It's raining in London... again (OOC)

Per the sheet, Benji needs human blood. Jacob is not 'human'. Does his blood work? Slightly, but not as well? How come?

And would we have any on hand, or would we need to go out and get some?

Not Jacob's blood, definitely.

I'll say that Jacob gets it in the black market. There's an underground network of blood selling across hospitals in London (yeah, that precious blood needed for patients goes to vampires instead, some people would do anything for money)

My default pronouns are the neutral singular 'they/them'. If I am not paying attention when I type I will probably use those by mistake when we know someone's pronouns, but when NPCs are first introduced I will probably be using non-gender-specific pronouns until the group decides what pronouns the NPC uses and how they present.

Chaudry, for instance —as introduced to Rhiannon in the RP— is open for you guys to define as you wish and as details become relevant. Follow on from what others have already defined (or contradict if you have to) and add any details you feel appropriate (or inappropriate if that is appropriate:).

If Rhiannon tells any of you about them you are welcome to Put a Face to a Name with Power and see whether you know of them.

Okay, good to know!

@vagueGM would blood bags count as ‘feeding on someone’ for the purposes of the Eternal Hunger move? Obviously the ‘Your prey doesn’t suffer 3-harm’ option becomes a bit irrelevant but that could also just mean I have to select that as one of my choices on a hit (i.e. Benji’s prey does not suffer harm because he is not feeding on them directly). Although I don’t know what a miss would look like in that context…

Ultimately it is up to you how you want your feeding to work. Do what is most fun.

Blood bags could count as 'feeding', but probably not 'on someone'. Stored blood could be mixed and not from just one person. Standard medical ones also contain other chemicals —to stop the blood from coagulating and so forth— so might not be ideal.

As you say, 'they' obviously can not suffer harm, and you probably don't get to learn something from 'them', and a miss makes no sense. That means that you don't roll (the Trigger is not met if all the parts don't fit the fiction).

The purpose of the move is to add drama, eating a 'microwave dinner' is not dramatic, so the drama needs to come from elsewhere. There is a reason your blood-supplier incurs Debts for the task, it is not trivial to get, the drama comes from the challenge of acquiring the blood. If this requires us to rethink who your supplier is (maybe an NPC who you don't ask too many questions of?) then we can revisit that Starting Debt, but maybe Jacob is the one not asking too many questions about the 'willing' people he sends your way?

How much you can get from stored blood would depend on the fiction at the time. Where did it come from? How fresh is it? How desperate are you?

It is also possible that feeding from stored blood merely slakes some of your hunger —takes the edge off— but does not provide the other benefits, both the secrets and the healing seem to stem from the vital intimacy of the Move, no?

If it is easy to just grab a few bags and heal up, that detracts from the fundamental drama of the character and their needs. We may have to put effort into replenishing your store of fresh blood before you can use it.

Presumably if using bagged blood worked just as well as people, everybody (everybody but the degenerates who enjoy hurting others) would just use it, and there would be peace between vamps and humans?

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While the idea of blood bags is cool, maybe your source instead provides access to the donor? Maybe they are willingly giving to vamps for some reward? Or maybe they are tricked into believing they are giving to 'medical research' or something (but still willing, so not triggering Corruption, that seems a bit like sophistry?). It can turn into a complicated network if we are not careful, though.

Think about what you want this to do to the story. Remember that you are a predator, a monster, maybe don't take that away with the easy-out of storing up batteries of cold blood bags.

Good points! I agree that blood bags undercut the drama and stakes rather a lot… The ‘Harbour’ feature specifies that the Vamp’s haven contains "emergency rations" which implies that blood bags or some form of stored blood is viable for feeding, at least for survival purposes (perhaps its unpleasant/not as tasty which is why more vampires don’t opt for that option). Perhaps Benji just relies on Jacob’s black market blood as a backup for when he can’t find any willing live prey?

And I agree with your points about rolling Eternal Hunger not making much sense for blood bags! Benji will just have to find someone to bite if he wants to heal himself :P

Ah, sorry, I posted in the RP thread before reading this. If you finally decide you're not happy with the blood bags approach, then we can rewind and edit my post.

All good! I think the black market blood bags thing works fine for Jacob and Benji’s arrangement (perhaps, as I said, Benji just uses this as a backup option for when he can’t find someone willing to let him bite them), but I do agree with vagueGM’s points about the Eternal Hunger move needing to involve actually feeding on someone so I don’t think Benji will be able to heal himself using the stored blood. Still a nice gesture from Jacob so I don’t think you need to change your post :)

True. Though 'emergency rations' are not generally considered 'food' that people would choose to eat if they had other options. :)

This also might not be for you, you have the option of having 'staff', who are mortal and would need rations in an emergency (you could then them feed on them:), as well as people in your web who you might need to protect in your Haven in an emergency, not all games feature both a Sanctum and an Establishment with better protections than you Haven, so there may be games where you place is where people go in an emergency. But interpret these facts as suits your vision of the character.

Well... aside from assuming the 'blood from the freezer' is microwaved first. :)

Being a Wizard, Mark should have some way of gaining information about Chaudry. But, I don't get which move should I use for this? Should it be Figure someone out or Put a face to the name? Or will it be a city move like Consult your contacts?

In the fiction, yes. You can roleplay how you do that, and your being a wizard will provide many opportunities that others would not have.

You can also just declare that they are part of your Order and tell us what you know about them. You would not roll anything (and we may have to temper some extreme statements back to 'reality'), but that is almost always an option.
Fiction first. Moves only make sense after we have seen what you are doing in the fiction. Show us what you do (talk about it OOC if you need) and only then will we see that a Move applies.
Read the Notes on those Moves, they describe a bit about what you need to have done in the fiction to trigger them, as well as what they actually do.

Figure Someone Out is about learning motivations and worries by scrutinizing their body language, tone of voice, or other telltale clues. You need to be interacting with them to do that (though it could be in a flashback).

Put a Face to a Name is about us learning if you even know anything. It is the least 'fiction first' Move. Note that, when the fiction makes 'failure' improbable, even on a 6- the Move allows for you to still know them, but at a cost.

You can say that you probably know another wizard (you tell us how many there are in the city and if they all hang out together or whatever) and skip the Move, you avoid the risk, but also removes the possibility of learning something more on a 10+ (they are in your Circle, so you odds a good, which supports the fiction) or having them already owe you a Debt for past interactions, so there is a trade-off either way. If you roll and get a 10+ and choose to learn something interesting and useful, you are welcome to suggest what that 'something' is.
City Moves happen in the background, when time passes. They cover what your character was doing 'between episodes' when we did not see them. I did not put them in the Moves handout yet, because they won't come up for a while.

Does that help?

Mark scored a 10+. Does Chaudry owe Mark a Debt (and what for), or does Mark know something 'interesting or useful' about them?

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You rolled a Move that marks Advancement. Tick the checkbox for Power under the 'Adv?' column of the Circles section of your sheet.

I think I am most inclined to keep things together and put the Corruption Advancement track alongside the Circles Advancement in the Circles section of the sheet, as seen on the Test Sheet.

Opinions?

It is a bit cramped on mobile, but that is already the case without it. :(

Sure, works for me. This way we have in the same area of the sheet all the bixes we'll need to be ticking during the game.

Do you any ideas about what this might be? We can also make a note and leave the revelation till later in the story when it becomes relevant and we realise that the thing you know is useful. If you have an idea now we make it part of the story.
Once we decide where it should be, we will add it to all the sheets (while avoiding edit conflicts):.

Corruption is definitely not Harm with its negative connotations, so we will move that one to the 'proper' place once we know where that is.

Could be. If we can make that 'useful'. We can bear that possibility in mind and see if it pans out, else learn something else.

That works