OOC Chat

She didn't see him fight, and therefore does not suspect that he fought. Kind of her own mental version of "pics or it didn't happen." Her next question might be, "So what's with all the blood?"

I agree, I LOVE having CancerMan in my games. He always brings great RP to the 'table'. Everyone else here does as well, though. And our DM is top-notch!

This is one of my favorite games on here, that's for sure!

This is turning bad quickly!

@HypCo: I'm fine to do a fight either way: mechanically or just narratively. Just looking at the classes, short of RNG, there's little way that Ygne could win, buuut... she doesn't know that, aaannnd... it probably wouldn't even deter her if she did. I'll also roll just in case, until an official determination is made. :)

Well, it looks like it'll probably be Frick and Ygne vs Elspa and Rygnar.

We're probably gonna die!

I don't know, I don't really see Elspa as the type to join in to this unnecessary fight. As much as Rygnar would enjoy for her to fight by his side, I view Elspa as a more reasonable person.

I hope you're right!

Rygnar would know that Elspa usually sees these types of fights as dogs/wolves establishing a pecking order. Then again, in the past these things were settled with fists rather than weapons, so she's playing the waiting game on this one.

I was about to post, but now I'm feeling hesitant. I'd like to do what my character would realistically do, but I'm not interested in ruining anyone else's fun. I'm comfortable with Ygne getting killed by a PC, which would've been the case in a fight between Rygnar and Ygne, but I'm not comfortable killing other PCs, which could be the case if Ygne and Frick ganged up on him. Ygne is angry because she felt ganged up on by the group. Even if Rygnar was the only one grabbing her, there was (by the time of him dropping her) no one standing up for her, and the issue was about to be casually glossed over, so she felt as though the others condoned what had happened, and that she had to stand up for herself. Frick charging in changes that, and so I could see her being comfortable with dropping it now.

Of course, the same probably couldn't be said for the barbarian in the midst of his rage.

Personally, I'd like Len's input before continuing. And if we are going to fight, I would like to know if we are going to use rules or just settle it in the narrative, before posting. I'm sorry if this holds things up. I hadn't intended on Ygne's ignorant comment derailing anything, but I feel like what it has led to could be sensitive ground, so I'm treading carefully.

You wouldn't be ruining my fun, I've been enjoying this game from the get go and will most likely continue to regardless of what happens. I knew the risks and I'm playing him how he would react; if he falls, he is the only one to blame. Due to the nature of PbP, I'd be fine with retconning what happened if Ygne would of reacted differently by Frick stepping in to defend her. I could see Rygnar acting differently if Ygne was different.

The only reason he acted as he did was because of the word coward. He didn't care about the leash comment, just the coward part. Case and point, when Elspa and Rygnar had an amazing defensible spot at the top of the stairs, he heard the word coward and gave that up because he loses his thought process at that word and feels he has to prove himself. Just to ease some worry, while Rygnar would most definitely confirm the kill, I will not be taking it that far, unless MoMo specifically asks to be slain due to wanting a new character.

I don't see it as derailing or holding up, this is part of our ever-expanding story. Whatever happens, I appreciate your concern and thoughtfulness.

Jarveena's reaction will depend on whether it's just blades drawn or if it's actual blows traded. I too am enjoying this tense moment and don't see it as a hold-up. I trust and respect everyon in this group so I'm not worried. :-)

I think she would still snap and draw her blades and say what she said. It's more Frick coming in after the attack had begun that would make Ygne put her weapon away again.

Regardless, thanks for the reassurances, HypCo. While I want to play Ygne as I imagine her, the last thing I want to do is spoil the game for anyone as a result. Since I'm going to be unavailable for posting until a decent bit later today, I'll go ahead and post now.

Ygne dashed away to 60 feet. Rygnar couldn't reach her, right? This is mostly just important because I'm hoping Rygnar's rage can end, if no one damages him, and he can't make an attack roll.

Oh shit, you are right! I totally misread your turn order.

No worries. Could've been just as likely that I misread the scenario, so I wanted to be sure. :)

If we were at a table together, this would be the time I'd give you a big ol' hug. That was a close call avoided by clever thinking on your part. Well done!

It was the best solution I could think of while still being something that Ygne would believably do. Thanks for letting me ponder over it for a bit.

Yeah you guys, that was close, and well played! I'd just logged in, read the fight under way, and quickly wrote up Jarveena's reaction, but then the situation got resolved before I clicked Post.

Before Rygnar stood down I was going to add this OOC note to Jarveena's yelling:

I don't even know how Moss would have reacted in that situation, anyway he shouldn't be gone for long.

Wow, a lot of stuff happened! Haha, I should disappear more often! Looks like you guys sorted things out quite nicely. A couple of comments:

You can't have a great game without taking risks. Some of the best scenes in this game have resulted from all of us taking risks, and we need to keep taking risks. Taking a risk doesn't always work out. Sometimes characters die, sometimes TPKs happen, sometimes feathers get ruffled. But a game without risks is a mediocre game.

I think this scene with Rygnar fighting with Ygne ended up fine in the end, and will supply plenty of RP fuel for the future. However, there was some friction involved, and we can learn from it. I liked how the OOC conversation paralleled the action.

If we want to keep the game going great, we have to keep taking risks and expect things to fail sometimes. You guys handled it like pros, and I'm not at all surprised in the least.

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Another separate thought: there are two perspectives that we generally adopt when playing RPGs. The first mode is the first-person perspective from your character. We ask ourselves "What would our character do? How would they react to this? How would they feel about that?"

This is an important perspective, but we are not just managers of characters and NPCs. We are also co-authors of a story. Like writers in the writer's room of a great TV show, we have to ask ourselves "What story arc is my character on? What story arc are the other characters on? How do my character actions move these arcs forward?"

All this tension might be setting up a really cool future scene where Ygne and Rygnar unite. This is the classic movie format. The first half of the Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy is just the main characters fighting each other. It just makes the moment where they all join forces together all the more sweet! We want that to happen organically, but sometimes a little forethought about where we want scenes to end up can guide our character interactions just enough to nudge the game in the right direction.

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Another thought: Jabes, that was a cool idea for Jarveena! I know the situation was already on the way to be resolved before you posted, but in the future, if it is an inter-party thing or a story thing, feel free to have a random psychic burst! If you think you're going to go down that multiclass path eventually, then it would serve the purpose of advancing that story and resolving a conflict. I trust your storyteller instincts; if you have an opportunity like this in the future, feel free to jump on it :)

Also, I had the idea that if you go Fighter 6 eventually, you could take the Magic Initiate feat rather than taking a whole level in Mystic. Maybe Jarveena is more of a Force Adept type rather than a full Jedi. It would allow you to keep your current progression moving forward without any hiccups and still get that story going. We can bend the rules a bit if a single class's spell list doesn't quite approximate the psychic powers you would like.