OOC Conversation

Welcome to the game! I’ll have more information up tomorrow morning, but in the meantime, feel free to chat or ask questions.

Just a quick question for character creation....will we be arriving with equipment/gold?
I am assuming we decided that we wouldn't know that we're in a Game which is good ....but we do remember our lives in the real world?

Go ahead and pick your starting equipment. You won’t have it when you first arrive in the world but you’ll find it soon thereafter.

Yes, you will remember your lives in the real world. I’ll give a more detailed description of things tomorrow.

I look forward to it. :)

Alright, now that we're all here, let's start making some characters! Follow the rules as normal for creating a 1st-level character. As you are playing a version of yourself, you can either choose a background that relates to who you were on Earth or who your new persona is on Golarion. You can spend your starting gold on equipment, but you won't have access to it when you first arrive in the world. You'll appear in whatever clothes you were wearing when you pulled into Golarion from Earth, but you'll find your starting gear shortly thereafter.

Your characters will remember everything from their lives on Earth. For all intents and purposes, that Earth is the same as the one we live in, except that there is no Pathfinder roleplaying game. You will find yourselves in an unfamiliar fantasy world with magic and mystery! Exploring and learning will be part of the fun.

If anybody has a favorite part of Golarion in which they might want to adventure, let me know and I'll try to potentially work it in at some point. If not, that's okay too. I'll decide myself in that case. :)

For reference, here is what everybody listed as their character concepts in the recruitment thread:

cellarnovice: Human (Versitale Heritage) Fighter (Druid Dedication)
Drifter Dwarf: Monk
Kristian: Dwarf Fighter

It's a martial-heavy lineup, but that can be fun. :D

Are there any restrictions on ancestry or classes or anything?

No, feel free to choose anything you'd like from a first party source. Uncommon and rare choices are acceptable, too.

Just to spruce things up, I’ll modify my character concept to a Druid with a fighter dedication. With my schedule, I’ll also be submitting my character later today if that works! Looking forward to it!

@Dmbrainiac with fighter we would be a bit low on skills. I could also play a Rogue and later take the two weapon fighter archetype....I could work out a concept for that as well .....let me know what you think.

It’s your choice Kristian, whichever you think you’ll enjoy the most.

I like that answer :) I always feel like it is more important to play the character you like than party balance.

I always feel a bit overwhelmed taking on P2E character creation coming over from D&D 5E. So many choices at level 1. I'll work on it tonight after work, but might take me a bit to hammer everything out.

You're not alone in that at all. Systems I usually play are definitely simpler at the start for sure. For ancestry, I'm definitely going to play a fetchling. Classes are far more complicated, but I'm trying to narrow it down between Animist, Oracle, Exemplar, Summoner, or Witch.

If anyone is more experienced and has recommendations based on the complexity of the classes I listed, I'd appreciate it. Essentially, I want my character to be able to serve as a conduit for a supernatural force or power. Not so much a god as something more personal.

So I checked the world guide and I think Mwangi Expanse or the Cheliax region both might be a nice starting point. Again i do know only a small fraction as I mostly played homebrews and ran a couple of adventure paths. So by skimming through the World guide I chose those as they're not Absalom which is a bit overrepresented being the center of the lore.

@TheForsakenEvil: Out of those, I’d say the witch is probably the least complicated to play, followed by oracle and then exemplar.

Had to lookup what a Fetchling was :) Cool choice.

so far I've got "Monk... " just a few more details to go - LOL

If we're playing the remaster rules they made very good changes to the Oracle and the witch which makes them more streamlined and the Oracle less punishing but still complex.

There is no space for the backstory at the Pathfinder 2e character sheet.

Thanks a bunch for the information, gang! After much consideration, I've decided on Oracle with the Mystery of Flames. :)

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Yeah, I saw them and immediately knew it was my go to, haha. Edgy shadow people is absolutely in line with my interests. Class was wayyy harder to choose for me. Hopefully we can hammer out the rest without too much difficulty.

Hey All so I changed from Fighter to Rogue as I thought that we could use some skills.
So human / Rogue (Thief Racket) and I will chose the Two-Weapon fighter Archetype.
So still more martial oriented but with more stuff to do.

Druid, monk, oracle, rogue. That seems like a good balance of classes.

I'm excited to see how the party dynamic plays out! Just submitted my character, eventually decided on a dromaar druid.

Character approved.

For those of you who are ready, feel free to tell us a little about who your characters were on Earth and what they were doing just before being drawn into the mystic tunnel to Golarion.

Lol my PC will definitely comment on the pale one (fetchling) and the green one (dromaar) hahaha I invision mine as having no filter lol only of course as long as everyone is comfortable with it

I do have a short backstory ready whenever we are ready to start

I'm still finishing up my character. All the mechanics should be done except for spells. Still thinking on a name. Gonna need to get art too. Had a question though.
I've been using the Archives of Nethys to source all of my rules and character creation. Not sure if that's okay or not. Someone let me know if not. Anyway, this says that I would add a spell to my repertoire every time I get a spell slot. However, it goes on to say I would get two 2nd-rank spells at level 3. The table for Oracle's spellcasting says I get three 2nd-level spell slots at level 3 though. Is this a mistake or is there something I'm missing?

I use Archives of Nethys for all my rules, so that is perfectly fine.

My guess is the description for spell repertoire is incorrect. It looks like it is still based on the Legacy version of the class. You should get 3 new rank 2 spells at level 3, plus the bonus spell from your mystery.

Very good to know, thank you. Does this also mean I would start with three 1st-rank spells at level 1 rather than two? Since the class starts with three 1st-level spell slots.

Yes, it seems that way.

Understood, I'll keep working away. :)

You can always use the Pathbuilder app. It is for free and very user friendly. It will auto populate the amount of spells and skills you get. It's a good tool if you are not sure about something.

https://pathbuilder2e.com/app.html?v=93a that's the PC version

Sounds good, I'll give a short intro! My character's name is Al, and I picture him to be of medium height with a stocky build. He has medium length black hair and brown eyes. In his free time, he enjoys reading, playing video games and hiking. He believes in hard work but also proper relaxation to maintain a good balance. Despite his natural curiosity, he can be a bit obtuse at times.

On the day he was transported to Golarion, he was working his day job, which involved being on a construction site. As he arrived on the empty site that fateful morning, he notice a strange glow from behind a tarp. When he moved the tarp aside, he had no time to react as he was drawn into the mysterious mystic tunnel.

Yeah of course, I'm sure my character will also be wondering about the change in skin tone haha

Love the story

That's actually super helpful. Thank you.

It looks like everybody has submitted their characters now. I'll look them over again tomorrow morning, then I'll get the game started!

Son of a low-income, single-parent household in the southern United States, AJ had a rough upbringing. The bullying, lack of friends, and toxic family dynamics were the norm for the first two decades of his life. The five years that followed punctuated those first two decades with... nothing. He was just a NEET that sat around, played video games, played TTRPGs with his friends, and felt sorry for himself. It was an unremarkable life, but the five years that followed the five nothing years were the exact opposite. Moved out of his parents' house, got married, and aspired to be a high school English teacher. Meeting his wife turned his whole life around. Following her example was what guided AJ to discover his love for education. It would be all the better if he could inspire the next generation to not follow his mistakes. Halfway to his Bachelor's degree, bartending on the weekends, and four years into his job as a substitute teacher, life was really starting to look up, even if spinning all of those plates was incredibly stressful.

AJ was happy, awkward, and always a massive nerd. His typical hard gaze, alternative dress sense, and love for angsty music didn't make his lighthearted personality very obvious though. Friends and his in-laws told him frequently that he was a joy to be around. A couple of friends had felt comfortable enough to even come out to him as trans, which made him very happy. When asked, AJ expressed that he would feel comfortable as a man or woman. In truth, he never felt a strong attachment to any pronoun. Masculinity and femininity both excited him. However, the world was more accepting of simple pictures. A man is a man. A woman is a woman. Why go through the effort of exploring femininity when it was easier and safer to just stay in the bubble of being what he appeared to be? His friend referred to him as "gender jello". Fluid, but too lazy to move. Just slightly wobbling.

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It was the end of a long week. Friday. Close to midnight. AJ just got done closing up the bar. Two shifts. One at the high school, one at the bar. These days always had him tired and ready to get drunk when he got home. The parking lot was freezing cold from winter. Ice covered the pavement. After throwing the trash into the dumpster, he dumped himself into the car and groaned to himself. After finding a song that particularly resonated with his emo mood, he hit the road.

Just a scar
Somewhere down inside of me
Something I cannot repair
Even though it will always be
I pretend it isn't there

It was hard to see through the frosted windshield. The road was barely visible, but it was familiar. He wasn't worried. No, he was speeding. Not because he wanted to get home that badly, but because he was just enjoying driving. A part of him just wanted to drive. He didn't care about the destination. As he turned into the alley to get home, a blinding light took him elsewhere.

Another snow storm... he paused leaning on the shovel. The cold air hurt his lungs, shoveling hurt his back and knees. Through the frosted breath, he looked around the neighborhood, a nice street, good place to raise a family, good schools. But that was mostly done for him, divorced, kids all grown and doing their careers.

He still worked, computer programing, consulting mostly during the day, computer gaming at night. Kept his mind busy, but certainly not his body. Doctor kept telling him to get more exercise, but just never sort of set that way. Growing up he always joked he was short, fat, and slow - the perfect anti-athlete.

Looking around at all the snow, lots more exercise he guessed.

Slowly he shoveled... damn this was hard. He hated winter, hated the dark, hated the cold, hated the shoveling. Take it slow so you don't have a heart attack... watch the ice... what's that bright light?... icy patch... damn he was falling...

I must say - we had another snow storm and I was out shoveling. Totally waiting for the bright light to take me away :)

Haha, that’ll be me tomorrow. We’re due for 20-40cm overnight :|

I live in central Florida. Our highs today are in the mid-80s. XD

Southern Indiana here. Some snow yesterday, but it's already melting quite a bit. Nothing like the one that rolled through in early January.

Alberta Canada...just cold at the moment no more snow in the Forcast......for now

Baltimore Maryland - honestly hasn't been horrible - but I'll take none :) We are just on the edge of that North/South line. Sometimes we get rough winters, sometimes we get nothing.

Alberta Canada I've heard is beautiful country out there, but you can keep your winters. And 40cm - even after I did the math into our non-metric system - I do not want that :)

Loving the game already.

Yeah we had a couple of days with -28C (-18 F) this winter but honestly we had a very mild winter so far. Even the snow fall amount was OK.

Yea I'm in Ontario Canada, and it's a winter storm so we'll see how that goes haha

Is anyone interested in maybe having a side forum for roleplay outside the main story line ? I think it would be useful for our PC to get to know each other without stopping the main story line ....just a thought

Note to self ..posting from you phone "bad" lol I had to edit like 5 times

I usually like for RP and the plot to kinda blend together, personally. But I'm down for whatever if y'all are interested in it.

yeah it's fine ...sometimes it's good to have a sidechain but so far it's going good

Question about a Monk skill:

Inner Upheaval - I think this was previously called Ki Strike.

You focus your qi into devastating magical attacks. Make an unarmed Strike or Flurry of Blows (this doesn't change the limit on using only one flourish per turn). You gain a +1 status bonus to your attack rolls with the Strikes, and the Strikes deal 1d6 extra damage. This damage can be any of the following types of your choice, chosen each time you Strike: force, spirit, vitality, or void.

Heightened (+4) the extra damage increases by 1d6.


Does this take a separate action from the Flurry of Blows? reading it seems like it does not - just a switch you activate when you do the normal flurry action.

Yes, as part of casting it, you make your Flurry of Blows attack, so no separate action is required.

Sweet - of course if I roll like crap - it won't matter :)

@Dmbrainiac Do you want me to wait or can I do my turn and you apply it when it comes up?

Well I just finished editing my post, so everybody can act now!

sounds good

By the way, I hope everybody is enjoying the fast pace of the game so far. It shows that you all are invested in it. Of course, I don’t expect it to always be this way. Especially on weekends, when I usually am unable to post much, if at all. :)

I know I've been looking to this game first if I only have a couple of minutes to post. Been having a great time - well until about 3 minutes ago :P

@Kristian the tick attached to Dalton is off guard, so if you throw the hatchet at that one, you can get sneak attack damage.

I really enjoy it and I do enjoy a higher post frequency.....and of course i would roll a Nat1 on my flat check 😃 i guess I can kiss that Hatchet goodbye hahaha

inwas thinking about it but with a Nat1 flat check hahahaha....anyway next round

@TheForsakenEvil,@DrifterDwarf, AJ and Dalton may still act this round.

Sure - I'll put up an action. I was waiting a bit because Dalton technically went first in the round.

Makes sense. You don't need to worry too much about posting in order, though. Usually I just tell everybody to post when they're able, and then I'll sort things out in some semblance of initiative order but also erring in the PCs' favor when possible. :)

Sorry, it was a busy weekend and having some family health issues also detracted from my time. Oh but in response to earlier, yes I am enjoying the fast pace of the game.

I must have angered the dice goods 😞

Luckily, AJ’s spell stopped the bleeding already. :)

I think after that heal, Dalton is back to full. Obliteration is definitely not the best way to remove a tick :)

@cellarnovice LoL "Suburban clan" that cracked me up 😃

Haha, thanks!

So we arrived right after the war of the immortals :) I didn't buy that book ....yet :)

I know zero about PF lore - so all going to be a surprise :)

I also know nothing about the setting! Just heard it's pretty cool from a friend. So far, sounds pretty cool lol.

I picked up some of the lore from playing and DMing some of the adventure Paths and did some reading about some of the regions ...bur War of the immortals is a big change in the Lore and it came out only very recently.Does not matter really but I find it exciting that the setting is being used for homebrew ....very nice

I’ve been running Pathfinder adventure paths, modules, and Society scenarios since the books first debuted in 2007, so you might say I’m something of an expert on the setting. :D

My morning was quite stressful, going to try to decompress for a while. I hope to get a post up later today.

Damn, that's awesome! Now I'm even more excited to see where all of this goes!

And no worries at all. Real life and health comes first!

That's great! I've only started with Pathfinder 2e 3 years ago. The other 25+ years i solely played D&D lol

If this game lasts another couple weeks it will be the longest P2E game I've been in :) My past 3 attempts did not go very well. Definitely looking forward to where this goes.

Ha, well, I think this one will break your unlucky streak.

This one was great fun from the start....This one I am constantly checking to see if we can go on LOL

@Dmbrainiac - with the new knowledge of where we are - I think I'll be updating some of my original gear ideas :) Any limitations on what normal gear is available - are you just running the normal 15gp limit, but we are being gifted the gear instead of purchasing it.

I assume any unspent funds are not being given to us. Too bad none of us were deployed military with there kit on them :)

BTW - great posts from everyone - really enjoying the discussions.

Yeah, just spend your starting funds and those are your gifted equipment. They'll also give you some other supplies like tents and such.

Nice. Sounds reasonable that they would give us stuff that's useful and not some stuff that was never heard off in their area

Also i have to agreeing @DrifterDwarf i am enjoying the conversations a lot

Samesies.

How do we want to device those among us especially the potions

Two pup tents, five full waterskins, 4 weeks’ worth of rations, mosquito netting, healer’s tools, 6 vials of lesser antiplague, 3 lesser elixirs of life.

I do have medicine but no healers kit but if anyone has more that +4 in medicine they should have it

I've got Medicine at +4, but was going to buy Healer's tools as part of my starting gear.

I had purchased the standard Adventure pack - which comes with 2 weeks rations and water skin. I'm assuming the 4 weeks rations and 5 water skins are in addition to anything we purchased.

Anyone pick up a Repair Tools or have the Crafting skill?

I have almost any skill there is. So i have crafting but didn't buy any tools for that :) I needed the money for the thieves tools. But If you have a healers kit then I take the one the elves provide.
I am also thinking that the consumables are in addition to the food and drink we have

Currently on my list I have: Healing Kit and Compass.

Thing I think we might need but I cannot afford yet: Repair Kit

Couple other nice to have: Climbing Kit, Fishing Kit

Probably only need 1 of these in the group. I could drop the crossbow and pick these up if no one has picked up a repair kit.

i have a climbers kit

Hyped to get to Chapter 2! My posting frequency is going be 1 post/day and excited to see how it all turns out!

For equipment, I’m untrained in crafting but can buy the repair kit.

I also have the healing plaster cantrip, which I can use to replace a healer’s kit. Based on the spell’s text, looks like anyone can use the healing plaster I create for their medicine checks

I also have a grappling hook and 50ft. rope

@cellarnovice - Cool cantrip :) Are you going to spit in the dirt like Keyleth on CR cartoon? :) Do you have Medicine skill?

I'd spread the healing potions out a bit. Our two casters can both heal - but you never know in the moment.

@Kristian - you should take at least one of the healing potions for yourself.

Sorry, meant to write minor elixir of life instead of lesser elixir of life.

OK I take one of the elixirs of life.

Lol I was surprised how generous you where lol

This makes sense to me. Thanks for helping with distribution! I've been really busy and tired today, so item management sounded like an absolute slog.

I also bought a four-person tent during creation btw.

Sounds good! And I’ll probably won’t use spit, maybe sweat haha. I’m only +4 to medicine, so decent

I thought it would be nice to visualize our area

Nantambu our destination is on the bottom left :)

Sorry, I’ve been short on time lately. I’ll post tomorrow morning.

No worries, DM! Thanks for keeping us informed.

Can't wait.

Awesome, thanks for adding!

I don't know what the Doorway to the Red Star is, but it sounds super cool.

Ha, that, my friend, is a very high level adventure site! Perhaps you might visit it in the far-off future...

It's part of an Adventure Path if I remember correctly you have to be level 15 or so :) never played that Adventure paths but it was part of a humble bundle so I own it ...so hopefully I will either run it or preferably play it ;)

Sounds epic!

I will remember this...

Dalton is slow this fight, so maybe someone else gets chewed on :)

Don't count on it :) Novac still has 3 throwing daggers left :)

Drained
Source Player Core pg. 443 2.0
Your health and vitality have been depleted as you've lost blood, life force, or some other essence. Drained always includes a value. You take a status penalty equal to your drained value on Constitution-based checks, such as Fortitude saves. You also lose a number of Hit Points equal to your level (minimum 1) times the drained value, and your maximum Hit Points are reduced by the same amount. For example, if you become drained 3 and you're a 3rd-level character, you lose 9 Hit Points and reduce your maximum Hit Points by 9. Losing these Hit Points doesn't count as taking damage.

Each time you get a full night's rest, your drained value decreases by 1. This increases your maximum Hit Points, but you don't immediately recover the lost Hit Points.

I am assuming the antiplague potion is for a one time usage. So since I took it i will take it off my inventory

Not sure why we are gulping down antiplague - or even what antiplague is :) Assuming it is for disease.

Cool. Unless I missed something though, I thought the roll was for future suffering. Do we know we have anything yet?

You don’t know yet, but I’ll let the bonus kick in for the 24 hours after you find out you’re sick.

We don't know we have anything, but I assumed we know the bugs and stuff got into our tent based on the description. I thought it was more of a preventative rather than a curative, which is why I went ahead and used it. But I'm glad to just have it work however it made the most sense to use it.

Also, we were all supposed to get one bottle of it except for AJ and Al who got 2 cuz there was 6.

we got this from the elves 6 bottles of it

Yeah I am using it preemptivly as all the movies where there is a jungle theme people are getting all kinds of diseases from bugs

I will be out of town next week from March 16th through the 23rd. I will not have internet access during this time so I will not be able to post until I return on March 24th.

Thanks for letting us know!

Hopefully you enjoy your time away.

Thank you! I'm back from my trip now, but I'll need a bit of time to get caught back up at work and such. I'll hopefully resume posting tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest.

Welcome back.

The dreaded "return to work" seems like I'm always 3 days behind for every day which I was gone.

Looking forward to the restart, but take your time ...

are we there yet ? LOL

Welcome back! Hope catching up on everything goes smoothly. :)

Welcome back. I hope you had a good time ...

Welcome back! Hope it was a relaxing time

Sorry, it's been a busy stretch of days and my brain's a bit frazzled. I'll try to post either later today or tomorrow morning.

EDIT: Managed to make a short post.

No worries! Thanks for keeping us updated. :)

No worries 👍 we will have a lot of social standards discussions to keep us occupied 😁

No worries, thanks for the update!

Was doing some reading to make sure I understood my abilities properly. Does persistent damage not stack? For some reason, I thought it would. Like adding 2d4 persistent fire damage would make it 4d4 persistent fire damage. If not, then I'm struggling to understand the primary intended use of Foretell Harm (outside of 2 extra damage, I guess). My initial thought was that it could be used to easily double up the fire damage from Incendiary Aura at the cost of becoming cursebound.

Just trying to understand the best way to play my class. :)

Edit: Honestly, I'm generally confused about how persistent damage works in general. The rule says something about doubling or halving damage based on the results of an attack or save as normal, but what's the save? Is it the flat DC15 save to determine if you recover from it? The rule seems very vague.

Persistent damage of the same type doesn't stack, you just take the higher value.

Foretell Harm is just a little bit of bonus damage. That's why it's a free action. :)

But the aura is good because in case the enemy makes its save to end the persistent damage, you just need to hit them with another fire spell and they start taking the damage again.

Some effects that cause persistent damage allow a save to reduce how much they take. But in general, once a creature is taking persistent damage, there isn't another save to reduce that amount.

At the end of the creature's turn, it rolls for how much damage it takes. Then it attempts a DC 15 flat check to try to end it. If not, it will take damage against next turn and keep taking damage until it succeeds its flat check.

I see, I see. I suppose I just expected more from the one ability that can actually inflict the cursebound condition. I would've expected it to play more into the risk vs. reward aspect of "do big thing, but now you have to suffer a consequence". Instead it seems to be a rather minor and small part of the class, at least at this level with the Mystery I've selected.

Incendiary Aura is super good, I've got a good read on that one!
Ahh, okay. It being dependent on the wording of the effect makes a lot more sense. Great, thanks for explaining all of this!

No problem. Yes, your options for interacting with the cursebound effects are limited at level 1, but you'll get more as you level up.

What's the DC for the DC for the piercing shriek?

It's 21, so Novac got a success.

Ok i guess I am sickened 1

Lol I just realized I can't take the elixir of life as I can't ingest anything while sickened ;) I love those conditions 😅

Sheeesh, this thing is brutal. Who is the best person to heal Novac here? Also Incendiary Aura will proc on any fire damage, it doesn't just have to be mine.

Well if the amount of damage that thing deals it would probably be best to keep attacking it and hope that Novac passes his saving throws...maybe heal Dalton ...if he goes down you're in trouble...

I have the Heal spell, so we have some options. Currently debating using a two action heal for Novac (extra healing) or three action to heal everyone within 30 ft. (It would also include the monster though). Either way it’s my last spell slot so after that we duke it out haha.

Honestly mechanically I am out of the fight....even if you heal me ... I won't make much difference...so the best would be to heal Dalton. We're all level one so he might be able to take one more hit. So don't waste the heal on me but on the one who can fight ;) you can patch me up later .......if i still live

Hmm, tough situation. AJ will likely still attack and use one of her spell slots for a 1 action cast of Heal. Thanks for the input.

Lol I just realized ...32 to damage ...only 8 away from instant death ....

That would've been 2 damage away for me, haha!

Lol scarry I don't recall taking that much date at first level ever ....even the regular hit of 16 would have been enough to knock me out

This is a level 3 monster, so it's going to be a challenging fight. The dice haven't been too kind to you unfortunately, but this round both AJ and Dalton will hit due to their flanking maneuver. (The monster's off-guard AC is 17 so they both just hit!) And the creature is weak to fire damage, so it's going to take a lot of damage this round.

@cellarnovice may still act, and if he heals Novac, then the rogue may also act before the monster.

Huzzah! The cheat sheet I've been using didn't even mention flanking as a rule, so thanks Drifter!

I'm learning parts of P2E slowly. The status values are a new thing to get used to and flanking mattering. There is a whole bunch of debuff things in the system to, which I do not have a handle on yet :)

Sadly, you need an action to ready your shield, and that missing action from Slow 1 is really hurting Dalton on that front.

Lol the flanking was what Novac was doing sine day 1. Because the creature has to be off guard to him for sneak attack to work 😀

@cellarnovice thanks for the healing

Man those rolls suck

The first one was good enough!

Cool 😎 well let's try give Dalton that elixir of life

Anytime! Glad we made it through haha

It was a close one :)

Since Dalton and Novac were dying before being healed, they both now have the wounded 1 condition. If you gain the dying condition while wounded, increase your dying condition value by your wounded value.

The wounded condition ends if someone successfully restores Hit Points to you using Treat Wounds, or if you are restored to full Hit Points by any means and rest for 10 minutes.

I believe based on the description that Al's magic mud counts allows the treat wounds to be taken.

Can you treat wounds on yourself?

Yes, you can!

Treat Wounds

Thanks. Does sickened go away gradually on its own or based on this, do I need to schedule a cleansing scene for Dalton :)

And I just realized Dalton can't drink that water in the last scene, but just a sip :)

Since you're not in combat, we can assume you have enough time to keep attempting those Fortitude saves until you succeed. :D

Since we should be completely healed and resting we should lose our wounded condition and can explore the rest of the cave. We might have to close the hole that thing came in from and make sure there are not more of those things

How would you guys want to split the treasure?
Potency Cristal makes a weapon a +1 striking weapon
Shielding Salve gives you a +1 Ac and takes up to 5 points of damage
Emergency Escape gives you 40 speed

The Potency Crystal is probably best for Novac since he seems to be the one primarily wielding a weapon. He even gave it a name already!

The Shielding Salve would be in good hands for any of us, but a frontliner probably the best.

Emergency Escape I think might be best in AJ's hands. She's a squishy spellcaster, but her most powerful abilities require her to be close up with enemies. Having a way out would be good.

Open to other ideas!

Sounds good

---Potency crystal Novac
--- Shielding Salve Dalton (he has no armor as a Monk)
---Emergency Escape AJ

Is that good for everyone?

Dalton is carrying a shield though and has Shield Block - so he can pretty much duplicate the benefits of Salve. Someone else who plans to be in melee range can take it.

If I am not mistaken the circumstance bonus for the salve would stack with your shield ...so at least for one round you would have a higher AC .....I might be wrong though

Bonuses of the same type do not stack, so you can only benefit from one circumstance bonus at a time.

Definitely someone else should take it. If Dalton has 1 action, he can always raise his shield - although he seems to never have time to do it :) I'm liking the 3 action play style, you can always try something. I've got so many D&D characters with zero to do with their bonus action.

Also finding I rarely have time to get into wolf stance - might have been a poor choice for a feat. Have to see how future fights go.

As a group we probably need to see about exploring some of the debuff options. Getting our enemies to hit less and have less AC would be good.

Hmm, then perhaps Novac or AJ should take it? I'm not sure what Al's ideal range is.

Also, I do have a debuff spell, but it didn't seem very worthwhile to cast over raw damage. It only gives a -1, and only on a failed Will save. It seems more intended to debuff multiple enemies at once to get most of its value. Otherwise I don't see much value in casting it.

Yes, that spell is much more useful when fighting multiple enemies as opposed to just a single foe.

Couple of mechanical questions:

Treat Disease - can treat someone for 8 hours.

- Can that person also be sick? Since Dalton is Sickened 1 - I assume that -1 also applies to his own medicine check.

- Can that person treat more than 1 person during those 8 hours. I believe there are some feats to expand this - I just don't remember if the default number was 1 or what.

- Does the bonus from Treat Disease stack with the anti plague. I think usually bonus of the same type do not stack.

Thinking Dalton could treat himself, but would take a -1 on the medicine roll. If he passes, he would get the bonus to the fort save, but if he fails he could take the anti plague to gain the fort save instead.

Just confirming how the mechanics all work.

@DrifterDwarf, you can still Treat Disease if you’re sick. Yes, you would take the -1 penalty.

You can only Treat Disease for one person at a time unless you have the Ward Medic skill feat.

The bonus from Treat Disease is a circumstance bonus, which is a different type from the item bonus that antiplague grants, so both would stack.

Thanks for the information. Slowly figuring things out.

The medicine check is an interesting thing. I can see if someone has a really high medicine skill, they could roll and succeed on the check - then granting someone else a better chance at the Fort Save.

However - if your skills are about the same - or your Fort Save is better - seem like the Medicine check is a waste. If you roll and fail - well you still have the Fort Save to maybe pass. If you roll and pass - well dang you should have just rolled the Fort Save instead because you now have another chance to fail :)

With my luck, I'll likely just fail both :)

Medicine is an essential skill to have especially as it progresses you can attempt a DC20 check which heals you 2d8 +10 and so on ....if you take assurance medicine you can never fail after a certain level. Then there is battle medicine so you can heal during battle....it's an essential skill in absence of other healing

It looks like Dalton is no longer sick. AJ has progressed to stage 2 (sickened 1 and fatigued) and Novac has improved to stage 1 (just sickened 1).

Lol so I guess we need another's day of rest.

Maybe Dalton with his higher wisdom than me can help AJ

Dalton wisdom is only +1, and the dice routinely hate me, but he will definitely try.

Nice bird ! Can we keep him? lol 😆

Moving my rules confusions to this thread since it's more appropriate.

I was looking over my conditions just to be sure of everything and noticed that sickened says I can't willingly ingest anything, including elixirs or potions. Does that mean that while I have this disease I can't actually eat or drink at all? Should I also be rolling for some kind of deprivation due to my inability to eat or drink? And doesn't that also mean I can't ingest the lesser antiplague? There's also a rule for retching to make a save against the DC and lower the sickened value? Can I do that as much as I want or are we confined to only being able to make the save when we rest? Sorry for all of the questions, I feel a little silly for only noticing all of these rules now.

Technically that is correct but I’m not going to punish you too harshly at level 1, so I’ll say you can still eat and drink, including the antiplague.

Cheers!

Novac has fully recovered now but AJ is still at stage 2 of the disease. Fortunately, the disease only has 2 stages so she can't get any worse!

It's up to you if you want to keep resting or proceed on. You should reach the river today if you continue traveling.

Oh. And here I was typing a dramatic post because I thought the disease could eventually kill me. lmao. I'll edit.

@TheForsakenEvil with the critical success, you have fully recovered! :D

Huzzah! RNG decided to reward me finally after so many terrible dice rolls and burning 2 hero points, haha. Thought I'd be stuck with it until we managed to get to civilization!

@TheForsakenEvil congrats lol ;)

Who is good at crafting? I took the skill because there are very few skills I don't have lol. However it is intelligence based and I didn't put a point in that so my crafting is 1d20+3 .....is anyone better at that ?

Thanks. :^)

I have a +2 from Intelligence, but I'm not trained in crafting, unfortunately.

Novac is the only person trained in Crafting.

Lol ohhhhh welllll

Lol, I didn't even see Dalton's comment about alligators before choosing the crocodile as the random encounter. It must have been meant to be!

He's a beast summoner!!!

Yay level 2 ;) .... for leveling up just to confirm ...are we going free archetypes ?

Yikes - my first P2E level up - I'm not prepared :)

Lol ...the character sheet does most for you when you enter level 2
You have to manually change your HP ... for Monk it's 10+con i think
Your AC goes up by 1 and so does your attack bonus

Since your proficiency level goes up it's 2+ level for trained ...so 4 /if you are trained or 4+ level for expert so 6

But the character sheet does the proficiency bonuses automatically...just if you want to double check..... as a Rogue I can upgrade a skill and i can confirm the math works there lol

You also get a skill feat and a class feat

If we get free archetypes I can help you with that

I don't even know what an archetype is lol. Trying to decide on my skill feat and it's tough. I really like Group Impression, Impressive Performance, and Intimidating Glare.

Archetype..... think of D&D multiclassing but better. Especially free Archetypes you get to level up your class and the Archetype at the same time. Honestly it's very common for the GM to allow those ....

All of those skill feats are great ..... I chose them by how I see my characters..... Novac is a thief first and foremost...it's in his DNA so that's how I chose.

Anything that invokes fear is good by the way ...lol that has an effect on almost all abilities one of the worst condition to have ...I mean all conditions are bad ....but fear affects almost everything including AC

We can use the free archetype rules if you would like to do so.

I’d be up for it! For my skill feat I’m going to take Natural Medicine (use nature for medicine checks).

that's a great choice

I chose cat fall (i rememberd my dismal roles when we tried climbing the trees in the Elven town)

Class Feat Quick draw will help me with my throwing daggers

I think I'll pass on the free archetype. I already have enough options to choose from and I'm not seeing how to add them to Pathbuilder anyway.

If you choose not to take a free archetype, I'll allow you to choose a bonus class feat every two levels, if you can figure out how to do that in Pathbuilder!

Hmm, I've been looking through and I think I can only add Free Archetype or custom feat choices by paying for it.

The Archetype is only at the paid option. However it is only a one time payment..... if you don't want to spend the money I will refer you to. wanderersguide.app ...there everything is free but in the beginning you have to go through checkboxes of what you want to allow. I didn't mention it before as it is not as comfortable to use.

wanderersguide.app ..you have to make sure to enable all the books and adventure paths even the legacy ...
Under variant rules you have to enable "free Archetype" and under options you will have to enable "Alternate Ancestry boosts" once you did that it works and is 100% free.... it is a little more cumbersome than Pathbuilder but again 100% free

https://2e.aonprd.com/Archetypes.aspx the pathfinder archetypes ....enjoy

I chose Dual Weapon Dedication..... double slice and sneak attack work so we'll together 😆

https://youtu.be/Um0oD54uqug?si=35XLGnM3LwWlHEFO

he explains archetypes in 7 minutes lol unless you can ignore the parts where you replace class feats with archetype stuff in 6:20 he explains the free version .....but still check out the video as he makes good points

I went ahead and bought the Pathbuilder upgrade. Still gonna pass on the archetypes, but I figured out how to add the bonus class feats in their place so gonna do that. :)

yeah that one time payment is actually worth it

I'm taking Oracular Warning as my second class feat this level. Just so it doesn't mess up the game in the future, assume I'll use it every opportunity I can.

I’ll edit my initiative macro to account for that. Remember that using that feat increases your cursebound value!

nice what's your oracle curse? It says it triggers it ...what's the effect ?

Curse of Engulfing Flames

Fires flare noticeably (though not dangerously) in your presence, you occasionally smoke slightly, and your body is almost painfully hot to the touch. When you have the cursebound condition, you catch fire, taking persistent fire damage equal to your cursebound value. The flames shed light like a torch, and if you enter an environment where they could not burn (such as underwater), you simply seethe with flameless heat. The flames subside when you begin Refocusing to assuage your curse or if you fall unconscious, but they resume if your Refocus activity is interrupted or when you return to consciousness.

Better don't use it when you're low on HP ;)

Alright I think I'm all done leveling. I'll probably post tomorrow.

Yep, I got it! :)
I'm hoping we don't start any combats where I'm so low that 1 damage at the end of the round is enough for me to be scared, haha.

Most combats last on average between 3 and 5 rounds, so it usually shouldn’t be too much of a danger.

I am done leveling up as well

I'm just starting :)

Looking at taking feats Stunning Bows and Battle Medicine.

Archetype I'm trying to decide between Bastion and Medic.

medic is good to have

Question...i did write gold down but did the elves actually give e us money ? Just wondering

Just whatever "starting gold" you had left over from character creation.

Perfect thanks that's what I have in my inventory.....so wr might not have to rob a bank for food and rooms

sounds cool !!! I played that once in a nature based campaign ....came in very handy

Oh important note about Oracular Warning: it also gives temporary HP to everyone equal to half my level. Effectively, y'all can just take 1 less damage from the incoming fire.

Also have a question because I'm not sure. Oracular Warning says it applies to all of my allies. Am I considered my own ally? I couldn't find anything defining what an ally is.

"Some effects target or require an ally, or otherwise refer to an ally. This must be someone on your side, often another PC, but it might be a bystander you are trying to protect. You don't count as your own ally."

Ah there it is. Thanks!

Just to confirm i have to do 2 Reflex saving throws for the fire damage ...and then another one for AJs oracle thing ?

Two Reflex saves for the fire then one Fortitude save for the sonic damage. All are basic saves, so no damage on a critical success, half damage on a success, full damage on a failure, and double damage on a critical failure.

Thanks

Wow I just took 20 points to of damage ....not looking good crit failed the Fortitude

Sheeeesh, that's a lot of damage. Crit failing the Fortitude sucked for sure. I knew there'd be friendly fire, but didn't expect that. I thought casting the spell was fitting since it was her first activation of the cursebound condition and literally finding herself on fire.

Lol don't worry about it. One of my characters once died because because my buddy tried to heal me and crit failed rolled an 8 on the damage too. And he literally killed me because I was on dying 3 lol..........however Novac will have something to say about that lol.....if he survives.....being at less than half damage after round one .....not so sure about his survival chances

@Dmbrainiac fun coincidence o recently red the players guide for the AP Strength of the Thousands which takes place at the Magic school so it's nice to actually have a character there.

Heh, I’m borrowing some of the characters from that AP for this game here, but I’m not following the plot of the adventures. :D

Even better lol ....I might run Strengths of the Thousands for my in person group ...once we finish Seasons of the Ghost

Season of Ghosts is fantastic! Strength of Thousands has lots of good stuff, but large sections in the middle drag and there’s lots of unrelated plots without a whole lot of connection between books.

I love running Season of the ghost we're at the end of Book1

I’m running two tables of it on another site. The first table is at the start of book 4, the other one is about halfway through book 2.

That's great. I started reading book 2 ..
Lots of downtime activities in chaper 1

@cellarnovice thanks for the healing still waiting for Dalton though

Oh nice! I’m also running an in person game for Agents of Edgewatch. It’s got a different theme so it’s been fun to run.

No worries, we took some hits haha…

Edgewatch is really good... up until the end of book 5. Everything that happens in book 6 seems random and has little to do with anything that came before it. When I ran it, we wrapped up after the book 5 finale. :D

I see, we’re just getting to the end of book 1 so spirits still high. It’s also everyone’s first time playing Pf2e so it’s been fun figuring it all out

The group had the choice between Edgewatch and seasons of the ghost
. I am happy with their choice

I added the +7 that I got healed for......I can take it off if the timeliness doesn't fit.

Wow - lots of activity today!!! The 3 point heal also heals the fire bugs, right?

I believe so, yes.

Yeah got to talking about APs lol in addition to AJ trying to kill me :)

Lol looks like we are only seconds apart with our posts lol @TheForsakenEvil

It's okay, I edited a response in lol

Should we actually stay in town or go? Novac for sure would want to speed things up but it would also be nice to do some city based stuff.

I'm in favor of staying in and out of character. If we go to Avistan to meet this person, we'd just have to come back if we also wanted help from the head professor. And I would want to be more prepared if we're going to go trekking through the wilderness again.

A rift between AJ and Novac 😁 i like the drama and all of that in a pink office with a petite Elven lady watching 😁😆😀 i heard somewhere that pink makes some people aggressive......

Was bound to happen eventually!

True too different characters .... just making sure though this is all role-playing..... I like how you play AJ so this is a strictly in game thing so please tell me if it is too much

Nah, we're good. I've been in plenty of games with party conflicts. Thanks for checking in though!

As a player I’m good with either staying in town or heading out, Al’s character would most likely err on the side of caution though. I’m happy to see where the rp takes us

@Dmbrainiac i would go after AJ to apologize would you need me to roll a check to find her ? Or do I find ger after searching for a while.

Never mind I'll just assume i find her after looking for a bit

Yeah no roll needed

@Dmbrainiac Have you ever played or ran a game with the gradual ability boost alternate rule ? A friend suggested it and we are using it now. So far it worked fine ...he only slightly adjusted the difficulty. Just wanted to hear your opinion about it. I might use it in one of my games in the future.

Gonna respond today! Been a long weekend. 😴

Nice reply .....have to think what Novac is gonna say lol ...

Very nice posts guys.

My next post will be more lengthy so I probably won't have time to finish it until at least tomorrow.

Sounds good. Can't wait

Sounds good, thanks for letting us know! Jada busy weekend but looking forward to it

Very exciting! My posting might be a little wonky in terms of regularity for June and July, but I intend on keeping up with it. My schedule is very unstructured during this time, which is very challenging for me due to significant struggles with executive functioning.

Same, girl. Same. :D

Between executive functioning struggles, chronic lack of sleep, and undiagnosed ADHD and probably bipolar disorder, sometimes I wonder how I’m able to make any posts at all.

^_^

That's extremely impressive, especially with how many games you're in/run! I could never. ADHD, C-PTSD, and online college are the biggest hurdles for me. I'd probably be a lot more capable if not for my class work though. I've been getting better at dealing with everything since I started weekly therapy last fall though, so I'm hoping that the worries about potential wonky posting frequency turns out to be unjustified. :)

I am lucky enough to be mostly OK lol. O have to say o love the game and the way you handle and structure it. So whatever time you need ....I'll be waiting......

It took a bit longer to find enough time to assemble the post, but it's up now. Credit to ChatGPT for help writing the dreams.

I have to get my charisma score up lol 😆...great dreams really gripping all of them

What an amazing dream. Fantastically done! <3

Nice ....only missing Dalton now

Thanks you! I'll admit that your dream in particular had me in my feelings. It's a wonder how far along AI has come in its emotional intelligence over the past couple of years.

I'll post a little later today or tomorrow, but feel free to continue retroactively reacting to the dreams if you'd like. :)

Question before I posted. How much do we "know" about the gods that visited us? Just wondering because if it is oy the name Novac would try to do some research on the one who visited him

You know just what was in the dream, but information about them is easy to come by.