Charles shambles in after 'Tate', one hand scratching his head while he tries to stifle a yawn. Too damn early he thinks. "Let's hope we won't need it," he says seeing the minigun.
Pilot Maze notes, "If we get in a firefight, this Huey isn't what I would want to be in. With hope this is safe trip. " as she takes a moment to look over the Huey.
"Oh c'mon ma'am. These things were absolute workhorses during 'Nam. The Army used the hell out of them in combat," Hanson says, slapping the tail as he walks up to the bird. "It's no warthog, but I'm not complaining."
Maze half laughs, "Huey. Squad transport copter. Not for fire fare. It will get us there. " She can think of another helicopter she would much rather be in. Maze didn't get her bars from flying transports.
Hanson laughs himself. "Did you not study your history, ma'am? Hueys were used in 'Nam for medevac and troop transport, yes, but they were also used as troop support and as gunships for direct enemy engagement. If you think it's just a "squad transport copter," you're sorely mistaken. Ma'am."
Maze retorts back, "Who do you think you are. I have flown more missions than you have even heard of. The more modern Black Hawks are the choice now over the Huey. "
"Someone who knows their military history. I can wipe my ass with your hours flown. All your missions were, were flying the real military in to get the job done.
The fact Blackhawks were the new replacement for Hueys doesn't magically mean Hueys were only ever used for troop transport. 'Nam officially ended in '75, Blackhawks weren't put into service until '79. Until that point, Hueys did everything. Get over it."
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For the record, what I posted is true. Hueys were used in a variety of rolls, including direct combat, up until they were replaced. It was never just a transport.
Since the Marines still use Hueys -- the Twin Huey up until 2014 (so in game, up until Judgement Day -- and IRL the Super Huey from then till current -- my character is a bit proud/defensive of Hueys.
"Was the Vietnam Conflict not "real life" enough for you? You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Either that, or you're just a shit pilot," Hanson retorts.
Irrelevant. Your pilot said the Huey was just a troop transport, and that's factually incorrect. They were, and continue to be, used in direct engagement. Also, the old Huey was replaced by a new model of Huey that the Marines use.
Read the OOC spoiler, above.
BTW -- In universe, our tech stopped at Judgement Day -- August 29, 1997.
"And I hate dealing with ignorant zeroes whose ineptitude gets good people killed."
OOC: Irrelevant. Your pilot said the Huey was just a troop transport, and that's factually incorrect. They were, and continue to be, used in direct engagement.
It was designed to be a utility helicopter, primarily used for personnel transport and, later, MEDEVAC operations during the Vietnam War.
As per "https://militarymachine.com/bell-uh-1-iroquois-helicopter/"
It doesn't matter what it was designated as. The fact remains, it was used as a gunship in Vietnam, acting in support of troops on the ground and engaging in direct combat. The
As the Vietnam War raged, the Army integrated the helicopter into its wider operations and expanded the platform's role far beyond medevac. The Huey was relied upon to "do anything a horse could do" and subsequently evolved from a tool for troop and supply transport to include direct combat gun support.
Emphasis mine.
Even the basic AI overview on Google says this:
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The Bell UH-1 Iroquois, also known as the Huey, was used in combat in many conflicts, including the Vietnam War, Grenada, Operation Desert Storm, and Bosnia. The Huey was used in a variety of ways, including:
Troop transport: The Huey was used to transport troops and supplies into and out of key strategic positions.
Medevac: The Huey was used to transport medical attention and evacuate soldiers. Armed assault: The Huey was used to protect troop transports and provide ground combat support.
Gunship: The Huey was used to engage the enemy directly as a gunship.
Smoke ship: The Huey was used to lay down smokescreens for air assault operations.
So sorry, didn't want to happened. I'm just trying to tell a story here. I also don't want to deal with that kinda problem (already have 2 kids at home). Again i'm just trying to have fun with fun people. If inacuracy in a fictional story is triggering you, you're just not at the right place. I don't have any real military knowledge but what I saw on the Terminator franchise. With that cleared, if it's ok with everyone we will keep playing.
For the record, inacuracy in a fictional story isn't what "triggered" me. When he moved out of an IC debate and tried to double down and tell me something wasn't true, that's when it became an issue. Same way I would expect people to "correct" me if I said Stephen King didn't write The Running Man, or that Al Gore invented the internet.
You don't need specialized or field-specific knowledge to game. That said, if you absolutely butcher something and someone who knows better corrects you, you have two choices: take it as a learning experience or double down. 🤷♂️