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Oct 11, 2022 4:53 pm
@jollycooperative Medheyg is approved.
Oct 11, 2022 5:33 pm
Plum says:
HeroAmongMen says:

The Nightmare Realm of Nod is sort of an analogue to the Shadowfell
Oh thanks, I did not realize this.
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I’ll send you a link to some lore on both areas, if you are interested.

Let me know which interests you more.
Either would be fine. Is it a link to the SSOP PDF? I have a copy.
More lore on the Throne of Nightmares can be found on pg. 257 of SSOP.

More lore on the Kingdom of the Dead can be found on pg. 251 of SSOP.
Oct 11, 2022 5:43 pm
Plum says:
Okay, submitted my character sheet. It's not 100% complete (gotta do items still) but it's almost there.

Questions for the DM:

1) Many subclasses in Tasha's have expanded spell lists for sorcerers. I'm playing Shadow sorcerer and I really really don't want to sound entitled but I think the expanded spell lists in Tasha's is a tacit acknowledgement that the sorc is lacking on spells known per day.

So I figure it can't hurt to ask, and if you decide no I'll probably still stay the course as far as subclass, but I was googling around and found this: https://www.gmbinder.com/share/-MRY4U1W8dLMwlLGV9ca

The Shadow one seems pretty thematic. May I add those?

For reference the spell table is:

Level 1: cause fear, false Life
Level 3: darkness, invisibility
Level 5: gaseous form, summon shadowspawn
Level 7: shadow of moil, phantasmal killer
Level 9: antilife shell, seeming
Hi @Plum, to answer this question, I will allow these spells in exchange for Strength of the Grave.
Plum says:
2) Do we have any guidance as far as what session 0 will look like? Where we're starting, etc?
For the first group (basically, the first 5 approved characters), the game will start on the western range of the Great Valley, near the Bear clan, but not too close that there is some issues. They will be sort of between Bear Clan's hallow and Fishgather, along the Bear river.

I am still figuring out the second group's location, but I have it narrowed down to 3 locales:
- Along the Ape river, just north of the Hallow of Kho, and south of Swapshore
- East of Bendgather, just north of the Icehook Peaks
- South along the Ox river, just south of Thuzo (near the part of the map that says "Sea Empire")
Oct 11, 2022 6:23 pm
HeroAmongMen says:
More lore on the Throne of Nightmares can be found on pg. 257 of SSOP.

More lore on the Kingdom of the Dead can be found on pg. 251 of SSOP.
Thanks. It's a huge and beautiful PDF but I have not been able to dive into it as much as I would like.
Oct 11, 2022 6:36 pm
@heroamongmen

Here is the gothic heroes UA publication which contains the revenant as a player character rules.

I will double check my stats again I think I got them right though.

The rest of the stuff on the sheet is being updated, slowly, as I am on mobile.
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Oct 11, 2022 7:04 pm
@HeroAmongMen I consider Lilla's character sheet to be complete. Please let me know if you have any feedback.
HeroAmongMen says:

Hi @Plum, to answer this question, I will allow these spells in exchange for Strength of the Grave.
I waffled back and forth but in the end I opted against the extra spells, but thank you!
Oct 11, 2022 9:25 pm
I think that the Relentless Nature feature is a little overpowered.

I would allow you to take it as below:
[ +- ] Updates to Relentless Nature
Jomsviking says:
I will double check my stats again I think I got them right though.

The rest of the stuff on the sheet is being updated, slowly, as I am on mobile.
Even with the most flexible of the three systems for ability scores I am allowing (27 point-buy), there would not be a way where you could get 3 different ability scores at a 15 and then a 14 in a fourth ability (which you have in wisdom). Check the math again. If you wanted to boost Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution by 1 (per your chosen custom race), you would need to have an 8 in Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma.
Oct 11, 2022 9:43 pm
Plum says:
@HeroAmongMen I consider Lilla's character sheet to be complete. Please let me know if you have any feedback.
HeroAmongMen says:

Hi @Plum, to answer this question, I will allow these spells in exchange for Strength of the Grave.
I waffled back and forth but in the end I opted against the extra spells, but thank you!
Lilla's approved.
Oct 11, 2022 9:59 pm
HeroAmongMen says:
I think that the Relentless Nature feature is a little overpowered.

I would allow you to take it as below:
[ +- ] Updates to Relentless Nature
Jomsviking says:
I will double check my stats again I think I got them right though.

The rest of the stuff on the sheet is being updated, slowly, as I am on mobile.
Even with the most flexible of the three systems for ability scores I am allowing (27 point-buy), there would not be a way where you could get 3 different ability scores at a 15 and then a 14 in a fourth ability (which you have in wisdom). Check the math again. If you wanted to boost Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution by 1 (per your chosen custom race), you would need to have an 8 in Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma.
Looks good to me. I plan on cheating death and will make that clear from the outset. Wotan, as the budding God of mankind is here to kill the gods for betraying mankind from the beginning. This may seem paradoxical, but Wotan is utterly insane. Fixing sheet now
Oct 11, 2022 10:09 pm
Alright, so for right now, I have the following sheets completed and accepted:
- @GeneCortess' Bracus (Green Primal Dragonborn Druid)
- @MrFaberJack' Stekko aka "Gravelsnake" (Fireblood Primal Dwarf Chanter)
- @Plum' Lilla'martu (Variant Human Sorcerer)
- @jollycooperative' Medheyg (Cliffwalking Shifter Ascetic)

These first 4 people will be part of the first adventuring party, taking place near a bend in the Bear River, with the Two-Axe clan. There is one vacancy to be filled in that first adventuring party.

We have some character sheets submitted for:
- @Jomsviking (A human revenant Barbarian named Wotan)
The following character sheet updates are needed:
* correcting of ability scores
* adjustment of revenant features
- @tibbius (An eladrin fighter named Seyala)
The following character sheet updates are needed:
* removal of "Ray of Frost" from spells list
- @Khulod (An acidic half-ooze druid named Breathe)
The following character sheet updates are needed:
* a final confirmation that you are okay with your ability scores (my custom array would help you more than what you are using with your standard array choices)

First person to make those changes and confirm them in a post indicating so on this thread will get the open spot in the first adventuring party.
Oct 11, 2022 10:32 pm
HeroAmongMen says:
Plum says:
@HeroAmongMen I consider Lilla's character sheet to be complete. Please let me know if you have any feedback.
HeroAmongMen says:

Hi @Plum, to answer this question, I will allow these spells in exchange for Strength of the Grave.
I waffled back and forth but in the end I opted against the extra spells, but thank you!
Lilla's approved.
Thank you.
Oct 11, 2022 10:36 pm
I've edited the sheet accordingly.
Oct 12, 2022 4:09 am
HeroAmongMen says:
That being said, the adventure for the first group will have the people being brought together by a chieftain, who has sent emissaries to other nearby clans to aid in a matter of safety.

[...]

Skarna, desperate to avenge her son and protect her clan, has sent messengers to bring any remaining hunters in the area to aid her people to track down and slay the Night Thing (a monster that has attacked the Two-Axe clan for the last week) in its lair while it’s weak.


[...]

Characters from other clans: Why have you left your clan to help Two-Axe? Are your clans allies? Do you feel personal loyalty or obligation?

[...]

Now is also the time to work with the players to decide which PCs know each other, if any.
Circling back to these excerpts, now that I know Lilla will be in the first starting group I'd like to anchor her in the world a little bit more firmly. Per her backstory she's already out hunting a traitor, and her clan is from the western Great Valley so it would make sense that she'd at least know of and have passing contact with Two-Axe clanspeople. Can we expand on that at all?

@GeneCortess, @MrFaberJack, @jollycooperative, @Jomsviking anyone interested in intertwining our backstories a little?
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Oct 12, 2022 4:52 am
Jomsviking says:
I've edited the sheet accordingly.
Alright, you’re in group 1.

The rest of you will be part of adventuring group 2.
Oct 12, 2022 4:55 am
HeroAmongMen says:
Jomsviking says:
I've edited the sheet accordingly.
Alright, you’re in group 1.

The rest of you will be part of adventuring group 2.
@Jomsviking You’re in group 1, but I just remembered another thing I need you to fix the Magic Initiate choices. According to the feat, you get access to 2 Cantrips and 1 1st-lvl spell that you can cast once/long rest.
Oct 12, 2022 5:56 am
Plum says:

Circling back to these excerpts, now that I know Lilla will be in the first starting group I'd like to anchor her in the world a little bit more firmly. Per her backstory she's already out hunting a traitor, and her clan is from the western Great Valley so it would make sense that she'd at least know of and have passing contact with Two-Axe clanspeople. Can we expand on that at all?

@GeneCortess, @MrFaberJack, @jollycooperative, @Jomsviking anyone interested in intertwining our backstories a little?
Sure, since this is one of Lilla's values:

- Beauty: Dance, song, and art are how we pass down our traditions and knowledge, it is how we prepare our children for the world.

and since Stekko is fairly used to travel into the western area, there could have been some artistic meetings. Stekko could still be telling her story to the children of the Two-Axe clan, so that her name could be somewhate recognised.
Oct 12, 2022 6:01 am
MrFaberJack says:


Sure, since this is one of Lilla's values:

- Beauty: Dance, song, and art are how we pass down our traditions and knowledge, it is how we prepare our children for the world.

and since Stekko is fairly used to travel into the western area, there could have been some artistic meetings. Stekko could still be telling her story to the children of the Two-Axe clan, so that her name could be somewhate recognised.
Sounds fun. Perhaps Lilla and Stekko have crossed paths more than once, since it would be common for her to be out and about hunting, and he seems like quite the wanderer in his own way? It could be a relationship of mutual respect, maybe from a safe distance.
Oct 12, 2022 7:18 am
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Sounds fun. Perhaps Lilla and Stekko have crossed paths more than once, since it would be common for her to be out and about hunting, and he seems like quite the wanderer in his own way? It could be a relationship of mutual respect, maybe from a safe distance.
Yeah, that's fine. Stekko is a partial wanderer. Meaning that he travels quite a bit but at the end always come back to the clan. Not much different than Gandalf with the Shire.
Oct 12, 2022 9:01 pm
HeroAmongMen says:
@Khulod, the half-ooze druid is almost complete. I noticed that you used Standard array or point buy, but my custom array would give you a +2 bump in STR, and still allow for the other ability scores to remain the same. You can choose whichever you prefer, but having the extra strength means your guy can carry a little more.
Ooh, neat! Added the +2 strength.
HeroAmongMen says:
Also, I noticed that you didn't make a choice related to your "Echoes of the Dam" racial feature. Go ahead and make that choice. I am good with the other elements of your character sheet.
I did, I put it under Ooze Sire and listed the abilities under it, but it seems you noticed since that post I quoted. Breathe will be nibbling on everything to help with that terrible hunger. ^^
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