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Apr 23, 2022 4:44 pm
However you like to do it. I usually think of passive (skill check) as if that person isnt looking for a reaction (insight), isnt trying to remember an event (history), isnt trying to look for the hidden creature (perception), isnt trying to sneak up on someone (stealth) but through their natural abilities succeeds/fails without trying. While active rolls you are trying to think of an event (history), look for enemies (perception), look for body language (insight) etc.
Apr 23, 2022 6:06 pm
I assume (especially PC proficient in insight) is naturally doing this:
Tasrek says:
To see if his body language and tone, pitch facial reactions matched the words that he said.
at least in real life that's what I do when speak to a person face-to-face. And I don't count myself as proficient in insight. I know some human resource managers in my company are. They just can't stop looking at body language of every person even on a party.

Anyhow. DnD isn't real life simulation. I want rules that are left for DM discretion to be used the way everyone feels fun. I feel fun that failed insight should be punishing, though DC should be proportional to NPC attitude toward you. For Grandfather Zitembe DC is 5 because he is thankful for PCs to appear in the right moment.
If players don't find it fun - I am cool to change it
Apr 23, 2022 7:49 pm
GreyWord says:
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I'm sorry if I made it look like Grandfather Zitembe quickly became aggressive. He did not become aggressive . He is intrigued. Or at best he don't believe that your source of information is to be trusted. That's the real cause of his behavior and I'm sorry if I am too poor role-player for this to be evident
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Lol its all good its hard to tell tone of voice and body language when we are doing a play by post. You cant quite act out how any mannerisms. I thought i failed the DC since you said that was an example of how you do failing insight checks, Ha'aroo didnt get any feeling of the priest being excited on their intent but instead became suspicious of them and instead of answering if he could help us he started asking who we were, why we are there, what our intent was, who we worked for and then you posted if we try to read someone's body language and fail they will be offended. So thats what I thought what had happened.

And thats why Ha'aroo is thinking that either this priest is wanting the soulmonger to continue or that the groups goals are something Savras is not wanting done at this time. Im interested to seeing how Pecan and the priest reacts and where we go from here.

Its hard to understand intent and body language through text and so we are going to need to rely on you if we feel someone is being honest or if someone sounds like they are trying to hide something.
Apr 24, 2022 6:45 am
Everyone! As I wrote earlier I'm inexperienced at PBP DMing and I believe I've made a mistake there.
I want to remove any negative penalties for failed insight check.

It is probably too late to fix the scene with
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Rolling insight in case I need it to see how Grandfather Zitembe reacts.
So I would provide a fix here in OOC to explain how I will try to fix it in future

1) DC for High priest insight is 15 (because I've decided so). For different NPCs it could be anything in range from 5 to 20 (or even auto pass for a commoner or auto auto fail for professional spy).
2) I should have explained that Grandfather Zitembe reaction shows surprise and partially disbelief/suspicion in what you told him
3) If you would fail a roll I would instead tell that priest seems extremely interested
4) You wouldn't know DC. My answer wouldn't tell you if you passed or failed with your roll. And again you could pass with 1-1 or fail 20+6
Apr 25, 2022 8:32 pm
Just a note on your preparations. There are enough problems for you to solve in this module to worry about things like campfire or food. If you wish you could assume Syndra have you object with Continual Flame cast on it
[ +- ] Continual Flame
You could also assume there are fruits in the jungle eating which will give you enough energy. As I wrote previously you only need to solve water problem either with magic or any other way.

Note howere that I play RAW and create or destroy water spell says "You create up to 10 gallons of clean water within range in an open container" . Meaning you need to have a single container as spell target. You can't target several waterskins
Apr 25, 2022 8:40 pm
Agreed! I had forgotten about the food bit. For water, totally agree. With a water collector, that allows us to capture 8 gallons of water, though if we wanted to acquire a small barrel we COULD theoretically deal with it that way, but that adds extra weight to contend with.
Apr 25, 2022 8:45 pm
Thoughts on a red shirt'ed mule. or Dinosaur.
Apr 25, 2022 8:51 pm
GeneCortess says:
Thoughts on a red shirt'ed mule. or Dinosaur.
lol it took me a few moments to get the red shirt'ed comment lol

GM can we have the continuous flame spell put on Jim's lantern by chance?

Dont know if the rest of the team would like it on there but it would be nice to have it on something that we can mask the light when needed.
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Apr 25, 2022 8:57 pm
I mean, given that it generates no heat, doesn't need oxygen, and can't be smothered. Could put it on a belt buckle and then just throw a cloth over it if we felt like it.
Apr 25, 2022 8:58 pm
Jim can cast "Goodberry" every day for 10 people worth. In fact he has the spell right now in memory. It says provides nourishment to sustain a creature for one day. I take that as food and water for a day which is sweet.
Apr 25, 2022 9:01 pm
Only problem with Continual Flame is the 50gp cost of a red ruby. Which Jim cannot cast.
Apr 25, 2022 9:03 pm
RAW doesn't specify, but Jeremy Crawford indicated that RAI is no it doesn't impact hydration at all (at least that's the decision I've seen most frequently)
Apr 25, 2022 9:04 pm
the gm said that Syndra who brought us will give us one continous flames.
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Apr 25, 2022 9:06 pm
Ack. Good memory you have Tasrek. Jim actually has a large box that he carries on top of his backpack. So, a transporting animal would be nice. Of course it will not eat goodberries. Still Jim will buy some backup oil.

(Jim on his previous explorations has a large box he keeps all his tomb raiding gear in. Bullseye Lantern, Miner’s Pick, Shovel, Crowbar, 10 Pitons, 10 Torches, 50' Hempen Rope & 5 Flasks of Oil.)
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Apr 25, 2022 9:14 pm
when I wrote
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you could assume Syndra have you object with Continual Flame cast on it
I mean to say she gave it to you
you do not need to cast it!

Jeremy write
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The nourishment provided by goodberry is meant to be like food, not water, but a DM can say otherwise
And I do not say otherwise!
Apr 25, 2022 9:37 pm
So, a goodberry (10 berries) and create water (10 gallons) would go a long way. Which would of course totally wipe out Jim's Spell casting ability. A nice collection barrel for the water.
Apr 25, 2022 9:40 pm
I think the plan Gene, is that we don't have to worry about goodberry castings (which is what Pacan has as well). But if we get a barrel and we each cast the create water, we could easily get all the water we want on a daily basis and save some spell slots. :)
Apr 25, 2022 9:44 pm
Well then Between Jim and Pacan we have food & water covered. With Syndra continual flame we have basic light covered. Jim still rather have an animal mount. That and it is good for carrying the barrel as well as Jim's wooden case of goodies. And we have a guide. There is just making sure all have someplace to sleep would be good.
Apr 25, 2022 9:51 pm
IC, Shara mentions the need for food and the characters' plan to get it, but OOC, I know food isn't a worry and I think the plan above is a good one. All we have to worry about is a beast of burden and sleeping arrangements, and paying the guide we pick.
Apr 26, 2022 5:08 am
unless you want yo roleplay around it I vote we assume Syndra gave you 6 cepies of the map. And Shara used her magic ink to copy all guide adverts and share that. I don't want You to restrict yourself from looking into handouts I am providing. Note that handouts are also available in roll20 at a better quality.
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