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May 10, 2025 9:00 pm
Drgwen says:

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just extra nerdy and socially awkward, a standard teen geek with ADHD, PTSD, etc (they say to write what you know, yeah? lol!)
thought you were describing me here! lol

edit: all except being a teen... been 30 years since I was that
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May 11, 2025 7:01 pm
Age
So far we seem to have two Humans, one Kel Dor, one Gungan, and I assume Sera is Mirialan? All these species seem to age about close enough to the same rate that we can ignore any differences.

Three of our player characters are 16, do other two want to keep the two year gap, or do we all just want to be 16? It could make things simpler, but that is not always what we want. I only ask because ages were 'chosen' without consultation, so they may be arbitrary?

If you want to 'older' or 'younger' than the others, that is fine too.
May 11, 2025 7:06 pm
Where to Start?
Do we want to start on a space station or large ship of some sort? This stemmed from the roleplay probes we saw, but is not carved in stone. From the sample roleplays the bacta tank could easily be at/near the location where Voss was injured, or it could be on your ship and Voss 'recovers' in transit (tanks can move, though you probably have to abandon it when you flee again, but you are welcome to try take it with you).

If so, we probably have to flee and will have to work out where we end up. The characters may have somewhere they aim to be —anyone's old 'home' comes to mind— but we can decide, as players, where we find ourselves next. This decision would mainly be based on what sort of problem we want to face:
• it could be a busy city, to seek answers;
• it could be an agricultural planet, to try lay low;
• it could be a crime world, if we (the players) want to find ourselves forced into that life.

Another option (stemming from Ka'el Sera meetup sample [ref] or from Brenya peeking around the lower levels of the temple) is that we move the bacta tank scene to the —cleaned up— temple on Coruscant and all start around there, on the run in a busy metropolitan area controlled by the enemy. Many of the same questions of 'what to do' still arise, and you may need to get off-planet before long, and that could be your objective, but that could take a whole game to achieve (especially in PbP).

The choice is ours.
May 11, 2025 7:10 pm
As an illustrative example of what I am thinking for the start scene, and to be adjusted by the above question, we could start with something like this:

Voss (and Brenya?) are on a mission. The clone troopers turn on them. In the end the clones are wiped out, but Voss is severely injured and is placed in a bacta tank to save her life. While in the tank Brenya finds replacement limbs (this implies Brenya 'knew' they needed desperate measures and could not take Voss to a hospital to get proper cybernetics).

At some point Sera and Ka'el join Brenya, and possibly help with the Voss upgrade. They report that they were also attacked, in the same way. It is clearly a widespread issue.

Taryn arrives in her master's fighter. Before she can even confirm that her experience was similar there are clones at the door. The clones troopers are slaughtering everyone!

You have to fight your way out! You are all tired and confused. Voss is hurting and on unfamiliar legs. You have limited weapons (some of you may or may not have lightsabers, you can take guns from the troopers who fall).

Who else is at this facility? Other padawan? Civilians? Do any of them make it out with you?

This is my proposed 'start'. The specifics will depend on how your characters end up, this was just based off what we had at this point, to show how they can all fit together.
May 11, 2025 7:31 pm
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Do we want to start on a space station or large ship of some sort?
That's my vote, but I don't have strong feelings either way.
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...If so, we probably have to flee and will have to work out where we end up... busy city... agricultural planet...
Maybe we can sort this out during the game, In Character. All those options make sense for me.
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As an illustrative example of what I am thinking for the start scene, and to be adjusted by the above question, we could start with something like this:
I liked it =)
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Voss (and Brenya?) are on a mission. The clone troopers turn on them.
Voss and Brenya (and their masters) were probably on a mission together. There are many Star Wars references where two masters, with some affinity and/or under orders from the Jedi Council, go together and take their padawans with them. This probably isn't the first mission they've been on together either. This gives more weight to Brenya's decision ("feeling" / Force sense) to take desperate measures and not take Voss to a hospital.
May 11, 2025 9:28 pm
htech says:
... Voss and Brenya (and their masters) were probably on a mission together. ...
Absolutely. If you both want to be on the same mission, that completely works.
htech says:
... This probably isn't the first mission they've been on together either. ...
So? You are close friends?
htech says:
... This gives more weight to Brenya's decision ("feeling" / Force sense) to take desperate measures and not take Voss to a hospital.
Though you wouldn't take any padawan to 'official hospitals' if you sensed they were being hunted by 'officials'? The point was that you obvious had that sense.
May 11, 2025 11:14 pm
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So? You are close friends?
Will leave that to Runekyndig. :)
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Though you wouldn't take any padawan to 'official hospitals' if you sensed they were being hunted by 'officials'? The point was that you obvious had that sense.
I think Brenya is completely lost and don't know why she is doing this. She is unexpectedly afraid of official hospitals, feels the Impulsive and overwhelming need to flee... She has no idea from whom, what, why, etc.
May 12, 2025 3:50 am
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I assume Sera is Mirialan
Since the art I found suggests that, I'll say yes!
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do we all just want to be 16?
I don't care, myself, as long as we are all the equivalent of teens and, thus, peers.
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Do we want to start on a space station or large ship of some sort?
I'm open on this, but I think a major hub city would be easiest for us to travel unnoticed so that all of us can congregate together. It doesn't have to be Coruscant; Sera might want to get off world, so she could meet up at another location. But in general I like the idea of hiding out in an Imperial city. The batch tank could be in an underground area we are hiding out in or near?

Perhaps Sera intercepts padawans as they arrive on Coruscant and prevents them from going to the Temple, which is still very much unsafe for Jedi? So we are all hiding out in the Underworld levels? Just an idea.

Or perhaps it is a coincidence that Sera flees to a nearby Jedi safehouse/waystation, and these other padawans arrive as well?

In general, though, I am in favor of the proposed origin that @vagueGM laid out above.
May 12, 2025 7:54 am
vagueGM says:
Another option (stemming from Ka'el Sera meetup sample [ref] or from Brenya peeking around the lower levels of the temple) is that we move the bacta tank scene to the —cleaned up— temple on Coruscant and all start around there, on the run in a busy metropolitan area controlled by the enemy.
I kinda like thus idea. I am fine with the space station, but this sounds just a bit cooler
Drgwen says:

Perhaps Sera intercepts padawans as they arrive on Coruscant and prevents them from going to the Temple, which is still very much unsafe for Jedi? So we are all hiding out in the Underworld levels? Just an idea.

That would connect really well with where Taryn's backstory ends
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May 12, 2025 9:02 am
OOC:
I'm catching up on the discussion
htech says:
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So? You are close friends?
Will leave that to Runekyndig. :)
Voss and Brenya are friends for sure. We can make flashbacks to our training from time to time, common references ect.
vagueGM says:
Voss (and Brenya?) are on a mission. The clone troopers turn on them. In the end the clones are wiped out, but Voss is severely injured and is placed in a bacta tank to save her life. While in the tank Brenya finds replacement limbs (this implies Brenya 'knew' they needed desperate measures and could not take Voss to a hospital to get proper cybernetics).
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Lets go with that
Voss is newly injured from the troopers, but her lightsaber is intact and on her person
She is a padawan, not a youngling, so late-teen. I have written down 17 year of age, but anything between 15 and 19 is fine by me.
May 12, 2025 11:17 am
Drgwen says:
... the art I found suggests that ...
I was basing that off the art. Fee free to change it if you prefer.
Drgwen says:
... as long as we are all the equivalent ...
That is what I am asking about. 'equivalent' is a narrow band at that age, a 15 year old is quite a different beast to a 17 year old. And that is also not solely a product of our education system.

If we want to be different we can be, else all converging on 16 seems simple enough, and seems to be what we have settled on.
Drgwen says:
... but I think a major hub city would be easiest for us to travel unnoticed ...
That sounds more like a question for wherever we end up after this first scene. Where we start need not be a place we can play more than that first fight and flight.
Drgwen says:
... so that all of us can congregate together. ...
Well, congregating you all is simple enough. There is a coded message telling all Jedi to 'return', and the place we start can easily be where that message directs people in your area to return to.

The attack on the temple happens just after sunset, Obi-Wan and Yoda don't fix the signal until some time the next morning. Anakin does not fall till later (time-difference unknown since it is a different planet... planets wreak havoc on timezones:).

Out getting together can all happen in the hours between the Order and the 'stay away' signal.

Bacta works in a matter of hours, so this timeframe works.
Drgwen says:
... It doesn't have to be Coruscant; ...
Yeah, that is a tricky planet, especially to start an Order 66 backstory on and then return to. But we can make anything happen if you want it to. Let us know what was 'just for example' and what was important to your character's story.

One would assume the coded message directed Jedi to a 'local location'? So, if you were on Corusant, then it would direct you to the temple, not where the others are. But if you want start there, we can make a plan.

With this framework in place, tell us where you all want to be when the Order goes down, or if you don't have strong feelings, tell us that. :)
Drgwen says:
... Sera might want to get off world, so she could meet up at another location. ...
Where the others are could be a 'known safe location', special to your group, so you head there when you see the temple fall.

If you witnessed and know about the attack on the temple, then the we need to time your arrival such that you don't spoil the surprise for the others. This game only has 'real world consequences' for us to judge our actions by, so we have to keep them in mind when we narrate what we do.

All any of you 'know' before the start is that you were attacked by clones. You don't all know the details of what happened, and especially not of what is to come.
Drgwen says:
... in general I like the idea of hiding out in an Imperial city. ...
We can make that our next destination, after we flee. It makes sense for your characters to go somewhere like that. We can change to somewhere else if that gets too hot.

You all were trained in the Jedi temple since you were babes, you don't know how to 'work and make money' (even Sera, who might think she held down a job, was just exploited and was a kid, so has no real idea:). This business of looking after yourselves is new to you all. You will find that Imperial cities are not the easiest to get by on without a job.
Drgwen says:
... The batch tank could be in an underground area we are hiding out in or near? ...
The bacta tank is a thing of the past, it is backstory and not part of what we do after the story starts. If Voss needs more bacta, then you will need to find more bacta. You are welcome to try take this one with you, but having it is not a foregone conclusion.
Drgwen says:
... Perhaps Sera intercepts padawans as they arrive on Coruscant ... Or perhaps it is a coincidence that Sera flees to a nearby Jedi safehouse ...
Let's decide which opening scene we want, then we can decide which of those fits. The Force and 'coincidence' are strong partners. :)
May 12, 2025 11:18 am
Owlbeer says:
... this sounds just a bit cooler ...
This could be our next location, after the space station. That also gives us more time to spend here.
Owlbeer says:
... That would connect really well with where Taryn's backstory ends ...
It does. But a very similar scene would happen on the space station, with everyone.
Owlbeer says:
... I am fine with the space station ...
Cool. That seems like the simplest to kick us off. Waiting for one more 'vote' and then I will think about starting this.
May 12, 2025 11:19 am
runekyndig says:
... Voss and Brenya are friends for sure. ...
Great.
runekyndig says:
... her lightsaber is intact and on her person ...
Cool, we can work out what to do with it after you escape. If you want to sacrifice it during the escape that is an option too.
runekyndig says:
... anything between 15 and 19 is fine by me. ...
Cool. If you don't have strong attachments to being 17 and a year older than the others we can just say we are all 16?
May 12, 2025 11:36 am
I can't remember if I voted or not... Space Station is my preference.

He will still have an intact lightsaber. He will eventually dismantle it and keep the Kyber Crystal.

I'm flexible on everything else and will go whatever way the story plays out.
May 12, 2025 11:39 am
vagueGM says:
I was basing that off the art. Fee free to change it if you prefer.
No need! I like it. And yes, 16.
vagueGM says:
Where the others are could be a 'known safe location', special to your group, so you head there when you see the temple fall.

If you witnessed and know about the attack on the temple, then the we need to time your arrival such that you don't spoil the surprise for the others.
Sera heard about the attack on the temple by clones, but not the scope or intent of Order 66. She just knows the Temple isn't safe. So perhaps she heads to a "mustering" location, where Jedi know to congregate in emergencies. We all meet up there and have to fight/flight out? Having us all try to go to the Temple itself seems unrealistic; surely it will be heavily guarded after the Order, yes?
May 12, 2025 11:44 am
I like Drgwen's muster point then fight/flee... perhaps to then go to space station or even an imperial world to survive on as previously discussed
May 12, 2025 11:53 am
Balthazar says:
... Space Station is my preference. ...
That's everyone. Space station it is.
Balthazar says:
... I'm flexible on everything else ...
Cool.

Do Ka'el and Sera still get together before coming to the space station? Decide between the two of you, you can show us when we post the scene.

Your sheet kinda reads like it is from a different game. We will not be using DnD attributes, for instance, and it possibly refers to specific mechanics that are not relevant. We can summaries the gist of it, though. I have not looked at the sheets in any detail, though, not until they are less in flux.

We also won't be bothering to track numbers for things like credits, we will assess what sort of resources you have on a case by case basis. We may decide that you 'have the means to live comfortably' or 'need to scrounge and beg for what you need to stay alive', all based on the fiction at hand.
May 12, 2025 11:55 am
I will set up a start scene in a little while.

You all can then show us how your character appears in that scene. Then we can see what comes next, based on how it plays out.
May 12, 2025 12:11 pm
My sheet is for me to keep track of my character... I used vague input for stats like Below average, average and above average so I know what he his strengths and weaknesses are... I keep track of what items he has for my own lack of memory (50 year old unmedicated ADHD-PI)... I don't see my sheet as having any mechanical effect on the game itself.
May 12, 2025 8:57 pm
vagueGM says:
Do Ka'el and Sera still get together before coming to the space station? Decide between the two of you, you can show us when we post the scene.
@Balthazar -- yes, let's stick to the intro you proposed!

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