OOC Thread

Just so y’all know, Bernard is obviously a bit pompous and self-important, so if y’all allow him to, he will assume he is entitled to leadership that he may not be the best person for given his dearth of real world experience.

Feel free to put him in his place a bit :)

The idea for the intro thread was more about establishing some of the personality quirks and inter party interactions - kinda feels like we’re rushing to create the introduction aspect currently.

There’s nothing stopping this from running parallel to the actual adventure, so take some time and show us a bit more of yourselves all.

I would like to start also. Let's run it in parallel. Like a flashback (I think the introduction thread is happening a couple of months earlier).

I agree.

Smiles. Gotta love cross posting..

Ah missed it is now unlocked. Who would our representative be? Khadi would obviously volunteer with her way with people and knowledge of the pharasmin church. Can see others also wanting to be representative however.

Bed time, for me, but have posted Bernard's thoughts, showing a little bit of growth over whatever time has transpired since arriving in Wati :)

I'll likely wait for a while then post as if Khadi is representive as Bernard has chosen not to, unless if course there is disagreement here on who should be.

I don't want to lol

I second that notion Rizzoxiii. I don't wish it either.

Is that not wishing to be the representative or not wishing it to be Khadi?

Smiles. I don't wish to be the representative for clarification.

Same on representative

The same

With her skills and backgtond maybe Esmae she be...

GeneCortess and I have talked offline and he's going to withdraw from the game.

Weeeeeeeee what just happened lol

A shame. I think a few of us got a bit caught up, but yeah when pvp happens can always be fun.

One thing I will say is not all monks (or anyone of any class) have to act a certain way. I mean I have played at least one intelligent barian who had a cold fury rage.

Still what is done is done. Though can be a reason Khadi and Bernard get on a bit better with her healing him.

I played pathfinder many times. I never had a group before that automatically makes Knowledge (arcana) 20+ rolls to understand every spell casted, but this group can. Primary cause that leads to my leaving.

Wow! I'm offline for a day and miss everything!

We never did. He said what he was doing, that he could embiggen you and our characters saw the effect. There was no harmful effect so to Khadi it seemed to be a support spell to aid martial given he was speaken about what he could when an enemy was in front of you. I apologise if you felt ganged up on, I think different people read the scenario in different ways.

No such thing as a chaotic monk, I see monks like I see jedi. Am I wrong in thinking this way?

Different monks react differently to different situations, but their behavior is always lawful.

True on the chaotic, but even if all are lawful you can be lawful in many different ways, at least is my I tepretation
There's even a fey monk who I might play as 'chaotic lawful' one day. As in they do have an order and reason to their method, just because fey think different from others it seems alien and chaotic to them. So just trying to say there is no one way any class should act, though certainly in regards to alignment some actions can be odd.

Of course you also have your standard wise and disciplined monks as well.

Been playing this for over 7 years so I'm very fond of playing against stereotype and mixing things up.

Would love to have a (friendly) discussion some point on it, just not at 4 in the morning. Heat is keeping me awake.

Edit: Also martial artist archetype can be chaotic but hey that's an outlier :p
Edit 2: What's done is done, and the main thread needs more love. Need to decide representative, sounds like it's Khadi or Esmae. Both are charisma and good with people. Khadi will have offered as she has knolwdge of Pharasma and the grand mauseleoum due to her father and background of having been born there. (Dusk walkers pop up in sanctified sites associated with death, Pharasma etc) She does care about group consensus however so while maybe she will pout a bit will accept another choice.

Lol chaotic lawful? That's like saying you are going to be a good evil paladin

I'll see if I can dig out a certain post at some point. Obviously it's not a real term or alignment but it sort of is meant to encapsulate the fact sometimes it's hard to just slap an alignment on things. So as said they are actually lawful just the laws they follow are alien to others therefore come off as chaotic, which is very fitting for fey. Many class Fae as chaotic, yet they do often have strict things like 'cannot lie, a year and a day, binding contracts, etc.'

Also has tensions may still be high and written form is bad at tone - This isn't me arguing, just sharing some things that I genuinely find interesting about the game and love to play with/discuss.

Yes but a monk is not a monk if they are not lawful, they retain all of there abilities. But cannot level as a monk anymore.

Ah yes but this starts the 'what is lawful' debate etc. Perhaps didn't explain properly the Fae monk I am talking about with be Lawful good, or Ln and I would have a list of how they behave but if someone was not aware of said list, they may see the actions as chaotic, as they do not think as Fae do.

Similar another idea I have had is a Lawful Good rogue of Kalinahat, who is a lawful good spy deity. (With a possible monk dip) The character would be adept at breaking into places and do it regularly, but all for the sake of law enforcement/governing body of the city, and with belief it is for the greater good. Yet there are many who immeadiatly see breaking in etc as chaotic, and neutral at best. So sometimes it can be fun to play with intpretations of alignments.

(Also just a fun aside blodragers don't have non-lawful restriction like barbs so while one cannot be a monk barian, you can be a monk Bloodrager.... And now I'm getting yet another character idea.)

Note that I don’t actually have an issue with the Monk being played more on the stern silent semi barbarian side. Nor even completely with the decision to make a physical attack. It’s simply that there is a whole lot more nuance available than what occurred to get that across and keep true to that character.

All I was really trying to do was provide opportunities for characters to explain a bit more about themselves while also showing that Bernard is a bit of a pompous arse at this point in time. He’s essentially a privileged boomer stereotype at this point - only way I could really think to explain why an older wizard would only be level 1, and based partially off Pembroke from the Glass Cannon podcast.

Fixed

Usually, my groups are like that also. I really like the more tactical part of the game. But since the release of Kingmaker and the turn-based combat mod (now part of the game in the enhanced edition) I more inclined to appreciate the more roleplayed/story part.

But that haven't made me less inclined to analyze every aspect of the tactical decisions of combat, as the charts bellow shows (for Jaware):





That analysis has made me realize that The Elephant in the room house rule is good not just because it gets rid of feat tax, but because it give martial characters more options in combat for free, therefore making combat more fun and tactical for gamers like me.

The top floor has four rooms and a sitting area / garden. 10gp a night it could be yours.

2 more? @ 10gp a night we need all of them to move in lol

Sorry, Khadi's quite happy not paying at her own place. She likely hasn't offered others to stay as one of her dad's is Pharasmin and not too keen on the lottery.

I'm also in.

Thought worthwhile saying if any people newer to Golarion have no idea what I and others are going on about at times do ask us, or the Pathfinderwiki page for Osirian also helps. It has very rich lore but at same time don't want people to feel alienated about it. (Then again the wiki refers to a cult of Khepri so you know, pinch of salt... probably..)

Looks like we have all 4 rooms taken then, so it will be 2.5gp per day

You'll have loads of coin for tomorrow night. Or you'll be dead.

This made me look up our sheets... And yep I'm technically squishier than the wizard (by 1 AC not counting mage armour). Oh boy.

Sorry guys, I was AFK for a few days because me and my family got sick (probably rotavirus).

Umm new tricks?

Failing an adventure at the first hurdle -> The door

The strong people didn't come apparently Esmae and Gethean are the only two with positive strength bonuses,+2 and +1. Nor did anyone bring tomb exploring gear, it seems.

You can open it, just everybody take 20 on strength checks and I'll apply the "Unpleasantly sweaty" condition to each of you.

Even without the crowbar or Strength bonuses, this will get you to a 28 Strength check.

If it's any consolation, the last group I DMed this for also did not bring any crypt opening tools like crowbars, haha.

My excuse is I brought all the healing supplies :P.

Yeah it was probably something we should have discussed. Oh well. We can slowly build a kit of stuff and throw it in a bag of holding/handy haversack at some point. (One had a phantom thief rogue rogue who had a handbag that was a handy haversack as she was a noble who cared for appearances. Some the of the many things inside: Wine, crowbar, shovel, multiple bags of marbles, acid, two numerian mines and the weapons of all the enemies she disarmed)

Sometime you got to make do with what's lying around and sometimes what's lying around is a dead scorpion...

Checks adventure path, sees 14 Strength challenges stacked end to end.

This is fine.

It's fine we have a paladin... And aid another. Something I forgot earlier is that Khadi has helpful so gives a +3. Every little helps :p

My excuse is when you're a channel focused cleric who needs more skill ranks for flavour somethings got to go and that something was the physical stats. I at least have packed a lot of healing supplies.

Something happened?

Hurricane time. Please be patient and, gods willing, I'll see you on the other side.

You got this, just remember... "Stop, drop, and roll." Wait, that doesn't sound right.

C1INDER has applied to fill in the empty spot. Unless objections are forthcoming (if so send me PM), I'll work their character into the line up as soon as they are ready.

You haven't had any tough fights yet, but it's Pathfinder so you know they're coming.

It might be handy for each of you to post a short description of your character name, class and role.

Hi everyone! I missed the first round of invites, so I was excited to see a spot open. I'm looking forward to joining your delve into the tombs of Wati and beyond.

I took the opportunity to try and catch up on where you guys are at, including some riveting events in the prelude thread 0.o

If I'm seeing things clearly, the group could use a STR-based front-liner and I'm happy to fill that - If anyone has suggestions please let me know. I'll throw some concepts together soon and post them here for feedback.

Thanks for having me!

Crowbar. We need a crowbar :p

But yeah a tank/strength frontline could be good.

Khadi is a blossoming light cleric of Khepri (Sun god of workers with a sense of humour) focused for healing and combatting undead plus buffs, but is squishier than the wizard. More charisma focused than most clerics as l she doesn't need to worry for spell dcs too much. Good at identifying undead and weirdly outsiders and mundane healing, and alright at talking to people.

I dig what I've seen of the characters so far!

So, I'm waffling between Warpriest and Paladin. Here are my thoughts:

- Warpriest - good front line, great magic versatility, we already have a cleric - is this too much?, high wisdom (good for perception checks)
- Paladin (Undead Scourge): immunity to disease (and fear if I don't take the archetype), maybe better front line, good saves, high charisma (do we need more 'face'?), some heals, alignment restriction (bleh)

Either choice, my deity of choice would be Horus, I believe. What do you all think?

Ooh Horus. Two old sun gods will be interesting.

Warpriest I feel is more self buff so likely not too much clashing. Though most Khadi's spells be buff or fooder for healing. Paladin nice and tanky.

Face wise I will be putting ranks in diplomacy, have decent cha and bonus in some circustances. (good aligned people and those I am trying to convince to be good) whether that is useful in a dungeon crawl game.

Either or, but yea someone to lift things )

Sounds like a group question. My intention would be to have them leave for reasons I'll have no issue coming up with, but other options are for me to run them as a GMPC mostly in the background or something else you think is appropriate.

Trap Fodder!!!!

And hit hard!

I am OK with a GMPC, you can play if you want...it's your game :-)

GMPC + potential trap fodder? Lol I'm good with anything

Cool. Running her till a time she could leave likely works. Even if she leaves because she walks into a trap :p.

I will be on vacation from the 5th of November to the 17th of November, inclusive, and will have very limited access during this time (I'm going to Disneyworld). If I am in your game, please bot me. If you are in my game, please sit tight and we will resume on my return. I will try to get as much posting in as possible prior to this time, but we are still dealing with a death in the family.

I was ok with the plan :) sorry I didn't get a post up sooner to say so. I'll get a post up tonight

Agreed 100% much preferred that way. Momentum is important in pbp

Fyi, I did see that Rizz posted in the absences thread with an unknown return date.

Gotcha. I'll move us along sooner then

I'll be a bit slow for a while - my Dad had a heart attack so I've been a bit distracted - I am around but won't necessarily be overly consistent currently.

Okay. I hope he is recovering well.

Definitely up to keep playing. Enjoying my sassy but currenttly useless cleric :p When the undead eventually start arriving, we'll be ready.

Assuming it's rolling hp?

Lootsplit, can't remember if broached subject befire. Would people prefer claiming stuff they want then everything else gets sold, and then the gold is split equally? Or for the gold to be split based on what was claimed. (Basically trieds to balance things a little fairer for builds that don't tend to claim much lootwise like casters. I also tend to use it in games where there are shy players who are worried to stake claims, though don't think we have that problem currenttly.)

I'm happy either way, or some random 3rd option. I am also happy to be loot consolidater, and equally happy for someone else to be/it to be shared.

I vote for people claiming stuff they want then everything else gets sold, and then the gold is split equally.

I'm glad to be along for the ride and am very interested to continue long term. Thanks for running it, Qralloq!

re: loot splitting, I have no strong opinions on this, but LoM if you want to be the sacrificial lamb loot consolidater, I'm good with that. I think the latter of the two options you presented is the more 'fair' route and would support that (you're right, it would be more fair to casters and such in the long run).

..Being sensible it is. While all for rolling normally not when I have no con or fcb health :P

The next section will be a little more RP before you return to the necropolis.

But we should talk about the pace of the game, and anything that isn't working as good as it can. Are there things we can tweak to improve it going forward?

Sounds great!

I'll give it some more thought, but one thing that might help is regarding traps.

If we set a marching order in these areas and set an expectation that Iseret is going to search for traps conditionally upon approaching any new area or interacting with any container for the first time, might we shift Trap Detection rolls to have the GM roll automatically? This would allow anyone to indicate where we're heading next, then the GM can respond with the approach and description of what happens without a pause to wait for a roll.

These trap-heavy areas can be rough, but so can real life. For PbP, gating party movement progression behind a single player can be detrimental to pacing and flow, though I understand this idea takes away some of WhtKnt's agency - if we have any disagreement there, I can understand and am happy to keep on as we are :)

Otherwise, I think pace has been decent overall on this game. I think it would benefit for sure from having at least 1 new active player aboard.

I agree with Cinder.

Are we going to wait for chunky04 to come back or are we going to open a Recruitment Thread before we continue with the dungeon crawl?

Hello everyone! I'm the replacement guy. For those who don't know, I'm a complete beginner to Pathfinder. Currently I'm reading the rulebook and trying to understand how the game works, how can I build a character etc. I'll probably have some questions when I start building the character but at first a few preliminary questions:

1- How much time do I have? I see that there are already forty posts on part 2, so I'm assuming you have started playing the second part of the campaign. I don't want to interrupt the flow of the game so if there is even a loose limit I will comply with it.

2- In the game forums which threads you thinkI should read? It would be tedious and probably unnecessary to read all the posts but if you give me some initial info it would be great.

3- In the recruitment post I learned that the player I'm replacing was playing a wizard. Do I have to create a wizard (or arcane character in general) as well? How is the group dynamics right now? I think the character I'll create would fit better if I have a sense of how the adventure went, what is the relationship between characters in the group etc.

4- Lastly, I'll look into this campaign more but I have very little idea on the story. How will my character enter the campaign? Will we assume he was just there all along?

Any other additional info you can give me is appreciated :)

Bernard is a Old Scholar and Wizard. He lived a clustered live in Absolom university and is our employer. To be honest, he knows A LOT of stuff. He has a huge bonus in all the knowledge skills and is an expert in languages, but he isn't very useful in combat.

But in pathfinder knowledge can be used to discover a creature stats and vulnerabilities. This can be crucial in some combat situations.

But as we said in the recruitment post you don't need to build a full Arcane Caster. We can accommodate any char.

Hi Ireneoffunyes!

We're currently just chilling in a tavern after our first delve into a tomb, so I'd say you have time. I suspect this may also be a way you can join (though Qralloq may have a different plan). Right now we are one of several adventuring groups exploring the tombs of the city. The sites are being allocated by lottery. If Bernard announces he's leaving we'll likely just look for a new member, and your character could be looking for a group, having maybe been late arriving to the city so missed all the previous matching up.

Bernard arrives in Wati is a roleplaying thread of the group meeting up. You can see some of the character dynamics there, though not all the characters (Esme, Gethean Bernard and Herc.) Be warned there is a bit of a 'noodle incident' in there, however how the characters dealt with it afterward does again show off some personality.

The Lottery and Tomb of Aktentepi up to actually get into the tomb will give some background info, and more characterization. In the tomb is a lot more dungeon crawly and can possibly skipped

The current thread is more roleplaying, a bit of ethics discussion, and drinking.

A wizard isn't completely necessary. We do have some arcane casting in the more of Jaware. It could be useful, as could someone with knowledge skills as he was our knowledge guy. At the same time don't feel you have to be pushed into a role - there are other classes that can fill the knowledge gap (bard or skald for example) or we can just handle it as a group. (We already have a decent amount of religion which is the important one for undead)

We have:
Khadi (myself), a playful/mischievous/possibly annoying to some duskwalker Cleric of Khepri (Sun God of Labourers, with a mischievous streak), who while growing up around worshippers of Pharasma (Goddess of Life and Death, very anti undead), prefers to care for the individuals of the city, especially the workers. Feels its her destiny to fight and protect people from undead. She is very channel and healing focused, to the point she actually is more charisma focused than normal for a cleric (Who's casting stat is wisdom). She does have knowledge planes and religion, and is squishier than a wizard - Absolutely useless in combat at the moment bar healing, but should touchwood start to shine when undead show up, and when she gets even more healing capabilities. Also quite diplomatic due to her archetype.

The others may give better intros of their characters but -
Tabat (C1nder) - Paladin of Horus. Fights in melee, is a tank, can do extra stuff vs undead. Also good at diplomacy and knowledge religion.
Iseret (WhtKnt) - Rogue, finds our traps, also a frontline fighter, and skill monkey. (Not sure what skills)
Jaware (Surfer) - Magus archer. Shoots magic arrows, and has access to arcane spells, but not as well as a wizard/arcanist.

Group dynamic we are all still getting used to one another. Khadi and Tabat seem to start having some camaraderie due to both being followers of old sun gods.

Edit: Maybe worthwhile list knowledges (And others skills?) we already have to see if there are any gaps?
Khadi is Planes and Religion, other skills are heal and diplomacy

Okey. I'll read the threads in the forum when I find the time. Right now I'm thinking of playing a Druid. I'm not sure how druid's particular skills would correspond to this journey's needs but survival skills, knowledge in certain areas and crafting skills seemed appropriate. Something like an option in-between rogue and arcane.
I'll complete the character sheet definitely by then. Won't be a problem.

By the way, is there an equivalent of D&D Beyond in Pathfinder where I can just select the necessary stuff for characer creation and see the outcome? I'll stick with basic rules builds probably so that won't be a problem but if I have to manually fill in the sheet that will be tedious and I'll definitely miss some stuff.
Okay, will consider that.

Edit: I'm editing the post so as not to spam. What level are other characters and would I scale my characters in accordance with them or would I just start from the beginning?

Pathbuilder, I use for 2e, no idea how good the 1e version is. Its a phone app, not sure if 1e version has a browser option.

I have access to something called herolab (very expensive if you buy all in one go, the group of us who use it built ot up over a few years). I would be happy to plug stuff in for you and get a sheet out of it.

If you are looking at druid for survival and skill, I will also point out a ranger who is less reliant on being out in nature, ans you can select urban terrains, but is also more fighty than spelly, (And far better than they seem to be in 5e)

I use pathbuilder. It is very good, but some options (and books) are not completely implemented, but for the basics it is perfect. There isn’t a browse version, but you can use an emulated mobile to use it in your PC. I think it is just better to use the app. We are at level 2.

I may add that all the wild character classes have Urban archetypes. There is an Urban Barbarian, Urban, Ranger, Urban Druid, Urban Bloodrager and Urban Hunter.

The Hunter is a good middle ground between a Druid and a ranger and can be very powerful with teamwork feats.

I would not recommend the Urban Druid since it loses the animal companion.

Hi ereneofunyes!!!!

I'm fairly certain you'll build your character to level 2, as that's where we are.

Do you have the player's guide? It gives a VERY good rundown of what the game is about and pointers for viable class options. You can find it HERE for free. For example, it recommends the Desert Druid or Serpent Shaman druid archetypes for that class, which might fit more thematically.

A little about Tabat: He is an Aasimar but those non-human traits are subdued in most cases. He presents mostly as human with the only consistent indicator that something may be different being his bright, golden eyes that almost shine in the dark. He wears bright, silver and gold colored armor, a shield adorned with a scarab, and carries a khopesh into battle. He aims to be as radiant as the sun, to treat everyone with the measure of respect they deserve and protect those he can.He is decent at hitting things, taking hits, Knowledge (religion), diplomacy, and DESTROYING EVIL! Eventually he will have a mount (probably a camel).

idk how good it is, but there may be an app you can get called Pathbuilder - it might be garbage, or it might be good, I haven't tried it myself, but have heard of it.

EDIT: Good to see SurferofSaragar's short review of Pathbuilder for 1e above! I might give it a try.

I don't use an android phone so unfortunately I can't use Pathbuilder and its web version only supports second edition sheets. However, after a ton of Youtube videos, some basic but lacking character generators and reading of rulebook, I think I managed to understand the hard part. I haven't looked at equipment buying, though. Do you have any suggestions on that? How should I proceed?

At lvl 2, unless Qralloq has a different plan, you'll probably have 1,000GP to spend on gear. This is going to be subjective to your class, but a good place to start is a Class Kit, found HERE

For example, the Druid's Kit is only 14gp and includes: animal feed (5 days), a backpack, a belt pouch, a blanket, a flint and steel, holly, mistletoe, an iron pot, a mess kit, soap, a spell component pouch, torches (10), trail rations (5 days), and a waterskin.

These kits are typically less expensive than buying the pieces ala carte.

So I won't be using starting wealth coming from class and instead get 1000 gp's? Also, are there any restrictions on what I can and can't buy?

So, to update you all: I've focused on character creation today and how to set up skills etc. I'll look at the campaign-specific book you suggested and be done with it today. Tomorrow, I'll start building the character for real, with all the equipment shopping and details. I'm still reading the corebook of course but some things I'll have to learn on the road.

Typically: yes to the 1k gp, no re: restrictions - but Qralloq may have a different thought, so I'll defer to him for confirmation.

I would definitely wait on Qralloqs, as a party we have been keeping a fifth loot split, so you may come in on 1st level wealth but then get that.

Oh, great point!

I have no problem with an extra 1000 gold to our party. As I said earlier, I'm less preoccupied with equality then with having a well-equipped team. I know most of us have 900 gp (me included), with some of us having more due to having claimed equipment. But that will not do any difference in the long run.

Well we can divide chunkys lot between us or keep it as party share.

That is a option. The problem is how to roleplay this.

For me party treasure is like a bar bill, as long we don't have anything really unjust, the important is that everyone had some fun.

I've decided to go with a ranger and I see that my skill rank is "6 + Int modifier per level". Since my Int modifier is +1, it means that I get to spend a whopping 14 ranks on my skills, right? (provided that I cannot spend more than my level in a specific skill, in this case 2) It just seemed a lot.

That IS correct - pretty good number of skill points :) What race did you pick?

Half-elf. Coincidentally, after I picked this race-class combination, I've found a Youtube video that describes how to create that exact character in Pathfinder 1e and explains in detail how to fill the sheet. In the video he picked the Skill Focus feat and added an additional feat of his choice. How does that work? I don't remember seeing anything like that in class or race explanations.

Okay cool - keep in mind that everyone at level 1 chooses a favored class as well. Any time, including 1st level, you gain a level in your favored class you get an additional HP or skill point. So if you go with skill points, you could potentially start with up to 16 skill points!

Half-elves get the racial trait 'Adaptability', which gives them the Skill Focus feat for free at level 1. In addition, all characters get 1 feat of their choice at level 1.

Thanks for the info! But I have another question. I thought the class I choose in the beginning is my favored class. Do I have to choose one in addition to Ranger? Or can I choose Ranger as my favored class as well? How does that work?

Also, I'm trying to add weapons to GP sheet but it doesn't accept. I don't see an Attack Bonus stat in d20PFSRD so I don't fill that, that's why it doesn't accept. Is information on d20PFSRD lacking or should I just write 0 in these cases?

Sorry for spam posting but I guess I'm done with the character. I made the sheet public so you should be able to see it from here. If you have the time, can you check the sheet and review it for me? I've bought armor, weapon, shield and basic kits. I've looked at your characters also to see if I missed anything. Do I need additional gear before starting?

And as level 2 ranger you get another feat from your combat style.

Okey. With the huge help of LightOfMidnight and the aids of others from the thread, I've finished my character and submitted it for the game. Now it is up from GM to approve it if there is no problem and continue the game where it was left off. I hope I'll fit in nicely and we'll have a nice and fun game.

I have entered the scene. I realized I have not explained what kind of a character Abenor is. Much like me who is eager to learn Pathfinder and venture into this adventure with you, Abenor is also known for his eagerness and over-optimism. He has a good heart (Chaotic Good obviously) but he can be selfish as he fails to assess how his actions may affect others in certain situations or if the judgment he made is good enough to act upon. I made a background story with Khadi and left it open, LightofMidnight is free to expand the story or leave it altogether as it's just an opener. For his background, he was one of many, many children of his disinterested and self-obsessed family, thus he cut his ties with them a long time ago. He is used to taking care of his own and never forms a permanent bond with a place or a person. When he feels he has become too attached to a place, he quickly leaves there and never returns. He learned this adventure while he was going through such a phase. In general, he is a light spirited person.

Awesome start, glad you joined us!

I thought I could use some combat experience before we delve into undeads :) Although, if I unknowingly broke some rule with that question, like there is a strict no fight policy in the tavern and people would look at me strange, I’ll totally accept the consequences.

Okay, so how will this work? Should I roll initiative? I'll already have drawn my sword since this is an agreed fight but how do we proceed after that?

I added the rolls you wanted. I think when I uncheck the minor edit box, it sends you a notification even when you read the first version of the post. Am I correct? If it's indeed like that than I won't post here to notify that I've edited it in the future.

It should do that, but I don't see a notification on the front page.

Maybe I couldn't click it or forgot it. I edited the post again to check. Do you see a notification this time?

Actually, it marked your post as unread, so that was good. Just not a notification per se.

Thank you! I think it went great, too. I'm justvery happy I win, otherwise I would have to do extra work to compensate my failure...

Yes, it was one-on-one and not a real fight, technically, so it was like a simplified combat. For now, I only have one question related to combat in general. I think attack of opportunity is a great tool in combat that can be extremely effective if used correctly, both in D&D and more so in Pathfinder. My question is: how do I understand if I can use an attack of opportunity? I mean, we don't use a grid page here also, should I just ask that if the opponent is in my range of attack?

It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for any one of us to mention it, if it stands out as being a possibility based on the description of the scene. To be quite fair, there are so many fiddly things to keep track of during Pathfinder combat, it's easy to miss something like an attack of opportunity prompt, so we all help each other out.

Okay great then. I'll definitely have more questions in the future, especially when we level up and I get to make spells.

Since we are talking about Attacks of Opportunity and learning combat it is important to point a few things:

Power attack: we are using THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM house rule. In this rule it is stated that Power Attack is "a combat option for any class with at least +1 BAB". The original say you must have at least a STR 13 to use power attack. The GM has the final say about this, but I think it would be better if we get rid with the STR 13 prerequisite.

Feint: Feint is a standard action that provokes opportunity attacks. So normally it is not possible to feint and attack in the same round, even if you attack more than once per round, since a full attack is a full round action (attacking with two weapons is a full attack).

To avoid the opportunity attack THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM house rule uses the Deft Maneuvers feat that is not free. And it is possible to feint as a immediate action using the swordplay style feat tree.

I would like add that the RULE OF COOL must apply in this scene, since it was very cool.

On power attack the way I have always read it is the str prereq is gon, as the feat doesn't exist anymore - every character with a +1 bab has the option to take the penalty and gain the bonus regardless of str.sane for combat expertise and int. If this is not how Qralloq read it then its my fault, I told Irene to ignore the str prereq.

Feinting doesn't provoke an AoO (It's not actually a combat maneuver, however the feat tax rules throws it into deft maneuvers, the one thing that winds me up about it) What improved feint did originally was let you do it as a move action, and be a prereq for two weapon feint - Which may be a viable option if you want to do it more often.

I've interpreted power attack and combat expertise the same as LoM.

Agreed that feint does not prompt AoO. It says so in the second paragraph of its description on Aon : https://aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?Name=Feint&Category=Special%20Attacks

The Deft Maneuvers feat, making feint a move action instead, makes feinting a lot of fun for characters with sneak attack.

You are all right. Feint does not provoke AoO. My mistake. I think since Deft Maneuvers is a substitute to Improved Feint it is right to assume (as a house rule) that it allows to feint as move action.

Is everything okay? I realized there hasn't been any posting for the past 3 days.

I have a question on Knowledge skill. My character is proficient at dungeoneering, geography and nature. Does that work like the nature-survival distinction in D&D5 where the former is more like "weird, this animal supposed to be hibernating right now" or "this plant helps you sleep" and the latter is more practical, following tracks etc. So, for example, when I roll good on a dungeoneering check, what kind of outcome would I have? More theoretical or more practical? It is a sub-skill of Int so I'm guessing the former but I wanted to be sure.

Theoretical, so yeah it would be seeing if you know things about caverns, spelunking etc.

The major use of most knowledges in pathfinder is identifying creatures, and identifying weaknesses, special abilities etc.

Dungeoneering will get in for on Oozes and Aberrations (weird wibbly things, like mimics, rompers and eldritch creatures)
Nature identifies fey and animals.
Geography is one of the few that doesn't identify creatures.

Okay thanks, I understood. Here's another (probably useless) question. Unlike D&D, in Pathfinder when you hit a natural 20, it's not automatically a critical hit, you need to roll again and hit again for the first roll to be a critical hit. If you succeed, use both damages and if not, only use the first damage. What if (this question applies to D&D as well) your secon roll is also a nat 20? Considering how reluctant Pathfinder is when it comes to aditional damages, bonus attacks etc, I doubt the answer is "another chance at critical hit, roll a third dice", but still I wondered.

In a sense - You don't need to roll damage with the second attack roll, just if the crit is confirmed you roll damage again, possible multiple times depending on the crit modifier of your weapon. Most times it is x2, but some weapons have x3, or even x4.

If you roll 20 again nothing happens in official rules. (In my house games we have the rule that a nat 20 followed by a nat 20 is max damage, but that is definitely a house rule)

The other thing to note: Some weapons 'threaten' a critical hit on more than just a 20. Your shortsword for example has 19-20 as its threat range, so on a 19 you would also roll a confirmation roll to see if you hit. There is also a feat and weapon quality that can boost the threat range.

Thanks for answering these LightofMidnight. Agree with all of that.

May be out of scope of our game but before I joined this game I remember looking at a Pathfinder 2e game here and considered joining but then I decided not to. Today I realized that the GM of that game is LightOfMidnight, so as a player who is currently playing both (and probably many more), which one do you prefer and what are the main differences between them in your opinion?

I usually try to play the latest versions of ttRPG systems as they are both more popular (thus more people are playing) and they are usually optimized for more accessibility an ease of play. But PF2e is relatively new (2019?) and it did not settle among the players that much, as far as I understand. I've read something about a three step action mechanism which sounded interesting but don't know much about it.

If you don't mind me chiming in, this is something I'm really interested in. My 2-cents -

PF1e has a ton of material available from multiple years of development. This is both its greatest strength and greatest flaw, IMO, as the huge variety of options can make things confusing while also allowing great variety when it comes to character and system options.

PF2e continues the story beats and maintains the Golarion world setting, which is wonderful. Things like combat actions and inventory control is much more streamlined. Combat is different - more mobile and less forgiving - as far as I can tell with my experience so far. Character creation is still very fun and there are a lot of options already. PF2e's greatest weakness that I've seen people point out is that its not PF1e and lacks the crazy amount of customization, though I have a feeling it'll get there eventually.

I was just referring to my incredibly bad roll but thanks for the explanation.

C1NDER, yeah it is kind of interesting because Pathfinder kind of started as a way to continue the spirit of D&D 3e if I'm not mistaken and after over years people are still clinging to it. I get why they form such strong connections with thhe game though. It is very smart in lots of ways and there are always new things to learn, the detail level is amazing.

So I actually have only just started playing 2e, and that game is my first attempt to run. It's a lot smoother and streamlined, and simpler, however that does limit character options, but it still has lots compared to other games like 5e.

Pathfinder is based of 3.5 (Don't ask me the difference between that and 3) which yes was often considered to be a clusteff of rules and complexity, but a lot cling to it as 5e in comparison is very simple (And we don't talk about 4e :P)

2e is to pathfinder was 5e is to 3.5, but still be a lot of characterizing options and options for variations.

I do like 2e and the 3 action system is great as it lets you not sit there and decide between several actions etc. However 1e and it complex mutated monstrosity of rules where you can do about what you want if you dive into supplements will always hold a place in my heart. (Seriously I once built a merfolk on a tidepool dragon, among several other things)

Sorry, I think I was a little rude.

As for pathfinder 1e versus 2e, I would say 2e runs better and smoothly at a real time game. I was the GM of my old group run of Age Worms using pathfinder rules back in 2011. I remember feeling exhausted and a headache in the last few sections. Too many details.

I would have to agree, that even with PF2e being quite new, it already feels like it has a lot more flavor and customization over D&D 5e. PF2e is growing on me the more I play it.

Aside from that...I'm running a Strange Aeons game which deals with fear and haunts a lot, so I have a question about the nature of haunts that relates to what we just ran into.

More for curiosity than anything - as haunts replicate effects of spells, and most 'fear' spells are necromancy, would Tabat's +2 to saves against necromancy spells apply to a haunt like this? I feel like, though they replicate spells, haunts are intended to be different, so I'm guessing 'no'. Curious what all your thoughts are though.

I would say if it directly say 'as this spell' then all tags of the normal spell, including necromancy, would count. If no spell is mentioned then no I believe.

I was also going to ask a similar question if haunts count as undead as I can't recall off the top of my head and I have this -Fun fact Tabat will be immune to haunts from next level, as they all count as fear effects.. even if the haunt is meteors falling from the sky re-enacting Starfall.
However I have known DMs, especially in horror games to alter it to immunity fear granting say a +4 vs haunts instead .

Thanks for sharing that!
The first thing the source material for Haunts says is they are a half-way point between a trap and an undead. It specifies that spells such a Detect Undead and Hide from Undead work against haunts, holy water has an effect on them, and they are damaged by positive energy - I personally would be hard-pressed to say a haunt would not count as an 'undead' in any most circumstances. Now, whether the effect of the haunt counts as a 'SL' or 'Su' abilities is where I'd see the problem - those are specific to creatures afaik and are always labeled as SL or Su

For my original question, seeing the text of the haunt, I actually think Tabat's +2 against spells from necromancy school would kick in, since the effect says everyone is affected by cause fear, which is a specific spell in the necromancy school.I didn't realize that about Immunity to Fear and haunts, LoM! Pretty cool :D

So what’s the exact order in which we’ll attack? With the modifier I know Abenor rolled 16 but what of others’ totals?

In whatever order you post. For play by post, I don't care to enforce a strict order between players.

Why did you roll initiative then? To figure out when the creature attacks?

Typically that's why, yes. This was a poor example because the creature beat us all, but typically what you'll see is, gor example if Tabat had beat the creature, our GM would have had me go first. Then he would post the narration and the creature's actions, then he would open it up for wveryone (including Tabat) to go.

Just to let everyone know, I have a convention this weekend that I help run (I'm over the gaming hall), so from today until Monday, my responses might be slow, or even non-existent. I will try to check in daily, but I make no promises.

Me again. I want my character to be able to throw something accurately. Since I didn't buy a bow, it'll be a non-weapon. Which skill can I use to try something of this nature? I thought about Profession, specializing him in throwing things but that would either be not likely (I don't exaactly know the extents of the Profession skill) or unwise because I would throw away one skill only for a specific scene. Any thoughts?

I think this depends. If you want to throw something accurately in combat, its going to be a dex-based attack roll. If outside of combat...GM rules otherwise. If a heavy item, maybe athletics. Light item, acrobatics?

Tbh as both a player and DM I've always used dex rolls both in and out of combat. (Though there is an item that let's you use strength)

Whether or not this is actually the rule I don't know. Always assumed it was. Only now am I thinking about it. 1e doesn't have athletics, and professions tend to be more knowledge based, but If someone had professions athlete I may let them use it.

o.0 YOU'RE RIGHT, don't know what I was thinking.

I realized I had to pick another favoured class becasue I'm a half-elf. Since I am already a level 2 Ranger, does that mean I get to choose it when I take another level and use it on my second favoured class? And can I choose Unchained Rogue, dear @Qralloq? I've done some research and it has some real cool benefits in later levels.

Let me get one thing straight. What is the difference between multiclassing and having two favored classes when you play a half-elf? Is it that if you're multiclassing, you only get the class benefits of the your additional classes but when you have two favored classes, let's say, you gain those class benefits again and in addition you can invest +1 hp or +1 skill rank (when you take a level on that class, of course)?

Let me exemplify. My character level is 2 now and Ranger level is also 2. When I take another level, let's say I have chosen Unchained Rogue. Since I get to choose two favored classes, now my character level is 3, I'm a level 2 Ranger and level 1 Unchained Rogue and I get all the level 1 benefits of Unchained Roge, plus I get to choose either to take one hp or one skill rank (both for Ranger and Unchained Rogue).

If I wasn't a half-elf and just multiclassing, above conditions would still be the same, except that I only would do plus one hp or skill rank thing for Ranger, not Unchained Rogue.

Is this correct?

Pretty much yeah. It's quite minor or irrelevant in most characters but in some builds where a large mount of levels are taken in both it gcan net back a decent amount of hp/skill ranks (or th race specific bonus)

I will say now though be careful on the multiclassing. It's not inherently bad, just be aware iteans slowing access to later stuff in the primary class (especially if you end up getting an animal companion). Sometimes it can be worth it though. (A friend of mine once made a very effective ranger druid combo.)

Yeah, I understand that stakes are quiet high at this but level 3 Unchained Rogue's can add their Dex modifier to damage rolls as well, which is pretty neat actually. Thanks for answering.

That is fair :P

Be aware there is a weapon enchantment that does the same, but of course costs money, especially for two weapons.

There is also a feat chain, but I think for two weapon fighting takes 3 feats? Okay there is but its increases the penalties so is not necessarily the best option. Its slashing grace + two-weapon grace

Gonna jump here so as not to clog up the game thread - >While a great idea on the rope, would take a few action/turns to complete. grabbing the rope would be a move, as would cutting etc Still if its all we have.

As far as aware Acid Splash wouldn't work on a swarm, as its single target, but you speak of a controversy Surfer?

It is just that in the Kingmaker PC game it work. And the game designers decided to keep on Wrath of the Righteous. And it makes senses that .acid splash would damage a swarm. In 2e I understand that this kind of spell dameges swarms.

I have regular torches (10 of them actually). Would that count? I understand that it may take more than one turn but canI do it?

Allright then I'm out of options. I'll edit my last post right now accordingly.

Okay I edited my post. Hope I made a clever choice with Aid. Btw, I just realized I didn't ask if I can edit my post. If I can't we can just assume that I sat there do nothing for the turn.

Are we waiting for something? It feels like ages since I posted here and I couldn't find a reason that it's my turn to post and everybody is waiting (I suspected that for a moment, yeah :D ).

Thanks for the bump.

I quite like that. I've always really liked Paizo's art.

WOW. He was fun!

Ah thats a shame. Today seems to be the day of players dropping out of games for me...

Happy with starting with the recruitment of another. Guessing there's no harm continuing while waiting to get to a good moment to

Yeah, that's a shame, he was a really fun part of the group and will be missed.

Also okay with me to bring in someone new! The more the merrier :)

I'm also in favor of a new player. Or even more then one.

I'm good with a replacement, though I am sad to see Ireneofunyes go. Still, I understand about personal problems. Speaking of personal things, this weekend (Saturday) marks 34 years with my beloved wife, so I'll be taking the weekend off. Please feel free to bot me if necessary.

34 years! That is quite the distance, congrats and enjoy your weekend!

Excellent!

Yay! Looking forward to it!

Hey Qralloq, how did you do this NPC post like this?

https://gamersplane.com/forums/thread/23839/?p=1188381#p1188381

I am not entirely satisfied in creating multiple NPCs character sheets, only to use have to create multiple posts for dialogue between different NPCs and the party simultaneously.

You just need a link to the portrait in the internet somewhere. Here's the code for that part of the post:


If you post as Player, it will put the NPC portrait as your own avatar. But if there is more than one, or you've posted as a GMPC like I did then it puts the portrait inline with text wrapping.

Thank you! This is so much less time-intensive for me as a GM than doing my prior process.

You can pset them up as snippets attached to a sheet that makes it quite quick to insert. I'm playing a changling with past lives so they have some set forms they swap between and the above is very useful to show who the yare speaking as.

You paralyzed folk, just chat amongst yourselves while the eggs hatch.

Yeah Vargouilles can tpk parties if rolls are low enoughvs that scream.. I nearly killed a group of lv6's with 2 a whole back just because everyone rolled low except a non-martial. Thankfully that character was a bit more competent than Khadi :p

I've installed the "fantasy" theme, a brand new addition to the growing suite of features on Gamersplane.com. These themes have to be: 1) enabled in a game (done) and 2) enabled in your computer browser. To enable it, you need to click the Install Scripts link at the bottom of this post. You may also need to install the browser Extension "Tampermonkey".

I don't think that this won't work on your mobile device. If you don't install it, you won't miss anything. All that it does is change the formatting of posts a little bit.

Sorry you're having such a brutal time, ianXian. Hope it gets better.

IanXian, I encourage you to seek help, even if only someone to talk to. As someone who lives with depression himself, I can honestly say it helps. If you need someone to lend an ear, keep their mouth closed, and not judge, feel free to PM me. Please take care of yourself. I lost a friend to depression a few years ago. I've no wish to do it again.

IanXian - I echo what the others have said. I'll add that you don't have to apologize for missing a beat in a game like this, we all know that life slows us down sometimes.

Beyond all else, take care of yourself.

Otherwise, congrats on level 3 everyone!

I sincerely hope things improve for you in the near future IanXian.

Hate to be like this but alas I must step away from this game. Thanks for letting me play

Good luck ianXian. I really hope things improve for you, and if you decide to return, think of us. Your spot at the table will remain.

My postings and responses will be somewhat delayed for the next few days. My brother committed suicide on Thursday and I just found out today. I need some time to process this, so don't panic if responses are slowed.

I have trouble even imagining how horrible that is. Please take whatever time you need, seek what support you need, and give what help you can to your family.

Hugs to you and your family for what they are worth. Thats awful. Echoing Qralloq and if you just need someone to lend an ear, I and I'm sure others are around.

Oh WhtKnt :( I'm so saddened to hear this. I couldn't possibly imagine losing someone like that, that's really terrible. Happy to lend an ear if you ever need to talk, but otherwise just take care of yourself and your family. Your friends at GP will be here when you're ready.

My prayers go out to you and your family, @WhtKnt.

I'm assuming we're hanging back a bit to give WhtKnt some time.

How is everyone else doing? What other fun games are you playing in right now?

Screams into the void.

Having a time right now. Not as bad as whtknt but also not a fun time.

Carry on. I'm good. Thank you all.

WhtKnt, glad you're doing alright - I can't imagine the healing process you have in front of you.

LoM - hope everything settles down for you soon :)

It's not enviable. Yesterday, we cleaned out his storage facility. He stated in his note that everything was to go to me, and no one has contested it. Still, a lot of memories.

Thank you, everyone, for letting me join this game.

Unfortunately, I will be bowing out. It has been a pleasure, folks! You all are awesome!

Hey all. I'm not sure that I'm all that interested in another recruitment and so forth. I'll suggest that we shut 'er down here.

That's a shame, as really enjoy the game and Khadi, but I definitely appreciate the drain constantly having t o find new people is, and in the end it ultimately your choice.

Yeah, that's a bummer. I understand if the interest isnt there though. I really enjoyed playing Tabat and will look forward to saving him for another run at this AP.

Before you leave, perhaps we can salvage this.

Would you all care to continue with a GMPC rounding out the party? C1nder has suggested that, and if we don't need to recruit, then I'm certainly happy to continue with you three solid players.

100% I'm in

Definitely in!

My rule for a GMPC is that they don't make decisions, and only roll skill checks if the primary PCs fail. That leaves the game solely in your hands.

Assuming @WhtKnt is in favor of that, what would you like for a fourth PC?

There are three still in the game from long gone players:
- Jaware, Magus (Eldritch Archer)
- Bernard, Wizard (Scroll Sage)
- Gethean, Slayer (Vanguard)

Or we could make a new one.

I'm in favor of continuing if it won't present too much of a strain for you, Qralloq. I like the idea of GMPCing Jaware.

I'm happy with whatever Cinder and WhtKnt prefer. Int for failed knowledge checks would be good..Jaware would also provide some damage, seeing as Khadi already has none :P That or bernard for some wizard blasting.

I will throw out a melee could help Iseret with more flanking options,

I think Jaware is a good choice. He has a good mix of damage, good int, and if nobody else is trained in kn: arcana he can fill the gap there too (maybe more knowledge skills the party is missing as we level?)

Perfect in my book! Thanks for keeping us going, Q :)

I am going to Disney World from tomorrow through the 12th of November. Please bot me as necessary and I will try to check in from time to time.

Nice, have a great time. I was there in 2008 and we had a blast. Stayed in Kissimmee and rented a car to hit the big stops.

oh fun! Have a good time WhtKnt

This is actually our annual trip. My wife's eye doctor is in Tampa and she has to see him yearly and we figured that since Tampa is so close to Orlando...

We'll be going again in December, that time with friends of ours.

But yes, I fully intend to enjoy myself! Thanks!

All, my father-in-law is in the ICU with heart trouble. Please forgive me if I miss a beat and if I am slowing things down too much, go ahead and bot me, please. I don’t know how long this will be, but I expect at least through the weekend.

Of course, and good luck with him.

My own father had something similar the weekend before last, but thankfully it turned out to be more minor than his heart.

He was, coincidentally, at the heart doctor yesterday and fainted due to low blood pressure. His heart stopped briefly and they restarted it and took him to the ER for admission. He coded twice more last night and was revived. Currently, he is stable and has a temporary pacemaker in place. They will be putting a permanent one in tomorrow. Then he just has to overcome aspirational pneumonia and get his kidneys back in order.

That sounds really rough - wishing you all the best so he pulls through it quick and easy.

My father-in-law passed away at 2:04 am this morning. I will be taking a few days to be with my wife during her time of grief and will return shortly. Thank you for understanding.

I'm so sorry. My thoughts are with you both.

Oh no 😞 sorry for your loss, Whtknt. I wish you and your wife the best during the grieving process.

I've been a bit swamped, but I'll get a post up on here soon

I'll have Iseret updated soon. The funeral was today, so we are rather busy with family in town.

Hit point roll for Iseret.

Let's go shopping!

And ready.

Khadi has the best diplomacy score of any of us - LoM, you want to roll that for us to see what kind of pricing we get?

Happy to be the main roll. You and Iseret could try and assit (I think you might automatically?)

Sure! I have a +9, so it's an automatic success for Aid Another. Good call.

EDIT: Great Diplomacy roll, LoM!

Sorry for the delay. The next part of the adventure is a bit tricky to run in a live game, and perhaps more so in PBP. I think I've got a handle on it, and I'll just railroad you through it.

@WhtKnt I doubt you'll fall for his shenanigans, but be warned that Jomsviking loves the kineticist build mostly because he doesn't actually know the rules of pathfinder and thinks he has a twink build.

Also, he's notorious for attempting to hog the spotlight on himself by finding ways to exclude the other characters, usually by convincing NPCs to talk to him alone.

lmao, Q - you talk to naatkinson about that, or other experience?

Literal last post in naat's Rise of the Runelord's game where Joms's Kineticist is addressing an NPC:
I will say this much - naat has had to correct/fix many misunderstandings about Jom's Kineticist build at level 1 because Joms thought it worked a drastically different way than reality. That's just 1st level.

@WhtKnt , I don't envy you working with him on a lvl 20+ build. I do not intend to disparage the player, but do expect a lot of course correction and, uh, spirited argument on his part.

I've been in a couple games with him. In one, after a few days of him dragging off scene and then posting one-on-one with a NPC who was the obvious next quest-giver for us, I was simply RPing during this time a growing distrust of his character and what he was likely talking us out of, I just scooped up the rest of the PCs, and together we left, seeking adventure elsewhere, haha.

That sounds similar to my experience, just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

We just got out of a spirited in-character (and in discord) debate about his perspective that the enemy we captured and put in a cell should either be beat until he talks/falls in line, or just be killed. In-character we had to threaten to put him in the cell if he did any of this - it was the only way we could move on without violence against a locked-up enemy.

Thanks for the heads up. Someone else warned me about him as well. I'll give him a fair shake, but if he causes too much trouble, I'll either cut him loose or let the party handle him in their own way (heh, heh). I appreciate it, guys.

Just a heads-up: My wife is going in Friday for a hip replacement and will be down for six weeks, during which I will be handling the house. Please be understanding if I am delayed in making posts.

Thanks for the heads-up WhtKnt - wishing her a speedy recovery!

@qralloq Would you be able to allow custom sheets (And then let me swap sheets) as I've fiddled with the pathfinder custom one to make it easier to track her various bits and roll things?

Watch her know get eaten by an esobok and make that all pointless :P

Done! Go hard! I should swap Jaware's too, so it's easier to see the sheets inside the game.

I'll transfer Tabat over as well, though I may or may not wait for level 5. Thanks for allowing the sheets, Q!

I allowed two characters per player as well to make copying easier.

May we get clarification of who's turn it is? I know it's not Tabat, as he just RECKED one of the monsters, but by my reading the enemy goes next, right?

It was a little unclear how much time we had to rest. Are we at full hp / daily stuff refreshed?

I have in my mind that Tabat went to pray in solitude and his divine mount appeared to him in a vision - upon leaving, he found her waiting outside and understood her to be a gift from Horus.

I believe he used up whatever coin he had divvied out to his name at the auction, but would anyone mind terribly if he earmarks some party funds for:
- Feed (4 days worth, 2sp)
- Military Saddle (20gp)
- Saddlebags (4gp)

Also, might we look into buying some Holy Weapon Balm?

Just in pure coin we found around 71gp, I'll assume ok on the equipment above, except for the holy weapon balm (unless there is agreement from the party to get some), and the cost of the saddle, feed, and saddlebags can be taken from Tabat's cut once we have a real chance to reconcile our party's treasure and sell stuff.

His MW Longbow goes back into the party treasure too - it should be worth 375gp.

You have most of a whole day to shop in there, so go ahead if you want to make any purchases.

Think Khadi has some spare so she can lend as well if need be. Happy for a bit of holy weapon balm to be bought.

Will see if I can do a quick loot breakdown, but may be a coupe of days :p.

Iseret hit point roll for 6th

How we lookin' folks? Coming with the check out this sound?

I have a convention I am assisting in running in two weeks, so my responses will be slow or perhaps non-existent until March 4. Please forgive delays.

Oops sorry thought I had commented here. She's good, still over half resources including healing.

I don't think I've ever killed a PC with negative energy before. Seemed like there should have been a saving throw, but couldn't find any such rules.

Would the negative levels double on crit as it has, or reroll the second dice and hope?

Yeah I honestly forgot that's a thing because never had it happen before.

That's true. We have been rolling Crit damage haven't we? I'll see what that does.

Edit: rolled a 1. Tabat lives!

Yay!!! Lol ty

Tabat would like to get some rest before we continue forth - is there a place in this compound that might be safe enough? Or will we need to return to someplace else?

Rest sounds good to get rid of theos negative levels. At least the enervation ones don't need a roll.

I think we might be waiting for a decision, so how about Q12? there are beds in there? we can close it up and try to recuperate before continuing.

This is the final encounter of book 2!

oooh

oh boy! that's awesome! Time to use all those /per day abilities :D

I'm taking a short vacation without Internet access from Wednesday, 5 June until 10 June, and will be unavailable during that time.

Have a wonderful vacation, WhtKnt!!

I'm going to need a few days to process things. If I do not return, I have enjoyed the game and all of your company.

Hugs to you, and hope to see you back soon.

I may be reading too much into you last statement, but if you are feeling helpless/desperate, please reach out to someone, even if its a mental health line or similar. I'll also be happy to lend an ear if you need it.

Thanks, LoM. I am feeling very helpless, but I have a good support system with my wife and friends. I will make it through this. I won't discuss politics on here except to say that I was... disappointed.

Hope things get better, WhtKnt. Take whatever time you need.

Take care WhtKnt, it's been a pleasure and hope to see you on the other side.

Once again, my wife and I are on our way to Walt Disney World, Dec 1-6. Please bot me as necessary during that time. Thank you!

Merry Christmas! 🎄 🎁

Everyone take a Hero Point (Even though we haven't been using those, we can always start.)

Merry Christmas!

And yay MM joins the dark Heroic side

Woo! Merry Christmas and thank you!

Thank you!