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Jul 7, 2025 8:47 am
Jomsviking says:
What if we summon devils to protect our beloved ones?

Use undead as we would robots?

Solve all the problems of the world better than good ever could simply by adding a bit of evil?

Evil Inc.
Most evil comes not from people performing evil as an end in itself, but as a means towards some incentive they find important enough, pretty much the way you describe. Omelas.
Jul 7, 2025 9:09 am
Yes indeed, I have myself mastered evil and good as I define them. Being neither but capable of either. I find myself marvelling at the dichotomy of it.

To do the right thing carries no reward, often comes at great cost, and will often result in the doer being punished.

But to do the wrong thing grants immediate reward, only costs the victim, and often results in adulation.

I suppose at the end of the day, evils end is justification - paradoxically. There are few people in history who are both feared and loved. But being one of them has always resulted in great, often terrible, accomplishment.

That is why Neutral Evil is best, methinks.
Jul 7, 2025 9:33 am
Jomsviking says:

What if we summon devils to protect our beloved ones?
Did the devil agree to being summoned and enslaved to do your bidding? :)
Jul 7, 2025 12:07 pm
They're devils. They're not real people.
Jul 7, 2025 12:07 pm
MaJunior says:
They're devils. They're not real people.
Ah, so you can't use them to solve Capchas for you.
Jul 7, 2025 12:09 pm
I think they can. Those are just to ensure you aren't a warforged... er, robot.
Jul 7, 2025 8:56 pm
Heyde says:
Jomsviking says:

What if we summon devils to protect our beloved ones?
Did the devil agree to being summoned and enslaved to do your bidding? :)
*Hides Ars Goetia and the Lesser Keys of Solomon behind his back*

Oh yes sure, absolutely.
Jul 7, 2025 9:48 pm
Jomsviking says:
I suppose at the end of the day, evils end is justification - paradoxically. There are few people in history who are both feared and loved. But being one of them has always resulted in great, often terrible, accomplishment.

That is why Neutral Evil is best, methinks.
So evil just comes down to a point of view really.

Might need a Bard in the group then.
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Jul 7, 2025 11:53 pm
I know this isn't where this thread is going but I was thinking of an evil character who is comic relief evil.

Drakewarden with wisdom/constitution maxed and Dex/Str low.

I picture the role play being the evil mastermind whose pet/minion is super competant but he isnt at all.
Jul 8, 2025 12:49 am
valdattaMadun says:
I know this isn't where this thread is going but I was thinking of an evil character who is comic relief evil.

Drakewarden with wisdom/constitution maxed and Dex/Str low.

I picture the role play being the evil mastermind whose pet/minion is super competant but he isnt at all.
So... Invader Zim and Gir.
Jul 8, 2025 1:58 am
Honestly thinking King Julius and Maurice from Madagascar (though not really villians)
Jul 8, 2025 2:46 am
Man... Invader Zim and Gir is what you want. The entire series Gir (who was defective) is portrayed as a sidekick who is absolutely unhinged and random while Zim is the bumbling underachiever who tries too hard... oh, he's trying to take over the planet. He's trying really, really hard. He just isn't good at it. But Gir... Gir would rather make soap with bacon in it, cook waffles, and sing a song with exactly one word for months nonstop. (The word was "doom.") Gir was an adorable bumbling joke.

Until the episode where Zim was fed up with Gir's chaos, and fixed him.

Gir was absolutely terrifying.
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Jul 8, 2025 7:46 am
I never got into Invader Zim. But thoroughly enjoyed Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and Squee.

I suppose comic relief has its place. Evil for the sake of humor. I would use such a character as the scapegoat. A bit of divine comedy. It could work really well, as the glorious antipaladin seeks adoration and such an obvious foil exist to shift blame on.

Like Goku and Mr. Satan. But we are bad guys.

I would eagerly push such evil into becoming something resembling Kefka Palazzo.
Last edited July 8, 2025 7:55 am
Jul 10, 2025 4:15 pm
So all this being said... I think it's safe to say there's interest. 😂
Jul 10, 2025 4:36 pm
Twisted, malicious interest.
Jul 10, 2025 4:41 pm
Sinister, plotting interest
Jul 10, 2025 7:39 pm
Dark, depraved interest.
Jul 10, 2025 7:44 pm
Human sacrificing, baby eating interest.
Jul 11, 2025 1:41 pm
Darkly humorously plotted and planned interest
Jul 11, 2025 1:53 pm
In light of preferences regarding choice of the system, and number of interested candidates, I should probably skitter back to my web in a dark corner.
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