Heist the Colours (OOC)

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Mar 7, 2023 4:08 am
Pedrop says:
Very interesting! Where are the rules for this? As I couldn't find them in the core book...
They are just the normal rules for conflict resolution. The default if you are getting hurt is to use END as your first HP pool, but a toxin might make you clumsy or weak, reducing your DEX or STR first, and if things are not physical then an appropriate Mental Characteristic is used. Page 83 talks about Healing Mental Characteristics, but I don't recall if the current book goes into much detail about hurting them.

Skills like Carouse, Deception, Diplomat (just to list a few together on one page) are all rolls that could be used in Social Encounters.

I treat them as any other Encounter (in most games) and at least Traveller has established rules for 'damage counters'. In other games we have to start a Clock to simulate HP in non-physical challenges. We may still need to use Clocks if we can't easily settle on how much 'damage' to do to your Social Standing as a result of your faux pas, only weapons are listed and armoured against.
Mar 7, 2023 4:21 am
She is trying to loom like a common person that you might see on the street anywhere. She's wearing a nice blouse over jeans and low-cut boots.
Mar 7, 2023 4:28 am
WhtKnt says:
She is trying to loom like a common person ...
Sure, but would any of your 'noble allure' shine through and awe the common tugs? If so you could maybe roll with SOC, if not then SOC would not come into it.

They need never realise you are actually a Noble... unless things go wrong. If you completely remove that element from the encounter then that will not be a risk at all and no stories of this will float around later.

It all depends on how important being incognito is to you (the player). If this is just Cat's plan, then we could roll (Deception maybe?) to see how well the disguise works.
Mar 7, 2023 4:32 am
WhtKnt says:
(OOC in RP)... I never put Cat's skill acquisitions from team building on her sheet. I know that Recon was one of them ...
No worries. Let us know what the other one was when you find it or decide.
Mar 7, 2023 6:40 am
vagueGM says:
Pedrop says:
(ooc in RP)... the shops have entrances from the inside of the parking ...
It is a parking lot facing the backs of shops, so there might be loading bays or back entrances, but going into one of them might draw attention from the proprietors.

We can say the back door was open, possibly expecting a delivery, or possibly to keep things cool (with story).

Holding open a back door to a shop would provide an unexpected escape route for your party, though, so it may be worth it. You can deal with the proprietor.
Pedrop says:
(OOC in RP) ... Should I also do the streetwise one to indeed check if he not brought any attention? ...
Let's wait and see how things go with the others. This roll might needed to deal with the music shopkeeper if their shop becomes part of the scene.
So my proposition is to change Raf route as this:
https://i.imgur.com/bOplWIf.png
So let's assume: Raf walked through the parking lot, acting as being mainly/only interested in the shop back entrances. In order to choose which shop will be the best to go at its back into the parking lot - in case of emergency. Then around the buildings and into the said shop.

No wonder that his recon roll went not-so-good as he was more focus indeed which shop it will be the best to enter.

Can we do it this way?
Mar 7, 2023 6:53 am
Pedrop says:
... Raf walked through the parking lot, acting as being mainly/only interested in the shop back entrances. In order to choose which shop will be the best ... Then around the buildings and into the said shop ...
We can say you did that, but it now sounds like you are trying to find the back of a shop that you can come into from the front... but you missed on your Recon, so that might end up with you misjudging which shop to use and ending in one that does not have (easy) access out the back (door propped open with a brick, but ends up with 'invisible' security gate inside, maybe?).

If you just nipped into an open back door, then the 'fail' on the Recon would probably mean you thought it was safe to enter but the owner needs to be dealt with.

It was only a 'fail by 1', so you did not miss anything very important, and it will not be all that hard to fix whatever problem you face (Persuade the proprietor, or jimmy the door in the examples above).
Mar 7, 2023 7:33 am
vagueGM says:


We can say you did that, but it now sounds like you are trying to find the back of a shop that you can come into from the front...

That's true. But...

My recon roll was with intention to collect info about the potential situation with the dealer. Didn't thought that finding the right shop with a backdoor will be so hard:) But I'm OK with your interpretation. Please choose the option that feels best for you.
Mar 7, 2023 7:39 am
Pedrop says:
My recon roll was with intention to collect info about the potential situation with the dealer. ...
Fair enough, it sounded like 'in order to choose which shop' meant that was your intent, but obviously that was part of the '... acting as being ..' from the previous sentence.

The players intent with a roll needs to be honoured, we can bring you round the block and into the building and then see how things go with the others and deal with any complication inside only if they become relevant.
Mar 7, 2023 8:11 pm
I don't think that Cat wants to advertise her nobility, even to the slightest degree. I think I'll just roll Deception.
Mar 7, 2023 10:48 pm
With Cat already rolling the recon, can I do a streetwise roll instead? Ronny would be using prior knowledge of shady deals more than anything, I think. He grew up on the streets. Maybe not these ones, but something similar.

This roll wouldn't give me an idea of what's going on right now, but a more tactical approach. Like 'If things go bad, where is a good exit?' and "Which side of this parking lot gives us the best position for this deal to go down?"
Mar 8, 2023 4:59 am
WhtKnt says:
I don't think that Cat wants to advertise her nobility, even to the slightest degree.
OK. Noted.
WhtKnt says:
I think I'll just roll Deception.
With a 10, your disguise is pretty good. Unless you actively behave in a noble way no one should suspect you unless they already know something.
Mar 8, 2023 5:00 am
TheGenerator says:
... can I do a streetwise roll instead? ... using prior knowledge of shady deals ... wouldn't give me an idea of what's going on right now, but a more tactical approach. Like 'If things go bad, where is a good exit?' ...
That would be an appropriate use of Streetwise, but we can assume you are being alert and scanning the area the whole time, and make that roll only if we need it. The moment things go wrong, even before rolling initiative, you can make this roll and we can maybe apply it as something like Tactics to give you the edge.

Maybe roll Recon now as you approach the car? And Streetwise later?
TheGenerator says:
... "Which side of this parking lot gives us the best position for this deal to go down?"
You can assume they have set up their position already, and can assume it is in what they think is the best position... for them.
Mar 8, 2023 3:16 pm
@Airshark: Do you want Lio to have found something by the bins? It will only add threats to a place that was 'safe' before. But we can work it into an advantage later.

On an 8 (a 'success') the information that 'you don't spot any danger' is valuable information (Bob will be reassured).
Mar 8, 2023 3:21 pm
Airshark says:

A gust of wind blows him in the face as he rounds the corner, Lio puts up his collar. There is the sign he is looking for...

https://i.imgur.com/c9vuWGH.jpg
I love this logo!

Fun(ny) fact:
Probably thanks to autocorrect I have written: 'Carl's Broker Record' . Broker? That wasn't my intention. I meant to write 'Broken', but it is interesting coincidence... considering circumstances:) And I don't know if it is intentional by Airshark but his logo could be read in the same way...

I love how this game gets more meta with each post.... :D
Mar 8, 2023 3:27 pm
I do have vague plans for Carl, the holder of the 'record for best Broker', just in case you need anything.
Mar 8, 2023 3:31 pm
vagueGM says:
I do have vague plans for Carl, the holder of the 'record for best Broker', just in case you need anything.
You mean like some exotic equipment?
Mar 8, 2023 3:32 pm
Pedrop says:
You mean like some exotic equipment?
No. Merely some exotic dialogue.
Mar 8, 2023 3:53 pm
vagueGM says:
Pedrop says:
You mean like some exotic equipment?
No. Merely some exotic dialogue.
Cool:) But to be clear, in case you would wait for some kind of my reaction after getting into the shop: I assumed I should be waiting for eventual description of the shop - in case we will be wanting to do there something(I don't have any wishes considering that). So sitting silent until then:)

From cinematic point of view... and considering that this shop and the broken/broker guy come to our story by soooo random coincidence... I think it will be amazingly cool if after some thematic and "exotic" dialogue/event with Carl - at this very shop of his - our PCs would meet him again in the future in some other place and other time... being in completely different role... which that would explain what he was really doing on this planet and shop - at current time... :)
Mar 8, 2023 3:59 pm
vagueGM says:
@Airshark: Do you want Lio to have found something by the bins? It will only add threats to a place that was 'safe' before. But we can work it into an advantage later.

On an 8 (a 'success') the information that 'you don't spot any danger' is valuable information (Bob will be reassured).
No. That was just some filling.
Mar 8, 2023 4:13 pm
Pedrop says:
... in case you would wait for some kind of my reaction ...
Not a problem. Was mainly waiting to see if Lio was joining you, then waiting to see if we first need to deal with the cat by the bins. :)
Airshark says:
No. That was just some filling.
Ew... But some say cats are quite filling.
Pedrop says:
... meet him again in the future ...
That is usually the plan. If people like an NPC they tend to come back. :)
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