the same party as characters devoted to Law; that way, the characters wouldn't be trying to kill one another right off the bat: but I can see how a neutral occultist could be swayed by darker powers in a believable way (and then meet an untimely end or become the slave of some Demonic Overlord or something like that - Hmmm, Darth Vader much?) and that is an incredible story in and of itself (Especially if the pacing is done correctly, etcetera - better than good ole' George did it anyway).
Sep 14, 2024 1:55 am
Jomsviking says:


Far off on a 1000lbs deadlift. I am a wee lad of only 100kg. My lifetime best was 715lbs. I would need to get on steroids. Not opposed to it, but too poor to afford the gear. Still I am proud of that. The 1000lbs lift was a rackpull I did back in 2022, back when I was ~260lbs. Sadly I am old now. I may never return to my glory days.

But still training and still gaining.
Those are big numbers, guy. Right on.
Hail to the Scandinavian Power Lifter Class. Strong genetics. Even STRONGER Folk Spirit.

Yes, we have to train until we die. Embrace the Struggle. LET'S go.
Sep 14, 2024 1:57 am
Shadowknight says:
Okay, the faiths and philosophies that would be known to your characters (as natives of the Duchy of Averancia) are up in the world building forum. These are the "European" and Elven-based philosophies. There are other cultures besides the "European" one, but for the most part you haven't interacted with any of them.

I know there's an "Oriental" culture and an "Arabic" culture that will have slightly different belief systems, but those would be very alien to most people familiar with the "European" culture. Oh, and the Thrassians. They are a little bit alien to the "Europeans" also.
Makes sense. All the posts on the religions and factions are outstanding. Nice work, DM.
Sep 14, 2024 2:01 am
Constablebrew says:
Guys, I'd like some thoughts/feedback on what you may think would be the most interesting story. I struggled when deciding on which spells and proficiencies to take. I have two characters in mind and can't pick.

In one version, I wanted to min/max the WIS + Performance + Crafting to make ceremonial trinkets with as little risk as possible. That version of Wilfrid would go hard into the black magic Death and Summoning. He would be a skilled singer and calligraphy artist. His fingers and robes would perpetually be stained with inky black smudges from his constant writing. With him, he would carry a case full of sheets of vellum. Many of these are penned with beautiful copies of poems or stories that he sells or gives as gifts. Others are his secret ceremonial trinkets, stored spells to be cast. He would secretly cast something like Choking Grasp or Cause Light Wounds, while also casting Cure Light Wounds regularly. In part because he enjoys the sense of superior benevolence it gives him, and in part to avoid suspicion of the other, dark magic he knows.

In the other version, I wanted a his worst stats as his prime requisites. While he is no fool or idiot, his ego inflates his sense of self. He uses his magic to gain influence (Mystic Aura) and Seduction. He would cast Charm Person and Ensorcellement. He revels in having power over others and being one of the important people in the room.

Both of these character archetypes are cool. But I also have a vision of Wilfrid casting Conjure Cacodemon Spawn. He would love having power over these otherworldly demons. He would believe that summoning these creatures and controlling them is acting on Elion's tenants, bringing these dark creatures under the power of the light. Of course he would know that revealing such a black magic would get him arrested or killed, but that's because those peasants and unenlightened are too idiotic to understand that he is serving Elion, truly. While I love this dark secret, I'm not sure how this would fit in the game world. Choking someone out could be hard to pin on him as black magic. But having demons under his control for a day at a time is a giant red flag.

Wilfrid Aelwynd: https://gamersplane.com/characters/custom/30513/
These both sound very cool. That one artistic guy acting kind of weird handing out scrolls to people sounds like he could generate some captivating scenes with an unsettling atmosphere. Dig it.
Sep 14, 2024 2:07 am
Jomsviking says:
Yeah I have read a *lot* of theology. I myself am a being of order and see the world in terms of harmony and discord myself.

In this game, I am playing The Prophet.

Paradise lies to the west fellow Primals. Will you join my quest for the Sun?
I'd enjoy hearing more about this.
Jomsviking - bro, you are starting to strike me as a kóryos leader type of lad. I'm down for the quest for the Setting Sun.
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Sep 14, 2024 2:11 am
Yes overall, I'm looking forward to that Occultist character story arc. Sounds like some good ideas already.
High suspense potential.
Mystery-maxing.
Sep 14, 2024 3:17 am
Lash says:
Jomsviking says:
Yeah I have read a *lot* of theology. I myself am a being of order and see the world in terms of harmony and discord myself.

In this game, I am playing The Prophet.

Paradise lies to the west fellow Primals. Will you join my quest for the Sun?
I'd enjoy hearing more about this.
Jomsviking - bro, you are starting to strike me as a kóryos leader type of lad. I'm down for the quest for the Setting Sun.
I read a lot of Jack Donovan, The way of men and Being a barbarian. I am also strongly aligned with his Solar Idealism.

I particularly like his criticism of society emasculating men, and I try to incorporate as much of that in my play and writing as possible. So yes I think Kóryos is the right word. I never did marry. A king needs a kingdom, not a queen.

If I happen to inspire that is a joy for everyone.

Stay Solar
Sep 14, 2024 9:19 am
Jomsviking says:



I read a lot of Jack Donovan, The way of men and Being a barbarian. I am also strongly aligned with his Solar Idealism.

I particularly like his criticism of society emasculating men, and I try to incorporate as much of that in my play and writing as possible. So yes I think Kóryos is the right word. I never did marry. A king needs a kingdom, not a queen.

If I happen to inspire that is a joy for everyone.

Stay Solar
Solar like Apollo.

Right on. I'm generally familiar with Donovan - not a fan of him in total package, but some of his themes are surely based. Paul Waggener is the superior voice of that former crew imo.

This Beastmaster of yours here is going to be a savage I feel certain.
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Sep 16, 2024 8:06 am
Starting GP

Rolls

Starting GP - (3d6)

(215) = 8

Sep 16, 2024 12:35 pm
I'm going to make a rule a little clearer here since it is often passed over with great ease. (And Lash, feel free to correct me if I'm doing this wrong.)

You add your ability score modifier to any proficiency rolls that they would be suitable for.

So if you have thief abilities, you would require your Dexterity or Wisdom modifier depending on the type.
Ceremonial spellcasting is a type of proficiency that would require the use of the Intelligence modifier.

Other proficiency rolls benefit from these modifiers, so please keep that in mind as you are rolling checks.
Sep 16, 2024 3:23 pm
@Shadowknight, nothing I own is more than 10gp, so am I safe with my equipment given the marketplaces (IV should have 5 of 2–10)?
Sep 16, 2024 4:23 pm
Avraham says:
@Shadowknight, nothing I own is more than 10gp, so am I safe with my equipment given the marketplaces (IV should have 5 of 2–10)?
Yes, And of course, not everything has to have been purchased in Redstone. Some of you may have made your way to Redstone from Market Town, which has a slightly better economy.
Sep 16, 2024 11:16 pm
With a Market Rating of IV/V a beastmaster has a reaction of 3/2 which is pretty awful.

Is it safe to assume Rafn is just illegally camped out for the day and happens to fall in with the adventurers?

Lets not get run out of town by a pitchfork weilding mob just yet.
Sep 17, 2024 12:45 am
Jomsviking says:
With a Market Rating of IV/V a beastmaster has a reaction of 3/2 which is pretty awful.

Is it safe to assume Rafn is just illegally camped out for the day and happens to fall in with the adventurers?

Lets not get run out of town by a pitchfork weilding mob just yet.
I don't see a problem with that, except that your character would be missing out on official recognition (and potential rewards as a result). But we'll think of something.
Sep 17, 2024 2:09 am
@Shadowknight, I have not added any Fate points to Ængus's character sheet. Should I, and if so, how many?
Sep 17, 2024 6:43 am
All characters start with 4 + Wisdom modifier Fate points (That's also their max for right now.)
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