[OOC] Character Creation

Jun 27, 2020 6:21 am
Let's talk about your characters here. If you need help during the character creation, do ask.
Jun 27, 2020 7:42 am
Was thinking a mystic adept currently.

As a heads up I have Herolab for 5e so can plug in numbers to double check if anyone wants.
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Jun 27, 2020 9:58 am
Karma: Each player receives 50 Karma to customize characters.
*Maximum is still 70 Karma. 50 Karma is high, yes.

Resources: Follow the Prime Runners priority table...
• Priority A: 500,000 nuyen
• Priority B: 325,000 nuyen
• Priority C: 210,000 nuyen
• Priority D: 150,000 nuyen
• Priority E: 100,000 nuyen

Gear Restrictions: Device Ratings must be rated at 6 or less. Maximum Availability is 15 or less.

Nuyen Restrictions: Characters may convert up to 25 Karma into nuyen (50,000 nuyen).

Karma Restrictions: Instead of the normal Charisma x 3 Karma for contacts, increase this amount to Charisma x 6 Karma for contacts.

Background: (some questions you need to answer in the character background)
Why are you in Manila?
What jobs do you usually take as a shadowrunner?
(I might ask more)
Jun 27, 2020 10:29 am
RE: Languages

Common Language is English, Japanese, Mandarin, Spanish and Racial Commons (Or'Zet and Sperethiel)
--- the country is invaded by foreigners. Colonial mentality affected what language becomes common in the country.

Filipino
--- Minor language by the natives. (This includes all 170 Filipino languages excluding Swardspeak.)

Swardspeak
--- Minor language used by the LGBTQ in the Philippines.
Comment: Yes, this one is real and I understand only a few words from it. I consider it a language of its own.
Jun 28, 2020 12:08 am
Since there are more than four players, I think I should go for a Team A and Team B set-up.
Easier to manage than six players in one thread hehe.
Jun 28, 2020 1:08 am
So its gonna be 3 characters in A and 3 characters in B then ??
Jun 28, 2020 2:02 am
DeJoker says:
So its gonna be 3 characters in A and 3 characters in B then ??
I'll probably make 3 factions, and the players can decide where they want to start (Max 3/faction)
So if two more joins the game (8 players), the teams would be 3,3,2. They run separately but their actions may influence another team.

PVP might even happen if they meet (but it is too soon to think about that and I'd have to ask the players if they're fine with it.)

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The Factions (draft)

1. Jasper's Syndicate
- Runners in Jasper's group often deal with the supply and demand of illegal substances in the market. If mom and dad wanna test how the kids love the drugs they make, Jasper helps on testing it out in the market. If there is a feud between drug lords, Jasper mediates. Jasper's the kid who controls the drug trade from the backgrounds. His worse enemy: cops. With the never ending war against drugs going on, police are using extreme measures to subdue and hunt drug users down.

2. Maya's Ring
- Maya works with weapons manufacturers and the elite.

3. Church of Maximilian
- Max works with insurgents and some say he works with the Catholic church.
Jun 29, 2020 2:15 pm
Hm, I'll go street samurai I think.
Jun 29, 2020 3:00 pm
Take your time. Feel free to make extra characters as well if you guys want. I did set the max char per player to three.
If you have questions or suggestions, you can post them here. I've got time to entertain em.
Jun 29, 2020 3:48 pm
So is this going to be more city style or urban warfare or an even mix?

I am leaning towards group 2 or 3 but need to look up the latter a bit so I have a better perspective on what the entails versus the concept I am toying with
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Jun 29, 2020 3:55 pm
For original char concept, the mystic adept, leaning towards 2. She can also backup face/be built towards face, if needed.
Jun 29, 2020 10:14 pm
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Jun 30, 2020 9:45 am
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@LightOfMidnight
Mystic Face would be interesting but it would boost up your resume to invest in skills related to guns if you wanna join group 2. Not required but I'd say it would 'really help' hehe. We can discuss contacts later.

@DeJoker
It's gonna be a mix, and some missions may take you outside of Metro Manila so survival skills may still come handy. Switching groups may also be possible later.
Jun 30, 2020 9:59 am
Downloaded Shadowrun 5e....:) I have never played it. Are we all Humans?
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Jun 30, 2020 11:06 am
GeneCortess says:
Downloaded Shadowrun 5e....:) I have never played it. Are we all Humans?
I'll allow any metahuman. I'll even allow Metasapients and metavariants.
Jun 30, 2020 3:09 pm
Not sure what a metahman, meatsapients or metavarients are.. LOL.. I see Human, Elf, Dwarf, Ork, and Troll. That is the part I'm asking about if we are playing Human only?
Jun 30, 2020 3:24 pm
Elf, Dwarf, Ork and Trolls are meta humans. In universe when magic returned some people changed into other forms - the meta humans. The book should have a chapter on the history if I recall.
Jun 30, 2020 3:31 pm
@GeneCortess

Oops, sorry.
Well, basically that's what you call races in the sixth world cause they are kinda derived from humans. If you have SR5e:Run Faster, there are other called metavariants. Something like gnomes, which are derived from dwarves, or cyclops derived from trolls. Then there are metasapients, who can think like humans but are not humans nor are derived from humans. These are snake like beings called Nagas, or magical beings called pixies. Then you can even create something like a 'race' of your own creation by combining some traits.

Sixth world is the world where the game takes place. For more info, read Section 1 of the core rulebook. No rush in creating the characters. Take your time.

Oh, and getting a copy of Run Faster is not required.
Jun 30, 2020 3:36 pm
LightOfMidnight says:
Elf, Dwarf, Ork and Trolls are meta humans. In universe when magic returned some people changed into other forms - the meta humans. The book should have a chapter on the history if I recall.
This one is on Page 20 I think. Something about goblinization.
Jun 30, 2020 3:45 pm
Okay thanks for the clarification
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Jun 30, 2020 6:21 pm
So...confession: when I saw 5e I assumed it was D&D. :( I'm still interested but I know nothing about this system. *shrug* If you don't want to guide me through it, that's fine. I won't be offended if you guys don't want me to drag you down. Maybe just point me at somewhere to get started? :)
Jun 30, 2020 6:25 pm
Okay I hope the GM does not mind but I opened a new thread Character Creation Walk Through where we can (Mr.Armitage and I as well as anyone else that wants to jump in -- especially the GM) go through the process of character building.

See you there Mr.Armitage
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Jun 30, 2020 8:23 pm
Sounds great. I have mostly finished my mystic, but can run through it with a possible back-up/second char Street Sam to help give another example.

Also reiterating I have a dndbeyond esque program, called Herolab, that I can plug in people's numbers to help check them. (And also generate a char sheet)

Edit: In regards to group 2, I'm in support of powerbolt counting as a gun :P. In seriousness she has some in pistols for when she doesn't feel like taking drain. Would you suggest more/bigger gun. She could also half fit group 3. She;s just in it for the thrill, but as long as she gets a payout doesn't care who she supports.
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Jul 1, 2020 12:59 am
Worked on my character. Take a look and advise me some GM...
Jul 1, 2020 4:17 am
DeJoker says:
Okay I hope the GM does not mind but I opened a new thread Character Creation Walk Through where we can (Mr.Armitage and I as well as anyone else that wants to jump in -- especially the GM) go through the process of character building.

See you there Mr.Armitage
No worries and this initiative is appreciated. Thanks for guiding the others. I'll help out too.
GeneCortess says:
Worked on my character. Take a look and advise me some GM...
I'm ok with most of it. Here's my concern:

"Cyberware and bioware augmentations are not for everyone. The physiologies for magic users and technomancers respond poorly to the loss of Essence that accompanies these augmentations. In game terms, this means that any fraction of Essence loss reduces a Magic or Resonance attribute rating by 1. This means that if a magician with Magic 5 decides to buy and install some
cybereyes (Rating 4), their Essence will go from 6 to 5.5 due to the Essence cost of the cybereyes, and the magician will also lose a full point of Magic, leaving them with a Magic attribute rating of 4. The character can then lose another half a point of Essence, taking him down to 5.0, without a penalty to Magic, but if he drops below 5.0, his Magic rating is going to lose another point.

This is why so few magic users or technomancers make use of either cyberware or bioware. Those who docan find their talents burned out if too many augmentations reduce their Magic or Resonance rating to 0."


This is on Page 95 of Core Rule Book.

"Anything that reduces your Essence also reduces your Magic rating. For every point (or fraction thereof) of Essence lost, both your current Magic Attribute and your maximum Magic Rating are reduced by one. If yourMagic is reduced to zero, you can no longer use any skill requiring the Magic attribute, even if your maximum Rating is still greater than zero (but you can still raise the
attribute with Karma and then get back to the spellslinging). If your maximum rating falls to zero, you’ve burned out, losing all magical abilities, including astral perception and projection. You are mundane forever. Burnedout magicians retain all magical skills and knowledge, but they lack the ability to use them. All Magical active skills except for Arcana become Knowledge skills."

This one is on page 295 of Core rule book.

With all the augmentations, your essence is reduced by 4 so it is now 2. This will affect your ability to cast magic so I ask if you are certain if you still want to use magic or not.

Also, do answer the two background questions for your character as well:
- Why are you in Manila?
- What jobs do you usually take as a shadowrunner?
Jul 1, 2020 5:27 am
I did some more work on Carter. Reduced his Cyberware and bioware augmentations to balance with his Adept. I gave you some background on him as well. I have the character applied and with a picture.

Also, do answer the two background questions for your character as well:
- Why are you in Manila?
- What jobs do you usually take as a shadowrunner?

He was raised in Philippines. He takes jobs as a merc.
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Jul 1, 2020 5:56 am
GeneCortess says:
I did some more work on Carter. Reduced his Cyberware and bioware augmentations to balance with his Adept. I gave you some background on him as well. I have the character applied and with a picture.

Also, do answer the two background questions for your character as well:
- Why are you in Manila?
- What jobs do you usually take as a shadowrunner?

He was raised in Philippines. He takes jobs as a merc.
Ok. Some other things...
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Jul 1, 2020 9:01 am
I had a 6 stat for AGI and had Muscle Toner for 4 rating... So I can not use muscle toner to increase it?

Muscle toner (Rating 1?4) Rating x 0.2 (Rating x 5)R Rating x 32,000
Muscle toner: This treatment increases muscle fiber elasticity in existing muscle tension, resulting in increased muscle tension and flexibility while providing a smooth and ropy physique. Muscle toner adds its rating to your Agility. This bioware is incompatible with augmentations that increase Agility, including the muscle replacements cyberware.

Cyberware is technology implanted into a metahuman body, either to enhance the performance of existing organs, muscles, and systems, or to replace a part of the metahuman body completely with an artificial form that exceeds normal human limitations.
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Jul 1, 2020 2:45 pm
kenesperanza any feedback on my last post about my potential character concept
Jul 1, 2020 2:49 pm
Hey GeneCortess instead of cybering your Adept why not augment them with adeptiness. The key about Adepts is they can out do just about anything you can do with cyberware. ??

I mean unless they were cyberized unwilling as part of your background story I do not think I would every put cyberware into an Adept if you wanted more versatility then you can make them a Mystic-Adept and simply focus on the Adept side of the character which will leave you room to grow into the magic side of them later on
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Jul 1, 2020 4:06 pm
@DeJoker

Late reply, am still studying it sorry. Like I’m thinking of making improved hearing that’s higher than usual to be something like an active ability. You must focus to hear clearer, shutting down other senses to hear better. I’m thinking it would really be damaging to the character if this is a passive thing, lots of noise may impair hearing I guess. I’ll look into it more once I get home.
Jul 1, 2020 4:28 pm
Yes it would and I planned to take a Negative Quality to reflect that or I could pull out the current negative quality and use this other one instead
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Jul 1, 2020 4:56 pm
What does this mean? Magic 4, one Rating 2 Active skill

I figured out that Magic 4 means Stat's Magic/Resonance. Of course adjusted down like Essence from Bio/Cyber gear.
I was assuming that the adjusted magic/resonance number is my buying power number as well. I don't know actually what "one Rating 2 Active skill" means?

I have 3 powers and their total power points equals my adjusted Magic/Resonance stat. They are at rating 4, rating 2, and last one is its setting. (it has no level on it and is not adjustable.) I don't think any of the powers are active skills?
Jul 1, 2020 5:20 pm
Skills are like the skills in DND, but split into active and knowledge. You will have a number of points to put in them, based on your priority level. Basically it's giving you a free skill starting at 2, before you start applying those points.
Jul 1, 2020 5:22 pm
Okay I see that.. it isn't dealing with my magic and why it was confusing me. Yes that makes perfect sense. Gotta love more skill points..!...:)
Jul 1, 2020 5:44 pm
GeneCortess keep in mind if you lower your Essence (aka your maximum Magic equals this number rounded down) that effects your Magic rating and thus the starting allowable Adept Power Points you have available as well as other things.

In SR5 there are three effects of low essence:
.... 1) Social Limit is reduced (very minor)
.... 2) Harder to Recovery from Injury
.... 3) Reduced Resonance and Magic
[ +- ] Social Limit
[ +- ] Harder to Recovery from Injury
[ +- ] Reduced Resonance and Magic
Also keep in mind that the only way to gain Adept powers later on is to Initiate so your maximum Adept power total is equal to your starting Magic Attribute minus any reductions due to cyber- or bio- ware --- also again can I ask what you are doing with cyberware/bioware as I am not aware of anything you can do with it that you cannot do with Adept powers???
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Jul 1, 2020 7:43 pm
I have 18 Contact points... is that split among Loyalty & Connection? Is there a base 1 or are they all base 0?
Jul 1, 2020 7:55 pm
All Base 0 (as it means you do not have it) and yes you split your points between Loyalty and Connection
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Jul 1, 2020 11:56 pm
kenesperanza says:

The Factions (draft)

1. Jasper's Syndicate
- Runners in Jasper's group often deal with the supply and demand of illegal substances in the market. If mom and dad wanna test how the kids love the drugs they make, Jasper helps on testing it out in the market. If there is a feud between drug lords, Jasper mediates. Jasper's the kid who controls the drug trade from the backgrounds. His worse enemy: cops. With the never ending war against drugs going on, police are using extreme measures to subdue and hunt drug users down.

3. Church of Maximilian
- Max works with insurgents and some say he works with the Catholic church.
I am interested in a character that was born and raised in Manila and Shadowruns to earn money to support extended family. The Face and Street Samurai concepts are most appealing (possibly with an Eskrima fighting style). I am interested in a trans character who also speaks swardspeak.

Do you have any thoughts about how these ideas might fit into the factions you mentioned? I can see how a street samurai would function in either of the above factions as an enforcer (Jasper) or insurgent (Church) but would either faction have a strong/consistent need for a Face? Does either faction need characters more than the others? Can I split the difference and make a tough Face or a smooth Samurai?

Unless the world has changed completely by 2075, I assume family remains central to Filipino culture. How did Filipino family dynamics adapt to UGE and Goblinization? Did family ties prove stronger than metahuman variation with elves loving orcs and trolls (at least within the family clan) or did families split along meta-lines? If the game is in 2075 there will have been a generation or two born since magic returned - how diverse is a gathering of the cousins? I am considering a metahuman character and I would like to understand how that would affect family relationships.
Jul 2, 2020 3:15 am
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@ed...

I'm cool with this concept. If you're supporting your family there's no 'safest' way to do it among the three factions. Surely, it will put your family under danger and you, compromised. So if you want, the story could be like your family thinks you're dead. As long as runners can do the job, the three factions doesn't mind what kind of runner you are but certain biases are there. Like the second faction would trust runners who know guns better than those who don't.

Yep, Family remains central despite the Colonial mentality, foreign influences, and goblinization. This also strengthened the 'Ubusan ng Lahi' culture which is along the lines of 'exterminating the family line'. Powerful, vengeful, families will enact revenge not just to one person but to entire clans. So yea, I suggest that if your character cares for family, they must get another identity.

Clan gatherings still happen. It is not uncommon for metahumans to be in these gatherings however it would still be awkward to be a troll, ork, or dwarf in these occasions. Jokes and gossips about metahumans are common in these gatherings. Laugh it off else you become the bad guy kind of thing.
Jul 2, 2020 6:31 am
Can I get clarification of what teams people are eyeing, and rough concept to avoid clashing. As trying to decide between a few. The current one is a mystic adept looking at Maya's ring, though have spied a few adepts/mystic adepts being mentioned.
Jul 2, 2020 7:36 am
Okay. I went back and worked the numbers.. So much fun. I know you enjoyed it. Gotta love fractions.

Standard: x 1.0 Essence, +0 Availibitiy, x1 cost
Alphaware: x 0.8 Essence, +2 Availibitiy,x1.2 cost
Betaware: x 0.7 Essence, +4 Availibitiy, x1.5 cost
Deltaware: x 0.5 Essence, +8 Availibitiy, x2.5 cost
Used: x 1.25 Essence, –4 Availibitiy, x0.75 cost

0.15 015.00 Cybereyes (Deltaware) 0.15 Essence (0.30), 14 Availability, 15ky
0.20 017.50 Image Link (Deltaware) 0.05 Essence (0.10), 12 Availability, 2.5ky
0.34 023.50 Smart Link (Betaware) 0.14 Essence (0.20), 12R Availability, 6ky
0.39 027.25 Thermographic Vision (Deltaware) 0.05 Essence (0.10), 12 Availability, 3.75ky
0.46 035.25 Vision Enhancement (Betaware) 0.07 Essence (0.10), 13 Availability, 18ky
0.71 072.75 Encephalon (Deltaware) 0.25 Essence (0.50), 14 Availability, 37.5ky
0.71 087.45 Memory (Standard) 0.00 Essence (0.00), 1.25 Availability, 14.7ky
0.91 092.45 Commlink (Standard) 0.20 Essence (0.20), 12 Availability, 5ky
1.16 096.45 Datajack (Standard) 0.25 Essence (0.25), 2 Availability, 4ky
1.36 111.45 Chemical Analyzer (Standard) 0.20 Essence (0.20), 4 Availability, 15ky
1.64 204.45 Muscle Augmentation (Betaware) 0.28 Essence (0.40), 14R Availability, 93ky
1.92 303.45 Muscle Toner (Betaware) 0.28 Essence (0.40), 14R Availability, 99ky

Total: 1.92 Essence, 303.45ky So it cost me 2 Essence.
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Jul 2, 2020 8:07 am
@Genecortess. Do you want me to plug stuff into herolab?

Also I think my char is mostly finished par contacts, but just need to move her across to here. And finsih spending money.. I have no idea what to spend money on, after being out of karma for focuses.
Jul 2, 2020 10:24 am
Going Street Samurai with the Church of Maximilian faction.
Jul 2, 2020 11:15 am
I'm good. Just spent a lot of time checking and double checking. I still have to spend down money really. Everything else is done. Could do some more back history and a bit more on contacts history. Nuts and Bolts wise I think the character is done. Obviously Carter is a touch rich (A option) in order to pay for that expensive bio/cyber ware.
Jul 2, 2020 11:35 am
I;m using magic so no expensive ware to spend money on.. I've even doubled up on things for reasons...
Jul 2, 2020 2:02 pm
Okay having read the next tier of explanations of the groups -- my character would opt for Group 3 then it would be a really hard decision between Group 2 or 1 as he would not really care to work for either one of those for totally different reasons.
Jul 2, 2020 2:43 pm
Okay moving forward then with the base concept should have it down soon
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Jul 2, 2020 4:05 pm
LightOfMidnight says:
Can I get clarification of what teams people are eyeing, and rough concept to avoid clashing. As trying to decide between a few. The current one is a mystic adept looking at Maya's ring, though have spied a few adepts/mystic adepts being mentioned.
My character will be from Malapascua, a small island north of Cebu, and she came to Manila several years ago to make money. She hides her identity and sends money back to her family. She will work for any faction that can afford her guns - so she can be placed wherever it suits the GM.

I am considering a minor adept (priority D) in a street samurai pistoleer concept - maybe with better than average social skills (depends how character creation goes), or a technomancer character.

The key element for the character is that she comes from poverty and any abilities need to be inherent (adept/technomancer) as opposed to purchased or learned (cybernetics, decker), but I am flexible within that framework.

@kenesperanza - any preference for technomancer vs street samurai? would one concept round out the campaign more?
Jul 2, 2020 4:08 pm
I see no conflict with my character except perhaps my group having potential conflict with your group ;)
Jul 2, 2020 4:20 pm
The wild side of Jasper's Syndicate appeals the best to me for Carter. That and drugs.
Jul 2, 2020 4:51 pm
ed... says:
LightOfMidnight says:
Can I get clarification of what teams people are eyeing, and rough concept to avoid clashing. As trying to decide between a few. The current one is a mystic adept looking at Maya's ring, though have spied a few adepts/mystic adepts being mentioned.
My character will be from Malapascua, a small island north of Cebu, and she came to Manila several years ago to make money. She hides her identity and sends money back to her family. She will work for any faction that can afford her guns - so she can be placed wherever it suits the GM.

I am considering a minor adept (priority D) in a street samurai pistoleer concept - maybe with better than average social skills (depends how character creation goes), or a technomancer character.

The key element for the character is that she comes from poverty and any abilities need to be inherent (adept/technomancer) as opposed to purchased or learned (cybernetics, decker), but I am flexible within that framework.

@kenesperanza - any preference for technomancer vs street samurai? would one concept round out the campaign more?
Either choice are fine. I'm guessing this character will prefer to work with Maya so either choice is fine.
Jul 2, 2020 6:54 pm
Smiles.. I guess I could use where my house is in Philippines. Yes. I do have one there. It is in Dipolog City. The port Dipitan is very close to Dipolog City. You can go from Dipitan to Cebu or Manila by airplane or boat. That is home territory that I know well. I also know some of Down Town Manila as well.

So I guess that is good place for a starting point for Carter. I did mention that I knew of Philippines.
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Hope all that figures something out....
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Jul 3, 2020 5:23 am
Oh it definitely did -- lots of good stuffs ;)
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Jul 3, 2020 6:51 am
Okay all adjustments made heading down the final stretch -- oh kenesperanza can you drop in on the Negative Quality discussion I am having with MrArmitage -- I would like your thoughts on a couple of proposals as well as your general thoughts on any suggestions for Negative Qualities and/or on the suggestions that I have made.

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I'll look into it.

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Jul 4, 2020 12:28 am
I am now remembering that the worst part of the Shadowrun system is character creation. Can I get a little help crunching the numbers?
Jul 4, 2020 12:34 am
What parts? Feel free to DM me and I can throw stuff into Herolab.
Jul 4, 2020 1:06 am
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We can do the step by step character creation if you want.
I understand you already have a character concept.
Jul 4, 2020 2:31 pm
Yeah ed... we are already doing one step by step process we could launch a new or you could join in on that one
Jul 5, 2020 12:48 am
I highly recommend Chummer for character creation. I've literally never played Shadowrun before, but I'm mostly able to put together a functional character using that to organize everything. It lets you toggle sourcebooks, and it gives you a reference page for the specific rules for each thing in it. Super handy.

All that said, what're people looking at doing so far? I know I saw one Rigger, at least.
Jul 5, 2020 1:24 am
TEAM COMPOSITION
Not final, If you want to trade places with someone, do tell

JASPER
GeneCortess: Carter, Street Samurai(?)
PsionicHamster: ???
Tuatete: Street Samurai(?)

MAYA
Mr.Armitage: Rigger
LightOFMidnight: Mystic Adept
ed...: Face(?)

MAXIMILIAN
DeJoker: Batman :)
nezzeraj: Street Samurai
TheEzzran: ???

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You can still trade places with the others.
Jul 5, 2020 1:28 am
Heh, that spread makes me think I should make a Decker, but I might just have to hope it won't ruin things if we don't have one, so I can make a Shaman. I've got that Ork Shaman idea that would work well for Max's group.
Jul 5, 2020 1:42 am
I don't mind role redundancies. You can be a team of three street samurais if you want, it would be interesting to see a team slash their way through all their mission. Massacre squad hehe.

Either Deckers or Shamans would surely help the Maximilian team.
Jul 5, 2020 2:29 am
Carter is all ready for team slash through missions..:)...Of course needs his ugly cohort with him.
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Jul 5, 2020 2:36 am
GeneCortess says:
Carter is all ready for team slash through missions..:)...Of course needs his ugly cohort with him.
If you're all set with your character, you can post in this thread: https://gamersplane.com/forums/thread/17920/
We can run a side story while waiting for the others to finish their characters.
Jul 5, 2020 2:46 am
I still need to spend down my cash. but otherwise I think the character is rather finished.. is bank account consider free cash as I'm sure a credstick is. I thought I had to spend down to some value.
Jul 5, 2020 3:00 am
You store nuyen on Credstick but your starting money should still be 5000+(I forgot the die roll haha).
So you can't start with say 100000 Nuyen on your bank account.

How much money can you still spend? What do you want to buy? I can recommend stuff you can buy like maybe a better apartment, vehicles, club membership, gym membership, spa membership, a blender, or whatever.
Jul 5, 2020 3:13 am
At a glance I can easily spend down to below 100,000 without even thinking about it.. now below 50k or so that when we start thinking about it...

Was looking for a 1 person mini helicopter but couldn't fine one. The ultra way to travel. I do have a Harley bike. Wasn't too keen going for a car and such. hovercrafts are neat.

Spend down some..

Have 20k Bank account and 5k credstick. and wearing 10ky clothing.

but still have 33.89ky to spend.. so I need idea's to spend more money.. and if the bank account and cred stick isn't good then I have more money to spend.. I did only put 1 month into lifestyle. so I could easily burn 30ky for three more months...:)
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Jul 5, 2020 3:39 am
Oh, man. I'm a Shaman. I have no idea what I'll spend 100k Nuyen on. Even with E Rank money, I have more than I need. Probably I'll spend it on pimping out my Shaman's Lodge thing >.>
Jul 5, 2020 3:41 am
You don't want the memberships? hahaha

For one seat aircrafts there's the Northrup Wasp Rotorcraft (Y 86,000) and the Artemis Industries Nightwing Fixed wing (Y 20,000). Both can be found on Core Rulebook I think. You need to have a garage for those too. Garage could be around (Y 500/day) so that's (Y 15000 per month) and let's just simplify that to (Y 80,000) and it can store your gear and rides with less risk of them getting stolen. If you ain't got a place to store em cause you can't carry them around, I'd say someone might steal it.
Jul 5, 2020 3:48 am
TheEzzran says:
Oh, man. I'm a Shaman. I have no idea what I'll spend 100k Nuyen on. Even with E Rank money, I have more than I need. Probably I'll spend it on pimping out my Shaman's Lodge thing >.>
You will need the basics and the Intro Runner Pack costs 4000 NY or 2 Karma Points. The Pack includes:
[ +- ] Spoiler
Jul 5, 2020 4:21 am
After my Doc Wagon and bio/cyber's… I had less than the money really to spend on a helicopter. I would think my High standard building would have a suitable landing spot and pack away in my garage a I don't really have a car in it. Just my bike. I guess I can advance pay living standard... is the 20k in my bank account fine or should I just spend that down too in living standard?

Forgot to save that earlier so you could see my spend down.... saved it now.

Oh. If you approve my character then all can see my picture.

Hmmm do need to buy ammo for my gun and some grenades… always fun. But that probably isn't expensive.
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Jul 5, 2020 4:44 am
Oh, I just realized your character lived in a suite so sure, he's got a garage and other stuff. And yea you can advance pay for your lifestyle. 100,000 for a year, 10,000 monthly. You get discount for paying for a whole year in advance sort of deal.

As for 20k on bank account I still have to insist on max 5000 starting NuYen sorry. 20,000 on bank is still NuYen. You can say that daddy forgot to send Carter money. That adds flavor to why Carter would want to work for Jasper like you're desperate for drugs but you ain't got money cause 'daddy forgot'. Something like that.
Jul 5, 2020 4:52 am
Well I have to admit Carter does love Daddies money. Lets him not have to work and have whatever he wants mostly. Daddy doesn't need that much money anyway. LOL... Lucky Carters Drugs are excessively cheap. He spends more on his clothing. Everyone that knows Carter. .he always good for having cash. Life of the party.

Don't have enough cash to do a year on HIGH living. .but I can do half a year I think for 60,000y. With the free cash now and empty my bank account that and the 10k already put there.. I should have 60ky. Need to get that ammo and grenades squirrelled way. and see how much has to go.. I have 5ky on the cred already.
Jul 5, 2020 5:19 am
Okay.. I have everything spend now and less than 5k on my credstick.

Can't save the street cred a "5" system will not save it. Bug. and can't save my Notary at "-1" either.. Bug
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Jul 5, 2020 5:25 am
Roll 4D6 for Starting money

Computation:
(Remaining NuYen, Max 5000) + (4d6 x 100) = Starting Money
Jul 5, 2020 5:36 am
Well my credstick is my starting money left.. and it is 4615 NuYen.

I'm removing all my calculation stuff now.
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Jul 5, 2020 7:02 am
Not sure how they make my eyes (smarklink & sensor connect) to my gun, my bike & my Drone. Wireless? Is the Encephalon with wireless as it is basically connected to everything. That is of course assuming my gun, bike, and drone have wireless too. Well that is the only way I can figure it. Wireless just isn't covered well. Smiles. I do need to list the sensors on my drone now that I think about it. Gotta love that mosquito.
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Jul 5, 2020 7:10 am
I just found out that spell calculation is bugged on Chummer so I'll have to do it manually which won't be great, but here we go I guess!
Jul 5, 2020 7:12 am
Datajacks are...

"They typically resemble a coin-sized dataport that is implanted either on the side of the head (typically in the temporal region of the skull, behind the ear or on the temple) or the back of the neck (just below the brainstem), although a datajack can be placed anywhere in the body."

Wireless is an option too. The only thing you need to watch out for are hackers.
Jul 5, 2020 9:32 am
Yeah wireless has it's disadvantages. So I can assume my Datajack has wireless. I put internal Smartgun system on my gun so it must also be wireless. As is my the sensors and such on my Harley. Obviously the drone is wireless since it doesn't come with a controller box. Okay now my Mosquito size Drone has 3 sensors on it at Rating 3. Such a cute little thing. Nice to keep on one's shoulder and such so you can use those dear sensors all the time. Although they don't have a lot of range. The sensors on the Harley are wireless... the Harley itself is not. So no wireless starting it for a faster get away or guiding it. It is nicely Chromed out.. :)
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Jul 5, 2020 12:41 pm
Ok should have my character finished by tomorrow. Made a female dwarf street samurai. I like how she's turning out so far. I went priority A with money and I still got 233k nuyen left over lol. Anything you'd recommend me buying?
Jul 5, 2020 1:58 pm
nezzeraj says:
Ok should have my character finished by tomorrow. Made a female dwarf street samurai. I like how she's turning out so far. I went priority A with money and I still got 233k nuyen left over lol. Anything you'd recommend me buying?
Vehicles, a better Lifestyle, a building?
If you have the skill Etiquette (Corporate), a Commercial Business?
You can always use the money for Skill softs or you can get more cyber ware.
Jul 5, 2020 6:13 pm
You ever get like most of the way through making a character, then realize that the character you've made is not appropriate for the game at all? Yeah that just happened. Hit the knowledge skills and was like "Wait crap this character doesn't work here."

I'll switch gears a bit. Still making a Shaman, just gonna make the Ork instead of the human with the cool image. The Ork fits rather well in Maximillian's Robin Hood thing, after all.
Jul 6, 2020 12:57 am
Either is fine with me. I don't mind if a character doesn't fit the group they work for.
For Shamans, related Philippine folk lore might help.

Engkanto - Mythical environmental spirits
Albularyo - Faith healers, Witch doctors.
Mangkukulam - Witches
Mambabarang - Hexers
Jul 6, 2020 1:09 am
I've named her "Diwa" because, according to the site I found, that means "Spirit" which I figured would be a good name for her. She was raised in a halfway house, which she continues to support with money from her runs and stopping by to hang out, provide some healing magic for the people there, etc. She keeps the exact details of what she does to herself. The people who run the place have likely figured it out, but plausible deniability and all that.

She's Bear Totem, too, so extra good at the healing. She'll be good support for the group, providing healing magic and some decent firepower. She doesn't have a lot of utility outside of that, though. She has like 11 spells, 6 of them are Healing, 4 are Combat, and 1 is Illusion (the Silence one).

No vehicle for her. She's Uneducated, so she wouldn't be able to drive one anyway. I think I've done everything I need to do for the base creation process. Getting her stuff transferred to the GP sheet now.
Jul 6, 2020 1:20 am
Nice. That word means a lot of things and 'spirit' is a close translation but 'ethos' I think is a closer translation.
Jul 6, 2020 1:27 am
Y'know, given the Oath and her attitude, that seems perfect. I love it when a name accidentally works on multiple levels.
Jul 6, 2020 2:41 am
Well, I think Diwa is complete. I have her sheet in the thing. Just need to roll money, but I'm not actually sure where to do that, exactly.
Jul 6, 2020 2:58 am
Diwa and Carter are approved will post a sidestory thread later for each or if you prefer it could be an interaction between the two of you, a junkie and a shaman met in a bar sort of setup.

Re: SIDESTORIES

This are just non-mission threads to explore characters and character relationships. (Main purpose is so we can do something while we wait for others to finish their characters or posts.)
Jul 6, 2020 3:09 am
I'm down for either or both of those. Gives me a chance to get a feel for Diwa's "voice" and how the system works.
Jul 6, 2020 4:00 am
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Jul 6, 2020 4:34 am
@DeJoker

Approved

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Jul 6, 2020 6:47 am
Since the first three characters are workin for Max, Imma change the team composition now. (Will post this on the Usual Suspects thread too for quick reference).

TEAM COMPOSITION
Not final, If you want to trade places with someone, do tell
* I have to finalize Max's team though since the team already has three characters ready.
* Future opportunities to transfer may open.

JASPER

nezzeraj: Street Samurai
PsionicHamster: ???
Tuatete: Street Samurai(?)

MAYA
Mr.Armitage: Rigger
LightOFMidnight: Mystic Adept
ed...: Face(?)

MAXIMILIAN
DeJoker: Murri
GeneCortess: Carter
TheEzzran: Diwa
Jul 6, 2020 1:45 pm
Ok finished and submitted my character and posted an introduction.
Jul 6, 2020 3:00 pm
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Jul 6, 2020 3:23 pm
@ed Anymore ideas? I can adapt to half-face if needed. We have a mystic -dept, focusing on combat and manipulation, though with a cheeky heal spell in there, and looks like a rigger.
Jul 6, 2020 8:48 pm
Hey LightOfMidnight, could you hop over to the creation guide thread? I have no clue how to turn what we've done into a working character sheet. If you have software to do that quicker, would you mind helping? :D
Jul 7, 2020 12:45 am
Just doing the dice roll for money don't mind me.

Rolls

Money - (4d6)

(3462) = 15

Jul 7, 2020 1:55 am
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Jul 7, 2020 2:29 am
Here is the Lifestyle Starting Nuyen chart if you were unaware of it or cannot find it easily
[ +- ] Lifestyle Starting Nuyen
[ +- ] Lifestyle Cost to Maintain per Month
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Last edited July 7, 2020 3:28 am

Rolls

Starting Nuyen x 60 - (3d6)

(356) = 14

Jul 7, 2020 3:43 am
Here's a question that might be relevant: What language are we all speaking? Diwa speaks whatever common "native" language makes the most sense, and also some Japanese.
Jul 7, 2020 3:48 am
Mandarin (Level 6), Japanese (Level 6), German (Level 6), Filipino (Level 6), English (Native).. doesn't cost Carter much to get another language.. Just memory space. If temporary he has a datajack free for a lingudata soft. He has a computer in his head and memory.
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Jul 7, 2020 5:30 am
Murri currently speaks Filipino (Native) but also English, Mandarin, Japanese, and Spanish all fairly fluently
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Jul 8, 2020 11:21 am
Spanish was listed in the info post so I chose that and English.
Jul 8, 2020 2:02 pm
So with Mr.Armitage taking a break (@ Armitage I hope everything IRL and do take care), do we know if ...ed is still around, or is looking like a single show for Maya group?
Jul 8, 2020 2:03 pm
Oh now I have two questions

1) Other than Filipino -- what are the 4 most common languages spoken in Manilia ?? I should have asked this up front I suppose

2) Where is Tondo as I did not see it on the politico map
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Jul 8, 2020 2:28 pm
DeJoker says:
Oh now I have two questions

1) Other than Filipino -- what are the 4 most common languages spoken in Manilia ?? I should have asked this up front I suppose

2) Where is Tondo as I did not see it on the politico map
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1. Language related to the four megacorps: English, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish.
Filipino - used mostly by natives living in the slums and another group :)
German - Saeder Krupp is in another part of the Philippines, Cebu City which is outside of Metro Manila.
Swardspeak - LGBTQ community. No program for this as it is not a formal language.

2. Tondo is in Manila City. Metro Manila is a group of several cities but we just refer to it as Manila. (I'll post maps, but I can't get this toaster laptop of mine to work properly haha)

In game: Manila is under Wuxing but nobody cares about Tondo. It's the slums area of Manila City.

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Jul 8, 2020 2:39 pm
Okay let me re-word my question -- if someone were living mostly in the lower sections of society what would be the 3 most common languages other than (Filipino and English) ?? Basically I am trying figure out what languages would have been more common for my character to pick up -- Filipino was a given ... English because that is the native language of his friend ... then either one other language associated with the organization that grew him -- and/or one or two more from the streets

1) Maybe the common language spoken at the facility where he was grown
2) 2 or 3 common languages from the streets of Manilia
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Jul 8, 2020 2:51 pm
for your character Filipino, English, Chinese or Japanese
though Spanish is easier to pick up if you know Filipino and English since they have a lot of common words
Jul 8, 2020 4:11 pm
okay and by Chinese I am assuming we are talking Mandarin ? as their are like over a 300 languages in China and unless one person speaks the same language they cannot understand another
[ +- ] The 7 More Common Languages of China
Okay so we have Mandarin, Japanese, Spanish as being fairly common on the streets of Manila how common are Sperethiel and Or'zet on the streets and underground of Manila
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Jul 8, 2020 4:23 pm
Yep. Mandarin.
Sperethiel and Or'zet are less common... (reason will be revealed later IC)
Jul 8, 2020 5:43 pm
Alright I will fix my languages then as he would have picked up the more common languages from the streets. So his languages are as follows all of which he speaks almost as fluently as he does his native language.
Filipino (Native)
English
Japanese
Mandarin
Spanish

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Jul 10, 2020 2:58 am
LightOfMidnight says:
@ed Anymore ideas? I can adapt to half-face if needed. We have a mystic -dept, focusing on combat and manipulation, though with a cheeky heal spell in there, and looks like a rigger.
Sorry I lost track of the threads while making a character. I made a gunslinging adept with high charisma and moderately good social skills with the ability to disguise and impersonate. So a moderately good Face who can shoot pretty well too.
Jul 10, 2020 7:54 am
Cool. I also have good disguise and con, for backstory reasons, but can leave the rest to you on the face side. And hey that means we can both sneak into places.
Jul 10, 2020 3:41 pm
Will wait for LightOfMidnight to submit a character and post on the Runner thread. Your other team member might join later.
Jul 10, 2020 4:17 pm
Just need to do contacts and a rough background. Had a busy week, plus was waiting to see what others came up with. Should be done by today.

Edit: About to throw a link to a PDF on sheet, and background, to speed this up and will slowly translate to GP sheet
Last edited July 10, 2020 5:07 pm

Rolls

Money - (4d6)

(2423) = 11

Jul 20, 2020 8:42 pm
So... Character concept 1: Centaur Rigger. Because why not?

Looking at Priorities for Riggers, I learned the following:
1: Money Matters.
2: Magic doesn't.
3: Centaurs need C+ Priority on metatype, with more being better for... Edge?

Biggest questions is whether skills or attributes are more important. I do think it would make sense the centaur is physically able so I don't want to squander attributes completely.

Playing around with Chummer, I think I need to do it like this:
A: 500k NuYen.
B: Attributes
C: Metatype (Centaur)
D: Skills
E: Magic

Now looking at my important stats.... Reaction, Logic and Intuition?
Jul 20, 2020 9:55 pm
Quote:
Because why not?
Well I can think of a few reasons ;) for instance

(1) The character cannot pilot any normal vehicles directly whether they be plane or automobile or just about anything that that has not been significantly modified to accommodate a centaurs fairly unique body style as the character would never fit in the normal pilot's seat -- so that will leave just remote and jumping in -- or -- spending some portion of that extra 150% Increased Lifestyle on a vehicle that you can use -- not sure how much the centaur modification would cost to implement -- then of course none of your teammates will be able to drive that vehicle if the need arises

(2) Just getting around in an urban setting is going to be difficult but doing it unnoticed is going to be next to impossible without magic or a stealth suit of some sort

(3) The character loses 25 Karma from the starting allotment to gain a bunch of things that while really nice are next to useless when it comes to a Rigger (or a Decker) -- since none of those bonuses help a Rigger to be good at what they need to be good at

(4) The species starts with a 1 in Magic (which is fairly rare much like species itself is) which you will be just throwing away -- however it would be another reason why that species would not go into something that did not deal with magic in some way -- and definitely not something that is the actually antithesis to having that benefit -- aka you are throwing away an integral part of that species inclinations which would kind be like pulling out the flight feathers from flying sea bird to forever ground it so it can be a land based forager

(5) Oh and why does that species start with a Magic of 1 -- well to use the Search ability as one must make a (Magic + Intuition) check in order to use it and if you get just 1 point of 'Ware (not uncommon for a Rigger) you just took your Magic from a 1 to a 0 which means (if I understand how that magical power works) you cannot even use that ability anymore as its based on magic which you would no longer have -- you would thus simply be a burned-out mage-type

But other than those things -- it is your character -- knock yourself out -- still keep in mind that your character's hassles in an urban setting end up being your teams hassles in an urban setting as well
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Jul 20, 2020 10:05 pm
I hadn't even noticed the built-in magic, or what it does for a centaur. Hmmm. I'm not completely married to the rigger, or centaur for that matter. I just had an image pop in my head of a centaur charging into battle with some sort of melee weapon while drones do some scouting, shooting, etc.


Edit: ...Maybe an adept? No idea. I'll think on it tomorrow.
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Jul 20, 2020 10:22 pm
Yeah well there are lots of other species you can play with that would easily implement a Rigger -- but your backing up a street samurai -- which many of the Archetypes can do -- I would think a Decker would perhaps be on the top of that list -- still here are all the Archetypes for review

Archetype: Street Sam (already taken but does not mean you cannot be one)
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Archetype: Decker
Archetype: Face
Archetype: Mage
Archetype: Rigger
Archetype: Technomancer

The question is what Archetype would you like to play and/or what Metatype would you like to play --- I mean with Run Faster the number of playable Metatypes is quite a few.

However perhaps its neither an Archetype nor a Metatype that you truly want to play but perhaps a concept or theme.

As to the Centaur -- they can be nice but you really need to play them in their element -- playing one of them in an urban setting would be like playing an aquatic species in the middle of a desert -- you are kind of shooting yourself in the foot with that species.
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Jul 21, 2020 1:40 am
While there are no Centaurs in Philippine Mythology, there is something called Tikbalang which is like a minotaur with a horse head (like Bojack). They're illusionists and often trap their victims in an 'endless' forest. We can make a metasapient that should fit Tikbalangs if you want. I'm thinking they are magical creatures.

2076 Manila allows all kinds of metahumans and metasapients.
Jul 21, 2020 9:50 am
I have dropped the idea for a rigger and am now looking at a mage. My idea was to be of the black magic tradition which ties in nicely to Jasper's syndicate. She would use magic of drug-like effects and addiction. Someone who can lure in new clients and boost the effect of narcotics would be a welcome addition to any drug syndicate.

My original idea was to simply go human, but after reading a bit on Tikbalang (on Wikipedia) I think it might work lore-wise (no idea on the mechanics). A Tikbalang mage specializing in illusion and manipulation would be fitting in the above concept; with the woods gone, a Tikbalang now seeks to trap its victims in different ways. This one would seek to trap them in their own minds by luring them into addiction, and use illusionism to hide among the metahumans. It would be interesting if it can somehow derive power or sustenance from its victims, thereby motivating it to expand its influence and number of dependents. The challenge will be in roleplaying one, for I, being just another westerner dude who never set foot in asia, am clueless on the mythology.
Jul 21, 2020 10:44 am
Ok, let's work on how we'd set that Tikbalang race. Close approximation in western lore can be Orobas who's a prince of hell. English translation says Demon Horse, but they are more related to engkanto (fae) and not hells demons.

Some Feats to consider:

SATYR LEGS
*they're feet are like horses but they're not centaurs.
[ +- ] Spoiler
CAMOUFLAGE
*I read they're stalkers and would only reveal themselves to their prey if they want to. So maybe they can camouflage. Or maybe they secrete pheromones from their pores that makes others think they are insignificant like they are there but the chemicals would tell their minds that the tikbalang is not there.
[ +- ] Spoiler
MAGIC SENSE
*they are magical creatures I just assume they can detect magic
[ +- ] Spoiler
They should have high CHA and low LOG (cause why do they stop preying on people wearing reversed clothing, I don't get it.)
BOD can go high but STR is not like trolls or minotaurs, they rely on their illusions more than their strength, they just use their big bodies to intimidate people.

Build it and I'll go check it :)
Jul 21, 2020 11:18 am
Looking on how to go at this, I think that's too hard for me. First, I have no idea how to make a custom metatype since I'm too green at the game ruleset. Second, I rely on Chummer to calculate my stats, and I have no idea how to import custom metatypes into it.
Jul 21, 2020 11:28 am
Thinking on it some more, I think human is fine, but I might take a Tikbalang Mentor Spirit?
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Jul 21, 2020 2:12 pm
Khulod says:
Thinking on it some more, I think human is fine, but I might take a Tikbalang Mentor Spirit?
That's ok with me as well, what benefit do you propose that you get from your mentor spirit? Tikbalangs are quite promiscuous like incubus or succubus, I'm open with changing this mythology into something more wholesome though.
Jul 21, 2020 3:14 pm
Oh, didn't find anything on that in what little information I could uncover. But considering the business my character would be in I don't object to that really.

As for benefit, maybe something like this?

Tikbalang
Advantages:
All: +2 dice for Con Tests.
Magician: +2 dice for spells, preparations, and spell rituals of the Manipulation category.
Adept: 1 free level of Improved Ability for a skill in the Acting or Influence skill group.
DISADVANTAGES
You must succeed in a Charisma + Willpower (3) Test to avoid leading others astray when the opportunity presents itself.
Jul 21, 2020 4:00 pm
Interesting nice tweak -- however I would think you would want the following:

Magician: +2 dice for spells, preparations, and spell rituals of the Illusion category

As that facilitates the trickster leading individuals astray or playing pranks in the sense that you can make them get lost by subtle changes in their environment thus making them think they are going to the left when they are actually going to the right kind of thing or some other simple prank.

Also could you not make the Disadvantage a more generic

You must succeed in a Charisma + Willpower (3) Test to avoid playing a prank on others when the opportunity presents itself.

With of course the favorite prank being leading folks astray as in cause them to get lost or constantly returning back to the same spot no matter what direction they choose to go. I only say that because after reading a bit more on the spirit in question they did not seem overly malicious.
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Jul 21, 2020 4:32 pm
So each faction has a magician that likes pranks/playing tricks/playing on misfortune That's going to be very interesting. (Don't think I ever stated here but Lorelei also has the Raven)
Jul 21, 2020 4:46 pm
@DeJoker ...apart from the rape and eating people part? :)

The reason I went for manipulation is because it contains the influencing and mind control stuff that would seem more fitting in their theme to me, as well as levitate (a Tikbalang will apparently fly off if you jump on it to steal it's 3 golden hairs from its mane).
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Jul 21, 2020 5:27 pm
Yeah but we follow slightly different Raven Spirits as I took the alternate one who is more into acquiring stuff than playing pranks. I do not mind pranks but that did not fit this character concept ... that and I think I prefer the coyote approach to pranking those that deserved to be pranked not just pranking anyone and everyone. You know the bad folk, and sometimes coyotes pranks can be a form of deserved justice kind of thing.

So we at least of 2 prankster oriented spirit mentors ironically in the organizations my prankster would be more likely to focus on had I played one ;)
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Jul 21, 2020 5:37 pm
Ah fair, wasn't aware of the alternate, but yeah this character does like her tricks. Though may have to often make rolls to resist
Jul 21, 2020 5:38 pm
Okay Khulod I suppose that works -- I mean it is your concept -- I was just wondering so thanks for sharing.

Yeah I thought those two rather dark items seemed to be a bit out of place -- when reading all the other stuff -- aka those just did not seem to gel with the rest of the image that was being painted.

Still on the Illusion vs Manipulation -- I will respectfully agree to disagree on that -- if you are interested I can expound upon it otherwise enjoy the game
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Jul 22, 2020 2:18 am
I'm ok with the mentor spirit, if you want to pursue your disadvantage I might use a different system:

Another player (in your team, or anyone who'd volunteer) plays the 'Tikbalang' role, whispering suggestions in your mind from time to time.

The demon must not suggest things that would cause you harm, but it would suggest things that would potentially put others even your allies at risk.

GM decides when you need to take the roll to heed the Tikbalang's suggestion and if you fail you must do the suggestion to the best of your ability.

This way you can have mental conversations with the Tikbalang.

(Reason: Well if I have to play the Tikbalang role, I'd be biased as I already know stuff that your character doesn't know about and it might affect the game.)

This ok?

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This goes with other players who have mentor spirits that tries to meddle with their mentee's affairs.
Jul 22, 2020 2:27 am
Well mine is pretty straight forward -- if it looks like it might be useful and it does not belong to someone I care about or does not belong to anyone -- well then its mine or at least I attempt to make it mine -- not klepto just a pack-rat or magpie -- ooo a shiny ;)
Jul 22, 2020 1:01 pm
Yeah I'd be cool with that, especially as I may miss opportunities.
Jul 25, 2020 6:36 pm
Alright. I'm progressing. Now I need some help. Here's a link to my sheet so far:
https://we.tl/t-XZsCKQ7mmX

1: Can I start with bound spirits? Specifically, I want to bind a fire elemental that will appear and protect me in battle since I'm rubbish in a fight.
2: Foci and Fetishes. which ones do I need?
3: How bad did I mess up?
Jul 25, 2020 10:10 pm
Nero's Sheet

Think I'm done, straddling the line between Decker and Street Sam as well as I can.

Starting nuyen is x60...
Last edited July 25, 2020 10:10 pm

Rolls

Starting nuyen (low lifestyle) - (3d6)

(214) = 7

Jul 28, 2020 1:46 am
Khulod says:
Alright. I'm progressing. Now I need some help. Here's a link to my sheet so far:
https://we.tl/t-XZsCKQ7mmX

1: Can I start with bound spirits? Specifically, I want to bind a fire elemental that will appear and protect me in battle since I'm rubbish in a fight.
2: Foci and Fetishes. which ones do I need?
3: How bad did I mess up?
1. I'm not against getting a bound spirit but I would limit it to either Earth or Beast spirit.

2. I'm not good when it comes to it but why not list your choices so we can discuss it more.

3. You have Indonesian(N) and Mandarin for language... get points in English as well. Jasper group starts at the Northern part of Metro Manila: Lodestar Territory, so English is a good language to have.

Syndicate, You can specify a territory: (North, South, West, East) and you'll have bonus on checks RE:Syndicates other than Jasper in that territory. You can't get +2 dice pool on Jasper's syndicate, I'm limiting knowledge of the three factions.
Nov 9, 2020 7:59 pm
Hey kenesperanza if you return and want to pick this game back up please shoot me a PM would be more than happy to rejoin -- just leaving the game as there is no other way to get it off my active list.

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