OOC and Character Creation

Ah--

I have the fix.

Bladed Brush reskinning this feat for Scythe instead of Glaive with pre-requisites of Weapon Focus (Scythe) and must be a worshipper of Hapi.

That will save you the need of using the advanced weapon training feat (or let you use it for another option), and get you to Dex to damage with 4 feats you were going to probably take most of anyways (Weapon Focus, Weapon Finesse, Bladed Brush, then Slashing Grace)-- should clear up your problems.

Also- everyone- the world map link and info about the regions/cities are up in reference thread

Thanks. Do I just ignore the reach part of the ability or will the scythe now have extended range with this feat?

Oh yes- will leave that part off the modified feat since it's not relevant to the Scythe.

Everyone- I've changed my mind on Traits. We'll go with 3 traits, two of any variety and one of which has to be one of the Campaign traits I've added to the reference thread-- these traits will set your position within the organization and career path so to speak.

I've also added some Religion traits- these are available for use with one of your other slots but not required.

For existing regional traits ask which regions they would apply to, and for religion traits those that are appropriate flavor wise can be modified as Hapi traits.

Asked this in reference but realized I should probably ask it here to leave the channel uncluttered: would it be possible to apply one of my traits to my Eidolon instead of myself? Probably not, but Blade of Hapi would be ever-so-convenient.

I might have to just redesign my character, 4 feats seems a bit too steep to get the scythe to be functional. 3rd level would be the earliest the damage would be effective and not till 2nd level will being able to hit with it. While at first level the feats wouldn't do much. Combat maneuvers wouldn't be able to benefit from dex till level 4. Seems like just getting the scythe to be finesse is a pain, 3 feats to do so since bladed brush has two prerequisite feats. Weapon Finesse then Mythic weapon finesse would get the attack and Damage alone, but only for finesse weapons.

Might just end up as a str based human.

I just don’t think pathfinder is super favorable towards dex based melee fighters. I honestly like it that way, though, rather than 5e’s method.

Well it's not that dex based fighters are a problem, it's trying to use a scythe with dex based fighter that has issues. Any weapon that normally is finesse or falls under weapon finesse works just fine.

Oh it is very favourable towards dex based mellee... As long as you aren't trying to use a two handed weapon and sticking to a rapier, Scimitar or similar.

Bladed brush does bring glaive into line with those however.

Though everything they do suffer with is that initial low level damage. It's not as bad as it seems - everyone at that level is swingy. Then you hit level 3, get to forget strength is a stat and you are on your merry way :p.

(I admit my view is slightly tilted with often playing with house rules giving finesse and other feats for free, but even without those dex builds are very viable)

(Also I note Kirin you mention mythic weapon finesse - You want slashing grace/fencibgg grace Mythic weapon finesse can only be taken by mythic characters and that's a whole different ball park :p)

While writing this I had a thought. - there is a paladin archetype that fits dex in mellee that I had built using bladed brush - It gives some bits to you automatically like weapon finesse.

A swashbuckler could also work but than a fighter if you are set on dex as its built around being dex melee. (The paladin archetype is based off it).

Well that's annoying. Why doesn't the site list that as a prerequisite for the feat. Sigh. Yeah it looks like I'm just going to skip the whole dex thing entirely. It's that or not use a scythe.

Which site? Pfsrd does that alot.. If it was nethys I'd expect them to sign post it better shame on them...
But yeah it was probably assumed anyone reading it got to it from the mythic ruleset, not as I assume you did from Google or similar.

Anything that says mythic stay away from. It's effectively the epic ruleset for pathfinder. Very powerful...and very unbalanced :p

If you are using pfsrd anything that says (3pp) in the title is 3rd party, so not official.

Nethys is less of a mine field as its the official website but sometimes harder to navigate...

I can look at trying to help but I'm not going to be able to get it fully functional till 3 either, however you can always fluff it as the character still getting used to the scyth, and having say a back up sickle/fitness weapon till they've got the hang of it.

I have also just rembered spear dancing style is a thing, but that's going to take even longer to get on line. And I am sorely tempted :p

Also how are people feeling not having a cleric/full caster. I can likely whip up a cleric or oracle if need be.

I was looking at variant multiclass cleric but I can't afford the feats with possessed hand aswell.

(Though may be able to pencil mark in healers hands and heal skill unlock for later (if the skill unlocks are allowed)

It was archives of Nethys.

I was actually going to get the trait Sacred Touch since we didn't have a healer.

We see to have a lot of martial power with two pet classes and two frontline fighters, so we could just aim to kill them before they kill us :p

I am happy to take a more support role though. Either cleric or oracle as said, or bard/inquisitor.

Currently looking at psychic to see if I can just manipulate the scythe instead of physically wielding it lol

Thoughts on firearms. I stole this from online.

Firearms in Your Campaign
Firearms and gunslingers are not for every campaign, and even if you are excited about introducing firearms into your campaign, you should still make a decision about how commonplace they are. The following are broad categories of firearm rarity and the rules that govern them. Pathfinder’s campaign setting uses the rules for emerging guns, which is also the default category of gun rarity.

No Guns: If you do not want guns in your campaign, simply don’t allow the rules that follow. The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game plays perfectly well without them.

Very Rare Guns: Early firearms are rare; advanced firearms, the gunslinger class, the Amateur Gunslinger feat, and archetypes that use the firearm rules do not exist in this type of campaign. Firearms are treated more like magic items—things of wonder and mystery—rather than like things that are mass-produced. Few know the strange secrets of firearm creation. Only NPCs can take the Gunsmithing feat.

Emerging Guns: Firearms become more common. They are mass-produced by small guilds, lone gunsmiths, dwarven clans, or maybe even a nation or two—the secret is slipping out, and the occasional rare adventurer uses guns. The baseline gunslinger rules and the prices for ammunition given in this chapter are for this type of campaign. Early firearms are available, but are relatively rare. Adventurers who want to use guns must take the Gunsmithing feat just to make them feasible weapons. Advanced firearms may exist, but only as rare and wondrous items—the stuff of high-level treasure troves.

Commonplace Guns: While still expensive and tricky to wield, early firearms are readily available. Instead of requiring the Exotic Weapon Proficiency feat, all firearms are martial weapons. Early firearms and their ammunition cost 25% of the amounts listed in this book, but advanced firearms and their ammunition are still rare and cost the full price to purchase or craft.

Guns Everywhere: Guns are commonplace. Early firearms are seen as antiques, and advanced firearms are widespread. Firearms are simple weapons, and early firearms, advanced guns, and their ammunition are bought or crafted for 10% of the cost listed in this chapter. The gunslinger loses the gunsmith class feature and instead gains the gun training class feature at 1st level.

Firearms are a thing, see above

I believe it's Emerging Guns that's the specific option we will use. Exotic proficiencies and the expensive listed price.

I've built the dex based builds a myriad of times. The sad fact is that the easiest and best ways to do it always involve dipping into classes to get extra free feats and work around things.

Yeah, I think im just going to drop dex entirely. Going to have to lower a lot of stats. I'll try to submit my character when I get home. It's going to be quite a rework, but I'll keep the kobold race and scythe focus

Edit: I submitted what I had originally for the character. Ability scores, skills, and feats will be reworked.

Was looking at firearms for my hunter but the thoughts that I would need Gunsmithing & Exotic Weapon Proficiency to make this work doesn't appeal.

Don’t mean to be pushy about this or anything, but as Alordis now appears to be online, thoughts on this? I just wanna know before I select my traits, since all of the custom ones look very tempting and push the flavor I was going for already.

@TheHumbug- I'd say no to shifting the benefits of a trait to the Eidelon, they can get pretty crazy as is.

@GeneCortess- I'm checking and I'm really surprised that there isn't a gun using archetype for Hunter, there is for almost every other class; to use them would only require 1 feat, but to make the cost for the ammo cheap enough you would effectively need to spend 2 feats to get there or take a level in Gunslinger or one of the other classes that provide them for free.

@KirinofDarkness- with the modification to bladed brush it's not that difficult to get there- 1st level Weapon Focus and Weapon Finesse, 2nd level Bladed Brush, 3rd level Slashing Grace and you'll be at Dex to damage with the Scythe- yes, it would take all four feats you get in the first 3 levels but it comes online fairly early comparatively; up to you- ditching it in favor of a STR build and wearing heavier armor can get you to the same AC & bonus to damage/attack while freeing up several of those feats if you decide it is too much of an investment.