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DMJ

Jun 30, 2017 6:53 pm
Jabes.plays.RPG says:
My turn to play the teacher's pet: J, I think you might have forgotten to roll crit damage for D08 vs. Ivor here.
I guess you are right. It's added in now back at the same post.
Thanks, Honest Jabes. You guys all feel too guilty to try to get over.
Jun 30, 2017 7:50 pm
So if my tracking document is correct, DO11 & 12 trying to make off with Bryn draw OA's from Thorn and Maeriks. But Thorn already spent his Reaction making an OA vs DO15 when it moved away from him earlier in the round. So I think Maeriks still has a Reaction available to take a shot at 11 or 12 if he wants.

As for Ivor, I'm waiting to see whether the triple team on Kray are still withdrawing seeing as he broke free of their grapple. If they're withdrawing then they all provoke OA's from Ivor. In which case DO3 is in for it (3 & 11 are both already injured, but 3 has the net).

DMJ

Jun 30, 2017 8:37 pm
Jabes.plays.RPG says:
So if my tracking document is correct, DO11 & 12 trying to make off with Bryn draw OA's from Thorn and Maeriks. But Thorn already spent his Reaction making an OA vs DO15 when it moved away from him earlier in the round. So I think Maeriks still has a Reaction available to take a shot at 11 or 12 if he wants.

As for Ivor, I'm waiting to see whether the triple team on Kray are still withdrawing seeing as he broke free of their grapple. If they're withdrawing then they all provoke OA's from Ivor. In which case DO3 is in for it (3 & 11 are both already injured, but 3 has the net).
Alright. I can say Maeriks could get Reaction OA, but against DO11, not DO12. DO11 was playing cover retreat for DO12 and Maeriks also had other fish dudes breathing down his neck. But DO11 did expose himself to some risk as he backed away.

On Ivor OAs vs. Kray's grapple-and-retreat team:
I'm looking on my sheet/notes - I don't have DO3 with a net. That was just wrestling Grappled condition. No Restrained.
Ivor can do OA at DO4, who was positionally closest and who helped cover the retreat for DO3 (see longer write up in Ep 1 post). It is an important hit too because it would retroactive nullify an Attack.

yea I know. I kind of screwed up for not waiting for that Grapple Resist.

DMJ

Jun 30, 2017 8:56 pm
Continuing BR2 / BR3: Weekend Casual Pace

Reviewing all that just happened, a few remaining tasks.

1) Possible Reaction OA during BR2 from Maeriks on D011
2) Hearing any debate / checking rules on the grapple and drag scenario with Kray. Confirm if he was moved 20'. I think yes.
3) Same as above, but with focus of seeing who wins if it is a tie 22-22 on breaking Grapple during TR3. Or even if there should not have been a new roll and Kray should have won automatically.
4) If Kray was moved, then DO8 Moved and is vulnerable to Ivor Reaction OA during BR2
5) If DO8 is hit with OA in BR2, then damage against Kray from DO8 is nullified/never occurred

I'm breaking for weekend in general though. Send in anything you have, but no obligation to check the boards if you are busy. We might solve a few of the above if you guys write in, but after that - no further regular progress until Monday.

Have a good weekend if I don't talk to ya.
Jun 30, 2017 9:05 pm
Dammit, Ivor burned his Reaction on a Riposte in TR2! :-P

DMJ

Jun 30, 2017 9:13 pm
Jabes.plays.RPG says:
Dammit, Ivor burned his Reaction on a Riposte in TR2! :-P
That is not the discovery​ optimal for Kray, but it does eliminate any further debate about wrap-up Items 4 & 5 above.

DMJ

Jul 1, 2017 9:40 am
Oxbox says:
On a tie, nothing changes, so if a condition was on a PC it remains.
That looks right, Ox.

I found the same in the PHB, on section about ability score contests. Cutting the quote:
"If the contest results in a tie, the situation remains the same as it was before the contest. Thus, one contestant might win the contest by default. If two characters tie in a contest to snatch a ring off the floor, neither character grabs it. In a contest between a monster trying to open a door and an adventurer trying to keep the door closed, a tie means that the door remains shut."

Also, reread Escaping a Grapple:

"A Grappled creature can use its action to escape. To do so, it must succeed on a Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check contested by your Strength (Athletics) check."

All of that together, I think this is what happened with Kray:

The immediate Resist Grapple attempt in BR2 was lost. Kray was Grappled in BR2, and was dragged away 20' by the Deep Ones (one grappler and the others following and striking after he was moved back).

Kray attempted Break Grapple as Attack action in BR3. Grappler DO3 was required to do an opposing roll to try to maintain the lock. Both rolled 22. That's a tie. On ties, things stay as they are.

Frustrating result: Kray is (barely) still Grappled as Round 3 shifts from Top to Bottom.

DMJ

Jul 1, 2017 10:11 am
Oxbox says:
On a tie, nothing changes, so if a condition was on a PC it remains.
Ox, speaking of you chiming in AND getting dragged away 20' captured by fish guys ... I think Bryn is the last remaining PC who can still take action for TR3.
Good for nothing slacker Hinka botched a rescue attempt shot at your captor. Up to netted Bryn to fend for himself I think, for now at least.

Hey listen, Jabes and I have talked in the past about the "escaping from net" rules, which read:

A creature can use its action to make a DC 10 Strength check, freeing itself or another creature within its reach on a success. Dealing 5 slashing damage to the net (AC 10) also frees the creature without harming it, ending the effect and destroying the net.

We have both thought that escaping from a net may be more of a DEX check than a STR check. I don't really see people brute strength tearing through nets to get out. I also don't see it as some weightlifter challenge of whether or not you have the muscle to simply lift it up nice and clean and throw it off. I picture escaping a net more about being agile and quick and figuring out how to shift, move, weave, and carefully toss the folds of the net aside to get out. Just makes sense.

Because of this, I always make NPCs/Monsters attempt escapes using DEX instead of STR. For PCs, I don't want to officially change those particular book rules to a possible PC detriment. Some PCs (example: Maeriks, Thorn, Ivor) would be negatively impacted on having to use DEX instead of STR - I'm not for that on this matter.

BUT...I do want to add an adjustment for PCs to allow the use of DEX as the net escape option if desired. To me it is a lot like the option of using STR or DEX to escape a wrestle. PC choice.
Jul 1, 2017 10:22 am
I could also try to cut the net open right? PHB says AC 10 hp 5 can Bryn try to cut it?
Jul 1, 2017 5:23 pm
Ezeriah says:
.I've got this feeling that we are going to run into Hive versions of Talius and Qiu; replacements for the Hive we offed on Old Island.
Careful. Saying things like that is just spoon feeding GMs ideas.
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Jul 1, 2017 7:23 pm
I love how Ox says "backstab" like it's 1989! 😁
Jul 1, 2017 8:07 pm
Constablebrew says:
Ezeriah says:
.I've got this feeling that we are going to run into Hive versions of Talius and Qiu; replacements for the Hive we offed on Old Island.
Careful. Saying things like that is just spoon feeding GMs ideas.
Yeah... 90+% sure that's not a new idea for J. Snatching people from battle and dragging them away is a tactic I would identify for slavers and the like. Also, based on Mac Ru and Slevin's account of things, it's pretty clear that Team Glaaki wants to create soldiers out of the enemy's numbers.You know, give us all spinal horn nub implants that control us. Based on other info picked up along the way, I'm guessing necromancy is in the mix (Fingol considered himself a necromancer) .
Jul 1, 2017 8:11 pm
I need to go over the thread again and record damage dealt on my tracking sheet. Right now it only tells you what each baddie is doing, and whether or not it's injured. But knowing just how seriously injured each one is will help us focus fire.

DMJ

Jul 1, 2017 9:03 pm
Dang. TR3 off to a slow start, but then 2 late round delayed, short-blade-inflicted, neck-targeted kill shots!
It's a blood bath. Figuratively or literally - your choice.

I'm thinking that wraps up TR3.
Will let this simmer. Will find time later, prob Monday morning, to build up BR3.

Working Title: Deep Ones Remaining: On the Bubble

DMJ

Jul 2, 2017 12:52 pm
Fellas, because I have the time and access, going to break tradition and start posting up some BR3 Actions.
No obligation to respond, fine to keep the weekend downtime stance.

And for all those who are worried about my religious and spiritual well-being ("Dang. That's sad. I feel bad that J is missing church to play online roleplaying games."), don't sweat it. I already hit 8 oclock Mass across the street. I'm solid.
Jul 2, 2017 12:53 pm
I go to church at 6:00pm, It's much more manageable.

DMJ

Jul 2, 2017 12:55 pm
Bro, we are so righteous. Let's tell everyone.
Jul 2, 2017 12:58 pm
"HAVE I MENTIONED HOW HOLY I AM?"
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